FAST Train Goes Into Emergency in Downtown Royal Oak!

Today, I decided to go out for CN E251 once I heard it had a duo of SD70M-2s but I did NOT expect this to happen. As the 31st car went by, you can hear ALL of the train’s air release and boom.
What had happened was There was some signal crews at the station waiting on E251 and 251 was flying by, right before they took the signal, it dropped out on them throwing the train into emergency and popping an air hose as well. It was there fora good 90 minutes!
It didn’t help that this right in the middle of a bad grade! It is 1.3% from about 6th Street up to Raven. The rest of hill up to South Boulevard is about 0.6%
CN 8887 and 8829 lead this train which was 132 cars… 101 of them were loaded….
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[@MoserBagel]

1:22

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Yup that’s when it was.

[@carrollcameron7472]

Seeing the people, men and women, walking between the cars just gives one the chills. One misstep and your head meets a knuckle, or the train moves and knocks you off balance as you're climbing over the couplers, RIP.

[@FlyingEagleTV]

It almost happened when the train started rolling forward… for once, I’m glad I accidentally panned away from that…

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

Calm down grampa. You are going to have a heart attack... again.

[@Wulfle]

@@marioxerxescastelancastro8019 Don't be an asshole to someone about their hobby. Heavy machinery can be lethal and everyone should maintain a safe distance from whatever is operating.

[@georgesheffield1580]

All trying to win the Darwin award .

[@kishascape]

Better over than under though.

[@beulahpowell1478]

That train had good brakes. Never have I ever seen one stop so quickly. Awesome filming. Thanks.

[@thomasklimchuk441]

Empty cars stop a lot faster than loaded ones will

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Empty up front. Loaded in back… I wonder if the loads further back dragged the train a little. It was going up on a grade too.

[@littlesemi7795]

Yeah it did. Normally for every MPH they are going it takes 100 feet

[@Johnny64ism]

True That @@thomasklimchuk441

[@ronsmith8475]

You guys have some terrific car taggers. ABSOLUTE ART!!

[@lawrenceeytcheson1317]

B.s. graffiti is a criminal act and should be treated such.

[@alfa_guy09]

Holy crap, I remember this day very well I can see the train tracks from my school, and I looked out the window right after my last class and I saw that train stopped, and I wondered what happened. As soon as I left school, i ran towards downtown RO and I just had never seen something like this happen before. I got to the other side of the tracks by going under 11 Mile Rd, and I also saw people climbing in between the train cars, which is not a very good idea. I think it took about an hour and a half for the train to leave, but I do remember seeing another train on the other track going slowly past, which I don’t know what that was about So yeah, it was very confusing for me because I didn’t know what happened 15:40 THATS ME!!! I obviously didn’t know that somebody was filming, so I decided to walk across and look to see if there was anything else

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Haha! I was wondering who that was or what was going on… I thought you were a railfan but I was confused when you weren’t recording. That makes sense though! 🤣🤣

[@alfa_guy09]

@@FlyingEagleTVyeah, I was filming earlier when the train was stopped

[@Afroman29]

Those people trying to climb over the train never learned about train safety. ☝️

[@arthuridis]

Seems like a lot of people in that area have their heads up their asses most of the time.

[@EarlJohn61]

What's that?

[@ArantiusVulpes]

as an engineer myself i was yelling "your ditchlights are off"

[@suzannemoore4519]

What is a ditch light?

[@RajaRhodes]

@@suzannemoore4519 those two lights at the bottom of the locomotive. They’re supposed to be on at all times especially when going thru a public crossing.

[@EarlJohn61]

Just proves that these trains can stop on a dime... That's 3 miles down the track! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@skimmer8774]

WOW! I'll bet that made the evening news. Enormous train aggravates enormous crowds at rush hour. 😮

[@Josh31287]

I'm amazed at how fast that train stopped..... especially if those automobile haulers had vehicles in them

[@opiumextract2934]

They aren't as heavy as you would think.

[@MikeMcClintockNotVeep]

In that direction those car haulers are empty

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Empty SB, loaded with Fords going NB.

[@Garfie1d73]

@@FlyingEagleTV So no real cars ... just Fords ... 😆

[@SuperIliad]

I thought the train had no end.

[@jayc222]

Royal Oak had some royal traffic jams for a bit.

[@bradjames6748]

I bet he was popular with the people of Royal Oak

[@arthuridis]

Ha ha. Good, stressed out yuppies can't wait. You can hear the horns honking in their cars. The pedestrians scrambling acting neurotic.

