Millionaire Influencers Complaining About How Hard Their Job Is

Pewdiepie and me watch an old clip that resurfaced about mikayla nogueira complaining how hard it is to be an influencer. So we decided to give our sage opinions.
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[@clazluvsdolphins]

"Meetings from 12 to 5" = she meets her hairdresser, she meets her friends, she meets her therapist, she meets her nail bar technician, she meets her booty call and she meets the mirror and says "Bitch you aced those meetings"

[@cleveranonym74]

Booty call lmao 💀🤣

[@babychantal]

😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@theab3957]

Wait, just 5 hours of meetings? Some people do that from 9-5, and even that isn't all that hard.

[@spiritualphenomenon2413]

Cringe I hate women hahqhq

[@DisorientedWanderer]

I imagine she whines to her therapist about how hard her life is being an influencer meanwhile the therapist is struggling to hold back a migraine while thinking "bitch, I have to listen to people like you daily for hours. Get over yourself"

[@ronanmalley]

I hate when influencers say that their job is hard. My mom works 10 hours every day at a hospital and is sometimes harassed about the fact that she's "not working enough".

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

All jobs have their "difficult" aspects, it's when you make other jobs look/feel inferior compared to yours lies the problem.

[@Animerulespeople]

is she a nurse?

[@bananko8668]

Oh yeah? I work 10 hours a day as a construction worker. I'm always outside, even when it's 40 degrees celsius Imagine being on a roof 10 hours a day in that heat

[@blackparademistress1]

@MotoCouple women also work physical labour jobs. Instead of making it about men maybe just anyone that works a physical labour job? And I definitely think some jobs are “easier” regarding skill, how much you have to think etc. but aren’t necessarily easier overall because you get yelled at by someone the whole time, it’s physically uncomfortable, or even so goddamn mind numbingly boring that doing it for 8 hours is almost torture. So “easyness” is relative and I don’t think people can comment unless they’ve worked all these jobs and even then something that’s easy for one person might not be easy for another.

[@rebel_squad8025]

I know what it’s like. I work at a hospital and for a while during early 2020 because of covid I did 16 hours a day

[@Slxt4sorrow]

As a healthcare worker I would love to see her run around for 12 hours straight taking care of multiple patients.

[@jamiephilip79]

Without a break!

[@emsfra7412]

& on a salary of like 5% of what she gets in a year

[@AnnieMacasaur]

SAME

[@shaylatorch]

Exactly

[@nicolabreuss328]

Damn respect, it's so disgusting that people like you don't earn shit while lazy fucks doing their makeup cry about their hard work... People like you keep the world going 👍👍

[@User-yu8er]

Mikayla used to be known as the girl who uses filters for false advertisement of beauty products while denying any use of filters. Now she's known as the girl complaining about being an influencer.

[@annmarie2370]

and now she’s known as the girl who is still false advertising

[@harukanaru0715]

This comment aged so well 💀

[@syeyonkang8956]

@@annmarie2370 LMAO

[@fufufluffmuffin]

I'm not a fan of her.

[@cami5413]

omgg that was actually a thing back then too?? I thought it was her first time now :oo

[@LydiAtheistLady]

These guys should do a podcast together. It’s fun just listening to the banter.

[@kit106]

Dude yes I’d definitely tune in but I doubt Felix would like that

[@Big-BossX]

they used to it was called BroKen

[@bignate16million]

I absolutely love this idea 🔥❤️🔥

[@auqa3456]

Yeah BroKen Podcast

[@imconfuseded]

Maybe they could make a pun with the bros and ken...BroKen podcast maybe

[@hellboy7908]

I love when ken and pewds collab, they always get so distracted in talking but it’s still wholesome

[@allisonkoester]

I grew up watching them back in the day so it’s so nice to see them now and how comfortable they make me feel

[@SunIsLost]

Yes

[@garethmurray5901]

I love it when Ken wears that shirt and looks completely beautiful in that shirt.

[@boratpajamas_]

They stayed pretty on topic today! 😅

[@Misspelled_Etahn]

Next we need Felix on the channel

[@anastaskalitskaya8089]

what i think a lot of people really got upset with is how « amount of effort put in » to « amount of money paid » for influencers is quite different than for other jobs. for example, a medical worker obviously works and studies much harder than a tiktoker, but receives a pay that is not even comparable to influencers’ pay. so from this perspective hearing someone say making tiktoks is harder than other jobs seems ridiculous tbh

[@hanfalcy1201]

This ❤

[@CassyGoyette]

THIS THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL BEEN ABOUT

[@joesr31]

If its that easy, everyone can be a successful influencer. The tough part of being an influencer imo is not really the technical skills, its the insanely high competition

[@yaoipatient]

i agree but it also i think depends on the brand deals they get

[@willster2967]

@@joesr31 Not just competition (it's barely that), it's mostly luck. Just like being a billionaire is mostly luck. The jobs not that hard, it's just getting the job that is. So that further adds to the idea of people being annoyed by what she said. She got lucky and is saying it's so hard and most people couldn't do it... and she's right, cause most of us could never get that lucky. If we got their I'm sure we could put up with all the "meetings" if it meant we got to pick our own hours and make a LOT of money.

[@angelicasysnila5476]

I can only agree that the most difficult part of being an influencer is the mental stress for chasing views. You can't ignore that. It's huge. And she did not mention this.

[@lucy.vonahlften]

good observation

[@jimmythe-gent]

I like how Felix made it sound like Ken said the dreaded HIJKLM…OPQR -word _Hey!!_

[@mahdireza5695]

I agree. The way content creation works is VERY easy (even crappy Roblox edits from 9 year old YT/ TikTok accounts count) BUT it is tiring to keep up with popularity rates. STILL, waaay easier than jobs that literally save lives.

[@RagingRaven88]

I think the biggest insult about this whole situation is that this influencer can complain about long hours and being very exhausted with the whole social media game but someone else who lives a typical life works just as many hours can get only a 10th of the amount of income that this woman can. This woman has a lot of options in which she can quit and live off her savings, many people can't say the same.

