Minecraft's Most Controversial Update - Beta 1.8

[@torbypical]

Honestly, the concept of "continental terrain" would really work well if they added it back and made the oceans a more reasonable distance. Nowadays there's more land than there is ocean, and looking at a world map 90% of the oceans feel more like lakes compared to the amount of solid land.

[@archimagirus_sancti]

+1

[@darth3911]

I think it would especially be good now sense when the game first had continental terrain the oceans had no structures to find in them and they had no plant life or mob life besides squids in them now we have multiple ocean biomes different types of ocean plants and fish then there’s shipwrecks and monuments and if they add more to oceans in a continental terrain update the players would be more appreciative of it.

[@mrbruh_officalvevo]

Fancy seeing you here lol

[@jaypab]

It would be kinda cool if it was like how Civ does generation, where you can select different world generation options like "archipelago", "continents", or "pangea"

[@torbypical]

@@mrbruh_officalvevo hey lol

[@oatmongen4263]

Most controversial update was when Pigmen stopped dropping porkchop. Oh the inconvenience!

[@tearlach47]

I'm glad the Nether Update brought that back in the form of Hoglins. If I spend enough time in the Nether, I could genuinely use that as my main food source. Edit: I said piglins the first time when I meant hoglins.

[@_baseplate]

@@tearlach47 piglins don't drop porkchops

[@JustARegularNerd]

@@_baseplate Sean probably meant Hoglins, but his point still stands. You can use hoglins as a primary food source in the nether, much like the old versions had pigmen as your primary source of food.

[@1ups_15]

or when they were renamed as "zombified piglins" and retextured

[@ARandomSpace]

@Just a very humble and honest human Most gamers. I can speak from experience that Minecraft is great.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

You just have to appreciate how Mojang listened to feedback and tried their best to improve the game update by update.

[@AnnaSue81]

u n l i k e v a l v e

[@Thiscooldude123]

hi guy

[@apexgoblin]

How u here already

[@rancidblock5615]

1.11, 1 year for 12 colored blocks

[@zelo101]

baba booey

[@SignedDiamond]

You barely touched on bows. The change from an auto fire “gun” to a slow pullback with variable distances was insane at the time.

[@Ardith_Prime]

I remember that and how much it cha he’d ranged combat.

[@itsvmmc]

Oh I totally forgot about that one. Yeah, they added that feature when literally no one asked for it.

[@kpsiex]

@@itsvmmc Notch was planning to add it, nobody had to ask for it

[@IAm-zo1bo]

That was a good change idc what you say

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@kpsiex Cuz people want the most broken things to stay just because it's how it used to be

[@cabooey2905]

the most controversial change in MC history is removing steves death and damage sounds

[@WizardBrandon]

i kinda agree. i miss those sounds. but im guessing it was done to make dying sound more gender neutral? idk.

[@johnwest6690]

@@kingofnorthdakota simple fix, alex skins have a female grunt... (Edit: Or just have the option for a male or female grunt in your skins screen. Maybe a gender neutral one too:?)

[@elgatorock2321]

@@johnwest6690 what if u dont have steve or alex skin? choosing your death sound would be stupid

[@johnwest6690]

@@elgatorock2321 No there's a setting for alex skin or steve skin, regardless of your actual skin.

[@elgatorock2321]

@@johnwest6690 isnt that just an aesthetic setting? i mean, alex has thinner arms than steve changing it doesnt mean anything at all, i can use a creeper skin with thinners arms, it would be weird if it made a female grunt

[@JakeP2013]

I'm one of the weirdos that really liked the concept of the "continental" generation with large oceans, it would be really interesting to see an attempt to bring that back now that oceans have much more going on, at least as a world type option.

[@Max128ping]

I like the continental ocean. Just wish it wasn't that big.

[@MonkeyShark]

@                                                 ø I really want a looped world type lol, I'd be cool to have like 4 continents spawn and then you can just build a ton of stuff and loop around when you walk to the edge of the map

[@Toadthefungi]

I agree!

[@Xerain]

When the Update Aquatic was announced i was so excited and returned to the game expecting to find these massive lush oceans. Only to find oceans didn't exist any more.