[@arthuridis]

Look at those mentally defective pedestrians jumping the train. This area is known for numerous deaths in the past. Why do these people take a risk like that?

[@bethweber9398]

All the train company has to do is remind the town, who was here 1st, us or you??

[@arthuridis]

@@bethweber9398 Obviously the railroad was. Seems as though some mental defectives in Ferndale don't understand that. Because there's a "NO TRAIN HORN" ordinance. Idiots riding bikes and pedestrians walking in front of trains with no care in the world.

[@jeffreyhemphill3831]

Oh yeah, they knew him by name and address after that I bet

[@randytrader3026]

Of course it's blocking half of the city ..

[@christophermilner1808]

That's the quickest I've ever seen one stop.

[@FlyingEagleTV]

It was pretty quick. Especially considering that pretty much the rest of the train was loaded and was pretty long too.

[@mrvwbug4423]

34 seconds from the air blast to complete stop, impressive

[@smw381st]

The quickest train to stop that i have seen is in the movie Hancock! lol

[@MusicLoverPearson]

That's one helluva long walk for the conductor

[@Cdntrvler54]

At least it was a long walk but in decent weather. Not like the wide open spaces in the COLD Prairies..

[@jameslashley3970]

Just a long walk, don't need any cussing ,

[@robotx9285]

I must agree, that's a long as hell walk.

[@allen480]

@@jameslashley3970 You call that cussing?

[@MusicLoverPearson]

@@jameslashley3970 hold up are you trying to say that when I said that's one helluva walk? Where do you see I cussed at? I'm 60 yrs old I can say whatever the hell I want to say?

[@conductormike3step]

I have seen first hand the result of unanticipated train movements from someone doing the same thing. I would rather not have to see that again. It is incredibly dumb to even get near a parked train. Those air hoses, though uncommon can randomly pop and send all kinds of debris flying. Even when a train is moving it can derail sending those cars into unknown directions faster than you can get away. When we are parked I let people walk up to the locomotives and see them up close, especially the kiddos, but that’s only because I’m there to ensure they don’t do anything unsafe and can ask them back up when it’s time for movement. Stay safe out there. Not really a rail fan myself but a lot of us do enjoy seeing you guys out there. We can use a lot of these videos to bring awareness to the ridiculous PSR non sense and what we go through on the job. Keep videoing and posting them. It actually helps railroaders in a funny kind of way.

[@Diabeeetus1]

So many square wheels, it's like a Canadian Southpark train 😜

[@iankillen5242]

That's the longest train I have ever seen imagine if all those cars had to be transported by trucks.

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

How may trains have you seen? 3?

[@Wulfle]

@@marioxerxescastelancastro8019 Not as many as you but at least he's humble. Being a rail-fan, I would expect a lot better from a member of this community. Just because you're having emotional trouble doesn't give you the right to hurt others.

[@photoballa]

@@Wulfle this guy is such a dick saw him dissing someone else in another comment

[@peteacher52]

The only trains I have seen to equal or exceed this one's length are the ore trains of Pilbara in Western Australia. On 21 June 2001, the line broke the world record for the heaviest train as well as the longest train when a train weighing 99,734 tons and formed of 682 wagons ran for 275 kilometres between Yandi and Port Hedland. The train was 7.3 kilometres long, carried 82,000 tons of iron ore, and was hauled by eight GE AC6000CW locomotives

[@jshilohshea381]

Light load and good thing not going faster or take another 1/4 mile to stop... ..miss watching the trains.....thanks....for sharing...going to watch more and enjoy some pop and popcorn 🍿..oh new subscriber..

[@robertcovell2787]

I'm sitting here watching this train go by and I'm thinking " is there any end to this thing?" And imagine my surprise when I discovered that there is an end to it!

[@smw381st]

I ran it in double time lol

[@Allegheny500]

My count might be off by one or two but it was 131 cars long.

[@smw381st]

@@Allegheny500 That is about what i counted too.

[@elunedevans1017]

Surely it must be more than a mile long ?????

[@yogiperogy]

I was surprised there was no DPU….or did I doze off due to the mesmerizing effect of endless auto carriers? Lack thereof would explain the length of time to get up speed.

[@CapStar362]

that was some of the most detailed Graffiti i have ever seen. The Crow/Raven head, the Tamales, "2MUCH"............ some good art there, now if only they would put that stuff where it was LEGAL these people might actually get recognized for their work and not arrested :D and yes, that was a pretty fast stop for the speed.

[@thetriplem2661]

I agree on both points. I gotta wonder, how much overspray of paint ends up on new vehicles. I doubt these are only painted when empty, unless they are carefully guarded all the while loaded.