[@xx-bu1hx]

The only difference is she's a Tiktoker that makes pennies per thousand. If she were a KZbinr it would be an entirely different story.

[@ScottyDoesntKnow69]

If your working a regular job and getting a 10th of what they make then your doing very well for yourself.

[@chipskylark5500]

@@xx-bu1hx but if you have a large TikTok following it's much easier to become a KZbinr or twitch streamer

[@ohrenschmalz]

To combat this unfairness: Use any opportunity you get to better your skills and do something you think is worth it.

[@bdkplaysx]

​@@xx-bu1hx yeah you're forgetting about brand deals. she don't like her fans, which I'm assuming you are, because you're defending her. and you know how I know she don't like yall? she lied to your face for money.

[@hanayakako]

I unironically loved how Ken and Pewds handled the topic. They're the OGs, the masters of their craft, the pioneers. They're respectfully calling her (as well as other influencers like her) out on her bs because they know all about it and dealt with it. Thank you senseis

[@chuaelaine5341]

Sorry to intrude. What does OG mean? Boomer here😅

[@ShianneSowards]

@@chuaelaine5341 Original/Originals :)

[@chuaelaine5341]

@@ShianneSowards thanks so much sweetie!

[@ShianneSowards]

@@chuaelaine5341 No worries ☺

[@RaeneTheFaerie]

@@chuaelaine5341 Original Gangster (OG). Can also be referred to an album by ICE-T.

[@CraftyKat470]

I’m a firm believer in the fact that it’s not up to me to judge how something effects another person… However. As a lab tech working in blood bank, I’ve spent multiple nights over 5 years being yelled at, and yelling back at ER doctors, ICU staff, and hearing the shaking in both of our voices as our patient is bleeding out and the only thing they can do is put blood back in them. You want to have a hard job. Try healthcare. Everyone in a hospital has a life on their hands. Wether or not that person gets to go home is on you.

[@iamOmarmG]

Extremely well said, my fellow human 👌🏻

[@DoniyRacing]

Lets be honest, we don't come here to watch the video they react. We come here just to watch Ken and Felix banter with each other and we live it.

[@sandatanidamocles]

I like it whenever Ken says Mary is his demographic. Makes me feel like I, too, am a successful, beautiful Australian mother of three.

[@BuyInternet]

You should be proud. Thanks for being a mom❤🙏🏼

[@kunilsen2519]

That's super cute lol

[@aak1992]

@@BuyInternet cringe

[@angelxbunny]

emphasis on beautiful

[@Username0467]

@@aak1992 it was a joke

[@chalynsiennalou9663]

Being an influencer sounds like being in sales... always changing, always competitive and your rewards are based off of efforts and time management.

[@SamanthaNStuff]

Plus a little bit of luck

[@magicdragon9621]

True. It's basically a marketing position.

[@xoyuri_art]

true, easier for them to say it's easy now because they have been OG's here on youtube for a decade. not as hard to make an effort when you put anything on the thumbnail you still get views

[@joesr31]

Its selling entertainment

[@skinsey85]

Exactly! It sounds exhausting and something I could never even fathom doing. I hate sales cus I have no skill for it, never mind trying to sell myself lol

[@agentmom0]

Mikaela needs to do some customer service work

[@jamiephilip79]

Definitely!

[@lennablake544]

That or the medical field

[@lindzybella2763]

She used to work at ulta but quit cuz she blew up on tiktok... now she's a lier false advertisement uses filters out the ass... plus has a fake accent and when she's called out for something she dissappears for a week or two and comes back not explaining nothing 😒 she had a gofundme get taking down never no explanation over it from the people who donated to try to win the Chanel bag...all kinds of stuff on her someone even has a reddit all about her.... she was just one of us and now she's worth millions of $....

[@MollyFC]

Call center job. I give her a week

[@neorise127]

​@@MollyFC she wouldn't last a day

[@piperadams2571]

I love that one of the biggest OG influencers is just straight calling her out on her bs 🤣🤣

[@katelyn02]

My Dads body is falling apart from working in the coal mines for 10 years to support our family… meanwhile she’s complaining about literally what seems like the easiest job 😂

[@SaintShion]

Didn't she film this when she had quit Ulta and just started SM influencing? I think she also just centing how she was surprised how hard it was. Idk if that's true, I saw a lot of ppl r saying that on my FYP. Some ppl were really mean and judging her. Idk why people are giving her so much hate tbh we don't know her full job or how she fully feels off of a small clip. We don't know her personally. All I'm saying is I feel bad she's getting such mean comments on TT. It's not like she said said "fuk the blue collar worker or working poor my jobs harder".

[@tsuneTheSlime]

@@SaintShion getting mean comments on the internet is part of her job though.... its the sad truth

[@Mesasie]

Hundreds of Thousands of blind ex welders enter the chat lol

[@razeredgerose]

My condolences to your dad and his health. I hope his sacrifice was not in vain and your family is doing well

[@JordanEst]

SHE USED WAY TO MUCH DRESSING

[@ultimaq8730]

I love it when Ken says something controversial as a joke and Pewds is like "Not gonna touch that..." You guys are a great duo. Love me some CinnamonPie

[@cruisematt8585]

“CinnamonPie” lol I love it

[@SohaillGandhi]

"CinnamonPie" is the best thing I have ever heard! 😂

[@chipskylark5500]

CinnamonCreamPie

[@IslandEmpressTarot]

I do think it’s harder than people realize from the outside looking in, but overall it’s an incredibly doable job. You are your own boss and you get to choose when you want to work and how much you want to work. There is soooo much flexibility and leisure which you will not get with conventional jobs. If its so hard for her, she could work elsewhere

[@Imauser88]

If that's hard for her then she won't be able to work anywhere else

[@8read_]

i love this it's like a therapy session for both of them to rant about random things lmao

[@CaseyForest]

I love when Scott adds himself into the videos. Such a good editor and then he does that and I die every time. Always when you least expect it 😂

[@pierr6496]

Time stamp please?