[@Graknorke]

I think the issue is that it just created the one continent with a massive ocean around it. would be better if there were at least multiple large continents surrounded by water so you know you're not just sailing into the endless forever

[@iDeactivateMC]

I loved the world generation in Beta 1.7.3, it was so random and amazing!

[@connrr2]

cool

[@carbonlollipop]

i loved it

[@Jay2480]

agreed

[@ZeroDiamond]

Why did i read this in my head with your voice :/

[@BanDit49_]

true beta terrain was interesting

[@zachb1706]

They should have increased ocean sizes after the aquatic update. It feels more like a collection of small lakes

[@Fummy007]

It does feel like a bunch of seas yes. very sad

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

I think they should have made all oceans deep instead of only some ocean having a hidden cave.

[@kitfisto6345]

As cool as aquatic update is, they still havent introduced new ways to travel on water more effective than a boat. Its cool at first until its just hours of press w on keyboard.

[@TheCoolSuperPea]

@@kitfisto6345 Spam Riptide Trident: Bruh

[@charKT-7461]

@@kitfisto6345 Dolphin's Grace with Depth Strider III

[@Blakbox92]

Having the option of continental generation would be cool, as long as the ocean sizes aren't as ridiculous as they were.

[@RazeRaze420]

I Agree id love if you could spawn on an island same sized as a xbox 360 world. I started in beta 1.5 in 2011 however I felt that xbox 360 world sizes made your world feel better as everything was in a small area and building made your builds feel larger and you knew your world off by heart

[@JefferyEpstien911]

Boats are also like 2.5x faster than they once so travel times would be much less. Its so disappointing zooming out of a Minecraft world and seeing oceans that look like lakes.

[@astratheboop]

especially in survival multiplayer servers!

[@PecsaV]

I agree, the only problem i saw with those oceans were boats, now that they are fixed i think its time to bring them back.

[@PecsaV]

And i would also add an option to make the old end generation, although i think im alone on that one.

[@DonutLIVE]

I still remember all the jokes that came about after this update released. "What's next, a thirst bar?" As for world generation, I really hope they bring back some of the old (now removed) biomes from pre-beta 1.8. I just really love the shade of green Minecraft used to have back then. Especially in rain forest biomes. Awesome video!

[@maribethquito8409]

1.18

[@Praecantetia]

They were really pretty weren't they?

[@sarsaparilla_strap]

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who loved the old green color of grass. It was a bit more vibrants and suits it well in my opinion.

[@breadheadop5397]

Bro when you said what’s next a thirst bar it brought back so many memories fam

[@jilli_bea]

Well theres texture packs or shaders you could use for the colors

[@datechnoman2]

That ladder update in one of the betas had to be the most controversial. Remember when we had 1 block gaps between ladders and could still climb? That update fixed that and I thought I was going to be stuck in the mineshaft that I dug for myself. I was lucky to had enough blocks to get my ass out of there.

[@jessehunter362]

oh god it was horrid.

[@tearlach47]

If you remember the short period when release version 1.1 was out, ladders lost their solid hitbox of ~3 pixels wide. You could no longer stand on top of them, just like vines. I think that was reverted as soon as 1.2.

[@Isaacfess]

Man I remember that update.

[@hsf150]

:)

[@Statusinator]

@@tearlach47 This was the true ladder controversy I remember from that time. It temporarily removed parkour from the game and ruined countless adventure maps.

[@cat-san4669]

Imagine another update related to world generation where they add archipelagos, big lakes, big beaches, volcanic islands/ volcanos, atolls and trenches, would be super cool

[@kpsiex]

My dream would be for them to add volcanos, super deep ocean biome, some birds that fly in the sky because the sky feels empty without birds, maybe even a canoe? and the last thing they could add is maybe ant mobs, they should be the size of bees, and they can have their own nest which they come out of, the practical use of ants, however, that is up to mojang to figure out if they ever plan on adding something like that.

[@cat-san4669]

@@kpsiex true man

[@hexagonist23]

@@kpsiex It's actually up to you. You can create it yourself by creating a mod.

[@randommonkey4900]

That would be cool

[@e14ee]

Terraformed with Biomes O Plenty

[@mix3k818]

I still remember the days before beta 1.8. How can I forget machine gun bows?

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

Same lol.

