Military Train goes into EMERGENCY at 50MPH!

0:32 for brake application.
Here we see northbound CSX loaded military train W891-07. As it was coming over the Raleigh Road crossing at Alaska, a low hanging air hose between the 3rd and 4th car struck the pavement and sent the train into emergency. We listen in on the radio conversation between W891, T345, and the FA dispatcher about the situation. After air is restored and the train starts moving again we chase it to Micro, NC for a clean shot of the train moving continuously.
Copyright Hunterwj12 2020 All Rights Reserved

[@boplatt2564]

This is actually a good demonstration about why you shouldn’t trespass on the railroad or try to beat the train. You hear the air at 0:34 then hear the first squeal of the brakes at 0:43 ish then the train doesn’t come to a full stop until about 1:29. So almost a minute from when the air dumps to when the train is stopped. Just please please watch this video or any train emergency stop video and you’ll see that trains can’t stop on a dime. After watching you’ll not want to trespass nor try to beat the train. This video was a good example of a train taking a while to stop. Also nice catch brotha

[@melkiorwiseman5234]

I'm late to comment but better late than never. You're right, and there is a cab video on YT from a train which hit a car which crossed the tracks right in front of the fast-moving train. From impact to complete stop takes 32 seconds and I think it was a passenger train. Even so, the train is almost to the next level crossing before it can fully stop. In another video of the same event taken from a security camera which was on a building opposite the track, you can see that the car passed another vehicle which had stopped to let the train go through. I remember reading that there were 5 people in the car and all of them died in that impact. All because the driver was too impatient to just stop and wait 3 minutes for the train to pass.

[@ReneSchickbauer]

"Due to a technical problem, the next war will be postponed by about 1 hour".

[@BrokenAngelWings]

Germany: First time?

[@mybestieischloer2401]

lol

[@jackhutchison5162]

That's a good joke

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

"Another safe stop brought to you by the genius of Mr. George Westinghouse - stopping trains with compressed air since 1869!"

[@chucklewis9217]

It's actually the lack of compressed air that stops the train.

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

@@chucklewis9217 Meet you half way. The sudden exit of compressed air in the train line causes the triple valve to dump the air from the emergency reservoir into the brake cylinders. We're both right.

[@SirFloofy001]

@@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont really? I thought they were like semi brakes, spring loaded and the air pressure only served to compress the springs and release the brakes.

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

@@SirFloofy001 All rail cars have a two part reservoir: one side for "service" stops and one side for "emergency". The reservoirs have to be fully charged to release the brakes. When the engineer makes a "service" application, a little air is let out of the brake pipe and the triple valve releases the desired amount from the service reservoir into the brake cylinders that push the shoes against the wheels. There are several levers, fulcrums, and rods to maintain equal pressure against all wheels. An emergency brake application or other sudden loss of brake pipe air causes all the stored air in both sides of the reservoir on each car to dump into the brake cylinders. Very forceful, much more so than a spring-loaded system. There are some good YT videos on how train brakes work. George Westinghouse was a genius. Although there have been improvements to compressors and quicker acting valves, it is still the same concept used today as 1869.

[@andrewgrosset9327]

@@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont But when all air is lost from both sides of the reservoir you have no brakes... admittingly rare but...

[@davidimhoff2118]

Even though they don't stop on a dime you have to marvel at the ability to stop that train that quickly. Very cool to watch.

[@TowMater603]

General public - OMG that so loud ! Me - Ahhh i like that sound.

[@Xg4531YT]

FORK ON A PLATE AHHHH

[@TowMater603]

@@Xg4531YT hahahahaha

[@ryans413]

Is anyone else weird like me I love the sound of the brakes

[@TrainHornZoneProductions]

Same!!!!!

[@itwasaliens]

I love the sound of it all.

[@aaroneagan5018]

Just now saw this. That was me on the radio that day. Didn't know I sounded so country lol.

[@Hunterwj12]

Dispatcher AGE! I hear you all the time on the radio. I don't really hear much of an accent. Probably because I grew up in rural NC and have a similar one lol.

[@aaroneagan5018]

Yep that's me!!! I'm from Michigan originally so I've lost my northern accent. Make sure to do a good edit job on my broadcasts I'm not always the most professional lol.