[@clairebear1207]

6:07

[@SaintShion]

Honestly these 2 are large established YTers that seem removed from the scene of being a NEW influencer now and what it's like grinding. No hate to either of them, truly, their not doing it intentionally, its just a fact. I see a lot of larger YTers do react vids were they don't look up all the info. Also Im curious why many YTers will bandwagon hate. Being a long looong time fan of PDP, I know he's done this many times, but I know its not malicious. Kinda like when on his YLYL he dunked on a deaf girl for her signing w long nails w out knowing she's deaf. IMO worst of all...he sided with James Charles in Tati drama _shiver_ (jk). He even played games with him! Ick. That aged poorly. I'm not trying to shit talk btw, Im just adding small constructive criticism on how PDP cld read some quick articles (like cliffnotes lol), maybe watch a recap YT vid or something, anything. (* btw if you think I'm angry I'm not :) just hard to see PDP not know the full story and judge other ppl online as a fan). I sww a TT and Im Pretty sure (not 1p0% sure) this vid is from when she first quit Ukta and started her influencer career. Of course she isn't good at and overwhelmed if that's the case lol.

[@mehrabislamarnab1675]

@@SaintShion the deaf girl thing was retarded tbh. he was just casually watching some dumb tiktoks and making fun of them. expecting him to research the backgrounds of every tiktok he watches is kinda impractical, isn't it? same case with james charles. felix's take back then also made sense. yes james has other character issues but that doesn't change the fact that what tati tried to do was malicious and petty.

[@CosmicAli_TheObserver]

@@SaintShion what does that have to do with Scott?? 🙃

[@expensive_chocolate1926]

Watching pewds and ken ramble on about nonsense gives me such nostalgia, like catching up with old friends from school🥰🥰

[@yungbeast3308]

Mmm chocolate 🍫 😋😉🤣

[@Vadermods]

nostalgia like when anyone cared about pewdiepie?

[@susi9242]

Or like just the feeling of having friends..

[@RachLuvsParamore]

idk man the way they made fun of her looking likebthe "woman who buys chicken strips at the gas station" why shame a woman for looking normal wth

[@expensive_chocolate1926]

@@RachLuvsParamore is it really shaming? Because buying chicken strips is pretty normal. If they said something like a woman that sells used socks at stop light or someone who’d sell her car for gas money then it’d be a little mean.

[@dukeandnukem9654]

From a blue collar man with 4 kids farming goats, chickens, and a pig. You guys work so unbelievable hard lol, I love yalls content. Thank you.

[@shahidhassan4112]

"I don't want to be known" - the biggest KZbinr ever.

[@nrgbunni.]

Mary is the mastermind behind kens videos she's always finding that fresh, funny, popular, relevant vids to react to. On another note I have watched this ladies videos before she does really nice make-up videos and reviews beauty products, she got me onto these really glittery eyeshadows. It takes her a long time to do her make-up so that's probably why she films for so long and she does alot of brand deals so that's probably why she has lots of meetings but 12-5 is alot of meetings I'm unsure it would take that long.

[@hablin1]

Mary is the hero behind Ken 👍🥰

[@yungbeast3308]

Wahh it sounds soo hard.. 🤣

[@pashatash]

I follow Mikaela and she confided on her anxiety issues and let me tell you, I've seen this type of person in real work life situations and this is actually real hard. I had this colleagues with unattainable objectives and real low self-esteem and they burn out so fast? Especially if it's their dream job, they stress themselves to the point of losing hair, sleep, friends, even for low stake positions. Can't imagine to young influencers (she's 23), not fully formed and in search of validation through their work 😢

[@Blank-hh4qj]

@@pashatash okay? So maybe young ppl should get normal jobs and not just post videos if it’s so stressful

[@seaweedaf]

@@pashatash so, what ur saying is influencing isn't for everyone. or, alternatively, ✨️therapy✨️ it's not as scary as the stigma

[@Heihachi_Joestar]

I like the videos Ken makes with Felix. They should also colaborate with Pewdiepie

[@Scorpia__]

Really milking that joke for likes huh

[@TheJessicahammerly]

😂

[@jodyknight]

@@Scorpia__ yup it would seem so

[@Nathan-dt2tu]

@Kavetion Everybody's mom is better than you.

[@bree._.]

@@Scorpia__ I mean isn’t that kinda the point

[@elinapetrova9677]

I think most of the backlash of the influencer job is because it's not a job that's necessarily valuable. It surely is hard to work such a fast-paced and demanding job but knowing most influencers don't create value the same way engineers, teachers, and other traditional jobs do - that's why people bash on them imo.

[@TCAPChrisHandsome]

I worked for a dry ice factory. 12 hour shifts. I worked at a chicken processing plant in a freezer on a 10 hour a day shift. I worked building store displays, spending months at a time in some random part of the country, unable to see my family and working everyday. But sure, 3-4 hours of filming and alleged 5 hours of business meetings is absolutely too much. Nothing compares to the misery of that. The sad part is I barely scraped by financially with the jobs I've had, but this woman is definitely making more money in a day than I made in most months.

[@kharismamessam]

I'm sure her job is hard. But it really sounds like she's making it 10x harder for herself. Also ctk, your editor is adorable.

[@fairlyenjoyable]

Absolutely! I don't know anyone who 100% LOVES their job... You have to change your mindset and get that bread!

[@rocstar3000]

@@fairlyenjoyable "Work with what you love, and you won't love it anymore"

[@kashinimeyo]

Or she’s lying, which I’m sure she is. She’s fabricating garbage off the top of her head because just thinking two seconds about being in daily meetings for 4 hours is absolutely ludicrous. Also, who is she in meetings with every day? She never fleshes out these “examples” are. She probably prattled off her hardest day and pretends that’s her daily routine, when it absolutely isn’t.

[@minecrafter17639]

@@kashinimeyo or it's "hard" for her because nobody wants to watch her and she has no idea for content besides opening items so she says it's "hard" because she can't use her brain enough to think of something else to maintain/boost her sub count

[@esmin2400]

@@kashinimeyoOr maybe you’re entirely wrong. This woman got an absolute BARRAGE of hatred for this video. She used to be poor, working multiple ‘normal’ jobs and has huge struggles with mental health and her self-image. She was commenting on how sick she was of being called all manner of names online as well as talking about the stresses of being an influencer. She knows what it’s like to be poor and to work ‘normal’ jobs, she’s more than entitled to talk about her current ‘job’ being stressful. People are so quick to jump on the hate train without thinking for a second about how impactful their words are. This is the shit that drives people to suicide.

