Minato Vs Itachi - Who Would Win?

Minato Vs Itachi is a fight that has been discussed in the Naruto community for years ad its easy to see why. After all, their both very powerful shinobi from the leaf village that served as goals for Naruto and Sasuke to surpass. But the real question is which ninja has the higher power level.
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[@muslimninja9017]

Amazing video and nice analyzation of both characters!

[@DavidLucian]

In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick then most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷‍♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat(his Taijutsu it's exceptional and underrated) is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ☯️

[@momotheone9700]

Itachi is OP done fight no doubt

[@josephhamori574]

Its a fact that itachi was most certainly not a unique character, especially amongst his clan considering their were uchihas before his time,during his time, and after his time that far exceeded him. Plus its also a fact that ninja aids werent needed to kill itachi at all. All that was needed was for him to fight a unerfed character or a fight at all. For instance times in itachis life were he had opportunities to prove his hype he utterly choked lije aginst when gai showed up. Good opportunity. What happens? Flees. Next opportunity jiraya Ohhhh. Even better. What happens? Flees. Even in his battle against kakashi,kakashi had to be nerfed his mangekou sharingan simply because that level of fight would've killed itachi certainly. With obito itachi had to offer the blood of his clan to keep him away from the village simply because he had no alternative to kill him. Need more? In his first akatski mission itachi nearly effortlessly gets killed by yagura and has to be saved by a no named ninja that at the time no one even knew about like juzo which was incredibly ridiculous given his hype. So much for ninja aids😂. The near death experience scared itachi so much that the jinchurricki that he and kisame encountered afterwards kisame was always the one fighting. Against nagato was another good one v one opportunity however once again itachis fails to show testicular fortitude and teams up with the two strongest ninjas on the battlefield to have any type of a chance at victory. Agaisnt kabuto was probably the worst itachis ever looked considering that when kabuto entered sage mode itachis was literally killed by his SECOND attack lol. So itachi isnt strong at all he just simply knew who to avoid and how to take people off guard. If not for that case orochimaru would've killed him. Itachis isnt strong at all so he had to be careful with how he did things. So ninja aids had nothing to do with it he just avaoided and side stepped ninja that WOULD'VE killed him. So itachi most certainly didnt live up to his hype. Plus you cant be unique and have a pair of eyes thats damn near a cheat code because most of the work comes from them. Minato on the other hand was a genius amongst geniuses and by far the one character in the whole series that could literally do ANYTHING and fight ANYBODY(which he did). For instance sage mode is death level training but minato learned it and never once needed to use it just because he COULD meaning that the opponents that he beat he was always holding back. Another example minato takes the technique of a genuis senju clansman of his era and former hokage tobirama and makes it better because he could. Minato learns kushinas sealing techniques and makes up his own unique sealing justsu to surpress kurama in the nick of the moment because he COULD. Minato sees a bijuudama once and makes up his own version of the technique because he COULD. Sees kakashis chidori and figures out the mechanics behind it because he could. Stalemates kuramaa bijuudama while exhausted from training, stabbed through the stomach, with an incomplete rasengan he could. Obitos sharingan was enhanced with hashiramas cells and minato was still able to counter and overpower his control of kurama why? Because he COULD. Nor could obito even keep up with minato despite the sharingans overhyped cognitive abilities. Minatolearned how to control the full power of the nine tailes because he COULD.He took down 1000 shinobi and forced onoki into an alliance because he COULD. He made both a future raikage and his perfect host brother look pretty foolish because he could. Even against tentailed jinchurrickis like madara minato knew exactly how to strip the truthseeking orbs away from him so that gai could kick his ass. Why because he could. Of all the kages on the battlefield minato was the only one that didnt die but the one that had to be nerfed despite the fact that he was the only kage that physically fought both tentailed jinchurrickis. Ultimately rather minato went up against jinchurrickis, bijuu,armies, raikages,uchiha masterminds the only person that was strong enough to kill him was HIMSELF. Minato died because he CHOSE to die. And unklie itachi minato never to avoid NEEDED avoid anybody because in actuality minato could beat anyone. When you compare the two its easy to underestimate itachi ability considering he didnt do many convincing things even in terms of intellect while minato seen kamui only once and immediately knew how to beat it SINGLE handily the only form of intellectual ability itachi ever showed was figuring out chibaku tensei which is literally a self explanatory technique. So i cant say that he is a genius for figuring out the easiest formula in the world...gravity. Thats not impressive by any means. Minato because figured out how to master rasengan simply by looking at two popsicles and were not going to start on how itachi couldnt even save himself from a SINGLE jinchurricki without almost dying and juzo ACTUALLY dying while minato on the other hand saved himself,his sensei,and both of his teammates from being blown completely off the map by two jinchurricki. The best case to understand that itachis ability was extremely overrated is that people claim that he held back the entire time in his fight with sasuke while the dude was completely going all out...makes absolutely zero sense. How was itachi holding back against sasuke while literally up their utilizing his strongest techniques just trying not to die lol? Could you imagine what would've happen to itachi had he not use amaterasu against sasuke curese mark enhanced fire ball jutsu when he did? He would've died getting hit by that. Could you imagine what would've happened to itachi had he not used susanoo when he did? Kirn would've completely turned him to dust. Their was INSTANCES were itachi held back but most certainty not the ENTIRE fight. And if you're going use those instances were he held back then you're going use the instances where itachi wouldve died had he not held back on sasukes behalf making it damn near a even fight. Sasukes was outdoing itachi in genjutsu while itachi was the one with the most experience in that area. However obito tired to out do minato in space time nin jutsu but and got his ass kick badly. So we can't make excuses for itachi. Plus minato is more respectable as a ninja given the reason that he became such a theat is because his mind makes him a literal death threat. He seen useful techniques in his life mastered and made them better. While itachi just found some stupid treasures like totsuka and yata and still doesnt have many good fight. Plus itachis durability is laughable sasuke was able to stab him leg with a RIGGED SHURIKEN and hurt him and the worst part is that sasuke did that using a strategy that him and naruto came up with AS KIDS. Yet minato could get stabbed through the chest by version two kushina and not even have a reaction before stalemating kuramas bijuudama dama with a run of the mill incomplete rasengan.

