Military Shows Us Their Experimental Hybrid Vehicles! 🚘

The Army has been showing off three new experimental vehicles which they hope will revolutionise military transport in the future.
The three have all been converted to hybrid power, and as Simon Newton’s been finding out, they can do a lot more than just carry troops across the battlefield.
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[@fatedescent2329]

3:19 "...boil 800 kettles..." answering the real tactical questions

[@canzukcommonwealth7309]

Least the boys can get a decent brew 😂

[@zambiakid]

An army marches on its stomach...

[@canzukcommonwealth7309]

@@zambiakid and us brits need our tea ☕️

[@oddball_the_blue]

British secret weapon that is...

[@1chish]

If it can boil a kettle on the go then its a good piece of kit. Ask the Tankies ...

[@stiffchocolate7546]

I did they said shut up meg

[@1chish]

@@stiffchocolate7546 Lesson learned: Never do what random people on YT tell you to do ... 😂

[@richtea615]

So long as soldiers' lives aren't put at additional risk for the sake of 'environmentalism', and there's no reduction in capability, then this is fine.

[@5252085]

Speaking as someone who was in the army for over 5 years. Having military vehicles as battery electric provides a significant tactical advantage. You can hear armoured vehicles from km's away. Having a silent/ near silent vehicle is a HUGE deal. Additionally, the fact that you could charge your fleet with Solar, rather than having to have a massive logistical supply chain means better/ longer forward operating ability.

[@darrenjones3681]

@@5252085 yes I totally get the tactical sound advantage , but their are real world safety issues for maintenance, also unless it’s a solid state battery (still right now unlikely) the risk of a battery being damaged by a round particularly in wet environments is a real explosion risk , plus what happens if you get too used to being quiet on electric drive and the engine kicks in at an inappropriate moment and then your position and stealth advantage just becomes a liability

[@Lukeclout]

An increase actually. Hybrid engines can decrease logistics burdens on both fuel and electricity. For advanced recon/SF needs , electric motors can be very quiet increasingly ones ability to remain covert and thereby increases survivability Looks at the French Arqubus

[@cxsey8587]

Glad you signed off on it richtea615, I’m sure the British military is very happy to have gotten your endorsement

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Transitioning to electric/hybrid, as well as green power generation, is a good move strategically. You won’t need or dependent on more fossil fuels from dodgy states.

[@paralogregt]

As it that would make any difference in a conflict. What a waste of the military budget.

[@TheWareek]

but how do you recharge the batteries in the front line other than with a diesel generator

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

@@paralogregt Says the same person when the first coal-powered steam warship rolled off the docks, in contrast to sail warships.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

@@TheWareek You do realise there is an alternative hydrocarbon right? You do also realise that tanks of today still need logistics vehicles for refuel right? Assuming they would develop battery cell trucks, then that would be an option. Heard of batteries? Also, there is still much development to be done to further these tech. What is not possible today can probably be done tomorrow. Like 1930’s jets development.

[@TheWareek]

@@napoleonibonaparte7198 I was not against the idea at all. just that at the moment this technology just moves the hydrocarbon usage further to rear. Also I just said diesel because I didnt want to have to list every type.

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

Hybrid is better then pure electric, lets you be almost as sneaky as paint your wartrack purple

[@patricofritz4094]

Nah better electric , maybe by 2030

[@patricofritz4094]

@Jabster Yeah I agree by 2035 phase out ICE vehicles

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

@Jabster that goes without saying, but we are far from that point with our current battery situation sadly... Atomic power sadly has also been stunted, with too many people believing it is safer to use fossil fuels in fear of big nuclear bomb style explosions, preventing us from properly replacing old style reactors which are safe still but obsolete compared to newer designs. Some countries like Germany are planning outright banning nuclear to temporary build dozens of fossil fuel plants for 'safety' reasons... kurzgesagt in a nutshell have explained it all better then me.