[@jttdiana]

Mary, we appreciate you very much. Love the vibes between Felix and Ken too, it's impossible to find that chill dad energy on KZbin. Keep it up y'all!

[@chrisbasenberg7577]

Mary is the queen we don’t deserve *chris’s girlfriend*

[@michaelquintero2315]

12:45 Kens wife steals the show

[@DestatiDiaboli]

Her "meetings" are longer than our meetings in the movie industry lmao

[@emilybell2703]

I wasn’t even mad at the fact that she said her job is hard. Yes any job is gonna have hard days and youre gonna feel tired, which is understandable kinda haha relatable. However, it was when she said to “just try to be an influencer” like it’s THE hardest job in the world. Harder than the military, contract work, any heavy duty job etc. thats what ticked me off.

[@pennyinheaven]

I think her point is that people don't know what goes behind the camera, outside the videos that people see. People assume they just turn the camera on, talk for 3 mins and boom, instant money and they have the whole day to drink wine and relax. Thus comments like "try working from 9-5" come about but they don't really know anything.

[@emilybell2703]

@@pennyinheaven exactly, its why i dont blame her for complaining. A job is a job but at the same time she should understand that people who watch her are probably working their ass off 9-5 for much less than what she does.

[@pennyinheaven]

@@emilybell2703 Yeah people work 9-5 and earn less but they would also have more job security than she does. And being paid for the amount she's getting didn't happen overnight, nor can she relax just because she's receiving tons.

[@barrothontherocks3325]

that line of thinking is garbage in the first place, even if you were going to "step in the shoes of" any job no matter what it is doing it for a day or even a week isn't going to accumulate any of the stress. literally running a mile in someone else's shoes might be kinda uncomfortable once but if you did it for months/years then you'd have some absolutely destroyed feet and a messed up back

[@haileypaletta2418]

couldn’t have said it better myself

[@jacobstewart2848]

Those “meetings” are probably just her and her friends in a discord call talking trash about another content creator 😂

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

or a few of them are actual meetings are with brands but I doubt she has meetings every day for 5 hours. if so she needs to pick her deals not just take every brand deals that emails her

[@pennyinheaven]

Ooofff. It's obvious your idea of the makeup community is from 2 years ago, in YT even. It's 2022, the age of Tiktok. Makeup influencers earn tons of money from those meetings with brands.

[@ashvegas832]

She actually works and collabs with big makeup brands . Something I'm sure you could never do. Incel

[@SerenityDreaming]

💯

[@SerenityDreaming]

@@pennyinheaven for 5 hours. Per day. Riiiiiiight.

[@yaj1206]

i love when these two collab, Pewds is like chaotic good and Ken's just straight up chaotic evil lol

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

Finally sb acknowledging the hard work I have to do daily: open youtube, pick a video, watch a video, sometimes even like..and on rare occasions I put in extra hours and even comment. Ken acknowledging the true heroes of this society, the consumers.

[@aqilahsdead]

Finally, the real content creators that's been in the game for years telling people that its NOT HARD to be a content creator. Compared to what you earn with what you do, its easier than a job you do w minimal salary. A lot of 'influencers' always complains about how hard it is, just screams spoiled and entitled.

[@pennyinheaven]

It's different when they straight up complain vs people assuming and dismissing your work or efforts, especially when they have no idea what shit happens behind the camera. Especially when you don't have an idea about the process that goes on in making one video, apart from the editing process.

[@roguerangerroger]

I agree with both of you

[@barrothontherocks3325]

@@pennyinheaven when your job is to be an entertainer complaining to your audience is pretty much the same as whining to your 9-5 boss about how easy they have it so you should get a raise and more breaks. i really don't think that would go over well there so why do it here

[@sunny100294]

I think it's Hard to get there and only a few lucky ones truly do. Just like Being an actor or a professional Athlete

[@ggundercover3681]

@@pennyinheaven this. I can see both sides. I have a 9-5. shit is hard. but at the same time it's also not, at least let's compare an office job to construction. like I don't like the other extreme op is doing of invalidating her. every type of work is still work. 100% know they would complain. it's life. someone will always have it worse. and different work has different problems. same with circumstances. I don't like how ppl invalidate this, even pews and ken. like even when influencers or say privileged ppl acknowledge that they are privileged, they still get shit for doing something human, complain about valid things. you're like the only other person I've seen actually not immediately be negative to the privileged side and understand the actual issue, invalidation of efforts.

[@autolicious]

I think being an influencer can be an incredibly difficult job not because of the "work" but because of the parasocial relationships. Some crazy shit happens to influencers because of their fans. I know I wouldn't want strangers showing up on my doorstep, or have stalkers going through my trash or (as we've seen happen) showing up at an event with a gun. Not a job I would ever want.

[@Saintballer420]

I worked for a KZbinr for 4 months, they complained about not getting videos out fast enough, went on 3 holidays and made me redundant 2 days into my first two days of my week holiday I had booked for over a month 💀 don’t do it people

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

I'd say don't go for someone with a shitty personality or that goes against your gut feelings. Red flags and such. Which could cover a lot but yeah. Don't prepare to devote all your time to them.

[@Otsena]

@@tropicalvikingcreations Agreed. You could score gold like finding someone with the same moral values as Markiplier or Jacksepticeye. Those guys aren't the only ones that exist in this world, there are many people like em (maybe not rich as them, but definitely the same personality). Don't let others experiences discourage you from your own experiences because it always differs.

[@Prenda_]

Hope you found lovely job for yourself m8

[@sierrastrang3424]

I gotta say, I can't stop looking at Kens shirt??? The colors and patterns are pretty cool looking and now I want one

[@incineradma]

If she’s surprised by how much work her job is, it sounds like she isn’t used to doing a whole lot. I remember when I first started working a mentally intensive job I couldn’t believe how much time and effort I had to put into it but nowadays I feel proud of my work rather than exhausted by it.

