Milwaukee M18 Forge 6.0 vs High Output 6.0 Battery | Milwaukee Most Powerful M18 Battery!

[@TeamDIYNow]

Milwaukee 48-11-1865 M18 REDLITHIUM HIGH OUTPUT XC 6 Ah: amzn.to/46aVk00 Milwaukee M18 48-11-1861 REDLITHIUM FORGE 6.0 Ah Battery Pack: www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-18V-Lithium-Ion-REDLITHIUM-FORGE-6-0-Ah-Battery-Pack-48-11-1861/325311995 Milwaukee 48-11-1880 M18 REDLITHIUM HIGH OUTPUT 18v 8.0 Ah: amzn.to/3PJZB4B Milwaukee M18 Battery Starter Kit Includes (2) XC5.0 Batteries and Charger: amzn.to/4cACXFA

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Good stuff, keep it up

[@TeamDIYNow]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@ericnichols9275]

I hope Milwaukee comes out with a FORGE Battery for the M12 LINE and make it 2.5 AMP

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea I agree it would be nice to also have a M12 version. Im guessing Milwaukee will introduce one at some point as they did the same thing with the high output where the M18 was first followed by the M12.

[@mysticjedi6730]

I am using high output 6.0 for multi tool caulking removal all day as windows caulking removal and installer. Just purchased Two more high output 6.0 on Amazon for 160 American for the pair. Cheaper than one forge. The price for forge a keep seeing 279.99 canadian. Cheaper anerican for the forge. At this time I don't think it's worth it for forge unless you can find it for cheap.. Your going to Want a few and some always on the charger anyways.. depending on your needs you may want to avoid a forge for now.. Don't waste money and use good judhement..

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@mysticjedi6730 Yea $280 is getting up there for a 6ah battery. Here in the US, the M18 Forge is $199 and are in various kits for even less depending on the tool.

[@mysticjedi6730]

@@TeamDIYNow that what i see. 199.99 american, 279.99 canadian. i just picked up a two pack of high output 6.0 for 160 american. my suggestion is consider both, look around. for my needs running m18 fuel multi tool all day switching out the high output 6.0 works fine. and i can keep some on the charger. do i want to get a forge? yes. i was running makita and dewalt corded for a long time. it sure is nice to move to a cordless jobsite.. i am glad these battery technology came out. i like how they give you full power all the way through then just cut out.. will be on the lookout for forge deals for sure.

[@aaronolsen8787]

​@@mysticjedi6730Just got a forge for $229 CAD from Edmonton Fasteners Black Friday sale. I'm not saying it's a fantastic deal but it's the best one I've seen so far and thought I'd try it out. $248 CAD is the best price I've seen for the m18 12.0 and that's what it is there as well.

[@cliffordmontana4562]

I have a ton of 6.0 high outputs. Home Depot ran online deals for four 6.0s for $329. I got 12 of them. They also had three 12.0 high outputs for $399. I got six of those also.

[@TeamDIYNow]

Wow that's a good deal! The HO 6.0 has been solid for me as I use the couple I have regularly with my string trimmer and circular saw.

[@cliffordmontana4562]

@@TeamDIYNow Agreed, they are good batteries. I check Home Depot’s “Special Buys of the day” every single day. The deals they have are insane. They had the M12 grease gun and a $50 battery for $100 just a few days ago. It’s usually $200 plus.

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@cliffordmontana4562 Yea I have bought a few things over the years via that special buy at HD as well. Maybe I need to check it more regularly like you do as those are some excellent deals. I tell people all the time buy tools when on sale if you think will need in future. If you wait till you need that day you will be paying full price.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@@cliffordmontana4562 Those are some good battery prices. It matches the real m18 batteries on amazon basically. Thats where i buy my batteries now. You just gotta make sure you buy the real ones. Needs to be in the same packaging as the ones @ home depot. The circuit board need to be tested via the lights on the battery.

[@Snoogleheimer]

Cool! I like your demo style. 👍🏻

[@TeamDIYNow]

Glad you like it. Thanks for watching!

[@donovanhamann932]

Home Depot sold me 6 for $600 for the 6 high outputs as a deal for buying more like 2 years ago. Unfortunately, I just checked, and they are not doing anything similar with the Forge. That's over $1200 to fill a 6 port charger

[@TeamDIYNow]

Thats a good deal for 6 of the HO batteries if you got them for $100 piece a few years ago. After the release of the Forge the 6ah HO is even cheaper as Amazon has for around $90 (amzn.to/3uGEybr). I have saw the Forge in kits already, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar deals with multiple batteries at some point.