[@Cooliemasteroz]

For a long time now I was hoping that someone would design and build and electric off road trailer for 4wd over landing as many 4WD owners modify their suspension so that they can carry more weight and some still overload their axles. Instead of being a burden that a normal trailer is a 4 wheeled electrically driven trailer would help in difficult off road conditions wether it be mud, snow or rock climbing. It could be made so that it can be spun around via skid steering while disconnected from the tow vehicle if needed. As with other hybrid vehicles it would have an increased range with batteries carried and not be as inefficient on road as just towing a normal trailer as it could assist without actually pushing the tow vehicle by taking the load off it in acceleration and on hill climbs via a load sensing telescopic trailer connection. Also as per usual regenerative breaking could be a worthwhile option to extend range and save wear on the brakes. Maybe this concept is worth looking at for the army as well as it could be used with existing vehicles with very little modifications.

[@buttonworld77]

Don't ask them to reverse the Ajax up a 30 deg slope, can't even get over obstacles 20cm high. Apparently. I'm sure GD have got it in hand...

[@lornbuchanan9254]

Hopefully these won’t make soldiers sick, unlike the AJAX

[@ianlaccohee7180]

I'll bet it won't be “squaddie proof.”

[@gusgone4527]

Trust me, nothing is!

[@garyhicks789]

"Enemy drops Pot Noodles over British Troops rendering them inoperable"..!

[@AbsolutelyAverage]

Should call this the “Hide”. Silent reconnaissance vehicle to the Jackal

[@jim-bob-outdoors]

The "Green" army in electric vehicles. Bet they are still firing depleted uranium shells though. 😂

[@jimbobbob9063]

I heard they have recycling bins on the battle field so they tidy up after all the killing. They also recycle their plastic bottles.

[@ethanryan5299]

The question is what effect does an EMP have on these hybrids?

[@lachlanchester8142]

Well that’s why they’re hybrids not purely electric

[@cryhavoc999]

Same effect on an ICE as it also has electrics!

[@tesstickle7267]

@@lachlanchester8142 the engine powers the electrics, can't power electrics that's been cooked lol

[@terryteed1903]

Doesn't matter. EMP will kill the circuts in any engine. Electric or fossil fuel.

[@stetee4238]

@Scaucy man 2.0 engine is no longer connected to the wheels its now just connected to the generator which powers and charges the batteries which runs the motors on the wheels. but yeah very few vehicles are emp safe these days but with all these additions it will be a lot harder to get it back into action if it suffers one

[@ScoutPL]

You can hear the tires of a Humvee long before you hear it's diesel engine.

[@ЦзинКэ-ы5х]

I'm kinda impressed by the fact, that the hybrid is somewhat rare in the military, despite the diesel-electric transmission being a de-facto standard among heavy equipment, trains, and ships.

[@davchan4423]

For me, one of the nice things about this is the reduced use of moving and/or mechanical parts (i.e. the gearbox, ICE, etc.) That surely decreases the cost of maintenance and required supply of parts, aside from being less reliant on fossil fuels.

[@marcelmaria804]

it still has an engine, instead of driving a gearbox it is driving a generator which then supplies power to electric motors. the ice engine will still be in use when the next ice age arrives. in industry it is the mainstay unlike passenger vehicles.

[@thekneebreaker4790]

They will likely be sealed units, making maintenance impossible, if it fails it may need recovery

[@PB-hr3hy]

Cant wait for the arm chair experts to say how this is a bad idea....

[@stevie1der4085]

It's a bad idea.

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

I read in Janes must be 10 yr plus ago, Oshkosh made a hybrid back then. I can't remember figures except it could run at 80miles per hour on electric for several hours and could recharge from 1. The engine 2. The wheels turning. As well coming to a stop on diesel it somehow used 60% of that power to start moving again. The other thing was the cab looked very reminiscent of those old com-block trucks that had icbm on them like in the movie Stripes. Weird small looking cab and looked like 2 foot high above the wheels. Presumably to house batteries. I think they were used in occupation of iraq(?) maybe. Long time ago I read that

[@matthewproudman6535]

Something that strikes me is, Can the battery be easily replaced when better power storage tech comes out?

[@matthewproudman6535]

@TheGoat you say that but it's the army.

[@davidbarrett1487]

Looks very good.🇬🇧👍👍👍

[@andrewhall2678]

What they need is a vehicle that will run on practically anything like US Army Trucks

[@biker6991]

Wow Germany had Diesel electric in WW2 with their large tanks...