[@kingvadanite1816]

Install a hacked client and toggle fastbow

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

@@kingvadanite1816 Isn't the same.

[@higueraft571]

@@kingvadanite1816 Hacked clients are for clowns or 2b2t players, ngl. Just use a mod...

[@miweneia]

i recently made a world on 1.7.3 just out of nostalgia of the bow, but... machine gun bows kinda REALLY sucked - almost no range and because you can't charge to deal more damage you would waste tons of arrows in no time

[@channymc]

i just fall in love with the lighting system of beta 1.7.3, i hope they can add them back to minecraft, maybe into the options setting

[@capybara9521]

Sadly updates doesn't mean better

[@channymc]

@@dafinition yea, but i mean that beautiful grayscaled lighting from the beta not the yellow/orange in later versions

[@cacohat]

@@channymc There's an Optifine resource pack that does that I think.

[@justsomerandompersononthei2595]

@Just a very humble and honest human Says the one replying on a comment about Minecraft on a MINECRAFT channel.

[@shogun6536]

@@justsomerandompersononthei2595 relax mate he's a bot

[@laikataz4658]

I like the ocean biomes a lot if there's islands here and there. It has an exciting feel to cross the open waters and build on a small island.

[@DaBiggestBoi]

petition to add a "continental" world type with island biomes

[@capybara9521]

Mods my friend

[@KENNYd04360]

@@DaBiggestBoi Yes, for an real ocean !

[@catandcomparator]

@Just a very humble and honest human I think the thing that is $#*% here is your opinion.

[@xXcangjieXx]

No the oceans were too large. I remember one time listening through Pink Floyd’s whole The Wall album before reaching new land!

[@Ihasnotomato]

I remember when this update came out, none of my friends really liked it, but one friend in particular hated the hunger bar so much he dropped the game and hasn't come back to it since. He just really hates the idea of having to keep an eye on the hunger and keeping on top of it, even though now it's easier than ever to manage. Reguardless, to this day he won't play it.

[@infectioushazard0]

Your friend is being rather.. petty. If you think about it, the hunger bar barely changes anything. Minecraft is a game about exploring and adventuring, one simple feature like that isn’t going to make anything different at all. It’s easy to get food as well, therefore, as I have stated many times, one simple feature like the hunger bar won’t change anything.

[@gagec6390]

@@infectioushazard0 but the hunger bar doesn’t really add anything either. It only serves to make the game easier by added regen and being annoying to upkeep

[@infectioushazard0]

@@gagec6390 As I said, there’s literally animals everywhere in Minecraft, and unless you’re in a desert or something, it shouldn’t be that hard to keep up with. Villages exist, as well. They commonly have crops there, so again it shouldn’t be much struggle to get food. If you don’t like the hunger bar update, though- then all you really have to do is play on a version before it was updated to that. Simple.

[@gamesuarx]

@@gagec6390 It's called surviving? It is survival mode.

[@mftripz8445]

Game probably became too hard for his smoothbrain to handle 🤣

[@noxmore]

I'm really glad they are removing biomes directly controlling the height map in 1.18, i feel like it really adds the character back in that we haven't seen in a while.

[@daytona9041]

i remember being really really happy when this update came out because they added creative mode and trying desperately to get it working cuz this was before the launcher was any good lmao

[@benjamincoram7036]

pretty sure creative came out well before 1.8 but correct me if I'm wrong.

[@AiOinc1]

There was a mod that existed to give the abilities of creative in B1.6 and B1.7

[@ibrasome4492]

@@benjamincoram7036 Yes, it came out before 1.8 but not beta 1.8

[@justsomerandompersononthei2595]

@Just a very humble and honest human I don't think you're contributing ANYTHING to society either.

[@dougz201]

@Just a very humble and honest human thanks for the contribution Anyways

[@mikelv1]

I remember when Pocket Edition got this update. I personally thought it was awesome since the Nether was also added, but I remember seeing one certain one star review that was confused at the “Ketchup Corndogs” at the top of their screen.

[@Jfxkxdvrvr]

I remember waiting months for the nether reactor to come out. Then the first day it comes out I spawned it in my house and it wiped out everything :(

[@KiraSlith]

"Ketchup Corndogs", I LOVE that name for the hunger ham hocks.