[@DavidLucian]

@@josephhamori574 You need to escape the Izanami loop of your pathetic delusional stupidity thinking Nerd.🤦🏻‍♂️ Even if Itachi is basically a pacifist, that doesn't mean that he can't mobilize and adapt in an unnatural situation, especially if the confrontation is a serious one, he prefers most of the time to finish the fights as quickly as possible, that's why Itachi should never be underestimated. Itachi lived his whole life so that Sasuke could defeat him and become an Uchiha hero as well as a hero of the leaf. That, obviously, didn’t go as planned. However, it did allow Sasuke to grow and begin to start asking the right questions that would eventually lead him to becoming the man he (Itachi) wanted him to be. (Itachi was killed so that Sasuke could grow more powerful both as a character (to us in a real world moral sense) and as a Ninja. Itachi from the get go was extremely talented which more precisly means that Itachi just like Minato was pretty much an unique, authentic and especially unpredictable Shinobi which could exceed or overcome almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto himself) In my opinion No One in the series should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). That is why it is arguable/debatable that he probably could or could not defeat foes like Minato, Obito or Pain/Nagato. Itachi was also a prodigy from birth and he knew all sorts of tricks and he's definitely a troublesome fellow to encounter. In my opinion, they are both very versatile, unique, interesting and especially very unpredictable in their way of fighting style approach. If you make an effort to look or to rewatch at all of Itachi's fights, you might discover that he's pretty much always able to outsmart anyone during a fight or a encounter, because of his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach. His way of thinking and his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience factor it's very authentic and underrated, his true potential remain still unknown, because he wasn't go all out against anyone during the series.🤷🏻‍♂️☯️ I don't understand how some of you guys even dare or can to underestimate Itachi like that, many of you guys forget that Itachi isn't just any ordinary shinobi either, he is still considered by a very wide range of Naruto connoisseurs to be a very unique and unpredictable character at the same time and no one should underestimate him as some of you guys currently do. ;/ ☯️🤷🏻‍♂️What you have to remember, is that even in his battle with Sasuke, he has been fighting to lose. Itachi has always attempted to avoid conflict at all costs. He has to maintain his cover as an Akatsuki member, so he has to make viable excuses to avoid battle. When he says that fighting Jiraiya would have serious consequences, we know that he has an innate desire not to fight anyone at all, let alone a hero of the leaf, and he was a spy protecting Konoha from shadows. He could have killed Kakashi with ease. Kakashi even states that Itachi could have killed him, and wondered why he didn't. Knowing this, it is easy to see the pieces that point to a picture of Itachi that is devastatingly powerful in combat. In his confrontation with Asuma and Kurenai when he enters Konoha, we see him send Kurenai flying a large distance with a simple kick. We also see him deflect chidori, and snap Sasuke's arm like a twig with a single hand. He also sends Sasuke flying clear down the hallway with another kick in this fight. He is obviously a powerful, versatile, unpredictable and underrated taijutsu user. We know that he can kill with a glance using Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, and become nearly invincible with his Susanoo. We see him use exploding clones, (it's his one of his unpredictability in his fighting way approach) powerful genjutsu not linked to his sharingan, ( with a single point of a one of his fingers) and making hand seals at insane speeds. He kicks the shit out of Kakashi and he barely moves. Tobi also tells us himself that Itachi could have killed him if it weren't for carefully guarded secrets. Orochimaru beats Tsunade and Jiraiya without the use of his arms. Granted, Jiraiya was drugged, but it's still the point. Orochimaru couldn't use seals at all. Itachi obliterated Orochimaru effortlessly. Itachi has been a step above from the beginning. In order for him to keep his cover in Akatsuki, he had to avoid conflict without arousing suspicion, and the best way to do that was to present himself as being much less powerful than he actually is. The one thing we have been able to see in detail, is his intelligence and unpredictability in his fighting way approach. Itachi has been shown to be able to plan events years in advance, to account for possible flaws in his plans with powerful contingencies, and to use every possibility to his advantage. Shikamaru plans a few hours in advance, and we label him a tactical genius. If that is the case, what does one even call Itachi? The only real flaws that Itachi possesses is a smaller chakra reserves, and his own morality which keeps him from gaining Eternal Mangekyo. But even the chakra is arguable. The techniques we see him use are enormously powerful, and would therefor have a huge chakra cost. I'm not going to say he is the most powerful character in the anime, but I am going to say he is definitely very very high on that list, and probably higher than most people seem to give him credit for. Lastly but not least, Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. 🤷🏻‍♂️☯️✌️