[@BillMeaney]

Great video on the forge battery but nice display in the background! 👌🏻 not a Hendrick fan but still a nice set up

[@TeamDIYNow]

Glad you liked the video, and the NASCAR diecast! Been collecting them for years with my son, it's a hobby we both enjoy! Thanks for watching.

[@darrensmith4661]

Thanks for your vid. Have been running the old 4amp/h battery's over the past 10 years. Found them to be the sweet spot of power versus cost over the time period. Now have x4 5 amp/h (past 2 years). Have noticed a big difference going from 4 to 5 amp/h batteries. My retired father inherited most of the 4 amp/h battery's even though I still run a couple. As I am looking to purchase high power devices (Chainsaw/Hammer drill Vac system etc) I know I has to start looking at the batteries/capacities/run times etc, hence why watching this vid. See that there has been huge changes in the tech of the batteries over the past 3-4 years....But so has the cost increased, incredibly. Battery pricing here in Melbourne Aussie (Sydney tools), M18 standard 4amp/h $178.20, 5 amp/h $218.00, High output 6 amp/h $227.70, 8amp/h $278.30, 12amp/h $299, Forge 6amp/h $279.00, 8amp/h $349.00, 12 amp/h $399.00. Currently I cannot justify the costs to upgrade to Forge batteries. Am yet to test the high output versus the standard 5amp/h battery's. Will do so when I have purchased a high output skin (Chainsaw or another device). Am curious about other ppl's experience/feedback.

[@TeamDIYNow]

Glad you liked it! The 5ah is still my go to when the HO isn't needed (lights, drills, impact wrenches, etc). Its smaller and has good power for most small jobs. Where I use my HO and Forge are with my outdoor trimmer, blower, chainsaw, and circular saws. With that said, I do agree the prices of the batteries are getting up there. Here in the US they aren't as high where you live, but they still are expensive. If looking to get into the HO lineup, the 6ah HO is the sweet spot for power/price/dependability. The 8ah HO has a lot higher failure rate than the 6ah HO and in my opinion outside of using the 12ah on a miter saw its too big. If you need the power the 12ah produces, then the 6ah Forge is the one I would get as it's the same power and a lot smaller. Typically, here in the US around the holidays there are some good deals and ever since the Forge came out the 6ah HO has been on sale. Im sure here in another month or two Milwaukee will be including the free batteries so hopefully your able to get one for free.

[@bignag8291]

How do the HO 6.0’s compare to the Forge 6.0 in a blower? Will the Forge have a longer runtime or just more power?

[@TeamDIYNow]

When using Milwaukee's single battery blower...the noticeable difference between the HO 6.0 and Forge 6.0 is marginal. The runtime is going to be the same, however the Forge battery will give you 100%-0 full power. Some of Milwaukee's other batteries will have some voltage sag as the battery gets down to about 30% which then produces less power.

[@james2042]

I think the biggest question here, just like the high outputs, is 6ah vs 8ah forge. The 6ah ho had the more reliable and higher output samsung 30t while the 8ah had the higher capacity 40t. If you needed the extra capacity then the 8 but otherwise the 6 was the better battery. Now its the same question for the 6ah pouch cell or 8ah tabless. Considering theyre the same price due to the high price of pouch cells, is the pouch cell premium worth the capacity reduction?

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea that is a good question. I'm not sure if we know yet about the longevity as the Forge is fairly new. Over the last few years, I agree we learned that the 6 HO had a lot less failures than the 8 HO. Because of that I only bought the 6 HO over the years because what I heard about the 8s failing more often.

[@james2042]

@TeamDIYNow pouch cells are notoriously more reliable than cylindrical cells. If the controllers are relatively equal the 6ah should be objectively better and I honestly thought they'd make the 12ah pouches too

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@james2042 Yea that would be nice to see a 12ah and some M12 Forge batteries as well. Will see what happens this year maybe Milwaukee has something in the works.

[@JamesRiick]

Side by side comparison is what showed the forge is best. Was almost going to buy the two pack 5.0 xc on sale but that wouldn’t be future proofing my setup.

[@TeamDIYNow]

Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching.

[@KyaniteBear]

We want 3Ah Forge batteries!!! 🎉

[@TeamDIYNow]

I agree!