[@tdolan500]

To say that was extremely unsuccessful would be an understatement.

[@andrewhall2678]

Hybrid vehicles would be ideal for Special Forces

[@Ididntwantahandle]

Going electric but still keeping the engine is a great strategic advantage. Add options and makes all vehicles power generators.

[@sssxxxttt]

Just speculating, but having an abundance of electricity would help if one considers laser weapons

[@stevenjohns7017]

Is the Jackal glass small arms resistant? Can it run on any type of fuel? IED restistant as required in all recent theatres? Easy to fix whilst in the desert? Hope they work better than the useless radio's we were issued.

[@philellis9465]

What the APC should have had in Aliens

[@hughoxford8735]

Makes a lot of sense to reduce thermal signature.

[@anthonyhassett]

Yeah but it decrease the range, increases the weight and watch performance drop in the cold weather.

[@fastfreddy19641]

What a great thing. I think the enemy is going to get a big shock when one of these seeks up. 😲

[@alex29443]

Hmmm, interesting, not convinced until I considered the stealth and surprise aspect, but sure, give it a go.

[@glennalexon1530]

Nothing says "professional soldier" like a giant colorful Ascot plume on the beret. Fashion-forward military.

[@श्रीमानlMज्यू]

This is my favorite car. After jltv

[@phalanx3803]

thats not a pivot turn thats a neutral turn pivot is when you stop one side and turn the other also know as a skid turn / steer. neutral is where you have one side go one way and the other side go the other way. its a very bad idea for long wheel base vehicles it one thing to do it on wet concrete but do it off road and your bound to pull a tire of its rim.

[@thegrinch8161]

As an auld boot neck I and I suspect that the average forces man or woman won’t give a shiny Keich what powers your vehicle so long as it gets where you’re needed most rickety tick. I wish the technicians involved in this venture every success

[@WELSHMIKEY]

I've always wondered if NATO did end up in a war with Russia, what would happen if the middle East cut of their supply of oil. Could we still power our militaries from our own oil production alone? And if yes wouldn't Russia target North sea platforms and other oil rigs. I dont know all the facts and don't assume there will be a war, but less dependence on fuel from abroad is a good thing imo.

[@paulcoverdale8312]

It’s the way to go for stealth. Awesome bits of kit to start with. Just made it better but,? Not full electric. What happens out in the middle of nowhere an no power or low power! Not good.

[@daveingram8036]

I wonder what the infra-red emissions are like.....

[@barrysheridan9186]

These vehicles have almost no real application. Total waste of time and money, they will find that out once the shooting starts.

[@tdolan500]

I could see a practical case for having some vehicles like this for certain special operations and training but in the theatre they would be an issue to put it mildly. Chemical fires, risk of electric shock after damage, weight, bulk, complexity, extreme weather capabilities and most of all charging capacity are all issues that won’t be solved.

[@Peter-lm3ic]

And in the winter?

[@catlee8064]

Are you serious ? What happens when a round hits the battery pack ? You know, the lithium/ion are highly explosive batteries? How about the cabling getting hit and making the chassis live? What about squaddie proofing? Ive known troopers who could break a block of steel...let them loose on this and bye bye vehicle....

[@marc0523]

Other battery techs exist which are not as dangerous as li-ion. Power cables are already in a vehicle, along with hydraulics and fuel lines, these can all be shot as well. A battery shorting the chassis would cause an RCD trip, which would remove that cable from use, any decent system would have redundancy, so you might lose 1 of your 4 drive sources. You still have a much more reliable vehicle.

[@lachlanchester8142]

So fuel tasks aren’t explosive? The pedals still do the same thing I’m sure it’s easy to use

[@marc0523]

@@lachlanchester8142 Actually diesel is not that explosive, petrol is, but military vehicles haven't used petrol since WWII, for just that reason. Diesel is similar to cooking oil.

[@marc0523]

If you look at the medium truck (can't remember the name) you'll notice the fuel tanks were underneath in the IED "wedge", if it was explosive, you wouldn't want it there.