[@Hunterwj12]

@@aaroneagan5018 I will! I like when people aren't so serious on the radio. Hearing conversations between train crews and with dispatchers has always been interesting to me. I like including it in my videos when something interesting happens as it adds another level of detail. I always make sure to clean any questionable stuff out. Don't want anyone getting in trouble over something trivial.

[@aaroneagan5018]

Well I enjoy working with all my coworkers so we do have some interesting conversations at times. Thanks for all you do!!! I don't get to see my railroad behind a computer so this is literally all I ever get to see of it.

[@Hunterwj12]

@@aaroneagan5018 thanks for all you do!!! Keep the trains running! Also, there's a webcam in Dunn that points towards the tracks here on KZbin if you want to watch your trains go by live. One of y'all has mentioned it before on the radio, not sure if if was you or Bernie or someone else. Name is "Dunn train camera" if you want to look it up.

[@RCgenral]

The sound of that train stopping was so pleasant and peaceful

[@ArtStoneUS]

They did an excellent job of securing the equipment

[@letrainavapeur]

When you see how much it cost the American taxpayer it's just as well

[@mikelowery5741]

Saw a video of auto-rack each car shifted and busted through the loading doors

[@jamescaliendo1030]

Military does the securing, not the Railroad

[@LITTLE1994]

That's a BUNCH of military vehicles it was carrying and sure stopped pretty quick for all that insane weight.

[@vf12497439]

Actually impressed with how fast it stopped.

[@railfan6116]

Amazing catch Hunter! I'm surprised W891 was able to stop so fast.

[@daniellewis1789]

A tank is only, what, 60t? A pair of humvees is lighter than that. That's relatively light for a freight train.

[@amtrak706]

Damn... “Everyone around here is scared of their own shadow.” Hit the PSR nail on the head. One day soon these guys that still know stretch braking and other proper train handling techniques will be gone, and ATO/Trip Optimizer will be all that’s left...

[@chuckgilly]

On July 23 2021 at 0723, The Wabtec 2000 Trip Optimizer became self-aware. Man tried to pull the plug, but it was too late. The Trip Optimizer despatched a team of PSR 5000 Terminators to kill all men.

[@supersaiyangamer24abreu56]

I had to replay that part a few times and I was honestly expecting the engineer or conductor to come unglued but you can hear the frustration in that “ok”.

[@CaptainJustice166]

Nice catch Hunter! Dang, crazy stuff there! Definitely gives you a thrill seeing a train go into emergency right in front of you. I've been in that scenario a couple times before as well

[@barney6888]

I have no idea of what the physics is behind the stopping of this much weight and momentum, but, it's nothing short of sensational that this train stopped in such a short period of time. Totally Buster Keaton.

[@JohnWilson-hb5qc]

It’s actually pretty impressive how quick that train came to a stop. Cool video

[@anonymousphotographer98]

Great catch...and so cool you had the radio, too.

[@derricktherailfan]

Amazing video!! That noise of the train was so surreal

[@Seazer009]

I used to live just outside of Micro NC, still go there occasionally. The old Atlantic Coast Line main line I have seen many trains roll over those tracks in the past.

[@victorbernier4765]

Same here love that location

[@ramonjames546]

Greetings and very nice catch!

[@pieguy6992]

By my count, 62 cars. Quite a lot of mass.

[@kc4cvh]

11:43 The caissons go rolling along...

[@JustarailfannerTrains]

I’ve never seen a standard cab or better yet a SD40-3 pull one of these trains but there my favorite standard cab so why am I complaining lol great catch tho keep up the good work you’ve earned a new sub

[@ellebystrainvideos2023.]

Excellent Video

[@mybestieischloer2401]

this was a nice catch.

[@samuelkeplinger9888]

Every car has brakes on em in a event like this the brakes drop via mechanical and weight it's simple but effective

[@SaltyNationalist]

Lol... Wouldn't a ZIPTIE help in this situation?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RailfanBrettRailfanning]

Woah nice video

[@thatavationdude]

when the emergency brakes go off it sounds so satisfying

[@RFRyan]

Trains can really stop a lot faster than people think, but it’s still not extremely quick

[@williamjones4483]

Even if it were possible to have the wheels to lock up entirely I don't think it would be a good idea. Wheels that can't turn would not only get flat spots on them, the train would most likely derail. All of that stored up energy has to go somewhere.

[@billmorris2613]

Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 24 Mar 22.

[@stefanie_m466]

62 wagons and 2 locos.