[@velocity_raptor]

Now I finally know why I never got frustrated at ocean travelling after 2013 again! Never thought the large oceans actually were a bug. Funnily enough, in modern versions I kinda miss having large oceans because of continents XD

[@thereallyrealplayer]

I was 50-50 on that. Before I knew Minecraft was multiplayer, I didn’t like living on a 200x200 mass of sand with one mountain and one dead bush in the middle of an ocean spanning over 2.1 million blocks before finding a spike in the water. After I learned it was multiplayer, and the small world problem was gone, I enjoyed the traveling more, but then I started to miss the single ocean continents, and I can’t even play them on the newer versions without serious bugs, lag, and more issues.

[@psivewri]

I remember being confused by the hunger bar when it was first introduced!

[@lukesteiner8934]

checkmark!

[@Praecantetia]

Same here! Had to watch a let's play when it came out

[@tcheugadias6388]

Remember when speculations began on a breath bar back in beta 1.8

[@GrapeGameplayz]

Love the content and I remember thinking "Are those chicken wings" and having no clue what they were

[@craigrobertson1629]

@@tcheugadias6388 Bro, what a throwback. XD I forgot about the Breath bar speculation

[@NethanielShade]

I started playing in beta 1.7 a couple weeks before beta 1.8 came out. I was super duper hyped for the adventure update. I was also really young and cut off from most of the community, so I didn’t hear everyone else’s gripes. I, for one, loved beta 1.8. As it was the first time a new minecraft update came out for me, I still look back on it fondly as one of my favorite minecraft versions ever. Nostalgia is weird like that

[@miweneia]

almost same for me, I started in beta 1.6.4 or 1.6.6, not too long after that, 1.8 came out and me and my friends were so fucking hyped, still remember first time playing in creative mode, building massive buildings; especially loved the quartz blocks they added, it was so new and different from what the game used to be probably didn't play much survival until release 1.0 came out with the end biome 😂 throwback to when you couldn't equip armor in creative btw

[@salam-peace5519]

For me it was similar with the 1.2 update, I started in 1.1 (February 2012) and when the 1.2 update came out it was my first update and I was excited to search for jungles and ocelots which were added in the update, I remember on the first server I played on everyone was searching for jungles and ocelots back then. Very nostalgic to remember this.

[@_i_c_]

When I first started, I only played in peaceful mode so I’d never die. So when the hunger bar was added, I got so afraid of it shaking (more specifically dying) that I deleted my world and never played survival again. Genius play. I miss those worlds now lmao.

[@_i_c_]

@Voltinax If I've got nothing else to do then parkour. Too much parkour.

[@_i_c_]

@Voltinax I'm not good either but the realm map I play on definitely makes me feel better LOL

[@LegitSiForNow]

outstanding move

[@BierBart12]

I remember doing something similar, but because dying was annoying, especially losing everything you were mining and exploring for for the past 3 hours. When they added the option "gamerule:keepInventory" I got more addicted to the game than I had ever been before

[@mygetawayart]

@Mr. House i used to be afraid of dying in videogames too when i was younger. I can't explain why, it felt a lot more personal i guess? Or maybe it's the sunk time that gets erased in a blink of an eye. All i remember is i never liked it and it scared me. Early on when i started playing MC, i wouldn't go into caves cause i was scared i'd find a random creeper and i'd die.

[@gradientgamer5480]

"Which Minecraft update do you think is the most controversial" The Current answer is 1.19.1 the Chat update

[@CaptainCamii]

Was boutta say the same thing

[@gradientgamer5480]

@@CaptainCamii LMAOO

[@gradientgamer5480]

@The Crab lets see if 1.20 will be another outrage

[@DK-tv6rk]

It's not controversial because everybody hates it

[@gradientgamer5480]

@@DK-tv6rk only a few ppl in the bedrock community like it

[@rizaltizal1462]

I remember this update being pretty controversial but the only update that tore the MC community in half was the combat update. Beta 1.8 was necessary as it fleshed out the game's features, added a lot of useful mechanics, and got the game ready for an official release. While I loved the old world generation and feel that the older versions had, Minecraft wouldn't have done as well if they stuck with the old mechanics on release. The controversy behind the combat update is a much more complicated subject that can't be explained in a comment thread.