[@tommyg4842]

Holy damn wall of text!

[@AzA609]

Minato was initially meant to be the strongest character in all of Part 1 of Naruto. However, with the later introduction of gods and aliens, Minato seemed to be less god-like. The further development of the Uchihas and Madara's existence made Minato appear less powerful. Kishimoto initially stated (before Madara and Otsutsuki were in the story) that Minato was the strongest deceased character. We now know that this is not true (Hagoromo, Madara, and Hashirama are stronger, but those characters did not exist at the time). Once Madara was developed, he needed a rival who was always one step stronger than him (he needed his Naruto to his Sasuke), so Hashirama and his wood style were significantly boosted compared to the Hashirama we saw reanimated by Orochimaru to fight Hiruzen. Hiruzen was afraid that Orochimaru would revive Minato, but he didn't fear fighting Hashirama because, when the story was written, Hashirama was simply that one former Hokage with a wood style gimmick. He was not considered the god of shinobi; Minato held that title. Hiruzen feared Minato because Minato was depicted as the epitome of a ninja, the highest level of skill that all ninja aspired to achieve. This is also why Tobirama was suddenly announced during the 4th Ninja War as a genius inventor who created every iconic strong jutsu (shadow clone, flying raijin, reanimation) and possessed other god-tier intelligence and sensory abilities. Tobirama was originally portrayed as that one former Hokage who excelled in water style, but then the 4th Ninja War made it apparent that his exceptional water style was not impressive when facing aliens and gods. Now, Tobirama was elevated to the same legendary status as Hashirama, Hiruzen, and Minato. Otherwise, having a person who summons water dragons alongside three gods would be quite underwhelming.

[@byronjohnson9542]

Danzo and the 3rd Hokage agreed in the light novels that Itachi was the most gifted shnobi they had EVER seen!! People hardly talk about his battle IQ and being able to figure out a strategy super fast. His speed and reaction time is slept on. Kunai, tactics, explosive shadow clones, and susanoo would be enough to take out base Minato.