[@CapStar362]

@@thetriplem2661 in Atlanta alone, ive seen empty car carriers just sit for weeks on end, at places like, Inman, Tilford, Industry and Hulsey Yards. But when they are at the auto plants, they are contained within fences that have active and roaming Security, and lighting that is STUPID bright. Its crazy how the actual factories have more security than the yards do.

[@CapStar362]

@@thetriplem2661 Gainesville, which is local to me is apparently going to be getting a small yard itself for NS.

[@ramblerdave1339]

That train was blocking about 10 grade crossings, must have tied up all of downtown Royal Oak.

[@arthuridis]

S. Washington W. 4th St. W. 5th St./Center pedestrian walk. W. 6th St. S.Main St. W. Lincoln Ave. W. Hudson St. W. Harrison St. 8 crossings.

[@ramblerdave1339]

@@arthuridis That was just an estimate, on my part, I knew it was quite a few.

[@KiRiTO72987]

I love how you can just hear the cars straining as the locomotive begines to take up the slaxk to get moving again

[@YouWontFindMeSoStopSearching]

Wow! that train stopped quick!

[@smw381st]

That is what happens when they lose air!

[@Utubin]

Very nice camera. Crystal clear.👍

[@charleskesner1302]

Great catch. Thanks.

[@Schola718]

I fee bad for the conductor, had to walk that train

[@paulellis2248]

Thanks from doncaster uk 🇬🇧

[@jmcfarlandjr]

I can't imagine how hot those brake pads got.

[@jerryhubbard4461]

that train is over two miles long. MONEY MONEY MONEY

[@ellebystrainvideos2023.]

Excellent Video!!!

[@Schola718]

The engineer said the signal dropped and that’s what sent them into emergency.

[@EntertainmentWorldz]

great train video bro ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@JamesPrewitt-ps6sl]

Very good. You got it on record. Keep it going.

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Yeh buddy!

[@Karmahandle]

I think these car haulers are empty. The springs don't look compressed. That could be why it was able to stop so quickly.

[@thomasklimchuk441]

When we were bringing out of frontier yard, i noticed the carman would due up those tri level cars with plastic cable staps on the hosebag gladhands to stop them coming undone when the strack would run or out

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

1:22 The train driver opened a soda can and stopped the train so that he can drink without it spilling.

[@alanharris7878]

Hopping a live train is truly insane behavior

[@steveray4708]

Impressive tagging .. artistic 😂

[@lesanderson8333]

That that video was sure exciting😮.

[@aronkings]

Out of all the years we have been railfanning we never seen something like this! Unreal catch! Also what was 251's track speed when approaching Washington? 40? 45 mph? Because they were moving and very interesting to see how fast 251 came to stop after mvoing that fast!

[@FlyingEagleTV]

On that main it’s either 40 or 45. It changes a lot once you get to Ferndale.. especially going northbound. Yeah it was a first for me. Thanks for watching!

[@andywomack3414]

I did a rough guess assuming auto-rack length, and counting time in my head, and came up with around 35 mph. Considerable margin of error in that. Using a stop-watch and better knowledge of car-lengths an accurate estimate could be made. I counted about a thousand feet of train passing by after the air went down. 90" foot auto-rack length assumed. When I worked for the RR engineers described handling an auto-rack train was as if they were coupled together with rubber-bands. I don't know if they were prone to dropping air-hoses though.

[@terrancecampbell216]

They have to go faster north bound to climb the grade they go slower going south or downgrade

[@EuroScot2023]

All I could think watching this is how similar it was to Vietnam. The railways of the USA are Third World. My other reaction was - Hmm. This is supposed to be a fast train? What are the slow ones like?

[@babygorilla4233]

@@EuroScot2023 unfortunately we have an amazingly exspancive rail network here. But it was made ages ago and is more or less all just freight.

[@sernajrlouis]

Cool video and channel just subscribed

[@coldblue9mm]

With all those empties up against the headend power, it's a wonder the loads didn't scatter them all over the place. They got very lucky.

[@stuff_n_thanngs7552]

Interesting that once the slack stretches out it went in emergency AGAIN.

[@organist660]

i know a kid that was car hoping. and fell as it was moving. he was in a full cast for a long time. as his leg was almost cut clean off.

[@williamalton2695]

The good Lord was watching over that train and the workers.

[@varshaprasad9996]

Everythime watching this engine make me remember unstoppable movie😂

[@ericzerkle8486]

I've seen them stop like this in my town on the NS WLR. The last time was because they hit an auto that got stuck on the tracks. No injures though.

