Milwaukee Roads world's Largest Steam Locomotive In The World!!! Tall Tale Or Not Ep7

[@Pensyfan19]

Thank you for giving another great video! I wasnt sure as to whether I should explain whether it was true or false in the same video since I didn't want to spoil it, but the story is in fact *true.* Despite very little info of this story being online, I heard of it through word of mouth from some of my coworkers who worked near the area on a daily basis, as they also had connections with people who worked for the Pennsy. Some other similar little known fun facts is that Sunnyside yard, the yard in Queens that hists all the passenger trains for Penn Station, had a turntable to turn around any steam engines that weren't detatched at Manhattan Transfer in time, and that the Park Avenue Tunnels leading to Grand Central Terminal still have (now unused) overhead wires back from the early NYC electrics in the 1910s, since most electric engines around this time ran on 3rd rail and overhead wires.

[@TrainBandit]

@@Pensyfan19 I kinda figured it might be word of mouth because I looked online and found nothing. I wasn't quite sure how to figure out the answer but to just ask in the video. Wow those are some really cool facts! You must have some pretty cool coworkers! Thank you so much for such a quick response and a little extra info for people to enjoy! 😃👍

[@NicholasSpisak]

Hey ​@TrainBandit I got another good one union pacific not to be outdone by the milewauke roads 2-10-10-10-2 ought to build something bigger than milewaukee's locomotive so they went to back to the drawing board and studied the 4-12-2 more and the faulted the 4-14-4 and they came up with a humongous locomotive design a whopping 4-12-12-4 with 67 1/2 driver diameter and 330 psi to handle the huge boiler and had 4 24.5×26.5 cylinders and walschaerts valve gears and a large full rounded tender with a unheard of 88 tons coal and a 95,000 gallon water tank and had a 2 stoker because one wouldn't help feed the fireboxs hunger for coal he tender had a 4-10-10-2 wheel arrangement due to shear size.

[@TrainBandit]

@@NicholasSpisak awesome! 👍😎

[@Eric-the-bus]

Pin begger

[@ElJefe3126]

This is a tall tale. No evidence whatsoever that a 2-10-10-10-2 ever existed. One 2-8-8-8-2 (Erie) and one 2-8-8-8-4 (Virginia), both with the last set of drivers underneath the tender. A 2-10-10-2 existed, but was broken up into two 2-10-2 locomotives (had a bellows arrangement that allowed the boiler to bend!). All suffered from an inability to make enough steam; they were great at low speed but that was it. The Erie had 3 2-8-8-8-2s made and ended up using them in pusher service to get large trains over steep hills.

[@TrainBandit]

@@ElJefe3126 that is very true! 🤠 The Santa Fe 2-10-10-2s were crazy lol with the bending boiler! Thanks for watching! 🤠💯

[@00Zy99]

Actually, the ATSF had a COUPLE of those crazy articulateds. And then, several years later, the Virginian (same road that bought the triplex) ordered some 2-10-10-2s that did actually work. VERY SLOW, but they worked. They started out as "simples" with all steam going to all cylinders equally, then converted to Compounds that recycled steam from the rear cylinders to the front ones once they got going. Hilariously massive, but they worked quite well, and only got scrapped due to dieselisation.

[@TrainBandit]

@@00Zy99 I've seen this before! They don't look like they would work but they did! 🤠

[@DarrenHudson-g2x]

Great video man i loved it

[@TrainBandit]

@@DarrenHudson-g2x thanks! I'm so glad you enjoy it! 😃👍

[@DarrenHudson-g2x]

​@TrainBandit dude I can't believe this video got this popular

[@TrainBandit]

@@DarrenHudson-g2x I know right! You came up with a great story! 💯👍🤠

[@DarrenHudson-g2x]

Ty it was a good idea

[@TrainBandit]

@@DarrenHudson-g2x indeed it was! 🤠

[@AlexHome-gu9te]

Thank you cool video

[@TrainBandit]

@@AlexHome-gu9te thanks! 😃👍

[@annmariehenrioulle8399]

#3006 at beginning was Santa Fe, later chopped into 2 2-10-2 units...

[@Combes_]

In 1985, the ACE (American Coal Enterprises, a company that specialized in modern steam) was able to to fully rebuild an unspecified BR Class 4 2-6-0 into a prototype for their ACE 3000 locomotive, the rebuild included -Roller bearings on all axles, hinges, and mechanisms. -A mechanical stoker. -A tender taken from a scrapped B&O P-7. -A cowcatcher, knuckle couplers, and a bell -An in-cab radio. -A dual-lempor blastpipe system. Sadly after some trials with some coal carrying railroads, in which the engine was, naturally, underpowered for the US; The engine, nicknamed "Little Giant" after the Double Farlie engine of the same name, was scrapped as a futile attempt to keep the company out of bankruptcy.