[@MrJAMESTAKER]

Nice joke kid

[@momotheone9700]

I love your minato scaling, i actually agree with you, and that part where you say minato was only tryna aim for a mutual strike and he could have been faster than obito, that was genius i didnt even pick up on that its great scaling, i always thought obito at 14 was extremely relative to minato on physical speed, but it might have just been the kamui minato truly had a problem with. Personally i do consider minato faster than kcm1 just because naruto had to go all out to replicate a similar feat minato proform as a jonin, raikage stated he wasnt tryna kill naruto he was just testing him, but he was tryna kill minato, but yet naruto was trying his hardest, but minato was not when he perform that feat. So thats why, but i still accept that kcm naruto might be in the same tier, i never bought minato=raikage anyway i think that is a dumb take by ppl with agendas and im glad your not one of them, im glad you scaled itachi speed well also good job on that, plz do more VS matchups i wanna see more of your takes, im gonna subscribe👍👍💪💪

[@aut0mat1c11]

Agreed

[@NamNguyen-wh1bj]

Itachi can dodge all hit of B who can kill minato with FTG lv2 so no chance for minato to defeat itachi

[@DavidLucian]

This encounter could go either way. Both of them have almost real chances and can win against each other, in my opinion I think that their encounter will be quite unpredictable. For me Itachi has slightly better chances of winning because of his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience. In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series xD) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can they even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totsuka Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Lugetbucks]

people forget if Itachi hits minato with ANY type of genjustu It’s game over. Toska blade GG when’s he immobilized. Minato isn’t breaking out any genjustu especially not Tsukuyomi Under a micro second I’m sorry itachi will seal him before he even realizes he’s in a genjustu.

[@josephhamori574]

None of thats happening lol. People also forget that minato could kill itachi before the boys mind ever registers a thought. Avoiding genjutsu is like the easiest thing ever especially for a sensor type ninja like minato. Thats why itachi never fought in his life cant take someone off guard if they can already sense it coming plus minato sensory abilite s range as far as a whole country so itachi can forget about cast one outside of his range. That miantos, faster,smarter,and all around better than itachi plus its also the fact that minato has delt with and beat ninja more than itachi while itachi has never fought anyone strong. He either lost or he ran away,or they were nerfed. So its a easy win for minato.

[@FabioPereira-ij9iy]

Maybe yes, maybe not bro, don't forget that Minato is also a sensory ninja so I don't think it would be that easy

[@manwithoutmercy]

I ultimately don’t see Itachi scaling to pain or Orange mask Obito. I see Itachi stating he’d kill Obito as not really scaling thing. But more like he’d take him out with some elaborate plan like Konan, or even sacrifice one of his eyes

[@3rday600]

Naruto it's about match ups. Minato needs kcm to beat itachi this means Minato needs to amps while itachi has 1 amp but not that that Amp is the strongest biju meanwhile raikages fights their jinchurikis without a tailed beast in terms of base meaning no bs amps just what you got raikage are above Minato in terms of power

[@davidmichael4636]

@kamran i’m sorry, but you obviously don’t know anything about Naruto if you’re saying Minato is nine years old when it was the third great ninja war Because there was a do not fight The yellow flash of the leaf

[@KamranCreates]

I said the ninja from Kumo Cee was 9 years old not Minato lmao

[@CNDFunding]

Itachi won't need to use half his avatar to block minatos attack. Itachi has his crow clone Jutsu which a counter to ftg and minato attacks or touches. As soon as minato tries to attack itachi his crow defense activates. No matter how many clones minato makes it will be pointless because Itachi can just make more crows who can make more crows.

[@aut0mat1c11]

Bruh, Obito saw Edo Itachi along with the Edo Akatsuki when Kabuto revealed he knows Impure World Reincarnation Jutsu and he didn't even flinched. Obito saying to Sasuke that Itachi would have killed him had he known his secrets is obviously just salesmen pitch talk lie in order to sell it to Sasuke.

[@KamranCreates]

Obito didn’t say anything to Sasuke it was his own thought. Unless you think he was faking the thoughts inside his head then he should be relative to Itachi.

[@aut0mat1c11]

@@KamranCreates how in the world would Itachi even kill Obito based on what we know Obito can do? Edo Itachi could barely keep up with KCM1 holding back Naruto when Obito is keeping up with Minato when he was just 14? Obito saying that Itachi can kill him in his thoughts are just musing, an entertaining thought experiment, nothing more, not much else. Minato escapes being sucked into Kamui the first time and Obito's thoughts were, "Fast, I'll just have to teleport him in faster." unless you're telling me that Itachi has Minato level speed what does Itachi have that can help him escape being sucked in the Kamui dimension? Itachi ain't relative to Obito at all.