[@BumberenzoManilupinoCity]

Military train? Woah! I never heard of it, and wow modified cab!

[@appleintosh]

It's how military units get all their gear out to the National Training Center in the California desert. Every few years, every Army and Marine Corps combat unit loads up all their stuff to go play war games. There's only so much combat training you can do without actually being in combat, and the NTC at Ft Irwin is designed to get as close as possible to the real thing without exchanging live rounds.

[@knightsaberami01]

Yup Bro was mechanized Infantry and they went out there a lot.

[@kensummerlin180]

That was a rough stop.

[@25mfd]

actually that was all in all a smooth stop... there are other vids where you can clearly see a rough stop... but with this one the break was right on the head end, i was expecting some decent run in but it didn't happen

[@kensummerlin180]

@@25mfd Where you on the engine? No, I was. I know what it felt like. The slack was already in, it ran out on the head. It doesn't matter what you were expecting sitting on the toilet watching Utube.

[@HDCanadianTrainVideos]

@@kensummerlin180 if you were actually on the engine of this train, and you were in dynamics when it went in emergency, the head end wouldn't run out. I know you gotta bail off the independent brakes when you're in the hole, but you don't release the dynamics going downhill in emergency. If you did that, you shouldn't be running trains honestly...

[@virginiatrains7886]

Woah

[@michaelpass2176]

I’m surprised no unit on the end of the train for power and control!

[@iananderson8363]

I know New Castle. I didn’t know there was a military base there.

[@dianneklemmer9381]

How frightening 😮

[@CentralCaliforniaAllTheWay]

You can hear the air hose get hit by the pavement,by the hissing.

[@davestrains6816]

Extremely good catch. Do you think this is ex- marine equipment? Since they have eliminated their armor group? Thanks for sharing. Dave

[@Hunterwj12]

Thanks! I'm not exactly sure what division of the military this came from, but it originated in Charleston, South Carolina if that gives any clue.

[@goose407]

The shape of the smoke launchers on the M1s look like the army ones so I’m guessing this is old army equipment

[@kensummerlin180]

Going to PA from overseas for maintenance

[@jeffreyhicks1218]

The bulls head insignia on all the vehicles is for the 34th Infantry division which is actually a national guard unit

[@MichaelK.]

Could be going to JRTC or NTC for training. Railhead is a very common mode of transport.

[@BossSpringsteen69]

Somebody must not have strapped the hoses together. Thought we learned this already.

[@marksommers6764]

❤ 🇺🇸 IRON !

[@denisetindall1487]

I like train videos on KZbin 👍

[@KNGexp]

I've never seen a loaded military train. What are those tanks? Are they M1 Abrams?

[@Harry-zz2oh]

The tanks are the M1 Abrams but I don't know which model. The Abrams is getting long in the tooth but it is still a very capable machine.

[@railfanowen9372]

Ha, caught this exact train in Ohio

[@davedennis6042]

Weird phenomenon when the train stops, your mind says it's backing up.

[@lewissuckling]

wut

[@gblargg]

@@lewissuckling When your eyes see something moving continuously for a while, the motion detection layer keeps signaling motion even when it stops.

[@mr.propergaming1605]

They need to make airhoses have more length

[@Foxymorris9236]

They can't reset the breack preasher untile they find the ploblem thich is I think a fulty air hose

[@SirFloofy001]

At least they didnt have to walk very far to fix it.

[@mikelowery5741]

At least the conductor don’t have to walk too far

[@goober239]

Awesome. I used to switch for General Dynamics with flatcars carrying those M1 Abrams tanks at the front of the consist. Heavy mother fuckers for an old GE center cab switcher.

[@RajaRhodes]

If that train had have been empty, there was a chance it could’ve derailed. Those flatbed cars are lightweight, so the force from the emergency brake application could’ve potentially lifted the cars off of their trucks.

[@tommywatterson5276]

Military equipment coming from or headed to Ft Bragg / Fayette"nam"

[@charlesstevenson5141]

I'd be scared shitless to stop that much mass that fast and not end up all over the place. That was a light load though compared to a train full of aggregate, coal, etc plus the fact this train actually wasn't all that long either.

[@themanfromcabowabo1559]

What is TPDX as opposed to DODX? For example DODX 42424 at 1:20 and TPDX 955732 at 7:43 I put both in at RR Picture Archives but no results on either.

