Mindanao Secession: Could the Philippines Split Apart?

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Duterte endorsed Mindanao's secession amid a feud with Marcos Jr. over drug abuse allegations. This video unpacks the complex conflict involving power struggles, constitutional reform, and geopolitics.
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[@controllerplayer1720]

for me back in 2017 - 2021 the war on drugs by the regime chair person of the philippines was only a "Propaganda" to get the trust of the Pilipino and yet it is being "Theatered".. many of those victims were "Drug Pushers and Users".. if they Bust those Warehouse where the Illegal Drugs being Kept, only those Warehouse Persons were being caught but No Druglords and No Illegal Drug Smugglers..

[@controllerplayer1720]

their modus was being exposed about the 500 million pesos CONfidential Fund and about the 51 Billion pesos that being given on Davao Local government Unit(LGU).. i think that's the start of their anger and starting to attack the current Philippine Government Administration President..

[@controllerplayer1720]

there was an issue here few months ago and the former regime chair person of the philippines back in 2016 - 2022 was involve on spreading disinformation and misinformation using his TV and social media program of SMNI.. they are brainwashing other Pilipino to hate the current Administration of the Philippine🇵🇭Government.. the SMNI was connected and Funded by the State Owned company by china which is the CGTN..

[@controllerplayer1720]

the former Very Corrupt CONgressman arni teves was a terrorist and murdered many people including a Mayor on their District and he is also behind the supporting of the secession of Mindanao to seperate it from the Philippines and he is hiding now as Fugitive in Timur Leste..

[@controllerplayer1720]

the former 2017 - 2022 philippine regime chair person and all of those involve on their Theatered and Propaganda Allegedly War on Drugs are Worrying and Thinking the current Administration of the Philippine🇵🇭Government letting the ICC to Investigate their Crimes Committed this is why they are Angry but the current Administration stated that they will not allowed the ICC to Investigate and yet they still Angry because they All Scared of their Own Shadow and doubtful about the statement of the current President..but for me what the current Philippine President was doing is that he become an Accessory for the Crime by protecting those being Accused for the Crimes Committed..

[@ErmisSouldatos]

The most sophisticated political argument ever: -You are on drugs -No, you are high -No u

[@TheApsodist]

So who is high?

[@ErmisSouldatos]

@@TheApsodist seems both of them

[@sophiearquilos236]

The commentators are high,,,,,, its only Fentanyl Talk of our President,, he used to accuse someone of using drugs if he doesnt like the person

[@annoyingkraken]

Fucking hell, that's exactly what it is. I've observed this a long time ago when I was still enjoying reading the newspapers every morning. That's exactly what it fucking is. Dumbasses all of them.

[@blackhelmet5315]

Both....both

[@bhobg]

The presence in the philippines of an armed rebel group with the acronym of MILF is our gift to the English speaking world. This has spawned many a newspaper headline such as "Milf ambushes military convoy" which am sure would conjure up images of Eva Longoria brandishing an M16 towards a battalion of soldiers.

[@quadeong7453]

Don’t forget MILF BRACES FOR FAP OFFENSIVE (real article, look it up)

[@jacob4920]

That's hot. You have triggered my fantasies.

[@timothymontes2049]

[@dheiyomain6775]

This comment goes hard holy shi-

[@carljohnespinosa3222]

I'm a Filipino and I'm low key cringing HAHAHAH

[@mendicius_jade]

I live in Mindanao, and it seems that we don't take that 'secession thing' seriously. Like, I hear no issues of people having heated debates about it, and we just don't talk about it, unless we're making jokes out of it.

[@blackpowderuser373]

Yeah there are a lot of memes. The problem starts when our fellow Mindanaoans take it too seriously. And sad to say, Duterte still has a LOT of fanatics.

[@jamiru_nahi3065]

true bruh, we know its not possible because if it is , we dont really care, secession or not, we still working for our lives and were just making meme on that issue

[@hakaishin77]

I don't think so. I am from mindanao.

[@johnramirez3247]

Because you're a blind mindanaonon

[@jerryberry5480]

@@blackpowderuser373Only his fanatics takes it seriously. But even then, his fanatics in Mindanao is already dwindling after his presidency ended.

[@engrchoucha18]

I'm from the Philippines and all I can say is Politicians and Government prioritize fighting each other rather than solving the country's problems.

[@gustavusadolphus1714]

Political dynasties in governments are disgusting.

[@jcomandante6629]

The Dutertes of Davao, the Matugas and Barbers of Surigao del Norte, Ampatuans of Maguindanao, Amatongs of Zambuanga del Norte, Dayanghirangs of Another davao. And so much more.

[@adameve2647]

Jist like in USA In every state

[@stream2watch]

@@adameve2647 Not even close

[@werren894]

except monarchy

[@badluck5647]

​@@adameve2647There were two Adams and two Bushs as presidents in near 250 years of American history. That is hardly comparable to Filipino political dynasties.

[@user-jq5yk4ie8o]

I'm from the Philippines and I would like to say that our two Presidents are extremely Childish!

[@SOCNV]

Yes the vice president Leni was lutang

[@user-jq5yk4ie8o]

@@SOCNV I don't really understand this! But I didn't vote on any of them!

[@Reicist_Redpilled]

Are you idiotic? What did Marcos do wrong? Protecting the national territorial integrity from the insurrectionists?

[@mixmaster1905]

@@SOCNV God y'all really have no other talking points huh? while your incompetent candidates act like children y'all still focus on leni huh? miss her much?

[@leonardogonzalesiii7356]

​@@SOCNVLeni is living in your head rent free.

[@kaerprime7403]

I'm from Mindanao and I'm pretty sure us regular people don't want that kind of change. What we want are jobs and overall progress and neither Marcos Jr. or Duterte Sr. seem to have that as their priority.

[@Mondy667]

Lmao, you only realized it now? Not in 2016 (you're in the clear if you can't vote then) or in 2022 during the election. Disregard this if you're not a supporter of both sides

[@herrkommandank675]

Because the whole nation is in focus if you're the head of government, not only where you came from, nonetheless, the former administration did well.

[@johnramirez3247]

I'm also from mindanao and I want jobs and progress.... and also secession lol

[@nolifelpasajol145]

The politicians are the problem, both local and national elected. They fail to develop Mindanao into a prosperous region.

[@Dragstersol]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@johnramirez3247do you realize that a secession will set your jobs and progress back for at least a decade or more? Companies will pull-out, jobs will be lost, economy will crash, possible hyperinflation that will destroy future generations.

[@blackpowderuser373]

I will speak as someone who is a Filipino AND born in the southern Philippines. There is indeed an economic disparity between the capital of Manila and the surrounding areas in Luzon (northern Philippines). More than 80% of the country's GDP is generated here. However there are also prosperous cities in the central (Visayas) and southern (Mindanao) areas. If Mindanao secedes (which is for now unlikely), Mindanao loses A LOT of its revenues because Luzon is essentially bankrolling the growth of Davao (ironically Duterte's home city), Cagayan de Oro, and other Mindanaoan cities. On our own, we cannot even fully subsidize the more rural areas. Hell, even Duterte could NOT finish his pet project for a railway in Mindanao when he had all the power to do so! There were some instances where federalism is being pushed as a solution to the country's economic disparity of its regions. However, even our local politicians admitted that doing federalism will only make things worse because that would mean the poorer regions will not be able to generate more revenue on their own. Mindanao, for all its mineral resources, is still incapable of self-sustenance. Even the oil-rich Bangsamoro, a historically Muslim-dominant region, has already said NO to Mindanaoan secession, after decades of fighting for autonomy. Manila has always subsidized the southern regions BUT the problem is that there are A LOT of regional dynasties here who seek personal wealth through politics, leaving the ordinary people with scraps of the national budget for us. We are relatively okay here in the southern cities, but the rural areas are still impoverished despite government efforts to reduce poverty. The real issue behind this recent call for secession is that Rodrigo Duterte is now under increased pressure to answer for his alleged crimes against humanity in his drug war. He no longer commands power like he used to when he was President, but he still has a solid, fanatical base centered in Davao and some parts of Mindanao. His secession call is likely a bargaining tool for him to escape accountability rather than meet the genuine aspirations for Mindanao. And sadly, many people here in the South are falling for his lies. Not to mention, he has always been pro-China so a divided Philippines (or at least, a distracted one) will definitely play into China's hands. Long story short, Duterte wants an independent Mindanao to protect himself, NOT to serve his constituents. I am a southern-born Filipino, and I say NO TO SECESSION. We are a united Philippines, through thick and thin. 🇵🇭

[@johnramirez3247]

I'm more of united visayas and mindanao secession. Unity with luzon?? Pweee!! Imo nana!