[@mikeymladi9279]

No wonder why almost every single PVP server is in version 1.8, I guess. . Hmmm.. (I haven't played the Java Version..)

[@johnwest6690]

It didn't split the community, around 20% of people were opposed to the update (My evidence of this percentage is several polls I've seen on KZbin, the MC Forum, and twitter)

[@johnwest6690]

@Rayaan Syed And it wouldn't have splt the community at all if the combat update came back in 2012, because it would've always been part of the game. The problem is, Jeb is working hard on a new Combat update, and you lot aren't even going to give it a chance because you all just want the old system back, despite it being fundamentally bad.

[@johnwest6690]

@Rayaan Syed Because they already don't care, half of them have said if they don't reinstate spam clicking, they're staying in 1.8

[@PC_797]

@Shade Wood lol it's not? I've seen many PvP videos and it's all spam clicking. I understand spam building and ender pearl throwing that's obvious. But MC PvP is just a glorified wipe out game.

[@Macintoshiba]

I remember this. My texture pack didn't have textures for the hunger bar. I had Purple pixels jumping around and I was very confused when I lost health due to hunger...

[@PecsaV]

Haha, must have been scary!

[@narita_i]

*confused screaming*

[@GGamerLiam]

😂🤣

[@JamEngulfer]

I definitely agree with this video. While newer updates have definitely brought many improvements to the game, the old terrain just had this certain magic to it that the new one lacks. It made the whole place feel slightly otherworldly. 1.7.3 was also what I would consider the last update where the player was truly alone in the world. It FELT desolate. Updates since then have just added more and more NPCs and places and constructed things to the world and I think that’s really detracted from the feeling there was before.

[@theflatsixth]

True! Although I started playing in 1.14, I still see that you never feel lonely in a world. Personally I don't mind too much, but it's definitely a change compared to older versions that some older players might miss. Also, if you're looking for more interesting world generation, I would check out the latest 1.18 Minecraft world gen snapshots. They're not as wacky as early Minecraft, but they are much more interesting than 1.8-1.17

[@officialouieprince]

You guys are forgetting about 1.18, it’s making minecraft’s world amazing to explore again..

[@theflatsixth]

@@officialouieprince Thats what I said

[@officialouieprince]

@@theflatsixth oh whoops, I didn’t read your comment properly..

[@theflatsixth]

@@officialouieprince No problem

[@velraven8944]

I wish the continental terrain generation was an option in the settings for world loading. Especially after the ocean updates, I would love to be able to separate my worlds into continents and roleplay nations, have shipping lanes, etc. Honestly, it's been really hard to find a continent, everything is just one massive landmass with more "large lakes" than actual oceans.

[@veroncia5218]

They released the Continents mod for 1.19 or something, and it does a pretty good job at separating continents

[@wthinthecompassofman]

I remember quitting minecraft for a few years over the new terrain generation and generally feeling that they had added "too much stuff". Funny to think about now since beta feels so empty and limited. Definitely feels like a beta now, but back then it felt like the future.

[@spamkonto5507]

True! It felt like too much changes at the time.

[@Mike-sp6tt]

Same way. Only came back when they added the nether update. Really satisfied with where they took this game over the years. The world generation is the single thing that turned me off of the game for such a long gap. The biome generation was so bad I couldn’t find any beauty in my worlds at that time

[@Leos74]

I started playing on 1.5.2, and abandoned the game for a while somewhere around 1.8... getting up to date with 1.16 wasn't an easy task)

[@BalthazarB2]

@@Leos74 I've started with Alpha 1.2.6, when the Nether was first added. Been playing since then, sometimes taking breaks. Now I just mostly stick to modpacks.

[@johnwest6690]

This is exactly what's wrong with the MC community, half of you say "They don't add enough stuff quickly enough" (I lean towards this view), and the other half of you say "They are adding too much stuff it's confusing and overwhelming"

[@excalibur493]

I remember when hunger was new. The benefits heavily outweighed the drawbacks, but I still thought it was dumb. And the number of times I had an Xbox 360 world be ONLY water was enough to make me quit the game for years.

[@-._Radixerus_.-]

weak

[@BS-bd4xo]

@@-._Radixerus_.- wud

[@Randomguy-ys8yz]

@Just a very humble and honest human stupid bot.