[@faziefyzul1831]

Hopefully, I can get to the point of being driven and motivated. I'm constantly exhausted and have low energy, and other factors but trying to manage overall health and wellbeing. The previous job was a good overall experience , and it sucked I have been unwell a couple of times and let go in the end during. I hope I can find something else soon.

[@animeartist888]

@@faziefyzul1831 I think a lot of the ability to be proud is in A)actually still having time off, i.e. not working 80 hour weeks or some such and B)getting treated like your work is worthwhile through pay, benefits, bonuses, employee of the month kind of recognition, etc

[@munkeykung8971]

How can someone complain about a job where u decide the hours, the things you do and (if successful) make more money in a year than most people make in their lives? I'd take that job in a heartbeat.

[@fallenbee]

I mean there are certain things about it that are valid to complain about, but everything she's complaining about are things she controls lmao. If she doesn't want to get up at 6 am, she doesn't have to. If she doesn't like her current upload schedule, she can change that.

[@septicember]

owning your own business isn't "easy", regardless of how much money you make, what hours you work, and what things you do. It's okay if the job you love is tiring and exhausting - idk why people think "loving your job" means "your job is so enjoyable it's not even tiring". That is not how real life works. And choosing your own hours, while it is often a bonus, can also lead some people to over-working themselves because they feel like they should be working ALL the time - See: Markiplier and Jacksepticeye, who both went through that exact issue and even talked about it on their channels. Work is work, whether you love your job or not. idk why this is even a debate or "hot take". Have we not seen enough of YTers talking about how they've overworked themselves to the bone and have to go on a mental health hiatus for six months? Work is work and work is tiring and being your own boss does not change that unless you've had the time and experience to know how best to manage your time and business and production without destroying yourself. First-time self-employed folks have a steep fuckin' learning curve that they often embark on alone. One more time: work. is. work.

[@lexiwexiwoo]

Lol that's just reflecting on her inability to say no. She's working with collabs & sponsors, brand deals, etc and I understand there's expectations but she's still the final word. If she's doing all these deals because she wants that money, then yeah. You're going to put in the hours. If she was better negotiating for deals, saying no instead of digging into your personal time, and allowing herself to shut it off. Also it's not like she is doing this 365 days a year. She's going through bursts.

[@pennyinheaven]

She's a known name, I think, in the community and I think her main income is from these brand deals. Not sure how short video platforms are monetized like YT or Twitch but she needs to hustle. Makeup is fast paced and you get paid mostly from brands, not exactly views. So yeah its not a walk in the park.

[@moozeypoozey6258]

@@lexiwexiwoo That's why she needs to work it out herself. Pewds and Ken had years to figure this shit out. She hasn't.

[@cookiie92]

I love how Felix is trying so hard to be sincere and thank us and then Ken is sitting all over it. Lmfao 🤣😂🤣

[@adriadhikary2832]

A random influencer : MY Job is hard 2 gods of KZbin : You can literally manage your work and make it easy

[@Wandervenn]

That last clip hit so hard. I've been living under the poverty line since recovering from cancer. My boss, for reasons nobody understands, dropped me from 40 hours to 8. I couldnt pay rent, my electricity went out and i got chastized for not answering the phone (like bitch pay me so I can pay bills). I had to survive on handouts for food. Got a second job, nearly drove myself into the ground and was still barely making it through. My friend loses her grandma who she admitted she didnt have much of a relationship with, and asked me to promote her gofundme. ... Like what? I lived on two bags of doritos this week and whatever I could steal from the kitchen at work and you want me to help you ask for money because you took two unpaid bereavement days from work?

[@fairlyenjoyable]

I'm so sorry you have/had to go through that. That is a LOT to deal with! I sincerely hope that easier times come to you very soon. ♥

[@dannycrolley9628]

It’s rough out here at this point me and you and millions of others are just surviving. I love you and God loves us more than all of us can ever imagine. Your going to make it with a story to tell. I can’t wait to see how those pastures are truly greener on the other side when we get there but in the meantime your doing amazing. Keep your head up so when we meet we don’t bump heads but make eye contact and dance on streets of gold instead

[@tommymarco]

is sick leave and bereavement leave not paid for in the states ?

[@Wandervenn]

@@tommymarco it depends, and a lot of companies are willing to prey on ignorance. We probably did, but when I asked I was told no and I was too stressed out and sick to push the issue.

[@Vale96.]

@@dannycrolley9628 Of course, the religious fanatic always has to arrive at some point, right? If there was really a god (And if he really loved us, and the christian god obviously doesn't represent that), we wouldn't live a life this shitty and senseless, especially in cases like this person up here.

[@kimono5181]

Felix: complains youtubers complaining about youtube Also Felix: complains youtube algorithms with Ken for 5 straight minutes

[@jasiq99]

I mean...he proved his point hahahahah

[@nikitalaptsevich8891]

Was looking for this comment 😂

[@SwiftyFerret]

I'm a hospice nurse. Everyone says they could never do it, it must be hard. Based on my experience as a nurse it's not. I did take the move to travel nursing because I'll be paid a lot more for my effort. It won't be me getting paid poorly and the system relying on compassion for me to be okay with the pay I get. Everytime I hear people in healthcare say you don't do it for the money I don't really understand because how many healthcare workers you really think will show up for free? We need money just like anyone else. Inflation affects us too.

[@MongoTheMagnificent666]

At least in my experience, when someone says they couldn't do something like hospice care, they mean it would break them down emotionally. Power to you though

[@SwiftyFerret]

@@MongoTheMagnificent666 I did not word it correctly. It is not hard for ME, not everyone. Nearly every job in nursing is hard and will wear you down emotionally. Basically the healthcare system relies on nurses that will work for poor pay and in a poor environment because they care. They are expected to work without breaks and over the time they are supposed to leave. Your bonus is a pat on the back, the healthcare heros sign, and a pizza party. Which leads to compassion fatigue or burnout. The reason a lot of nurses take travel jobs to have more freedom, more pay, and better benefits. Maybe this is a bit more organized. I'm usually a better writer I swear. lol

[@shaylatorch]

I was a CNA at a nursing home & I definitely didn't do it for the money. After taking care of both my husband & my Mother before they passed, I felt like it was my"calling" ! Unfortunately they don't want compassionate or empathetic people in the field, so I no longer do it. 😥

[@lugos2656]

I love that PewDiePie doesn’t like talking about money at all. He looked so uncomfortable when toast was talking about how much he makes.