[@bubbagump320]

So far both my forge 6.0 and my high output 8.0 do great on the quick lock weed whacker but the blower seems to eat both up pretty fast....I guess the forge is a little longer lasting maybe

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea I agree the blowers do tend to drain the batteries a little bit quicker.

[@GlennMcKeon-n5s]

Home depot has the XC8.0 batteries ( right now for $140 ea. ($279 for a 2 pack). An XC8.0 for $140 vs. a Forge 6.0 for $199. Now which battery would you go with? Also, if you only have a standard charger or the Rapid Charger (not the new dual bay high speed one) aren't you losing the fast charging benefits as well?

[@TeamDIYNow]

I typically buy all my batteries either on sale or in a kit. Alot of times for just a little more you can get a tool you might need plus the batteries making the overall cost of the battery less. I'm always looking for a sale, so personally not unless you're looking for max output the HO batteries are a good option as well. Here is a link to the HO6.0 for roughly $90 (amzn.to/3TlQwS0) ...just be careful on who the sold by is. I personally have bought from the seller listed as JBTools and shipped by Amazon. In regard to the charger, you are correct you won't get the added benefit of the fast charge time unless you have the supercharger. The standard chargers are ok, and the supercharger is still a little pricey in my opinion. Personally, the rapid charger is my favorite and the one I have used for many years. Hope this helps.

[@Zpiet820]

​@TeamDIYNow seems JBTools is more trustworthy than other random sellers. Did you receive items from them in original packages? Were they brand new? I once bought a pump sprayer from JBTools with excellent price but the package was heavily damaged, and the sprayer has signs of use. Still not sure if I should give another try.

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@Zpiet820 Yes I ordered a Dewalt Powerstack 1.7 battery last year and a few months ago an OTC J tool for locking a steering wheel. Both in the factory sealed package. Just make sure the listing you buy is the new one as they also sell used stuff as well. Not saying that is what happened on yours but there could have been mix up when they sent if you did buy the new. Worst case scenario, since most of their stuff is shipped by Amazon if it shows up opened just send it back.

[@jeffmallo2755]

You should have done it vs the M18 12.o as they say it has the power and length of use of the 12.0

[@TeamDIYNow]

Unfortunately, I don't have a 12.0 battery otherwise I would have included in the demo.

[@JeremyBrightenburg]

It does not have the length of use just power

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Ya it literally states half the length of use via the amp hour rating clearly stated on the side of the battery. 6ah = 6 amp hours. Meaning the cell will supply its 18v @ 1amp for 6 hours 12ah = 12 amp hours. Meaning it will supply its 18v @ 1amp for 12 hours

[@Lumpia_In_Texas]

two HO 6.0 and a charger is $160 in amazon. thats a good deal!

[@TeamDIYNow]

Agreed!

[@MarkK01]

I live in Canada so tools and batteries are a lot more expensive. I was able to snag a couple 6ah High output for $149.99can each. The 6ah Forge batteries are $279.99 can. Batteries are just way to expensive. I am pretty sure Milwaukee makes these batteries dirt cheap. Just like Snap On, you are paying for the name. I have always said to everyone never run aftermarket batteries. Now if there was a reliable battery made to Milwaukee specs that might change. But as it stands there is no Milwaukee aftermarket battery on the market that is reliable in my opinion.

[@TeamDIYNow]

100% agree I only use genuine batteries as well even tho the price is getting up there for just a battery. I try to only buy tools and batteries when on sale especially when free batteries are included.

[@josec6785]

There’s a new deal 3 xc5.0 or 2 6.0 HO m18 batteries not sure if I should take the 2 6.0 or the 3 5.0’s, the 2 6.0 are only 30 bucks more

[@josec6785]

Any thoughts on what I should do would be great

[@TeamDIYNow]

The 5.0's are great all-around batteries for general use applications where you don't need the max power (drills, impacts, shop vac, tire inflator, etc). The HO 6.0 is also a great battery that personally I only use while using a circular saw, sawzall, and string trimmer. I recently did a circular saw video comparing the 5.0, HO 6.0, and Forge battery to give you an idea of the power difference on a more demanding application: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6HQoHWAbraJZqc. I would say, if you don't need the extra power 3 batteries are better than 2. With that said, you cant go wrong with either as the HO 6.0 has its time and place. Hope this helps.

[@josec6785]

@@TeamDIYNowyes sir thank you

[@keysautorepair6038]

Do Milwaukee battery’s lights stay on when they are charging?

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yes while charging the lights on the battery will be on indicating the current battery charge. As it keeps charging you will see the light bars increase.