[@akiraman7664]

This is minato meat riding at its best

[@momotheone9700]

How?

[@akiraman7664]

@@momotheone9700 minato is trash

[@abhisheknair3964]

I just disagree that Itachi was stronger than Pain/Nagato , because as you said edo Itachi was stronger than alive Itachi and still Nagato was fighting and was proving to be tough to defeat for edo itachi + KCM Naruto and Bee all together.

[@DavidLucian]

In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick then most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷‍♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat(his Taijutsu it's exceptional and underrated) is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ☯️

[@hellkaiserzanetruesdale]

Finally someone who knows Naruto… Alive Minato wipes the floor with alive Itachi and Edo KCM2 Mintao absolutely obliterates Edo Itachi

[@CNDFunding]

itachi wins most times against minato. Itachi doesn't have to touch minato to win against him but minato has to touch or hit Itachi to win against him. Minato will not be able to hit Itachi easily with all the defensive jutsu Itachi has at his disposal. Crows, shadow clones, exploding water clones, avatar rib cage. These jutsu do not cost a lot of chakra for Itachi to Spam. Itachi also can see minato movement speed when he is not teleporting due to the Uchiha eyes precognition and sensing abilities. Because minato will have to make himself know while out of ftg phase in order to attempt an attack. That's more than enough trouble for minato to lost against a genjustu master. Itachi would have been stronger than minato too if he wasn't affected with hiv and blindness and took his brothers eyes. So you're argument is flawed too. Itachi wasn't even in his prime in most of the series, nerfed, and held back in all his fights and still made it hard for his opponents to win against him. While fighting most of his opponent by himself. Minato didn't fought handicap battles without help, being nerfed, low chakra, HIV, and blindness and still died to a 14 year old Obito with one good eye, not in his prime, less battle experience, didn't know the full extent of the opponents jutsus, didn't have enough training to understand the know all of his own jutsu only one good arm, while controling the full nine tails fighting an entire leaf village with all the ninjas and 3rd and 4th kage. Minato would get washed by Itachi. It's not a comparison to be given to minato so easily.

[@notaseal7864]

Am I the only one that thinks Itachi is slightly overrated?

[@momotheone9700]

I dont think so, but dont worry your not alone

[@notaseal7864]

@@momotheone9700 Like don't get me wrong. I'm not a hater and he and Sasuke are two of the best written characters in the entire show. Possibly in all the fiction. Their whole dynamic I mean. But people casually be talking about him like he's top three strongest in the Naruto verse. I feel like peak Obito, Madara and probably Nagato could take him. I also have only watched the entire show once and that was a few years ago so I'm sure people with more knowledge could correct me

[@DavidLucian]

​@@notaseal7864 What you have to remember, is that even in his battle with Sasuke, he has been fighting to lose. Itachi has always attempted to avoid conflict at all costs. He has to maintain his cover as an Akatsuki member, so he has to make viable excuses to avoid battle. When he says that fighting Jiraiya would have serious consequences, we know that he has an innate desire not to fight anyone at all, let alone a hero of the leaf, and he was a spy protecting Konoha from shadows. He could have killed Kakashi with ease. Kakashi even states that Itachi could have killed him, and wondered why he didn't. Knowing this, it is easy to see the pieces that point to a picture of Itachi that is devastatingly powerful in combat. In his confrontation with Asuma and Kurenai when he enters Konoha, we see him send Kurenai flying a large distance with a simple kick. We also see him deflect chidori, and snap Sasuke's arm like a twig with a single hand. He also sends Sasuke flying clear down the hallway with another kick in this fight. He is obviously a powerful, versatile, unpredictable and underrated taijutsu user. We know that he can kill with a glance using Tsukyoumi or Amaterasu, and become nearly invincible with his Susanoo. We see him use exploding clones, (it's his one of his unpredictability in his fighting way approach) powerful genjutsu not linked to his sharingan, ( with a single point of a one of his fingers) and making hand seals at insane speeds. He kicks the shit out of Kakashi and he barely moves. Tobi also tells us himself that Itachi could have killed him if it weren't for carefully guarded secrets. Orochimaru beats Tsunade and Jiraiya without the use of his arms. Granted, Jiraiya was drugged, but it's still the point. Orochimaru couldn't use seals at all. Itachi obliterated Orochimaru effortlessly. Itachi has been a step above from the beginning. In order for him to keep his cover in Akatsuki, he had to avoid conflict without arousing suspicion, and the best way to do that was to present himself as being much less powerful than he actually is. The one thing we have been able to see in detail, is his intelligence and unpredictability in his fighting way approach. Itachi has been shown to be able to plan events years in advance, to account for possible flaws in his plans with powerful contingencies, and to use every possibility to his advantage. Shikamaru plans a few hours in advance, and we label him a tactical genius. If that is the case, what does one even call Itachi? The only real flaws that Itachi possesses is a smaller chakra reserves, and his own morality which keeps him from gaining Eternal Mangekyo. But even the chakra is arguable. The techniques we see him use are enormously powerful, and would therefor have a huge chakra cost. I'm not going to say he is the most powerful character in the anime, but I am going to say he is definitely very very high on that list, and probably higher than most people seem to give him credit for. In the end you're just a Nerd which don't know or even understand a single thing about him, Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story.