[@fatmonkey17]

I love how Felix always has a new tangent to tell whenever his hotdog stand job comes into context lol

[@iheartdates]

I have a feeling that the first influencer’s “5 hour meetings” are actually 5 meetings that are 30 minutes each + 30 minutes of doing whatever she wants in between. Also, Felix singing the “Duck Tales” theme song in Swedish is everything. ☺️

[@jenniferdaulby5519]

or lunch "meetings"

[@limeentertain1066]

Still 5 meetings a day is too much...You can have productive meetings for the first 2, the last 3 won't be as productive, it's a waste of time...

[@iheartdates]

@@limeentertain1066 I totally agree. I work in digital marketing and firmly believe most meetings can be emails. But she’s definitely exaggerating and making things out to be “harder” than they are because she’s on the defensive.

[@Jo-jn3dc]

I just worked a rave from 6pm to 5:30am. I was bartending til 2am and no break. That is 11 hours nonstop with a bunch of grown ass adults who are high on various substances acting like toddlers. I had a line at the beginning up until they decided cutting was the way they were gonna do it. That causes conflict so I’m left having to act like I’m their teacher saying shit like “Am I going to have to call security?” with a look of disappointment. Act like a toddler, get treated like one. Let me tell you that the average customer service employee works harder that a lot of influencers have in their entire life. That’s not to say there are challenges to both but I find it humours that people like this think that they somehow are working so much harder than everyone else when they aren’t. Like my job is nothing compared to a doctor or nurse who is literally handling peoples lives.

[@clownsushi]

Right like you can say your job is hard and talk about the hardships you deal with but to be all high and mighty that your job is harder than others, especially when you make much more than others is just inconsiderate and screams self consciousness about that fact that she knows her job actually isn't harder

[@mattiaskeinnn3317]

When i was younger i was homeless for a couple of months, influensers complaining about how hard their life is literally pisses me off. They dont know wtf its like going through real issues. Go lay down in your king size bed and complain some more please.

[@clownsushi]

People can complain about their issues, yeah it sucks when you have it worse but someone out there everywhere have it worse and to let it get under your skin is just taking up mental space that you could have for something else. Easier said than done I know but when I was working 7 days a week I wasn't getting pissed at other people complaining about their easier jobs

[@jacobnorman1andonly]

"Everyone can be made fun of, NO RULES!" -Pewdiepie

[@olfan92]

She's a millionaire and yet she doesnt have a paid editor? makes no sense.

[@jawaela]

I can see someone being particular about editing and wanting to do it themselves

[@Benji-jj2bg]

I doubt she's a millionaire. Highly doubt.

[@MoonshinerEmily]

I believe the video was from a while ago, probably when she wasn't making enough to have editors.

[@Thenoobestgirl]

@@jawaela then she shouldn't complain about having to spend all that time editing if she decides to do it herself instead of doing the smart thing and giving it to an editor...

[@jawaela]

@@Thenoobestgirl I saw it as explaining rather than complaining

[@idontcare-sf1vb]

“She goes from the you know no makeup thing yk to looking like that… so that must take a lot of time” 😂OOF

[@guisell_h5690]

I think she films for that long because as someone who doesn’t make up, it takes me literally three hours to get ready so I can only imagine how long it takes her when she does super glamorous looks

[@HollyClementine]

As someone who doesn’t regularly do makeup? Or does ? Lol didn’t understand your comment

[@lauramiller1793]

The type of makeup she does can take anywhere from 2 to 4 hours so she probably really does spend a lot of time on her content.

[@katk7505]

Yeah it's probably because she's filming makeup content but if she plans it out she could make multiple videos off of one look, especially since she does mostly short form content. Every step of her makeup routine could be a different video with how she does videos.

[@slendyman1386]

Pewds and Ken are like such peaceful men with no dramas. But they just love to watch drama for fun.

[@coughcough5864]

Yea peaceful man with no drama. *T-Series war flashbacks*

[@joeyno137]

Bridge flashbacks WSJ

[@slendyman1386]

@@coughcough5864 yeah well it was all just jokes. He didn't care about that. It's all fun and games.

[@theshadowphilosopher9901]

@@slendyman1386 yes, no drama at all Ww2 flashback to "pdp csgo bridge"

[@theshadowphilosopher9901]

They both have tons of drama lol, they just dont give a holy F about what people gotta say about their private lives

[@mariamozqueda6652]

“ mary is my primary demographic “ - ken. i’m glad you finally stated what we knew all along

[@lizzyrae7444]

I’m a nurse and this week alone have worked 2 16 hour shifts along with my regular schedule. I would LOVE to see her do it. On average I have about 15-21 patients to pass meds for, put in orders, assess, and type of cares that need to be done.

[@lilyhelms2825]

Love the way they both started rubbing their beards simultaneously at 3:40 😂😂

[@BecxyBoo]

I work as a Bakery Assistant and I have to stand for 8 hours a day. I'm not saying being an influencer is easy but at least you get to sit down and don't have to deal with heavy lifting.

[@icarusdaedalus6247]

Same bruh

[@Pooky1991]

Can say the same as a long-term care cna who saw no hazard pay, bonuses, or anything during covid, got paid minimum wage, and have to deal with violent people on a daily basis

[@toxicfiend]

I work with construction and industry service, so i barely get to sit and have to do heavy lifting and smash walls etc all day 😄 I would like people like her to try out my job for a week 😂 (im away from home for about 11hrs a day)

[@carochan86]

Yup . I'm a Pastry Cook. I don't miss frozen every other day at all. Especially right when you get in the door.