[@miguelbonifacio9038]

​@johnramirez3247 tanga spotted 😂😂😂

[@junemarteogayon4278]

t*ang ina ito ang pinakamatalinong comment na nabasa ko dito.. thanks to you.. many filipino need to see this...

[@angelo_alexpaguntalan411]

​@@johnramirez3247 lol united with who?!? You guys are just Visayan migrants. Sawa na kami sa mga ma pride nga bisaya lols, pweee!! Soon to be banana islamic state 😂 Luzon ❤ Visayas

[@arriane147]

​@@johnramirez3247 Are ya even aware of the consequences if Mindanao tends to get isolated from Luzon and Visayas? I'm from Mindanao but the consequences will be devastating and that's for sure.

[@dulio12385]

This is the political equivalent of "Man yells at Cloud". He caused a scene and no one cared.

[@bonbonbonbons]

You can say that to about every old and grumpy politician like trump or biden lmao

[@d3nny_s3mpai]

​@@bonbonbonbons Yeah, like my country's politicians 😒🇸🇰

[@jonathanodude6660]

no people care when trump or biden cause a scene. theyre both extremely embarrassing for the US and its allies.@@bonbonbonbons

[@korayven9255]

@@bonbonbonbons Biden's too old and sleepy to really yell or cause a serious scene. Trump, however, I wish would just shut the f*ck up.

[@carlquistoy5446]

We Mindanaoans cared, the national government should stop the decades old neglect of Mindanao, or else they will face more calls for the independence of the island.

[@paulsteaven]

Really weird that the first Philippine President who hailed from Mindanao Island is now the prime endorser of Mindanao secession. While the Moro organisation who fought for it, now wants to stay and continue in working with the Philippine Government thru a special administrative region (BARMM). If he really wants the improvement of Mindanao, he should have fixed the red tape, bureaucracy, and limit the political dynasties that is really hampering the growth and improvement of Mindanao and other provinces/islands for decades. It really shows that his call for Mindanao Secession is just for his self interests and the survival of his family's political dynasty.

[@esense9602]

Or he just wanted to be arrested so ICC cannot take him to the court. Duterte can just delay the case.

[@adameve2647]

​@@esense9602you kinds pf people always rely on ICC since when killing kidnap groups, rapist,drug lords,violent addicts , terrorist,NPA,theft a sin? ICC is just a tools for the west they don't want a stable and secure world it's just a lie a scam and people fooled for it..

[@user-ib9zp9jp6o]

You are right, i was a supporter OD d du30s for they Originally come from Leyte but doesnt support his anti Marcos..

[@lowkoalatee4033]

way more peaceful.. knowing what they all went through especially the trauma of so much violence.. they know they fought hard for what they got and probably dont want the new generation to experience the shit they went through just because 2 political families are butting heads.

[@pipipupu5104]

​@@esense9602 why is icc demanding to arrest him?

[@Normalaatsra]

Unlike the Scotland splitting from the UK situation, this spat is simply a spat. I don't expect them to actually do this. Couldn't say if it's a good thing either, Philippines culture during its founding is entirely self centred on Luzon, no regard given to Visayas and Mindanao. Don't know about the situation politically though.

[@peacebewu]

I think "centered on tagalog/manila region" would be more accurate. There are other languages and culture *within* Luzon that is distinct from Manila/Tagalog.

[@jerryberry5480]

Some parts of Luzon are also surprisingly economically behind the rest of the country like Bicol and Cagayan Valley.

[@OuroBoros-px7df]

​@GatDagohoy "Luzon seeking independence" is the funniest thing ive heard all day, only Mindanao is an autonomous part of the Philippines, they can either vote or not to get away from the Philippines, but economy means they can't, Mindanao splitting from Philippines would be literally just worse than Papua New Guinea situation. Luzon and Visayas is completely part of the Philippines, Luzon is the origination of the Philippines itself and Visayas too. Filipino netizens are only the ones who want Mindanao to split away, not the actual people of the Philippines "Citizens".

[@iceteazen]

I disagree from Bicol. Metro Manila gets all the fun. Pampanga had seen some nice development too that's why I moved to Clark for good. I despise the terrible congestion in Manila. I can't work their. I miss my homeland but I have no choice my work is in the business centers. Plus the dynasty in camarines sur is terrible. Robredo should run for governor to cut the Villafuerte dynasty for good.

[@Sulaymanthebrave]

​​​@@iceteazenAlmost all politicians in the Bicol region are horrible, disgusting, and corrupt. Doesnt really matter who becomes governor. I mean, just take a look at the region itself, a complete backwater with agriculture as its main industry and even the agriculture industry is a backwater still stuck in the 16th century, in fact, the whole region is stuck in the 16th century. There's little to no progress in that region...

[@iamreaperd]

I study Political Science in one of the biggest schools in the Philippines and I have to say, this was very well made and researched. Kudos, my friend

[@gilberth7]

Even though i do not have expertise in political science like you do. I can say the same. Excellent research, indeed.

[@johncane2304]

The more Filipinos educated ,the more it would be tangled everything

[@erzalovesthesun9602]

You don't need to study in some big schools to know politics. You only need to pay attention. Was it mentioned that there was never an alliance between duterte and marcos? Sara and bbm yes but never digong and bbm atleast in the 2022 elections. I think it's the thought that during the surveys, her daughter is leading at sinayang nya lang ang oportunidad.

[@gilberth7]

@@erzalovesthesun9602 in short, engot si sara. Di talaga pwede maging presidente.

[@-socialcredit]

The Philippine Republic: when a democracy has both monarchal and mafia family elements

[@bregothehorse6158]

Wait till' this guy finds out about monarchies! Still true tho

[@josearnaldo9242]

If Democracy was Feudal

[@OnlySubhumansWorkAtYouTube]

Always the same with uneducated people...

[@thwguywithwisdom4028]

who said the Philippines is democratic. it is more REPUBLIC and THEOCRATIC if it is democratic, they wouldn't have a problem accepting same-sex marriage, civil union, polygamy, and lift the religious blaspheme bill in fact, christianity is COMMUNIST, ask me if u wanna know y

[@anneeq008]

No matter how corrupt the system is. They are still Hella to an electoral standard and the public still have a say. That's still far better than a monarchy

[@r1ppl3_13]

this on the next level of confusing(saying this as a filipino) i didnt expect the Philippines to be mentioned and this came out of nowhere for me.

[@jasperreyes5174]

It's only confusing if you never learned that Mindanao has always been trying to secede since the Spanish got kicked out... Mindanao was never conquered by the Spanish yet Mindanao was added to the Map that the USA received from Spain when the USA bought the Philippines during the Paris Treaty and Mindanao was tricked by the Americans into joining the Early Philippines Commonwealth Government and Constitution the USA was trying to establish back then before the Japanese attacked during WW2... Mindanao being mostly Muslim is also a Factor to why Mindanao wants to secede...

[@r1ppl3_13]

@@momytik ikr, i follow politics too so its kinda surprising. wont state my opinions on any of them though as there are flamers lurking around everywhere.

[@carlosandleon]

This is probably just temporary drama. Highly unlikely for any real political moves to come from this dispute

[@r1ppl3_13]

@@carlosandleon Philippine politics in a nutshell

[@avakiin6614]

​@carlosandleon Other than hopefully the downfall of the Dutertes. But in terms of having the shitty ass political dynasty system that we have, yeah it won't change anything.

[@joershon]

One aspect that was not in the video that is vital to the discussion is the issue of "People's Initiative" in changing the constitution. There were no public discussions / fora where the process was elaborated. Local officials just started gathering signatures from the constituents. That was the context when Former President said that he'd rather separate Mindanao than let the constitution be changed thru "people's initiative".

[@herrkommandank675]

That is the context that needs to be added.

[@gustavonascimento269]

I've been monitoring MILF's actions in PH for years now, this entire situation is nuts.