[@cliffords.8341]

Boy that's the fastest train I've ever seen. 🤪

[@smw381st]

You must have seen some really slow trains hahaha.

[@cliffords.8341]

@@smw381st The whole video showed slow train(s), but the video title said fast train and I didn't see any.

[@smw381st]

@@cliffords.8341 Lol ok

[@babygorilla4233]

I know it's probably more complicated, but ya if the train had braked like that when a problem was noticed. The whole Ohio thing seems avoidable.

[@jimmcafee2843]

saw this train later in Pontiac. Youn don't see so many gons on the head head of a long train very often.

[@amtrakandcsxrailfanning351]

Awesom intasting scary catch of this Canadian National freight with lots of auto racks in it at the most It just sound like just a pop air hose situation I’ve also cotton soothing like this with a CSX auto rack but the crew that I cought had a knuckle break That was a little bit more scary

[@irenemierzwa3790]

Sorry but I'm new to this. How long was that train?! Seems like miles long.

[@Dreamworld986]

Holy Moly! How many years long was this train?

[@KirkHermary]

Around my area(Red Deer, Alberta, Canada) we have trains in excess of 2.6mi/4.2km long. It's not uncommon to have 2 to 5 engines in front, 1 to 3 in the middle, and 1 to 3 on the tail end. The coal trains that supply China's steel mills are literally miles long. Just engines and coal cars.

[@jerryhubbard4461]

They say a freight train can't stop on a dime. I say this one stopped on some change. A damn long one too.

[@thatoneguy611]

The stopping distance of trains is greatly exaggerated by PSA’s and people unfamiliar with trains.

[@b43xoit]

Length shouldn't matter. Each car has brakes.

[@melkaman8200]

Was the signal drop/emergency an automatic thing, or did they manually dump the air when the signal went red in front of them? Also, do we know why the ditch lights were not illuminated?

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Yes it was automatic. Not sure on the ditch lights though

[@cups3]

@@FlyingEagleTV Automatic they have some sort of ATC there ?

[@Th3M4larky]

@@cups3 Trains have Air Traffic Control? /s

[@TowGuy90]

The signal dropped and PTC put them in emergency the the air line leaking made then unable to build air.

[@cjsnidlio9409]

​@Flying Eagle TV why did it go red at the last moment?

[@theprior46]

It seemed like that train was pulling about 2 miles of containers. There looked more like 300+ of them and what kind of power does a diesel engine have to output to pull that lot? And we moan here in the UK if we have to wait 15 minutes with the gates closed and sitting in cars with engine off twiddling our thumbs. Awesome video

[@F-14DSuperTomcat]

The locomotives seen in the video are EMD SD70s, they output 4,500 hp. GE engines typically put out 4,400 hp

[@Dutch3DMaster]

While my math knowledge is rusty and horsepower can't be easily converted to kilonewtons, I think 2 Taurus locomotives would be able to pull this, since a single Taurus has 300kN of pulling force. I don't know if that force is available at all voltages though.

[@kc5gos11]

How many cars was attached to that train?..i was raised by the tracks and I learned Train safety pretty quick..Love trains..Thanks for the video..

[@richardrimel2306]

I know a man who was a track runner in high school made state in the 80s got both legs cut off hopping a train sadly he passed in the late 90s rip Mike

[@LarryButler-kp3se]

2MUCH At 11:45, on the skin of an auto transporter is the finest graffiti I've ever seen! He even planned a slot to leave the car data untouched. So unfortunate this great art talent is wasted...

[@trainrover]

situation resolved 👀 💡 👀 how many footbridges or underpasses might've already come to grace these towns since this was filmed..?

[@cnhollysub6496]

I heard the dispatcher talking to the maintainer about this. He also had a work train he was going to run behind this one. Thought he was going to run it on main #1. Did you see it go by while this one was stopped?

[@FlyingEagleTV]

I heard about that too but I was there for about a good 20 min or so after they were outta sight and never got a signal or visual.. so I went home.

[@peidmontdivisionproduction5406]

Sounded like a detached air hose

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Yeah there was. That’s why it took so long.

[@JanetSilversides]

That what I thought, too. I heard a loud hiss then the train started slowing down.

[@JointedStudios]

Ive been on an amtrak trip to here with IDTX 4617 leading. It was on summer of 2021 and never have I known something like this would happen where i've been. Weird

[@gabe8976]

4:55 nice ich piece there on the right car

[@lanegoodspeed5103]

How long was that train?