[@beanybabyrabie]

Yes it’s so hard for her to turn on a camera, talk to it while putting on makeup she would be putting on anyways mind you that is most likely the NEWEST and most interesting and high end make up sent to her for FREE and then she presses send to send the footage to someone for editing and has meetings online :( what a hard life LMAO

[@JasperCatProductions]

Nurse, I think being a nurse would be the worst. They work so hard dealing with sick people. The hours they work….no way.

[@kaitlinconnors7413]

I’m a nurse. It is definitely a hard job. However there are many things to do with nursing for example my career, I have done many different things. I started as a hospital nurse then I went to case management then I was doing Covid tracing. Now I’m still working as a RN but as a visiting nursing (the one who goes to people’s homes). It is my dream job. I cannot image ever working in another field of nursing. So even hard job can be made better by working in the right department so to speak.

[@nexsjus]

Let me tell you, nursing is a breeze compared to shitty jobs like telemarketing and sales person, that shit can destroy souls 😅

[@undeadkennedy]

You guys are so candid it’s extremely refreshing

[@viddykhaos2896]

I think we can measure people's jobs on three scales: value of the person, socioeconomic value, and realized financial value. Comparing a nurse and a TikTok influencer, both of them are of equal value in terms of their actual lives. Both lives are indeed sacred. Socioeconomically, a nurse provides larger amounts of utility to the society than an influencer. However, the latter has higher (by a large margin) realized financial value, since they earn more.

[@evilkamatis542]

a Ken and Felix video always feels like cracking up a joke with your 2 dads and ending up listening to them for an hour about life lesson.

[@ashc5047]

Geez how young are you?!

[@kay19129]

They're both dads imo (Felix being a dog dad) so it fits

[@djricky09]

@@ashc5047 my thoughts exactly...

[@Goldy01]

@@ashc5047 actual 9yo lmao

[@shannonsullivan4858]

I have to say, Ken's editor is really talented.

[@allisonkoester]

Scott is awesome and he also streams on twitch, he’s currently making a psx game

[@RaverOperatorGeeza]

True dat!

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

I was wondering about him the other day, is it the same guy he always used to shout out? I remember videos with Ken and Dane and after saying sub to BuffPro he'd shout out his editor and say go follow him. Then one day he just stopped. Tbh I assumed he got a new editor who doesn't do social media, but I feel like he was called Scott? 🤷‍♂️

[@thesadslav419]

@@chilli-iceolive-abode2447 his editor is still the red head with a glorious beard named scott

[@syrenasketches6902]

All those fart sound effects tho...

[@Wolfdorf]

I'm a project manager and I don't get as many meetings as her lol

[@ryanhauer8093]

I enjoy the banter and just talking between you too, all you need is a small topic that you look at for 6 mins and spend another 15 just talking I love it lmao

[@Guitargoddess843]

Genuinely happy for Ken that I can watch his videos to give him money so he can have a job that doesn't kill his soul and he has lots of time to be there for his kids ❤️

[@CapricornMegan]

I get that all jobs can be hard, but there are tougher jobs than being an influencer.

[@samalvarez8776]

Well yeah. There are also jobs tougher than being a garbage man, or a construction worker, or pipe cleaner. I mean there will always be a job that's "harder" and can actually murder you.

[@patrickmaloney3091]

Different stresses a lot of influencers starting out have to do their own editing which is time consuming also the depression of having hundreds of oeople even if their the minority constantly dogging on you and also the being told its not a real job when you work hard and put time and effort into it

[@zahn4side]

Being an influencer is a very hard job for your mental health

[@caodesignworks2407]

restaurant dishwasher is a harder job than being an influencer

[@samalvarez8776]

@@caodesignworks2407 honestly I would hate to be an influencer, so the job would be really hard to me.

[@thebiggestofhearts]

“people run themselves into the ground doing the job” the editor: 😃👋🏼

[@supersucks]

I love how nuanced their conversations are. This is great

[@neneninetails5803]

My Favorite thing about these collabs is that you can see the real friendship between these two. It’s not a clout based friendship but a really true nice one.

[@mikki.m3y539]

Kens just missing the didgeridoo and he will assume his final Aussie form

[@trevorhensley3185]

Give him time. Next time we see him, he'll be a proper Aussie.

[@neodragon1979]

10,000 didgeridoos!!!!

[@laurengugucachoo6213]

Didgeridoo and a cork hat, beauty mate!

[@trevorhensley3185]

@@laurengugucachoo6213 He'll be as mad as a cut snake.

[@dtrainbcca]

Ken got a 64 track shirt

[@LexNonARegeEstViolanda]

Ken: "What are the actual hard parts of our job?" 1. Burnout, which I noticed is quite common for content creators who have been at it for years 2. Coming up with ideas that will actually click 3. Constantly worrying about whether you'll earn enough with your current engagements 4. Hate comments 5. Time consuming (if the content creator can't afford an editor, they really have to edit on their own)

[@mrhandexists20]

influencing is certainly not easy. But its not THAT hard either. Every job has its own problems, surprisingly even a lotta those tiktok kids who we love to hate on are destroyed by their schedules set up by their managers for the entire year. Shit like that makes me appreciate normal life at times tbh. But then i see th emoney and im like NNAAAAHHHH make me an influencer.

[@quietusplus1221]

I think Felix has grown up so quickly, but also matured way more quickly than most people. His opinions are very grounded nowadays I think. Sidenote: I love these editor inserts XD HI!

[@tommymarco]

sidenote: ken looking hella immature these days compared to felix

[@lunix3259]

He's 30 right? He knows a lot about social media and the internet more than a lot of influencers who've decided to jump on this wagon recently

[@tommymarco]

@@lunix3259 31 or 32 . he started at a good age, where he was smart enough to take note. i can't stand the anyone new , they are just bad

[@kashinimeyo]

Ummm he’s in his 30s…. He’s actually slightly less mature than he should be 🙄

[@tommymarco]

@@kashinimeyo ahh the tw bot has entered the chat

[@hjc9114]

I do freelance work online (which is quite low paid) and because my parents don't understand it, they always ask me when I'm going to get a real job. It was nice to hear Ken say that if you get paid for it then it's a job

[@daphnesmanifestationsofthe6451]

That ending was everything

[@zaraandrews600]

The way they were talking about making videos felt like they were perfectly describing my job. I am an apprentice and I keep overworking myself at the moment in the hopes of getting a permanent job at the end no matter how unlikely it is to happen.