[@OrphiousGG]

I'm sure you have

[@HanbooLeidenschaft]

Which milf you are monitoring bruh😅

[@jerryberry5480]

To be fair, the Moro seccessionist movement has significantly toned down ever since the change of government system in Bangsamoro in 2019. This Mindanao seccession is just a result of Duterte throwing tantrums because the current president is storngly considering continuing ICC’s investigation on our war on drugs

[@paradoxxxial_leo]

@@OrphiousGG your reply just makes his comment sound weirder out of context

[@Youbroke123]

Duterte is afraid of getting imprisoned for the drug on war in his administration during his term he illegally murdered innocent and drug addicts but no druglords were eliminated the current president wont protect duterte from ICC so he wants secession for clout and trying to avoid imprisonment

[@dustinabigan2776]

It's not really surprising that the "UniTeam" started to have some bit of infighting when their main platform during the elections was "unity." The purpose of that coalition is to win the elections first, and then worry about leading the country later. So all it really takes to cause problems would be if there is one disagreement. From there, it's all too easy for more disagreements to come out and ultimately escalate to wanting Mindanao to be a separate country.

[@DiscordBeing]

Why are your leaders such children?

[@xyeB]

@@momytikwhy is Bibi and biden free?

[@silverhawkscape2677]

​@@DiscordBeing Dude. Look at the West. Britainah Multiple Prime Ministers because they all resigned. The France have Macron. America has Biden. We all have Children Leaders.

[@bonbonbonbons]

​​@@DiscordBeingUnderdeveloped country and society. 400 years of colonialist powers passing the country like hot potatoes have stifled MOST of the innovation. Arguably it's not the main cause, I also cite poor education and weird mentalities which would have resulted in a better country, society and similarly politicians and voters.

[@aldrinmilespartosa1578]

current friends. future enemies

[@prateekbhurkay9376]

07:20 How did Ben keep a straight face while talking about a group called M.I.L.F?

[@MisF1998]

It's still funny that milf means entirely different outside in the Philippines. 😂

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Dude. They were Established in the 80s long before the Internet. Give them a Break.

[@bonbonbonbons]

Also, during the Spanish occupation, one of the groups that called for independence were named KKK.

[@bonbonbonbons]

KZbin did allow me to say this because they think I was one of those ghost wizards but during the 333-year spanish occupation there was an independence movement called *K*ataastaasang *K*agalanggalangang *K*atipunan ng mga anak ng bayan (Translates roughly to The most highest, respectable-est society of the sons of the mation). Tourists are often bewildered whenever they see their monuments.

[@d3thkn1ghtmcgee74]

Things can appear coincidentally too like the kkk in the US and the KKK in the Phillipines which actually is kataastaasang kagalanggalangang katipunan, even though they predate the order of the golden circle and actually had pretty noble goals.

[@ArabicReja973]

Mr Marcos Jr. is working for the Philippines 🇵🇭 people, while Duterte has been working on behalf of the Chinese government.

[@btsmochimi7924]

Mindanao is self sufficient on its own. It runs a lot of agriculture, power, logistics, and other resources that the country needs. This discussion may fade over time but I hope this would provide Mindanao the spotlight to open up more economic opportunities that were centralized in NCR. Its long overdue.

[@chocolaa-p2689]

Mindanao enjoys such a large portion of the national budget even though they only contribute for 17%… Mindanao has the budget and isnt being neglected by the national government, sadyang napakakurakot lang talaga ng mga pulitiko dyan na binubulsa nila ang budget na binibigay sakanila

[@Hey1234Hey]

I feel like Duterte will go through any means to stay in power even if it means splitting the country apart.

[@mrs.shootingstar-garcia4799]

It's more for the clout chasing... And probably being coward since he didn't do his promises like going to West Philippine Sea riding a Jet Ski and putting a Philippine Flag

[@JeffreyBernabe]

So you want unlimited term to marcos/romualdez clan?

[@bonbonbonbons]

​@@mrs.shootingstar-garcia4799Or it's a way to distract people from his ICC case, kind of like what Boris Johnson with "boris bus".

[@justinsanchez3286]

For 6 years he got a taste of absolute power, no way he's gotta settle for less after that

[@mrs.shootingstar-garcia4799]

@@bonbonbonbons It is... Either way, we won't get distracted

[@freshbakedclips4659]

I'm a local here in Mindanao, born and raised. To be honest, we just want fair tax return through Federal government system. If the elites in Luzon won't listen, then perhaps I am open to the idea of Mindanao Secession, which is last resort. I hope this clarifies that we Mindanaoans do not want more conflict within our nation, especially during these challenging times against China and Russia's military expansion.

[@JimNovera-wo6nh]

na sa LGU niyo na yan, tignan mo yung Cebu lalong umuunlad kasi yung LGU ginagamit nila sa tama HAHAHAHAHA

[@TenTen-ty4lq]

Fun fact: Congressman Pantaleon Alvarez was a former speaker who was ousted by Dutertes and had been an opposition voice in the remainder of his term. But priorities and power changes so 😂

[@ianhomerpura8937]

It wasn't the Dutertes that ousted Alvarez, but another faction led by former President and Pampanga representative Gloria Arroyo.

[@GneissAlucard]

​@@ianhomerpura8937 Arroyo, Sara Duterte and Imee Marcos plotted on Alvarez's ouster. Thry are even called The Powerpuff Girls at that time

[@gilberth7]

​​@@ianhomerpura8937nope, sara's camp and duterte himself circulated that it was sara duterte's doing, so that she can claim political prowess. But recent events lead me to think sara is actually a political pipsqueak.

[@firefirefire3277]

​@@gilberth7 nah, it's not really Sara who orchestrated that ouster. They just wanna give the credit to Sara just to make her appear powerful in politics but it's all Arroyo who planned it. Remember that Arroyo is what they call a smart bitch because of how she bypassed the constitutional provision that states that presidents should only have 6 years one term in power but she ended up 9 years in power.

[@blackpowderuser373]

@@gilberth7 Sara is a local powerhouse in Davao and the rest of Mindanao, but a national pipsqueak riding on her father's charisma. Without Gloria Arroyo's guidance, Sara on her own would not have been easily on the national spotlight. At best, a voice for Mindanao.

[@Jayvee4635]

Bangsamoro doesn't even want to seceed. How even...?

[@watermenlon3617]

It's basically the need of funding from NCR.

[@esense9602]

Bangsomoro got what they want, autonomy so there's no point.

[@jcomandante6629]

They got their autonomy and basically the cash from the Central government.

[@chrysllerryu4171]

because if mindanao secedes, it doesn't guarantee that bangsamoro will still became autonomous, and the fact that christians are still majority in mindanao, plus other tribes that are not muslim. its just gonna be another war. bangsamoro wants a ISLAMIC STATE OF MINDANAO, but I don't think duterte and the congressmen who wants secession wants islamic state either. why restart the deal if you already progressing on the main deal. they are comparing singapore seceding from malaysia to mindanao, dreaming they will also became like singapore. they forgot the reason singapore got rich because its united, and its topography become ideal PORT and TRADE HUB. mindanao is not like that. its a trade hub, its an exporter, but for how long? the fact that in 50 years of islamic conflict, majority of civilian killed by muslim rebels are mindanaoans, not from luzon or visayas. plus plaguing communism in the area. it will breed a new civil war for control in mindanao, the worst could happen is it will divide mindanao into different states

[@Jayvee4635]

@@chrysllerryu4171 To add to your statement, Singapore was Kicked Out of the Malay Federation.

[@rangered_64]

As a Filipino who was definitely not expecting this in the first place. From my view, not just only having the US precence increased or the potential revision of the Constitution, but it could also be due to the fact that Marcos is opening back up the probe of the ICC, which could prosecute Duterte and his other allies who were involve in his early drug war.

[@FL-uj7cs]

Would you mind elaborating on why US presence would lead to a revision of the constitution?

[@watermenlon3617]

@@FL-uj7cs the word "or" implies that that is unrelated.

[@FL-uj7cs]

@@watermenlon3617 Oh whoops, my bad. Just woke up lol

[@joshthalheimer]

@@watermenlon3617 thanks. That's as clear as mud.

[@AL-lh2ht]

You know the US is just throwing free money at Philippines right?

[@user-wc4ei3zu1k]

To PBBM, Do you remember or even know about the projects your father started but were left undone? Why did you discontinue the funds for The Coastal Road in Davao? Why do you want "charter change"? Why are the people of Mindanao offered money if they sign for "charter change"? Two last questions. Who are you taking advice from and what do they have to gain? Respect, Please.

[@sonic55193]

First comment I found so far that knew the core of the issue. People in this comment section just came in half in the conversation and only reacting on the aftermath.