[@fica1137]

@Just a very humble and honest human Stop being on KZbin, it's rotting your brain

[@-._Radixerus_.-]

@@riptidev10 Yes

[@Mrcake0103]

I was in the community at the time, and I recall people really fretting about endermen when they first appeared. The idea of a mob that could pick up blocks, at random, really irked me. Many players built moats around their bases to prevent Endermen from vandalizing their builds. Ultimately, this turned out to be almost a non-issue. In the 10 years since endermen were added, their propensity to pick up blocks has literally only messed up my builds once. When Minecraft first came out on the 360 a friend and I played it for hours. I remember liking the old food/health system better than the current one. Food was something you eventually had to find if you wanted to heal yourself, rather than a hinderance you had to constantly produce just to stay alive. With the old system a skilled player could actually get away with not bothering to grow any food at all! Sprinting is nice, though.

[@hellterminator]

You never played on a big vanilla server, I take it. With someone always loading them, common areas look like shit after a few months. The grass is full of holes and you keep finding random (mostly dirt) blocks placed everywhere.

[@ally9771]

@@hellterminator I think those are players not endermen

[@kevinscales]

@@ally9771 No that's endermen

[@nothingisreal6816]

@@kevinscales No, not at all. "Full of holes"? Lmao

[@Beetless]

@@kevinscales lol

[@greendude0420]

I actually like the idea of continental islands “if” we only had speedboats on day 1

[@LeoBladini]

would be cool to have a boat made with redstone parts so it goes faster

[@yeetionary]

@@LeoBladini redstone boat. just make sure to have a lot of redstone with you because the boat needs power

[@kapa_nitori]

@@yeetionary Furnace on a boat would be more realistic tbh. like how is Steve supposed to make an engine that is only 1 block in size?

[@020finnnn]

@@kapa_nitori bro your talking about a game, where a 1x1x1 log turns into 4x a 1x1x1 plank. Minecraft doesnt have logic in that way, and it doesn’t need it.

[@kapa_nitori]

@@020finnnn fair point

[@olbluelips]

The new 1.18 terrain should bring back a lot of the magic! Biomes no longer control terrain shape so the possibilies are endless

[@ThirtyVirus]

this update would have been 10x better if they made other aspects of the game more challenging to balance it, after this the game was too easy

[@Jay2480]

true Warden might fix that tho :P

[@trevorbeatz5741]

@@Jay2480 yes

[@Gman_editz]

Eyo thirtyvirus i love ur skyblock vids

[@bants5381]

Stfu u scammer, lots of ppl saw wht u did with the crochet tiger plushie for example, i used to like u

[@aksolopl]

ThirtyVirus

[@sj1productions68]

Crazy thing is that this is now the second most controversial update in Minecraft.

[@staringcorgi6475]

1.9 is more controversial because it made some servers stick to Release 1.8 but i feel that 1.19 is non controversial because everybody that played java hated the chat report system

[@drAgOnNieR]

"1.8 is the most controversial" 1.19: "hold my beer"

[@papitaslays2806]

1.20 AMATHEURS

[@xstar9567]

​@@geoffrea3 fireflies: bundles:

[@v-14415]

you forgot to add ".1" to "1.19".

[@raptorzeraora2632]

1.19.1 actually

[@v-14415]

@@raptorzeraora2632 that's what im talking about

[@alexlokanin3312]

Beta 1.7.3 will always stay in my heart. I started playing on Beta 1.6.6 and loved it. Beta 1.8 is truly the cutoff point for old minecraft.

[@Xenorvya]

After old Minecraft is there "Classic Minecraft" then? The cut off point for me between the "Classic" and "New" version is 1.6.4 - 1.9. Fuck that combat update, and everything that came after.

[@distendedmist5840]

@@Xenorvya it's 1.7 for me

[@Xenorvya]

@@tynj4173 "Cool kid."