[@fastfreddy19641]

I thought they where armoured vehicles.

[@bartley7953]

Making war more climate friendly can only be a good thing .

[@matthewhammond859]

lol no

[@ianlaccohee7180]

Lol.

[@Vladpryde]

This has nothing to do with the climate, since producing these batteries and the electricity needed to charge them is enormously more polluting than traditional gas-powered vehicles.

[@georgepantazis141]

Depleted Uranium shells,🇭🇲not all Environmentally Friendly.but you will use less petrol.

[@eddie4324]

@@Vladpryde Gas powered engines are no way near as efficient as electric engines. Plus the next generation of batteries will be cheaper and be more energy dense than the current lithium batteries.

[@maxplanck9055]

Excellent,no combustion means they will not overheat in the dessert,they will not be easy to detect by sound,less vulnerable to heat seeking missiles, the vehicles are much lighter in weight than standard, much cheaper to operate and can power other appliances too,a water pump or field hospital for many hours with a socket, run flat tyres are the other improvement that is worthwhile.

[@conrid9390]

Batteries can overheat

[@maxplanck9055]

Use water cooling or electric fan, electricity only generates heat if it's poorly stored

[@conrid9390]

@@maxplanck9055 oh yea, I'm not against it, just no free lunch in engineering

[@petersmith4455]

thanks but will stick with the Bedford rl. anway i dont think M,A.N. trucks wil be too happy about this

[@tesstickle7267]

So the engine can only power the motors? It can't physically drive without the electrics?

[@SF7PAKISTAN]

Think of it this way, if the gearbox was shot, you wouldn't be able to drive the vehicle then too. Besides generators are more resilient than gearboxes as they have lesser moving parts

[@George-dx2sd]

So what happens in the middle of the Iraqi desert when you're out of diesel and the batteries are flat ?

[@fredrickbekoe6503]

Good job keep it up one love

[@maemae7063]

This British military vehicle design without rooftop. Have they not thought about weather for soldiers

[@tomgosy]

I hope it's not like a tesla, where you have to take it back to the dealership if it breaks down

[@stiffchocolate7546]

7 million pound Toyota spend that developing a headlight

[@fazsum41]

Asking for trouble making vehicles electric and hybrid when they are supposed to be on the frontlines of combat in the middle of nowhere and somewhat protect the occupants from incoming fire and IED’s.

[@aaronb2779]

What how does being electric effect that in anyway?

[@glennalexon1530]

One is called the Jackal, another the Foxhound, and the third is called the SUPPLY TRUCK? That's unfair. That Mann truck should be called the Eagle Claw, or at least Angry Chickadee or something.

[@robert6106]

A vehicle for an Army that forgot what rain is, never mind Artillery rain.

[@daviddenley3512]

It's about time too!!! I've been scratching my head as to why the Military haven't been using EV's ever since Tesla showed how efficient there EV's were and the Military have to be an obvious user of Electricity. Just look at how much fuel they use? Look at how may battles have been lost because there was no fuel for the vehicles and with a lite bit of consideration they will not need all the Tankers to support them but just a few well placed ones instead.

[@bl8danjil]

It was, probably still is, because of the recharge speed of the batteries, the batteries being susceptible to extreme temperatures altering the power available, and because maintenance and repair of the electrical systems requires special gloves and other protective gear as well as special procedures before messing with them.

[@avenger1312]

the issue is that with single shot your fuel may leak but with batteries there is a fair chance they will start to burn

[@gerryhildur1345]

how would one generate electricity for the vehicles?

[@Syn741]

Thinking in the context of war, EV is a total mess. You have to wait for the vehicle to charge which God knows takes how long depending on the capacity. While when using diesel or petrol, you fuel it up and it's ready to go. You run out of fuel on the battlefield, you fuel it up and you're ready to go in minutes. When you run out of electricity, you would need to charge it up which takes time. something no one has in a war.

[@avenger1312]

@@Syn741 I am stunned that nobody ia talking about the instability of batteries

[@Emtbtoday]

Experimental? They've been in service now since 2007

[@RusherZero]

18 days for an average home, or 800 kettles. Simple math proves that the average UK household drinks 44,4 kettles worth of tea a day!