[@junemarteogayon4278]

"o you remember or even know about the projects your father started but were left undone?" just wondering why its left undone?? do you have any idea why??

[@Arandomeditor2009]

Probably discontinued because of fund shortages, but in exchange he did fund the farmers around the country to ensure more crop supplies to eat.

[@junemarteogayon4278]

​@@Arandomeditor2009 theres a chance, or a chance that a lot of people has been brainwashed and prolly did something they regret just after a year or 2 after

[@LB-tm4vv]

Disgusting actions for a former president. What a troublemaker!

[@fritzid]

As an Indonesian, it's sad to think that we're actually getting closer to this kinda thing

[@thyssenheinel6507]

Let me tell you this is nothing. Some people making this issue bigger by "someone" who wants to see PH in chaos to focus on and leave other affairs unchecked specially when it comes to the sea.

[@abcddef2112]

Jokowi and Duterte are very different.

[@zjzr08]

The thing with Jokowi's son is just minuscule compared to what's happening here IMO -- I'm more concerned about more extremist Islamists creeping in your politics.

[@momon4868]

@@zjzr08 I'd be happy to tell you, the 'Extremist Islamists' are already long gone. It only happened during 2017-2019 elections, it was a short burst of reactionary protests. FPI (islamic hardline front) were abolished in 2020.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

@@zjzr08 about jokowi's son issue, youre underestimating it. this is only the beginning. when he finally has the power who knows which constitution next to be broken. as an indonesian i am very very scared that this will bring back our democracy to pre-1998.

[@animeyahallo3887]

All I can say is, we Filipinos had the chance to elect a person who have the potential and ability to break the glass ceiling, the majority however chose someone who shattered the glass floor.

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

That statement offers nothing of information.

[@pogi-si-boni]

@@momytik by "leader", do you mean elected or prominent? because if you're indonesian, and im filipino, tan malaka actually helped the filipino left in the 1920s.

[@wile123456]

Asia is truly morally bankrupt, doing feudalism with extra steps with their political dynasties instead of having political parties

[@rragang]

@@momytik Duterte was the left-wing candidate in 2016, but after he won, to appease the conservatives and the right-wing faction of the military, he turned right after he won. but a lot of his economic policies during his term was a welfare state type of left wing economics. He was authoritarian, and clearly a pro-China politician.

[@elry6030]

This kind of comments and thinking doesnt wonder me why Pinoys are like that.

[@nahidbethehonoredone]

As a Mindanaoan native and a Davaoeño now disillusioned with the current ruling dynasties and personalities, I consider this entire fiasco as mere political feud between these clowns and I refuse to support either camp. Instead of secession which will certainly not do us any good at all, I call for and urge the federalization and regional devolution of the Republic instead, consider applying a set-up similar to European federal republics or the British parliament.

[@jerryberry5480]

Gonna be tough for Mindanao when they get independence. They can’t just easily export all that agricultural products and natural resources they have. They’d also need to apply ASEAN membership to immediately secure a free trade agreement with any countries but it is likely to take forever just like Timor Leste’s application lol.

[@yamyam2987]

Old politicians, just enjoy your retirement when your time is up. Unless, you're afraid that your past wrongdoings will catch up with you later on

[@herrkommandank675]

There is no wrongdoing of an administration who has led sustainable economic growth (still being one of the fastest economies in Asia experiencing a growth of a middle class populace) and security (the administration who still gave the highest budget for military modernization until now).

[@LensBlurr]

thats exactly whats happening now. i mean its pretty obvious. i bet duterte looses his cool everytime he hear anything about icc. he's obviously shaken up by it and it shows. clearly paranoid. funny man.

[@gilberth7]

​​@@herrkommandank675surprise, horizon 3 for the armed forces modernization was just approved by president marcos jr. The LARGEST military spending in philippine history ever. Duterte could never compare with his unusable cheap guns from russia and china. What a waste of taxpayers money procuring incompatible weapons from duterte's china and russia "friends". Not to mention spending billions on russian helicopters for downpayment then duterte cancelling the orders before he stepped down. What did duterte really do?

[@floydyutiamco]

Marcos got nothing done yet. All he did is have the time of his life traveling the world paid by the taxpayers money. He needs to get his act together man

[@gilberth7]

@@floydyutiamco just as duterte did nothing yet when he was just less than 2 years in power. All the finished projects were started and funded by his predecessor, aquino even left a 1 trillion budget to duterte. Meanwhile, Marcos had to deal with the 14 trillion debt Duterte left behind because of Duterte's mismanagement of the pandemic. If only Duterte had some balls, he would have closed borders with his Chinese friends and the pandemic could have less severe impact, but of course, fentanyl-laced duterte has no balls at all. Also, vietnam overttok the philippines under duterte's watch. What a pity, you seem to idolize a nincompoop president.

[@sidc.3817]

Please research the National Budget Allocations by Region in the Philippines (from 2014-2023). You will quickly see that the underdog of budget allocations IS NOT MINDANAO and instead it is the Visayas. And yet the Visayas manages to see a lot of economic and infrastructure development that could catch up with Manila. So the question is if Mindanao Secessionist's claims of economic constriction by Manila a valid reason or not and with a little bit of research, it is easily determined the claim is a lie when you contrast it with the ability of the Visayas to do so much with so little.

[@burgosjho4584]

What "Visayas" are you referring to? Cebu? Do not generalize the whole region for a single province. Other than Cebu, no province in there that "can do so much with so little". Also, even doing "so much" we are still so far from Metro Manila in terms of infrastructures. I am a proud Cebuano by the way, and for your additional information we are the richest province in the country out of 81. And we are not that well off like let's say Quezon City. Also, Visayas (Or probably Cebu; is what you mean by Visayas) doing so much with so little doesn't change the fact of the inequality and injustice, if there is anything it should be the other way around. We contribute so much yet get so little and on top of it all we are expected to do so much of it? SPEECHLESS.

[@sidc.3817]

@@burgosjho4584 I am more speechless at your logic. You haven't been to Bacolod or IloIlo haven't you? Travel around a bit to adjust your flawed reasoning about Cebu being the only developing city in the region. Besides delicious Lechon what else does Cebu offer to the economy? Name them instead of saying a blanket statement that you have "Given So Much". I was specific enough to point to the National Budget Allocations. Cebu is not that behind Manila as you try to play it. Don't you have Tsuenishi, Austal (and probably Damen Soon), BPOs, Mini Steel Mills, tons of road constructions and expansions, didn't you just open the Cebu Cordova bridge, and don't you have a mass transit development project already ongoing, and how about the Mactan airport didn't it just expand recently? WHAT DO YOU MEAN CEBU IS BEHIND? Do you mean in mind and in spirit and not just in body?? Also Cebu is not just the island in the Visayas....I really recommend you travel the region to discover Iloilo Bacolod, Dumaguete, etc in the islands of Panay and Negros, and maybe get some nice mangoes in Guimaras (I'd be lying if their mangoes are not export quality).

[@burgosjho4584]

@@sidc.3817 I will surely put Bacolod and Iloilo to my travel goals. But you are trying to skewed my argument. First and foremost, I am only using cebu as it is the only city, other than Mandaue which is a neighboring city of cebu, are the only City in the visayas listed in wealthiest cities in the Philippines according to COA's 2022 Annual Financial Report and Cebu Province is the wealthiest province according in the same report. For the sake of argument, let's say that Bacolod and Ilo-ilo is as wealthy as Cebu, does putting ONE or TWO other city change the fact of the injustice and inequality non-imperial cities suffer from the central government. In COA's Annual Financial Report, among the 10 cities listed as the wealthiest there are only 3 outside the Imperial Metro; Mandaue City, Cebu City (Both from the same Cebu Island) and Davao City; the others are Quezon, Makati, Manila, Pasig, Taguig, Mandaluyong, and Paranaque - The first five being the richest in the report respectively. Also, it is a false pregnancy on your part using the argument that I am stating a blank statement. Being generic and not specific does not invalidate my statement nor make yours credible. BUT let me be specific for your convenience, Cebu along with Negros Oriental and Bohol (Not where your Bacolod and Iloilo is) accounted for 6.5 percent share in the overall country's gdp in 2019. And as a supplement for the deficiency of you information, Cebu has the highest Industry and Services (like BPO among others) output in the region. Cebu also along with Bohol have the highest tourism output in the whole Visayas Region. And Cebu is exporter of many agricultural products like chevon in the philippines. But so much for that, my argument is not Cebu being the sole contributor in the region in fact I am only stating that other than Cebu - and let's include you Bacolod and Ilo-ilo, others cities and provinces in the Visayas, sadly is neglected when we are religiously contributing a lot for the country's overall income. That is physically true, and to an exponential level, for the Mindanao whose contributing so much for the country's export products. Lastly, I would also like to point this out, you are the only one giving the argument that the Visayas is doing a lot inspite of having so little of the budget allocation, so it is not so bright to be pointing a sword at yourself by saying that we have many infra projects - it will counter your argument that we have so little of the allocation when in fact according to you we have CCLEX and etc. To end, i would like to inform, enlighten and correct you, CCLEX or the Cebu - Cordova Expressway is NOT A PROJECT of the National Government it is the effort of our local government bodies thru the funding of public (loans of the LGU's) - private (thru concession agreements) partnership.