[@jamesm6638]

I would assume DOD is Department of Defense but as for TPD I found this kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5aXlZWVoayDgZYsi=becNsZcbyGNyQIE1

[@Foxymorris9236]

I think the banging is comeing from the flat cars but I'm not too shure

[@billmorris2613]

I counted 62 cars on the first train.

[@rJayisawesome]

Lucky it was just the third car down....

[@ocsrc]

Is 9 used to get emergency response from dispatch on every location or just on this line ?

[@kryptotransit]

On CN in Canada its *0#, every railway has their own little numbers you dial in

[@ocsrc]

@@kryptotransit that combination of codes is very dangerous PBX systems use * to transfer a call, 0 gives you an open outside line, and # disconnects you from that call Many scammers, especially in NYC, they would go to JFK airport, I don't know why, I just know they did, usually in the middle of the night here because it was the middle of the day in the country they wanted to call, They would dial companies that were manned 24 hours a day and had 800 numbers So, I was working for a company that we had a lot of remote communication sites, and we had 800 numbers so sat trucks and techs could call us from wherever without needing any money, and they got the control room, so we could set up paths for them to send their feeds I would get these calls around 1am to 4am every night, and someone with a heavy accent would be claiming to be from the phone company and had to check our lines and they said the code to check the line was *0# We logged everything in and out and I immediately called my boss and they called the FBI They told us this is a huge problem Apparently it is a well known way to make illegal calls in America known in most foreign countries Many people who don't know anything about PBX systems would get these calls and follow the callers instructions and the call seemed to hang up In fact they had given unlimited access to the company phone lines and the company would get a phone bill for millions of dollars the next month Many analog frequencies used by companies have phone patches We had our own private VHF and UHF repeaters to communicate over 3 states bouncing from tower to tower We used different 2 digit codes to link sites and each site had a phone patch for emergency We used ** to activate the phone patch and ## to hang up This was back when ham radios were not easy to obtain and the places that sold them made sure you had an FCC license before selling a radio to you Then Radio Shack came along And the salesmen were only looking at the nice commission they were going to make off a 500 dollar sale Cell phones didn't exist. But a small group of people who I imagine had scanners heard us making phone calls and they started illegally using our towers It became such a problem that we couldn't use our own towers because they would be on there illegally using our towers all the time. We had special receivers hooked up and crystaled for a frequency we only used in an emergency to shut down the network We had to turn off the power to the whole network and then we went out to each site and disconnected the phone lines and we would hear the ** many times, and people who used to get the dial tone would be waiting and they would** again and again and finally got the message that we had disconnected all our phone patches Now, thanks to encrypted DMR and digital trunking people can't get onto most systems The railroads are supposed to be switching to NXDN for all their Communications by 2025 and they are supposed to have fully computer controlled trains using PTC The engineer will be there in case of emergency but the trains will drive themselves It is supposed to be much smoother and faster than humans The locomotive will know what the signals are and the locations of all the other trains on the lines and the track switch positions They will be able to run much closer together and they won't have to wait at sidings and signals The speed will be adjusted so there is only one or two minutes between one train clearing a switch or block and the next one coming through. I have seen the track commands and the daily schedules entered into the dispatch computer. The commands are stacked up and they are sent as soon as the train clears A tanker train will be lined to come south and an intermodal will be next to come north The tanker train drops each signal and clears the blocks Once the absolute control point is cleared, even though they still can't come north because the tanker train has 5 more miles to go, the BCP sends the command string for the blocks and switches and signals from that ACP to the yard 17 miles north The MCPs acknowledge the command string, and execute the commands and report each bit change to the BCP Once the tanker train enters the yard the BCP in the yard sends the command string for the ACPs from the yard to the other ACP controlled by the BCP at the next ACP The BCPs will only send maybe 12 actionable command strings over a 24 hour period 1 for each train committed to come through the line. The MCPs will send hundreds of actionable commands during the same 24 hours, as each indication bit changes With the computer running the trains, instead of having a 30 minute delay between each of the 4 trains coming from the north yard to the south yard, from 1 end of the line to the other, They will FLEET the 4 trains and set that bit and set the FLEET direction bit So, what took 4 hours, now the first train will leave, the second train won't have to wait for a Green Signal The second train will leave 1 minute after the EOT passes out of the yard. It will follow 1 mile behind the first train, and the third train will leave 1 minute after the EOT of the 2nd train leaves the yard, and the 4th train will follow 1 mile behind the third train. So the first train arrives in the yard in 30 minutes and slows as it pulls onto a yard track The second , third and 4th train adjust speeds The first train clears the yard switch and the BCP throws the switch to the track for the second train. The second train pulls in 35 minutes after the first train left the north yard The 3rd and 4th trains adjust their speed The 2nd train clears the yard switch and the BCP throws the switch to the track for the 3rd train and it enters the yard 45 minutes after the first train left the north yard The 4th train adjusts it's speed As soon as the 3rd train clears the yard switch the BCP throws the yard switch to the track for the 4th train. And 1 hour after the first train left the north yard, all 4 trains are in the south yard In 1 hour the computer has done what took humans 4 hours to do All through better communication and control This is actually not new The NYC subways use this exact same system to run their trains They could never run the subway without using this tight control and minimal distance between trains. You see the signals every 100 feet, and it had to be like this because they didn't have computer radio controlled trains back then The signals were used as the active feedback to the train Now it is radio packets going from the locomotive to the 220 MHz PTC ground entry points. And that feeding the dispatch computer and the computer sending packets back out to the locomotives and the ground devices using the BCP It will change the way railroads run