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

I think they are awesome. The options that it gives to the crews are amazing. I remember trying to do some Battle Damage Repair with a windy drill conected to a 4 tonners air bottles. 30 and all the air was used up.

[@andrewstewart99]

Prob expensive but better for environment

[@stephenfowlie742]

Electric motors that actually work in military vehicles... Ferdinand Porsche is turning in his grave.

[@johnsmith-yj2cn]

vehicle that are hard to diagnostic , contain sensitive electronic and hard repair in the field how can that go wrong. also if there is a emp electric/hybrid car are dead diesel don't need electric at all to run other than a battery and starter to start the engine also wen vehicle get hit by emp the battery , starter and light still work it only sensitive electronic that get destroyed . emp is mostly a problem for car that use spark plug , electronic injection and computer stuff military diesel engine don't have . it also possible to star diesel engine whit compress air many diesel vehicle use that so there no electronic at all on the engine and it make them more reliable than battery starter in extrem cold weather

[@georgepantazis141]

I used to drive these at Luna Park Sydney,they were called Bumper cars.🇭🇲

[@davidking6172]

Smart all you need is an automatic license that should be easier for the Army driving trainers lol

[@petewood2350]

Sarge sarge, the enemy is shooting at us and we need to find a recharge station on this battle field, ooh there is one over there, but there is an enemy tank at the start of the que.

[@paulmorris3613]

I assume there is protection at the front for driver and passenger, One good sniper and no amount of electric clean power with make it go!

[@danielross7983]

No there isn't

[@jazzb97]

That's how the Jackal is designed

[@WAFFENAMT1]

Has anyone told Tesla about this?

[@jon1801]

God help us all.

[@scratchy996]

"MAN support vehicle" - Feminists triggered !

[@deeeeeeeench1209]

So are you going to get training military engineers in ev or is it going to be monopolised like Tesla.

[@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq]

Almost definitely the former.

[@chipmunkXP100]

What another waste of money on this hybrids get into a fire fight and one of these would be a death trap one bit of shrapnel cutting the lines for these electric motors or even the battery cells Game over the vehicle will be useless I see this in the forklift Industry when the vehicles are mistreated the systems are not meant for these type of vehicles how can people be so thick love to see then in a Real live fire fight in one of these

[@engineer12v]

Yeah they are crazing around like a golf cart probably at 25mph great stationary target for the enemy to shoot at

[@donaldmckechnie6826]

Boys and their toys.

[@regregan5755]

Wait what? So if it still has both does that mean the weight has gone up? Bit of a consideration for "light" armoured vehicles and what space has now been taken up?

[@zambiakid]

They've removed the engine, gear box and fuel tank. Can't imagine it would be that much more

[@regregan5755]

@@zambiakid so then it doesn't have both or is it an electric diesel engine now??

[@zambiakid]

@@regregan5755 Removed the diesel engine, gearbox and other incidentals and replaced it with a generator, electric motors and other incidentals. Removing some weight, adding other weight. All up it is unlikely to be much different. That generator looks tiny compared to the original donk they come with. It's smaller than the gear box. Osh Kosh's Hybrid HEMTT A3 is about 400kg lighter than the standard HEMTT

[@mihaildudarov3425]

I'm curious what the soldiers think about this vehicle in English rainy weather. Supposed to be armored buggy for the desert. The design is reminiscent of the British vehicles of the 30s. Absulut ugly.

[@D0P1C3]

@Oke Ihenacho 2:40 you can have them open top or closed, base is the same just what "flavour" you put on top is different if i get it right from the vid

[@napoleonwon9196]

The British Army wants to be "carbon neutral"? I can not stop laughing. They were soundly beaten (along with the Yanks) by the Taliban in Afghanistan and now the focus is to be on going green. How about they relearn how to win in the battlefield? Next, we will hear that the British Army aims to be "zero injuries"! LOL!

[@ArkadiaEternal]

Strategic benefit for less reliance on fossil fuels. Reality is that each thing will be heavier, and more expensive while just shifting dependency on a power grid that’s dependent on fossil fuels as well. Until our power grid is not dependent on fossil fuels the primary benefit of this strategically is none existent.