[@TaLeng2023]

Middle East royalties have have oil, Mindanao royalties have the national budget.

[@sidc.3817]

@burgosjho4584 I give you 100% for effort but you definitely need to read up more and apparently you also need to travel the region more so you wouldn't have the prepackaged "kinakawawa kami" starter set of thinking. It is now very clear to me that the above said makes you the incorrect person to have a conversation with. After this final attempt to open your willfully shut eyes and convince you to inform yourself, I will let you have your alone time in your tub of tears all you want. I am unable to heal your afflictions, which require a miracle. You have been cherry picking in the orchard all this time. Let's bring in more fruitful facts. I will also use your favorite source WikiDigong because it seems you are having personal difficulties in visiting Philippine Government Websites such as the Department of Budget and Management, Department of Interior and Local Government, and your regional LGU. Just kidding, I am allergic to lethargy in thinking and in self informing, so I will have to use the above Ph Gov websites as is. 1. GRDP (Gross Regional Domestic Product in case you have to look it up)- Feel free to put in effort to actually go to the Philippines Statistics Authority and find the spreadsheets. You can do it! ⦁ NCR (2022): 6.3T Php ⦁ Central Visayas (2022)- in case you don't know either, Cebu is in here: 1.3T Php ⦁ Davao Region (2022): 0.95T Php ⦁ Your "Given Much More" is an entertaining narrative from encantadia. 2. Growth Rates of GRDP (this is the speed at which a balloon grows if you blow air into it before it goes pop!) ⦁ NCR (2021-2022): 7.2% ⦁ Central Visayas (2021-2022): 7.6% ⦁ Davao Region (2021-2022): 8.1% ⦁ Your "Inequality and Injustice" is again an excerpt narrative from GMA's encantadia. By your insistence of economic constriction logic, one would expect that Central Visayas and Davao Region economies shouldn't even be growing at all (and not even exceed that of NCR). But alas, your desired storyline is only feasible in encantadia (again). 3. Population Density (This is very much non existent in your playright's script) ⦁ NCR (2020): 22K people/sq km ⦁ Central Visayas (2020): 509 people/sq km ⦁ Davao Region (2020): 257 people/sq km ⦁ Perhaps this is where your inequality exists: NCR is more susceptible to secondary whiffs of farts per sq km. GRDP is very much dependent on population density. As you can see NCR is packed like bagoong. To make it really easy for you, a 100 family apartment building has more plumbing, electrical, as well as more wear and tear maintenance costs than a 2 family duplex. What you are arguing is to take the very plumbing, electrical, and maintenance effort from the 100 family apartment and give it to the 2 family duplex to make things fair. This is the crux of your entire story, which makes you the show's imperialist that you paint Manila as. Have a good day and best of luck in your journey of self development.

[@KinEnzo9788]

the irony of the Uniteam coalition alliance lmao

[@sonic55193]

It's expected, because there's no worthy opposition, so we will create our own.

[@KinEnzo9788]

@@sonic55193 I agree but dividing the country is probably not the best solution, Duterte just wants power and wants to hide from the ICC, he just spews extreme ideas to stop the people's initiative, and to be honest both parties are bad, so let's just watch two crocodiles argue each other, and let the uniteam alliance crumble and we will see their true colors

[@nghekkkk828]

How is it ironic? Unity exists because there is division, it is not a fixed concept.

[@KinEnzo9788]

​@@nghekkkk828you just proved my point it is ironic 😂, the purpose of uniteam coalition was to unite our country by having coalitions with the two biggest dynasty families in the Philippines like the Duterte's and the Marcoses same with the Romualdez and the other major political parties in the Philippines yet the Marcos and the Duterte families disagree on such topics like ChaCha and the ICC now we are here to the point where Duterte wants to make Mindanao separate from the Philippines now tell me where is the Uniteam there? when Duterte wants to separate Mindanao where is the Unity there? 😂

[@nghekkkk828]

@@KinEnzo9788 why are you so offended over something I didn't say?

[@jonnelacecodog3490]

As a filipino, I would say that the government we have is a big circus.

[@herrkommandank675]

It's a democracy, any political disagreement or tension is expected, the country is one of the fastest growing in Asia with growing industries and improving socio-economic conditions, that is the same government that is facilitating this development.

[@jonnelacecodog3490]

@@herrkommandank675 how did u know that? Are u from Philippines?

[@donniebrasco99]

Well, the current administration is definitely better than Duterte's administration

[@giripog28]

@@jonnelacecodog3490 It's in the news. Even other nationalities are informed of that. Probably you're one of those "Philippines must not prosper during this admin. We must always deny it. ahhhh"

[@FatKat911]

​@@herrkommandank675 It is not democratic if politicians are doing it for their own purpose, rather than caring the entire nation.

[@davidorellana6278]

Did he say the M.I.L.F?

[@manupontheprecipice6254]

The unfortunately named Moro Islamic Liberation Front... otherwise known as MILF. Poor bastards are gonna get memed.

[@listener8228]

Yes, that's the official acronym of our rebel group here in the PH

[@Jedsa009]

Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).

[@tumao_kaliwat_napulo]

Yes, but you won't find hot mommas there.... Only hot rifle barrels and decades of struggle for autonomy...

[@anthonymanderson7671]

Yes but that's the acronym of a rebel group in the Philippines not what you think something else.

[@SOCNV]

This is just blowing things out of proportion one former president said it but the rest of the governors don’t support it so no it has no merit and won’t form anything

[@eliascabrega2582]

No way for secession,it will only benefit few people those who are aspiring fo it. It is unconstitution.

[@lexzyrrehdevonnaireabellan6717]

I cannot believe a political discussion about the Philippines would be at this level of civility.

[@zjzr08]

I'm gonna be frank, I think this spat slowly has raised the curtain of how these 2 populist "fanbases" see the families now, and they're reluctant to say anything fanatical now, seeing the slander against former allies.

[@J.G.WredgeDLovesCloudsandStars]

Interestingly, its not just the Moro Islamic Liberation Front that was on the role for the seccession of Moro nation, but as well as the older Moro National Liberation Front led by Nur Misuari, whose organization during the time in the year 2013, when one of their factions attempted to secede by besieging Zamboanga City, as a way to proclaim the Bangsamoro Republik. This rebellion from two organizations came to a cease during 2019 when BARMM was ratified, that had greater autonomy than its predecessor ARMM. Funnily enough, even the leaders of BARMM oppose Duterte's calls for Mindanao Republic because the region is in need of income from the NCR (National Capital Region) for their development.

[@awkwardking3853]

Indonesia, Brunei and Malaysia are waiting to pick the fruit.

[@esense9602]

No, the first secessionist was from Cotabato I think he is a Mayor in 50s and MNLF leader Nur Misuari got the idea.

[@J.G.WredgeDLovesCloudsandStars]

@@esense9602 Ah, that Cotabato governor who goes by the name of Datu Udtog Matalam who established the 1968 Muslim Independence Movement but was later renamed to Mindanao Independence Movement to include the Christians and other non-Muslim people. Thanks for that additional information.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

@@esense9602 Senator Salipada Pendatun?

[@oscarcyber3308]

​@awkwardking3853 Indonesians and Malaysians have no interest for Mindanao. a Middle Income Malaysia would see undeveloped Mindanao as a huge burden for their country. Not to mention the massive demographic shift given Mindanao is predominantly christian and has a population the size of peninsular Malaysia. Indonesia is massive enough to not give a damn abt mindanao, its already quite far from centre Java.