[@Butkusfan1]

Gotta kicker or a low hose across the crossing between the racks? You guess is as good as mine????

[@uradragon]

How long is that train? The occasional pounding sound, is that a bad bearing? thanks. heck of a thing to witness.

[@beltrams]

It's the sound when a wheel/axle with a flat spot goes by. That, in turn, is caused by the wheels sliding locked on the rail when braked hard and under certain conditions as I understand it. I heard quite a few ones pounding in the video myself. At some point, such wheels need to be taken off and rounded/ground back to round. Pounding too much like that is not good for the rail and can cause the wheel/axle to outright fail if the pounding gets strong enough. I'm not a railroad person myself, so railroaders, please correct me and/or supply better details.

[@uradragon]

@@beltrams Thank you

[@michaelanthonyvideos]

Whoa 😳

[@terrancecampbell216]

This was in the town I grew up in

[@ErikMatthWoodrYT]

Just subscribed

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Thanks man

[@thomasaitken7495]

6:30 almost about to see Darwin Award candidates.

[@viktoraccordion331]

Wish I was here to see it in front of my eyes And the braking is about 118 decibels and luckily in RO there are overpasses North of ROY station A broken air hose caused the safety brake to automatically deploy

[@FlyingEagleTV]

Yeah, that’s where everyone was going as seen for a few seconds

[@Train-vg9pu]

That train had to been about 2 miles long since each one of those Auto cars are 95 ft long.

[@nancy8521]

Greetings from usa

[@dougsrepair1060]

That is a lot of rolling stock. I cant even imagine the dollar value of a train.

[@organist660]

the person is nuts for doin g that..

[@HugeRademaker]

Here in Europe we call this a slow train....

[@b43xoit]

Can an emergency brake application, in and of itself, damage anything?

[@TowGuy90]

yes, you can derail a train by dumping it. funny thing is in school we were told to dump it if it was emergency, soon as i went on the road learned real quick not to

[@happyraver1958]

Some wheels sound like they have a flat spot somewhere, it doesn't sound safe, especially at those speeds, it seems to be going at about forty five miles per hour, for a train, that's really fast!!

[@davidranger4468]

45mph for a train is painfully slow. Local passenger trains do 90mph where I live and regional trains 125mph. Even the freight trains run at a minimum of 60mph with new 100mph freight trains on the way.

[@smw381st]

I would think the heavier cars would be towards the front of the train unless they were empty.

[@LegendaryRadioJock]

Sadly this is less likely due to precision scheduled railroading.

[@smw381st]

@@LegendaryRadioJock Fairly flat terrain probably too.

[@lawrencepecho5204]

How many cars in this train? Any law to regulate max number of cars allowed? Where to report the number to regulate number?

[@drayan293]

A route does have some rules. Essentially in the form of maximum length, maximum weigth and minimum power. ( It’s not exprimed by the number of cars because they are not all the same )

[@HappyQuailsLC]

I wonder how the mismatching of cats effects how it handles

[@heavenlydays2838]

Those "Auto Racs" only train car I consider .Most Dangerous for derail.

[@jangroot4493]

How long was this train and how many axles?

[@PostalWorker14]

Trains keep the country moving

[@user-jl1dy7il4k]

Can you say , Deferred maintenance !!!!!!!!!!!!🙄

[@janibeg3247]

right across the street from Rene's Barbershop

[@-laydeeintrigue-]

Absolute best place for this to happen. /s

[@arthuridis]

Good. Let them yuppies wait. Bunch of impatient Michigan people.

[@natetallman]

I'll be honest. The graffiti is kind of awesome.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

Is that the old grand trunk line that used to go through Durand?

[@arthuridis]

Yes.

[@michaelhudecek2778]

😊😊😊😊

[@stebstebanesier6205]

How do they make such fine lines and crisp boarders with rattle cans.

[@sethcragan6649]

They have specialized spray tips for doing specific things. You should look up graffiti vids on KZbin, it's really quiet amazing.

[@bgorveatt]

CN Canadian National

[@benwoodaide4099]

Hey I'm only 10 but I have a question what is the train symbol of the one that comes through royal oak at 7:50 ?

[@benwoodaide4099]

AM in the morning

[@justinr7221]

L515

[@kansascityshuffle8526]

Signal dropped out and it plugged? Must be ptc.

[@railwaychristina3192]

One platform?

[@classof813]

All the seven Big companies were represented!

[@arthuridis]

I'll still see GT orphaned stuff around.

[@johnnakisner2482]

Guess it lost its air again

[@ronaldgundrum2174]

Playing on the train tracts is not cool.