[@glennalexon1530]

What luck that the ground was wet during the "spin in place" demo". I guess they'll train the troops to look for slippery patches on the battlefield.

[@jimbobbob9063]

Great to see the war machine is being environmentally friendly

[@Huligan722]

It’s going to be fun see how they charge these in remote FOBs, with an gas generator perhaps?

[@patricofritz4094]

Electric vehicles would be better zero emissions and better performance like Tesla don't need oil and gas and is cheaper in the long run , should get semi-autonomous systems too . Probably by 2030 👍💪

[@عمرعبداللهجندالله]

So what’s gonna happen during an EMP strike?

[@helloitsme1785]

@@عمرعبداللهجندالله emps don't exist it's not cod the only way you can weponize a emp right now is by a nuke. Also you can protect against emps aircraft have done that for years as they get hit by lightning and can't have the emp off that destroying the plane.

[@patricofritz4094]

@@عمرعبداللهجندالله Whenever emps come whether from understand nuclear or other there will be countermeasures like electric shielding otherwise no one would think of using Electric vehicles to replace ICE vehicles especially the military

[@patricofritz4094]

@@helloitsme1785 I believe various nations are working on EMPs but they are his in R&D phases and may not have any 👍 results until the middle of the 2030s

[@patricofritz4094]

Edit full electric military vehicles are impossible for the foreseeable future like until 2035

[@johnnyrambo1966]

Would love to see this wading through water with a squadie driving it!

[@ReallyFarFarAway]

- Electric drive is really good for SOUND !!! ... but ... electric drive in the Armed Forces to save the planet : ridiculous !!!

[@lachlanchester8142]

Isn’t that the point of the army, to save the planet

[@ReallyFarFarAway]

@@lachlanchester8142 : Short term A long term trial = Military Dictatorship

[@phucknuts.7065]

One sniper round to the battery pack using armour piercing incendiary rounds will have the lithium batteries exploding like a Russian tank cooking off after an anti tank weapon strike.

[@zionthanghk3]

I would not drive the this things, no protection at all

[@adamgriffin8197]

It’s a reconnaissance vehicle it’s not supposed to be heavily armoured. I assume your talking about the jackal.

[@gilbert7794]

Will be useless in cold climates anything under -10 seriously effects electric vehicles .

[@clacicle]

No vehicle is perfect and that’s why they are always working on experimental ones.

[@anthonyhassett]

@Rich Harvey, You know what you are talking about but they will still be dodgy in damp maritime Climate around 2 degrees in the winter

[@gilbert7794]

@@clacicle an electric car is a death trap

[@johnkrivokapic7527]

🇦🇺🇬🇧❤️

[@jamessharpleymyru3886]

Beep Beep, hybrid 'Soldiers' floating by in Rainbow Truck Beep Beep

[@socaljet]

power density of batterys is nowhere near enough yet

[@bm8641]

guys, drop it. british military vehicles with the notable exception of Defender were a joke and God knows how many British lifes were lost because of this perenial experimentation. Drop it, get serious, take a look at what the US, the Germans and others are doing. This permanent quirkiness leads to lost wars and loss of life. Someone here mentioned the open vehicle track vehicules used in WWII, the but of jokes in German and Allied folklore

[@livincreature1777]

Yeah if your battery goes dead you can always call the United States but back up.

[@marc0523]

It's a hybrid, if the battery dies it can use the engine.

[@tomstravels520]

It’s a hybrid. Do you know what that means?

[@RJM1011]

and they will stab you in the back ! LOL

[@ghalder1674]

Narendra modi look at them n buy for India rather than building ur ram temple

[@markwatters6875]

Should be troop tested not civvy tested. Let those who will rely on it determine it’s worth.

[@cryhavoc999]

This is the Boffin/Shed stage. Did they not say that they are going to be tested by the Army?

[@markwatters6875]

@@cryhavoc999 yes, but they should be tested by the troops FIRST for practical reasons. Too long to type here.

[@FrielyRFC]

Just scrap the jackal 😂😂

[@TANKs-bs3ip]

Why?