[@AMACHiiBiong]

Damn. The Dutertes feel like they OWN Mindanao?

[@kasumikiku4665]

Ikr

[@justinsanchez3286]

Xinnie the Poo probably promised it to him already

[@Boy_Burak]

as to tambaloslos and company run the entire country

[@RatedR03]

Again, he was frustrated because of the recent natural disaster in the Davao Region. No secession will happen anyway.

[@RatedR03]

​@@justinsanchez3286He has limited political power, and his relations with China has soured because of the lack of Chinese infrastructure loans.

[@nctflex2067]

this is such a good explanation for all of the issues happening, thank you

[@jonnelacecodog3490]

For those who are not from Philippines, I want all you to know how clown the government we have by splitting one island to the Philippines instead of giving on more attention on more relevant societal issues!

[@donniebrasco99]

Hahaha. You are funny. You are blaming the current govt for not giving Mindanao enough attention when the current govt is not even 2 years in office? Why don't you blame Duterte, who I am sure you are supporting, who just ran the country for 6 years before this current govt? Either you are ignorant or you are a paid Duterte troll. I am inclined to think you are the latter.

[@cuteman6501]

​​@@donniebrasco99 Both of them are clown.

[@guomi821]

Incorrect, only the Former president is shouting the Mindanao secession, the current president do not give a fuck. Mindanao cannot secede unless they re-write the whole Constitution. Duterte is shouting nonsense and he is just mad because the government ain't buying it. Long story short: Mindanao will not secede from Philippines because Duterte has no power to do so, even if he collects signatures from different political clans in Mindanao.

[@user-se6fn8wv3w]

@@donniebrasco99 you didn't know what you were saying. During Duterte's time, every region, including Mindanao receives massive support in infra. So, the people of Mindanao wanted the current admin to continue the projects. However, the admin canceled every project and cut down the budgets of each city that opposed them. While in the capital, they paid troll farms, and corruption on PCSO, DSWD, DPWH, and Congress with their PI (goal is to extend the term to 20 years), by doing so they spend billions of pesos without thinking that the money they spent is from the filipino people, especially from Mindanao. So you see the root cause of the problem of why Mindanao wants to separate?

[@ZedF-vz9ph]

In the 2022 elections, the Marcos-Duterte tandem ran under a vague platform of "unity". The situation right now is ironic to say the least.

[@nghekkkk828]

It was never "vague", Rodrigo Duterte was never on board with the "uniteam" because he thinks his daughter should've ran for president instead (self interest). Why do you think he called Marcos a coke user and a "weak leader" in the first place? This unity is more so between the factions of Marcos Jr. and Sara. Simply put: just because one fails to grasp the big picture doesn't mean it's "vague".

[@oliverborromeo8460]

It's vague because unity meant nothing concrete, nothing real. @@nghekkkk828

[@zjzr08]

Gloria Arroyo made this coalition thinking the two parties would have the common fear of having an opposition candidate that would win over either if both ran as President at the same time and make them pay for their corruption IMO so she made this so they'd cover both populist base - it worked so well but didn't expect how big the power struggle would be (I feel America REALLY gave Marcos Jr. a deal sweet enough to forgo pro-China and ICC related rhetoric that was the concern when Marcos Jr. was elected IMO).

[@jerryberry5480]

Honestly, Rodrigo Duterte didn’t even care when his daughter decided to choose BBM as her running mate during the elections

[@GamingGardener]

Hindi naman si Digong tandem ni BBM iba din political party ni Inday. Saang planeta ka ba galing

[@elliotvictor1783]

arrest duterte 🤩

[@oliverborromeo8460]

Amen!

[@RVboyjunior]

This is how toxic politics is in the Philippines. The Filipinos deserve better leaders.

[@8866F]

The term limit should apply to whole extended families - once in 50 years, one family member.

[@thx500]

Very well researched and I appreciate the effort to pronounce the names of Filipinos and locations correctly. Thank you!

[@ombren6516]

This is what makes me so confused as a person who used to live in Manila. Filipinos really like democracy, but at the same time they also support the idea of family dynasties in politics, which itself is highly against the idea of democracy. There is this illogical hypocrisy going in in Filipino politics.

[@ColoniaMurder20]

you clearly have no idea about sentiment by Bisaya people in Visayas and Mindanao Region against Imperialist Manila.

[@riaqliu]

​@@ColoniaMurder20 and you clearly dont understand how precarious mindanao's situation is. Bisaya kong dako pero kung hunahunaon nimo tarong, masnindut kong mupabilin ang mindanao sa pinas. Dili kaayo developed ang mindano extractive industry (walay gamit ang natural resources kung gapundo ra anha), mas taas ang import kaysa export samot nas nilabay nga tuig (inflation) ug agriculture ra ang pinakataas nga export (gamay revenue kung agriculture/mineral extraction-based economy compared sa manufacturing-see singapore/south korea), sure sad ko nga maguba ang taxation ug social welfare system (meaning mas mutaas jud na taxes or kundi, mag austerity measures mo-bye bye SSS/philhealth/gov insurance benefits), mas musamot ang mga terrorista ug npa sa mindanao (wala nay AFP mutabang ninyo + mas taas ang budget kilangan para maghimo ug tarong nga military, i.e., most likely ma militarist state na ang mindanao and mas grabe taxes unless pundohan sa china/russia in exchange for mindanao sovereignty) and lastly, gamay ray mutabang ug murecognize nga country sa mindanao kung musecede gani thanks to phil gov denying statehood (tho maybe china mutabang pero vassal state na ang mindanao ana, virtually tanan industries controllado nas china) Grabe ra kaayo ka luoy jud ang mindanao, mas luoy pas sudan or myanmar. Please lang ko intawn, hunahunaa tawon ang long-term kung padayunon na ayaw lang ang karon.

[@parasatc8183]

To academics who research Philippine politics this statement is like saying water is wet. Unfortunately many Filipinos have no choice but to vote for dynasty candidates on the ballot since they're generally the only people the COMELEC can judge to be able to afford political campaigns.

[@Name-uv6kz]

@@parasatc8183 nah it's because the majority is too ignorant when it comes to politics and they get attracted to politician wit just the tiniest offer of money.

[@RatedR03]

You need to understand how frustrated Duterte is because of the recent natural disaster that affected his home province. No secession will happen, and political dynasties can collapse when they produce bad leaders. Look at the Aquinos, their political power has dramatically decreased. Singapore and Japan are examples of nations with entrenched political dynasties that managed to government quite well.

[@pfguy.]

as a filipino that lives in the mindanao. We like Duterte and Marcos but them arguing to the point of the whole mindanao “leaving” is just insane. We do not want to leave the country not just from the protection,economy,or terrorists taking advantage of the newly seceeded weak nation. But communication and families living in Visayas or Luzon. Duterte’s tried decision of making mindanao leave is an awful horrendous idea.

[@pinoyclasico8932]

I'm from Mindnao and NO we don't want to seperate from the Philippines.

[@alloallie]

Filipino here. Well, I expected the UniThieves...uhm,. Uniteam to split up, but this --- wow. Didn't expect that.

[@alloallie]

@Zentsuuki You mean my actual job where I earn very well ? You're probably just projecting because, well..no comment 😛

[@20_foot_burmese_pyth0n]

​@Zentsuuki pakisabi kay bbm na tamad

[@blaximperia]

Don’t immediately believe this rift, it could all be just for show. To distract us from something far more evil.

[@user-mj8zf4qq7u]

Watak watak 😂 Yung mga tga south kasi maka pro China. While si Junior ay pumapalag sa mga master ni Duduts 😂 Galit na galit tuloy si GongDee and sons baka di na mag send ng bonus pay ang mga tiga Beijing 😂

[@MM0528]

@@alloallie these people are hurt to the core when you say that the uniteam are unithieves

[@carlosandleon]

Unlikely - high Cebuano speaking population in Mindanao.

[@minecraft111web]

Yeah and there is more christians than muslims in mindanao and the muslims dont want to seperate

[@ColoniaMurder20]

not to mention we successfully assimilated Lumad people in Mindanao Region. those Lumads will follow our lead.

[@parasatc8183]

Maayong adlaw kaubang Bisaya. I agree. It would make more sense for Visayas and Mindanao to split together from Luzon than for Mindanao to split from the rest of the country. Most of Mindanao has essentially been Cebuanized and in some parts Hiligaynonized, and even descendants of Iloko settlers don't know how to speak Iloko anymore lol.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

@@parasatc8183 Sultan Kudarat still has a sizeable amount of Ilocano speakers

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687]

​@@parasatc8183 It's economically doesn't makes sense with the current situation in Visayas and Mindanao's poor economy

[@USSFFRU]

The Philippines needs to stick together. If there's anything this country needs, splitting is not one of them.