[@josephhamori574]

Itachi is. And the worst part is that he weak and overrated.

[@CNDFunding]

itachi wins most times against minato. Itachi doesn't have to touch minato to win against him but minato has to touch or hit Itachi to win against him. Minato will not be able to hit Itachi easily with all the defensive jutsu Itachi has at his disposal. Crows, shadow clones, exploding water clones, avatar rib cage. These jutsu do not cost a lot of chakra for Itachi to Spam. Itachi also can see minato movement speed when he is not teleporting due to the Uchiha eyes precognition and sensing abilities. Because minato will have to make himself know while out of ftg phase in order to attempt an attack. That's more than enough trouble for minato to lost against a genjustu master. Itachi would have been stronger than minato too if he wasn't affected with hiv and blindness and took his brothers eyes. So you're argument is flawed too. Itachi wasn't even in his prime in most of the series, nerfed, and held back in all his fights and still made it hard for his opponents to win against him. While fighting most of his opponent by himself. Minato didn't fought handicap battles without help, being nerfed, low chakra, HIV, and blindness and still died to a 14 year old Obito with one good eye, not in his prime, less battle experience, didn't know the full extent of the opponents jutsus, didn't have enough training to understand the know all of his own jutsu only one good arm, while controling the full nine tails fighting an entire leaf village with all the ninjas and 3rd and 4th kage. Minato would get washed by Itachi. It's not a comparison to be given to minato so easily.

[@UrdnotWrex88]

Itachi's Susanoo has one fatal weak point simular to Madara's, it can be entered from underground. Gaara exploits this by grabbing Madara with his sand and forcing him out of the Susanoo. Minato could easily attack from below ground and kill him.

[@onyebuchichinedu3247]

Let's get one thing straight..itachi is not stronger than shisui..it was even because of shisui that was why itachi had a great power..now jiraiya was a sanin in d leave village n was considered one of d strongest ninja in d leaf village even when d Uchihas were in d leaf village..no Uchiha was stronger than jiraiya..not even shisui or fugaku..now Minato was considered d most strongest Ninja in d ninja world that a flee on sight order was given if an enemy ninja sees him.. Minato is d most strongest Ninja in that era..even stronger than jiraiya n hiruzen n all d Uchihas..Obito was using hashirama cells when he fought Minato n u no how powerful he could be when an Uchiha is using hashirama cells..but Minato beat Obito like a child..Obito had a mongekyo sharinghan just like itachi n shisui n Minato dealt with him like a child..d bottom line is dis.. shisui was d strongest Uchiha but not as strong as jiraiya..but in all of this Minato was d strongest Ninja in d village n all over d Ninja world consider him d most strongest..do u think it's easy for someone to singlehandedly stop a war..so if Minato could beat Obito who was even stronger than itachi like a kid..then comparing itachi to Minato is very insulting..pls we all should stop it..stop comparing Itachi to Minato.. Minato was d strongest ninja in d leave even when d Uchihas were still in d leaf village..

[@momotheone9700]

Itachi is far superior to Shisui

[@3rday600]

Minato is just wanked because of the fandom he might be stronger than raikage the 4ty but he's he's weaker than third raikage.