[@TrainBandit]

@@Combes_ awesome tail! I love all the details about it! 😀

[@johnbeck3270]

I believe this to be a tall tail. I don’t think a boiler of practical size could provide enough steam for that large a locomotive. I can’t remember which railroad had built a 2-6-6-6-2 ? but this failed because the one set of drivers was under the tender and lost adhesion as the tender emptied. The locomotive you pictured is that of a Santa Fe 2-10-10-2 with an articulated boiler. This failed miserably, so badly so that the railroad separated the halves and produced two locomotives from one, so the story goes. Back in the early days of the Central Pacific, they produced a 4-12-0 as I remember, the boiler couldn’t produce enough steam for the cylinders, and the tender could only carry enough water and fuel for about 15 miles or so.

[@TrainBandit]

@@johnbeck3270 I agree 💯! I don't use pictures of the real train though because if I do it's a dead give away so instead I use pictures of a locomotive that similar, in this case a 2-10-10-2. There is also a Tall Tale Or Not instruction video in the playlist and it's also linked in a lot of videos descriptions. Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤠

[@dougscott8161]

A very confusing video, The only pictures shown depict a locomotive with two leads wheels, then 2 separate sets of 5 driver wheels and then a 2 wheeled trailer truck, so as far as there being an engine configured as 2 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 2 , I call it a tall tail and I can't see how a single unit could be made long enough to support three separate sets of driver wheels without being able to bend around any reasonable curve.

[@TrainBandit]

@@dougscott8161 ya I never use pictures of the real locomotives event if their real or fake. Ya your probably right these locomotives are kinda impractical. the answer will be in the next video though, but you probably already know the answer! Thanks for commenting!😀👍

[@paullangford8179]

The photos showed the Virginian 2-10-10-2, not a triplex.

[@TrainBandit]

@@paullangford8179 yes indeed! So when I make these I never use pictures of the real locomotive but most of the time I use a similar locomotive. If that still doesn't make sense I made a video explaining how this series works 🤠 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJKvaoyPlp5kpNksi=WroE-lCKPi_1dEqU

[@dennispersson9466]

Sorry, But the stories ive heard , were the biggest engines made , had driver wheels , with Eight wheel sets, and Ten sets , couldnt mke it around the curved tracks, in use., without what they called, "BLIND DRIVERS" ! (That's because they had no inside rims, on some wheels !)

[@TrainBandit]

@@dennispersson9466 yes your absolutely right! Most of the time a locomotive with 8 drive wheels has only 4 flanged wheels(if it is going to have blind drivers, because some don't have any) and most locomotives with 10 drive wheel only has 8 flanged wheel. 10 drivers typically only have the center 2 drivers blind however in this locomotives case it would probably be wise to have 6 drive wheels blind! 😂 If I had to guess this locomotive had a lot of blind drivers! 😂

[@organbuilder272]

The photo shows a 2-10-10-2. Where are the other drivers - DRIVERS under the firebox. No record of such an engine exists. No enigine like that could possibly be practical.

[@TrainBandit]

@@organbuilder272 well for the sake of all my videos I never show pictures of the real locomotive but I will show pictures of similar locomotives. Thanks for the opinion, and thanks for watching! 🤠

[@James_Knott]

You can't count either. That looks like a 2-10-10-2 to me, not a 2-10-10-10-2.

[@TrainBandit]

@@James_Knott I know it's not a picture of a 2-10-10-10-2 but I never use pictures of the actual locomotive, I have an entire video explaining how this series works that you can find in the playlist 🤠

[@GhostlywandererofAmericanrailr]

Maybe not tale. American idea of powerful or fastest steam locomotives created Locomotives like Big Boy, Allegheny, Yellowstone 6b and another unique Locomotives.

[@TrainBandit]

@@GhostlywandererofAmericanrailrmaybe, that is definitely a theory to wye it could be real! Thanks for commenting, the answer as always is in the the next video!😀👍

[@markwilliams2620]

Walschaerts valve gear.

[@TrainBandit]

@@markwilliams2620 ya probably! Thanks for commenting! 👍😀

[@frederickschulkind8431]

The Erie had some "triplex" locomotives. I think that they were 2-8-8-8-4. They didn't work all that well.

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

There wasn’t enough steam in the world to make it work.

[@TrainBandit]

@@frederickschulkind8431 I think they were 2-8-8-8-2s right? Ya they didn't work because their fire box wasn't supported by a trailing truck so it was narrow like a consolidation. Fireman couldn't make a large enough fire to keep the pressure up! 😂 Thanks for commenting y'all! 😃👍

[@branchlineshunter]

Five bucks it was speech to text. Curse speech to text

[@TrainBandit]

@@branchlineshunter is that some sort of ai thing?

[@branchlineshunter]

@TrainBandit actually it's no different from you hitting the microphone button on Google. It's just really buggy when you're talking at speed or talking about Pacific subjects. Hell I mostly use it on a daily basis even in this conversation. Usually you just have to look over what it's typing but even then it is in perfect.

[@branchlineshunter]

@TrainBandit speak of the devil. look at the end of that sentence.

[@TrainBandit]

@@branchlineshunter oh 😂 I don't use any of that 😂🤠

[@branchlineshunter]

@@TrainBandit I was referring to my sentence. (Then again it isn't perfect) (Then again it is in perfect)