[@user-se6fn8wv3w]

why stick when the root cause of the problem is the capital? the problem has existed for decades but there were no plans at all if the president came from Luzon. Duterte started to change it by boosting the infra all over the Philippines, but they discontinued it because of their greediness for money and power. So, why Mindanao would stick? It was confirmed when BBM came to power that if the president were from Luzon, Mindanao wouldn't receive or get lesser support from the capital. So, better if Mindanao separated so that we could enjoy the fruit of our labor and the fat of the land by ourselves.

[@christiankarlbernardo7465]

I'm a filipino from mindanao and hell NO I'm not agreed to this kind of crap. Philippine government right are becoming a circus with this kind of people. They're just wasting the funds and tax of ordinary filipino people. 😢

[@OrionTails]

Who would've known that removing your biggest enemy is also your biggest mistake.

[@ChiekoGamers]

Unity na nga lang ang plataporma, di pa magawa

[@jahhh8456]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@hisoka3516]

Unity peru di naman sinabing UNITY FOREVER 😅

[@winzyl9546]

Bahala na basta unity daw bobotohin.

[@mackyme001]

I'm from Mindanao and I'm against the Secession plan.

[@raikey2176]

He became the president for 6 years and he only thought of the Mindanao secession when he's out of office and now just a citizen.

[@ashaide]

You have to understand that Rody Duterte is only making these noises as part of his usual self-serving agenda. Note the episode's mention of the MILF and the Bangsamoro region. That's a recent development and follows the failure of the earlier MNLF (Moro National Liberation Front, the older Moro separatist rebellion the MILF came from) led Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao (ARMM). It's telling that the Bangsamoro leadership told Duterte to shut up. Davao City is not part of either because it, and many of the non-Moro regions of Mindanao, were products of a massive migration program of Ilocanos and Bisaya by the elder Marcos (the Sr) to destroy the power base of the Moros of Mindanao. I guess ol' Ferdie learned the same lesson John Pershing did about the most effective way to deal with the Moro secession wasn't (just) through armed struggle. Mindanao, despite being the homeland of the majority of Filipino Muslims, is largely non-Muslim territory now. NEVER have the non-Muslim areas of Mindanao called for secession from Manila. And on top of all that, the 1990s-era Local Government Code ceded much of the development roles to local governments, from Governors down. Yes, use of tax revenues is (strangely) not devolved, but local officials DO control the development of their regions. Manila holds the purse strings, but those can be loosened without resorting to... extralegal means. Besides, each of the Mindanao provinces have representatives in Congress in Manila. So what "failing" is Duterte talking about? The development of Mindanao is as much in the hands of their local leaders as it is with whoever sits on the throne beside the stinky Pasig in Manila. Aside from casting aspersions on Manila, shouldn't he also take to task his fellow regional leaders? After all, his Davao City is a showcase of development, right? The country's biggest metropolis by land area. It was even featured prominently in the anime Gundam: Hathaway. This isn't to defend Marcos, Jr. It really is all about the aborted intramurals between the two families in the runup to the faraway 2028 national elections, and Duterte's impending date with the Tribunal over his horrid drug war. Also, of course the Marcoses would side with Washington. They owe America for preventing their family suffering the same fate as the Mussolinis. So this also probably is a proxy war between Beijing and Washington; we all know whose Manchurian Candidate Rody Duterte was.

[@donniebrasco99]

Great comment

[@DOT107]

I'd also like to input that Mindanao, although lower index compared to its sisters(Luzon, Visayas) is actually gaining traction for contractor companies. Its a slow climb with all the rebel shit going on but a progress nontheless. Duterte's Secession talk will literaly push out all the current investors willing to build businesses there.

[@ashaide]

@@DOT107 So great to hear that Mindanao is getting much needed investment. So much untapped potential there.

[@roy1299]

From your reference to murican icons, you sure just as hell as from luzon that only knows the murican side of philippines.

[@renzofamine8741]

How about, no?

[@dihexa7256]

Literally every person I know who has ever been to Mindanao has warned me to never go there

[@firefirefire3277]

Yep. We already have too many people here that cities are starting to become overcrowded and traffic. That's why we discourage some people.

[@larrysevilla6309]

a big NO. it is NOT even discussed here in Mindanao. Working at NorthEast Mindanao, my residence is in the South. try to take a survey, big chance it's more than 90% NO. Philippines is a highly centralized country.

[@StarReveurMA]

Short answer: No.

[@YourMomNDad]

in the previous campaign period, the platform of the Marcos-Duterte regime was unity. But it seems the culture of powergrabbing and greed is cemented in the Philippines.

[@justinsanchez3286]

They knew that their voting base was the same, so running for the same seats would just split the votes. It was UNITY... until they got in the door, after that it's a free for all

[@Hook1229]

No decent or educated Filipino will take their politicians seriously..They are a bunch of power hungry clowns empowered by their brainless loyalists and supporters😂

[@randomly_random_0]

It's only Duterte group that wants to stay in power

[@DOT107]

Duterte was never part of the Unity team iirc, it has always been Sarah. Even during election they had disagreement betweent father and daughter.

[@postmasterpenny135]

I sincerely believe the politicians are intellectually incapable of pulling it off.

[@neldaleda2409]

Of course . its a big NO to split our beloved country.

[@45641560456405640563]

No. Not a question raised. Next.

[@HandleYourLifeGoOutSide]

Im a filipino and i will say we will not split apart

[@cream422]

That's what she said

[@TheFlagUnit]

Then why are you supporting Taiwan???

[@st-6837]

​@@TheFlagUnitwhats wrong supporting the Real China?

[@EpicGamerist]

​@@TheFlagUnitWhy do you care much if we support Taiwan? We have our sovereignty. No other country can dictate us on our decisions

[@OGTr1ck23]

​@@TheFlagUnityou are literally fool. Taïwan is the real China not the commie one

[@allenjoshuagevero9434]

As someone who lived in mindanao, the splitting of mindanao with the rest is utterly dumb.

[@vthings001]

As much as I want to criticize the Philippines for their politics, I then recall the front-runners of the US election and find I should probably keep quiet.

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

I think the talk of secession are all hot air. All loud squacks of a corrupt political dynasty, trying to remain relevant and look strong. Splitting up when those regions are experiencing high poverty with limited social netting would only bring disaster and easy exploitation. If not by regional power hungry oligarchs, but by foreign threats with their own goals.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

Ultimately the Philippines and Mindanao should never have been merged in the past. But alas, splitting it up with the current people in power will not really solve a lot. Neither will be capable of getting the corruption under control.

[@GianDaEastRoman]

Abraham Lincoln once said; "A house divided, cannot stand."

[@canonicalvantage1186]

20-30 years ago separation of Mindanao was already a common talks even among ordinary citizens but throughout the years were not sure how this is to be achieved. Now that politicians are taking the lead, this highly could happen

[@knightshade6232]

hehehe im from MINDANAO,,, and i do not support the separation, he just want it to save his a$$

[@engr.reyes3]

Exactly, and all of his regarded supporters are deluding themselves thinking that they would survive

[@knightshade6232]

Im not againts Digong he still a great president ...but thinking of separating mindanao will not solve the problems of the mindanaoans

[@RatedR03]

He is just frustrated because of the natural disaster in the Davao Region because the national government's response. No secession will happen.

[@timotheeodelliosumin957]

Talaga ba??

[@Dragstersol]

We are from Manila and we started a business (construction trades) in Davao just before Duterte winning the 2016 election. We were expecting for Davao’s economy to grow exponentially because the president is from Davao but sadly, it didn’t happen. Dont get me wrong here, there was growth but it was mild. Then covid-19 happened. I think Dutertes intention was good but he under-performed, made mistakes and doesn’t want to own it. At least he was a real man, and didn’t sit on a wheelchair. 😂 If only Miriam Defensor Santiago was healthy….

[@allanbernabe38]

For the record, Duterte not only used Fentanyl as a medical pain reliever. Duterte actually bragged about ABUSING the Fentanyl drug in illegal ways. Which brings to mind that a supposed "motorcycle accident" was just a made up excuse. Considering he does not really know how to ride motorcycles anyway. At least not a an expertly or well-experienced way. Usually finding it difficult to balance on two wheels even for just a few meters, and eventually switched to 3-wheeled bike.