[@albuquerquehotspot7835]

When Ken says the girls last name and PewDiePie goes, "heyyyyy" and it totally goes over kens head lol

[@Ladyscarface]

Like most things 🤣

[@SamanthaNStuff]

I chuckled at pewds joke and questioned if ken missed it or purposefully ignored it....but it was a good one

[@samfisher2923]

Watching Ken and Pewds both stroke their beards while going on a tangent😂

[@CaseyAvalon]

I know makes me want a beard lol

[@falalalala385]

Dad vibes

[@gaia7240]

You guys made me laugh for the first time today, thank you 😂 very nice video

[@Miss_Distress]

Creative work does take it out of you, even if people don't realise it. I was a writer and eventually burned out just because I went so hard at it. However, it was an amazing experience being able to earn money from something I loved to do. And you are 100% correct in that you make your own rules and your own hours!

[@allykat3331]

I love her makeup videos but I cant believe she is acting like this isn't a dream job for most of us She does have a lot of brand deals for makeup and gets sent free stuff every day the fact that she complains about her job is crazy

[@pennyinheaven]

Bruh, she also needs to put out a review for them and build her name so brands pay her. That's the thing. You think it's a dream, a happy one but once you're there, you'd probably say the same thing. She's not the first one to do this and it's not limited to the beauty community. There's just a lot of things we don't know behind the camera.

[@rebeccas8674]

She made the video like a year ago

[@allykat3331]

I dont want that job lol just I know a lot of people would think that is a dream job to have but to complain about making a lot of money reviewing products is not hard like most jobs and people who work in the sun all day dont make the kind of money some KZbinrs make it's a privilege a lot of KZbinrs say they are super lucky to be able to do that and its not hard to do what they do so why complain about it

[@pennyinheaven]

@@allykat3331 Yeah reviewing stuff at the surface of it is easy but that's really all you know. You don't know what they have in their personal lives, you don't know how many brands she has to juggle around or the demands she has to put up with. I assume she's not that big yet to just simply say no to them. Her work is yes not that hard compared to a construction worker but every one can complain but no one should diminish her work just because you "think" it's THAT easy.

[@pennyinheaven]

Job security and the grind. Yes they make a lot but it took time and a whole lot of content to get there and they have to keep doing it otherwise all that money can disappear in just a snap.

[@Piou0102]

What they said about disconnecting from your job and deciding how hard you want to work is very real for all self-employed people out there, even outside of the entertainment field. It's very difficult to find a balance at first, and it's not for everyone.

[@Starhunter1975]

That was such a great laugh. Thanks Ken and Felix for the video.

[@Yue_mariin00]

I love how at the end it's pretty much just two friends hanging out with each other

[@MasterArrow]

I’ve done 12 hour shift on a factory floor for years. Never going to accept that content creation is significantly difficult compared to “real” jobs. The hardest part of content creation is how hard it is to actually succeed, but that’s mostly luck and consistency, with only the latter controllable.

[@devisavage2570]

Quite literally

[@PopeDope69-420]

These two have some of the best chemistry on KZbin. Love their collabs

[@muffet5076]

Ken I'm glad ur in a better place now u deserve it I watch ur videos and will continue to do so because ur awesome

[@alexis3605]

Insane how they share exactly the mental stress ive been living from having a graphic design account on IG that struggles lately. Props to these legends✌️

[@shihsgiggles1948]

I wish Ken and Felix would do a podcast on their hot takes. Especially on petty situations lol. I’d straight up listen to that

[@medusacrow7486]

I love it when Felix and Ken do videos. they don't just talk (briefly) about the video content, but they talk to each other as if they are in the same room as best friends. love you guys 💓 True bromance. 💖💖

[@happysqWid]

Whenever someone tells me how hard their job is, I only hear one thing: "I've never worked a real job in my life" because the people who have ACTUALLY hard jobs never complain about shit. Hotel housekeepers, Nurses, construction workers, etc, keep their head down and bust their asses.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

Nah, we complain too. But usually for the 10 mins before we fall asleep

[@Donkeh245]

Everyone thinks their own job is hard, but really being an influencer is so much easier than a lot of jobs out there, and that’s why I think lots of people would like to be an influencer because it’s a job where you’re your own boss

[@jacobschlichtemeier5768]

Just wanna say I appreciate the hell of you guys after all these years. Thank you for making content. When I was in foster care you were there to make me laugh and distract me & now that I’m adopted and my new dad has cancer you’re there again, my family members in Florida with the hurricane right now, my stress at work. You guys do an amazing service being a joyful distraction from all the terrible things happening in peoples lives. 🙏♥️

[@justyouraveragegamerx1495]

Jesus christ man…I’m so sorry to hear that about your Dad. Hope he gets better through this.

[@scrdart]

I have a clothing brand. The hardest part isn't the art, it's marketing. The hardest part of attempting to make an online business (influencer or not) is dealing with putting yourself out there and not gaining the attention. Especially when other people who do it make it look easy. It's not hard because of the time. It's not hard because I love the art I do. It's hard mentally sometimes. But it's only hard right now because I'm struggling to market. Once you gain a following, what's the issue?

[@hilarykoh]

this is SO TRUE and it’s hard to continuing loving and finding value in my work when it doesn’t sell even if it’s just because I don’t have a good amount of customers

[@joesr31]

To maintain the following, some say its harder to maintain than to gain

[@scrappyanimations4096]

Just start an OnlyFans

[@Tatchiaz]

I feel like youtubers that sit in a group and complain about youtube reminds me a lot of just normal employees complaining about their workplace. I guess its universal :D

[@xanderwilmeth9509]

Felix going “Everyone can be made fun of. No rules” My brain playing back to Felix just screaming at villagers on Minecraft with Sean going “Peasants!… POOR.” 😂