[@Luximoz]

@@Xenorvya Yes, there is a classic Minecraft that's different than Alpha and Beta versions, check out Indev, Survival Test 0.24-0.30 and older versions which were even called officially classic. There was no nether dimension (which was added in Alpha 1.2), no infinite worlds (before the first Infdev version), on death, you had to make a new world (before it was changed in one the Infdev versions), the grass and leaves' color was sort of like a flashy light green (before Alpha 1.2) and liquids worked a lot differently before Infdev versions and could easily flood an entire world as they would spread infinitely both vertically and horizontally, unless there were blocks in the way. Classic versions only had creative mode without flying, while Survival Test versions had both creative with no flying and survival obviously and Indev versions only had survival versions

[@captainpep3]

@@Xenorvya I mean I love modern minecraft but you do you I guess

[@Specious_Seraphim]

Honestly still miss the old terrain, it's specifically how crazy everything was tho, specifically with how common overhangs and floating islands were or at least seemed for me it was scale like the monoliths, but honestly the terrain has still improved greatly and the because of this shattered savannah has become my fav biome, especially since on bedrock it has that nice beta like vibrant green similar to the jungle

[@Player-jh4ko]

yeah

[@coffeebug]

yeah i prefer old generation because i don’t like the more realistic generation of today

[@oitthegroit1297]

Personally, I find spruce, snowy spruce as well as mega taiga biomes to be my favourites, as it reminds me of where I want to live in real life.

[@Specious_Seraphim]

@@coffeebug it's nice but I style like fantasy like settings in my fantasy sandbox game

[@Specious_Seraphim]

@@oitthegroit1297 honestly they're nice I miss how common snowy spruce biomes use to be

[@SkyKiller63]

I remember being so excited for the Adventure update. Sprinting was mind blowing to me and endermen scared me so bad lol. I don’t really remember the terrain generation changes too much but I remember my first beta 1.8 build was a massive farm on the side of a mountain. I was so hyped for that update haha

[@half-dusted]

yeah I see you

[@ChromeXuGames]

I remember watching a CaptainSparklez video about sprinting and being mind-blown

[@gekotagirl]

I remember when beta 1.8 came out it definitely had mixed reviews. I loved the concept of hunger in minecraft, but I still miss carrying around 4 non-stackable porkchops as my emergency health.

[@thebillis8327]

Right? I’ve been through all the iterations of the game and every update grows on me pretty quickly. This game is fun to come back to every couple years.

[@wes4736]

Since you played this version, do you know how to back up a world to update it? I want to try this concept where I take a single world and gradually update to modern versions, and I'm started on beta 1.8. but every tutorial requires an edit button in the menu that's just not on this version.

[@MMMMMMMMARCUSSS]

Go to .minecraft and copy your world file and place it somewhere safe ​@@wes4736

[@mekb-the]

legends say that sal is still looking for an ice plains biome

[@comradestinger]

I remember after the hunger update I was a lot less afraid of falling, since as long as I had a full hunger bar, it would just heal right back up! With the way they changed it over time though, some of that fear of falling is back though. Which I think is cool.

[@luisjogos821]

Fortunately enchanting (Feather Falling) helped a bit to remove the fear of falling.

[@trigger7ff6]

different ways of dealing with broken legs in minecraft: pre-beta 1.8: shove food into your gaping maw at breakneck pace and cry about the death you could have avoided if you had more food later beta 1.8-1.9: eat one steak after around 2 minutes 1.9: eat two steak immediately

[@dfelipeg]

Funnily enough, they removed almost all variants of the same biome in the experimental snapshots, meaning the terrain is no longer tied to the biome and a lot more of crazy variation

[@matturner6890]

funnily's not a word

[@dfelipeg]

@@matturner6890 ok

[@floss5211]

@@matturner6890 it is a word

[@matturner6890]

@@floss5211 nope, it's an aphorism. "Oddly enough" or "strangely" would be correct.

[@kkmac7247]

@@matturner6890 funnily is a word

[@maslortvxd5831]

1.19.1: are you sure?

[@Ccscenario]

Imagine they kept continental oceans we would have probably have faster boats

[@Kitulous]

or even ships! hell, I want ships in Minecraft! and more walkable entities (like minecarts and boats)!

[@adrilazzaro]

Imagine valheim ships In mc

[@fenn_fren]

Sounds fun but chunk generation would definitely not keep up

[@martiananomaly]

@@Kitulous I have been wanting ships in minecraft since 2021.... So far I'm pretty disappointed.