[@badluck5647]

If he can't ride a motorcycle well, then wouldn't a motorcycle accident be likely?

[@allanbernabe38]

@@badluck5647 he can just fall off a stationary motorcycle. But that won't warrant the use of Fentanyl.

[@badluck5647]

@@allanbernabe38 The motorcycle can crush your leg if you aren't careful. But I do agree that fentanyl is probably too potent for such an accident. My grandfather didn't get prescribed it until his 7th back surgery.

[@aychemara]

His son is a drug dealing triad member, and hangs out with Toto Villavicencio of Flying V. They both are coke addicts. DueDirty also does coke, so he is a typical commmmy hypocrite CCP LOVING bacla.

[@jadeasereht4638]

Interesting, do you have a source? I’m interested in reading.

[@BuckleNuckle]

It's true that PH constitution is not friendly to foreign investors. I agree with Marcos as long as he doesn't tamper with presidential term limit.

[@curiousmonty]

As a Filipino, Mindanao didn't even became better or developed during Duterte's administration as well.

[@drunkpervertedmonk]

now I need a blooper reel for this, in particular, 7:20. 😂 I am just sure they made retakes for this. 😆

[@jan6258]

We had the opportunity to vote for someone who would have dedicated herself wholeheartedly to serving the people. But the people chose this.

[@wile123456]

The nepotism daughter from the dictator family or are you refering to someone else?

[@SOCNV]

Wholeheartedly how? Your msg was shit form the start

[@mixmaster1905]

@@wile123456 he meant leni robredo... literally one of the known none insane presidential candidate

[@ZedF-vz9ph]

Add Leni to the long list of "ones that got away" for the Philippines.

[@ChiekoGamers]

31 million idiots voted for a College drop out, drug addict and a tax evader

[@TenTen-ty4lq]

This wouldn't happen if Tiktok just made factual information about presidential candidates. The cocaine of nostalgia and authoritarianism was so high for Marcos/Dutertes 😂

[@johnmanuel9771]

ANSWER is NO. ‼️ PRRD style of communication to make his point clear ‼️

[@DefNotAiko]

For one thing, It's nice to be a fence sitter in this spat lmao

[@buttxrontoast-7100]

As an Indonesian (Indonesia is a nation to the south-west of Ph), not surprised if we do the same too

[@thematthew761]

Prabowo is all but certain to win

[@abrqzx]

Secession of Mindanao will never happen because even the minority Muslim community doesn’t want to secede. Duterte wants secession of Mindanao because he wants to avoid the ICC for his drug war that killed 30,000 people. And the majority of the population of Mindanao is 90% Christians and only 10% are Muslims

[@buttxrontoast-7100]

@thematthew761 Praying that man does not win. The Jokowi crisis is absolutely mental, and I'm fine with anyone but Prabowo, who has made discrimination-provoking remarks in the past (not uncommon in Indonesia, I just want our value of unity to stand).

[@thematthew761]

Imagine Jokowi picked literally anyone else to succeed him@@buttxrontoast-7100

[@OuroBoros-px7df]

​@@buttxrontoast-7100 Prabowo won by more votes... though? y'all just straight up copied 2016 Philippines elections

[@arando689]

The fact it took 9 minutes covering 4 separate issues to contextualize a comment from an infamously incoherent man says a lot about our political class and their lack of focus on actual issues facing the public (continued inflation, PUVMP backlash, failing education system, etc)

[@CzechsTeaNine]

As Mindanaoan. We don't want to separate from the Philippines.

[@Helios1001]

I heard about Mindanao on TikTok wanting to separate. I hope the Philippines stays together!😔

[@jan6258]

No one in Mindanao wants to separate from the Ph

[@JunBermz]

Only Duterte’s fanatics in Davao want to follow him. Mindanao has no strong leader. Duterte, as a Mindanaoan, had the chance to uplift the lives of Mindanao but it didn't happen. He is a pro-China. Filipinos hate China’s bullying in the Philippine Sea. I was born and raised in Mindanao and served there in the Army. I don’t want Mindanao to separate from the Philippines.

[@ethanwells4486]

@@jan6258 i'm from mindanao and there's a lot of people here who want to separate

[@watermenlon3617]

@@ethanwells4486 leaders from mindanao dont even support separating except former president duterte and his associates.

[@jan6258]

@@ethanwells4486 And I'm from Bukidnon and no one I know takes this drama seriously

[@mnizammasood]

You just made a video if Myanmar would split. Now you make a video if PH would split. 😂 As an ASEAN and neighbour to PH, I hope that PH will stay strong and united. Last year PH just became the fastest growing economy in the region and will soon catching up to other neighbouring countries. I wish PH the best of luck. 😀

[@ColoniaMurder20]

it will probably split.. if current government keep doin what they wanted. we Bisaya people have enough against Imperialist Manila.

[@ombren6516]

I understand that even people from northern Luzon don't like the idea of Metro Manila absorbing all the economic benefits that the other provinces desparately need.

[@riaqliu]

​@@ColoniaMurder20 grabeha ka ignorante ba diay ninyo no? samut na ning mga taga davao nga uto2 sad. tuo ninyo nga mahimo mog singapore inig secede ninyo? atay lang ka luoy ba ninyo mas mahimo pa mog myanmar kung padayunon na ninyo. unsaon man ta na inyong mga signature to self-determinism sa UN kon wlay UN members mu acknowledge ninyo tungod sa ph gov? saon man ta na inyong natural resources kung walay mu invest ninyo para resource extraction/development. sus! kagamay raba sa mga mindanao-based companies nga niexist para mu fund ninyo... aw ang mindanao gov ray mu fund ana? aha mana nila kuhaon? sa kwarta nga gibudol anha sa davao nila duterte? luoya nalang ninyo kung mudecide nga mag austerity mo; wala nalang sa inyo version sa SSS/philhealth/social welfare, goodluck sa mutaas nga taxes ninyo kung naa man gani. saon man sad na nga agriculture ra inyo pinakataas nga export (tanawa inyo trade balance, mastaas import kaysa export bayang lamia inflation ana). grabeha ka pobre ba ninyo kung paduyunon na ninyo, maluoy mo tawon sa inyong mga kaugalingon.

[@labra6969]

​@@ColoniaMurder20 lol, as a bisaya I say keep coping my friend coz I sure do love having this "Imperial Manila" lording over us. Besides, why trade Manila for fucking Davao. Blaming "Imperial Manila" will never solve the problems that are inherent in our society.

[@bonbonbonbons]

@@ColoniaMurder20 Lol. That's like shitting your pants and then blaming the chair.

[@faintsmile363]

haven't paid a lot of attention to the current news in our country, thanks for making this vid

[@crazyhussar]

What a show. Duterte: "secession". Mindanao residents: "no". Islamic separatists: "no". Rebels: "no". Dude is about to strengthen unity

[@cgt3704]

This reminds me of Crusader Kings. One noble of mine tried to seceede from my kingdom and i had to fight him

[@TheLarkResending]

If TLDR was the only news source you watched, you'd be under the impression that, at any one time, about half of the planet was on the verge of political dissolution.

[@parasatc8183]

As a Filipino I agree. I'm in university and I interact with Mindanaons on a daily basis. On the ground we either don't care or we're just laughing it off.

[@DennisRevy]

TLDR is just as bad as media right now in blowing news out of proportion

[@Hwje1111]

Finally.

[@hailgerald2060]

Whatever Tatay Digs motives, I am not fan nor a supporter of this secession as a bisaya. I'm a proud Filipino.

[@YuriVolzumaru]

As a filipino who live in the Visayas, I refuse to split my country, this is like from NK ( North Korea ) and SK ( South Korea ). 😢

[@enriquehartmann8642]

Ha! The acronym spells M.I.L.F ! 😂

[@richardursua7332]

lol. Funny but this one predates the American Pie slang.

[@leonardo_chiste]

Tldr news lately: "will **insert country** split apart?" 😂

[@life_is_a_myth]

It doesn't matter. Mindanao is a tear-ist state. Luzon and Visayas would be better off without it.

[@doodskie999]

Im from Davao City but I dont support this idea. Though I wish Mindanao will get more support rather than all of the budget always going in luzon. We dont even have expressways or trains here which this is a pretty big land area