[@keysautorepair6038]

@@TeamDIYNow Thanks appreciate it bought a few batteries and wasn’t sure if they were working.

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@keysautorepair6038 No problem glad I was able to help.

[@pro-powerwash]

I believe the difference is more drastic with more demanding tools like a saw, grinder....

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea I agree, you do see additional power gains with more demanding tools. I did a few other videos comparing these batteries with M18 circular saws (kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6HQoHWAbraJZqc). My favorite thing with the Forge is the full power all the way till the battery is drained which is what really separates the Forge from the other M18 batteries in my opinion.

[@SpicyRoll-m4r]

Wish there's 3.0 forge more compact for DIYer.

[@TeamDIYNow]

I agree that would be nice. I'm guessing at some point there will be additional battery sizes.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

May not be scientifically possible to get the max amps of that 12ah cell packed into a 3.0 cell. Which is what forge is about to my eye. These batteries are for running chop saws, table saws, shop vacs, lawn mowers, etc. Not impact guns, multi tools, jig saws, or small shop vacs. The diy scene should be fine with high output batteries. Most diy'ers dont need the bigger tools to be battery powered as they have readily available outlets to plug in bigger tools. My main question is whether the 8.0 sits in power group 3 or 4 on Milwaukees chart.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Cool battery. Too expensive for now. Dont buy batteries @ home depot. Amazon 2x 6.0 high output = $160, 2x 8.0 high output= $214, 2x CP3.0 high output = $103

[@TeamDIYNow]

Agreed, Amazon has a few tool distributors selling on there as of late where you can get some good deals!

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@TeamDIYNow I can see this battery making a difference in tools where you want that umph. A skill saw would be my 1st thought. But also a 6" grinder, or a concrete saw. Even a chop saw or table saw if you're cutting 2" maple. I don't have any of those tools battery-powered yet. Though I want a 4 1/2" variable speed with a toggle switch. I would already have it if it wasn't a special order only. I have 2 variable speed Metabo grinders, they are the benchmark for a grinder in my kit. Only time will test that factor. I'm interested in a skill saw, but I have 4. At that point it's more about workflow. Love how I can install 15ga nails in 3 minutes flat with 0 rush.

[@alexn.7527]

Most of those amazon batteries are fake. Not authentic althought they do look real.

[@jeromeharris5197]

Be careful of the counterfeit batteries on Amazon and eBay

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@jeromeharris5197 Mine are authentic. Exactly the same as home depot.

[@OUTILSCLIPSQC]

Nice

[@TeamDIYNow]

Thanks!

[@tannerwest6823]

Nice Die Cast collection

[@TeamDIYNow]

Thank you! I have been collecting them for years.

[@tannerwest6823]

@@TeamDIYNow awesome

[@ProChargedLS2]

M12 Forge when

[@TeamDIYNow]

Thats a good question. The M18 high output was released around 2018 and the M12 high output wasn't released until a few years later. I'm guessing we will see something in the next year or so.

[@ProChargedLS2]

It's gonna be sweet

[@Steve0885]

I bought two Forge batteries for $50 each 🤫

[@TeamDIYNow]

Wow that's a good deal. Hopefully they were genuine batteries as that is the cheapest I have saw a Forge battery. I'm not aware of any counterfeit Forge batteries yet but I wouldn't be surprised to see them at some point just like all the other batteries.

[@Iceking007]

The Forge battery looks like a cheap knockoff though. The styling is plain and feels like a dramatic step backwards.

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea the label does look kind of generic compared to the existing M18 batteries. The battery does work well tho.

[@coreysharp9794]

It's much better than the high output line. Half of the ones I own the side stickers peeled off or even the front cover for the button and lights.

[@TeamDIYNow]

@@coreysharp9794 I have also had issues with that front button where it cracked and peeled off a few of my batteries. I like the button on the Forge a lot better.

[@zoghunter82318]

no battery is worth $180 a pop...

[@TeamDIYNow]

Yea I know what you mean in regard to the cost of not only batteries but tools today (and many other things). With that said, what I do like about this battery is they didn't increase the cost as it's the same price of the HO 6ah it's probably going to replace. I typically buy all my tools in kits or on sale where you can get batteries for less or even free. These Forge batteries are already in kits, so the retail price is really just a gauge of the value in my opinion.

[@Van-Wolff]

Try buying a STIHL 500AS battery. That’ll make these seem like a bargain.