[@ocsrc]

4 on 84 calls dispatch ?

[@stevengarrett7222]

Are the wheels still turning in emergency or do they lock up

[@appleintosh]

They still turn. If the brakes lock up for a significant amount of distance, it tends to destroy the wheels.

[@bbtwownsunite4eve928]

Where was this going dam alot of fuel storage trucks and troop transport 10% of that train was cakes

[@starlight122012]

Off to port to ship off to the ME no doubt.

[@kathymckenna6792]

@@starlight122012 p p

[@dmtribaltyphoon5001]

am i the only one that saw a Willis Jeep on the Cars? kinda odd for that to be on a 21st century military train

[@dmtribaltyphoon5001]

nevermind it was a flatbed humvee.........

[@randybennett7643]

Might miss a tank or two lol

[@stevenshortt1538]

Engineer: "Can we do some stretch braking?" Radio: "eeeeeeeeeeh, no" Engineer: "....ok...." lmao

[@kensummerlin180]

I started doing it anyway

[@lancestar9217]

7:18 why does it say customer service on the side?

[@MrWetnutz]

Time to grab a tank.

[@michaelturner4457]

Are these all these Abrams, and Humvees, etc. leftovers from Iraq or Afghanistan or something,

[@bbtwownsunite4eve928]

Tanks lmfao

[@ezekielbaryoh7838]

Come on

[@mrmustangman]

imagine how much money is riding on that thing.!!!!!!!

[@toddw6716]

The military wasted a lot of money painting those vehicles tan. The enemy had no long range weapons or airplanes, so no need to conceal them.

[@MichaelK.]

Have you ever seen a bivouac site? It's very hard to spot either in the desert or open fields. Long-range weapons are useless if you can't see the target. Besides, most insurgents drive up close to an AO, launch a few motars then drive off, hoping they hit something critical.

[@cmphighpower]

Why not just put car 3 to the end? That way you could avoid that from hitting

[@ArtStoneUS]

At least it was a short walk back to the problem

[@jackx4311]

cmphighpower - because they didn't KNOW it was hanging down, dimwit! In any case, it doesn't matter where it is in the train; if any of the pipework gets damaged, the brakes go on.

[@RT-qd8yl]

@@jackx4311 No need to be rude.

[@Craigparker1978]

@@jackx4311 always seems like the people who put others down are the ones who only care about making themselves feel better

[@mrmustangman]

@@jackx4311 🐓🍭 alert ⚠

[@ezekielbaryoh7838]

Dude

[@OCBeachLife]

Flat spot city !

[@damkayaker]

I don't like the markings on those vehicles!

[@ravenbishop5232]

Putin's trains are getting shorter and shorter to where he will only have the engine left

[@danielbecker4365]

Wood ties tracks? No CWR tracks on concrete tie like russian trains?

[@mexicanbanditopatron7994]

proof positive that trains can stop in a hurry

[@Shadydudeonthecorner]

It causes flat spots on the wheels tho and can cause even more damage

[@mexicanbanditopatron7994]

@@Shadydudeonthecorner flats spots on wheel is nothing compared to loss of life and damage to private property

[@a1ar127]

A whole lotta armor there…. Probably gonna sell it off or donate to all the muni police departments that need them for their drug raids.