[@dylanwfilms]

As someone who hated the post 1.8 beta world generation, i’m very excited for the caves and cliffs update. While i am a fan of the M variants of biomes added in 1.7 release, they definitely could have gone farther with them as they never did get as interesting as the beta 1.7.3 terrain, and to me it looks like this next update will finally bring the sort of terrain ive been waiting for

[@quick4719]

I remember when 1.9 first came out. An absolute firestorm that was. Can't say I blame anyone though, I despised the pvp when it came out at first too, honestly.

[@edgarvega5859]

The stone axe update

[@noisnecsa995]

I think that the new combat is better for PvE rather than PvP.

[@bradleywalton970]

I still despise 1.9 pvp

[@NOTwestpapuaball3723]

at least they add elytra which all player like

[@KingOreo2017]

@@noisnecsa995 i agree, thats why i never thought the new combat system was too bad. I think it should be changed but it works really well for PvE

[@OzMediaOfficial]

I actually remember this! Right after pistons were added.

[@breawen]

wow, surprised you're here lol

[@-force-2339]

The beaches! Man how I miss the beaches from the old beta / alpha versions of the game. Endless smooth sandy beaches on most coasts. Even if the old terrain generator had less biomes and less blocks in general, it somehow seemed to me that it all felt more random, no world felt similar to the last one you made. With the new generation, even the one in the upcoming versions, it all seems so similar. I like the new biomes but they look patched together like some kind of patchwork rug.

[@maribethquito8409]

1.18

[@-force-2339]

@@maribethquito8409 They don't look like the Alpha / early Beta beaches though

[@maribethquito8409]

@@-force-2339 well they could just make it better in the future snapshot

[@inputoutput2938]

@@maribethquito8409 yeha, I recall them making sandy beaches wider in one of the 1.18 snapshots (snapshot 3 I think), I've seen quite a few come a bit far inland. Again could always just ask them to have them extend a bit more

[@inputoutput2938]

@@-force-2339 How so?

[@Yurgen_S]

i don't really think of it as beign "controversial", but it sure was a very pivotal moment in Minecraft's history... and yes, i think 1.7.3 is the last version from the "golden era" of minecraft.

[@a.mseymour180]

No

[@arzaqqw]

People really think lack of content as a golden era so stupid

[@luisjogos821]

@@hovac. not really,i think 1.0,1.7 and the Outer End Islands on 1.9 were really good.

[@Zenith3352]

in my opinion the golden era was actually when mineplex was most popular. hypixel was there, egg wars (money wars), bed wars, and mineplex

[@gyroninjamodder]

@@arzaqqw Minecraft wasn't lacking content back then. More content does not make something better. Right now it feels like the game will never be finished with them constantly adding more and more things.

[@aylim3088]

Oh man. 13 year old me was so mad with this update, even if I couldn't say exactly why right away being a teen with no game design knowledge. Terrain compared to 1.7 was boring and flat. Every world looked the same, the new mountains were dull and lifeless with no trees and grey-green grass, oceans were stupid and unnecessarily large. I missed old seeds like glacier and 404, there was no equivalent from then on. And because the world generation was different, all of my old worlds were now broken. Biomes all in the wrong spots and new chunks clashed really badly with the old ones. Hunger was just annoying. It dropped way too fast. Sprinting was a welcome change, but having to choose between eating every 60 seconds or walking at the original speed.. yeah, not fun. At least we finally got more food options. You mentioned stacking food but before 1.8 there was no chicken, beef, melon, pumpkin pie later on, and eventually apples and cookies became easier to obtain. The only easily obtainable foods were pork, bread, fish, mushroom stew. And this was before breeding too, so no infinite pigs. Cake hardly counted. Creative mode was pretty cool, but the menu was literally just a big list of every block. Still, it was new (apart from pre indev, but yknow) so we were happy with it, but wow when the new creative menu came out, I have no idea how I dealt with the original one. I think overall, it was a decent update, but some parts just missed the mark badly. Still, I can't be too mad at it today. It was still *beta* after all, the game wasn't finished. Lots of new things in 1.8 were really cool, but others were a huge burden. Yet I can't really go back to 1.7. I'm not 13 years old any more. I've experienced it, and I'll cherish those memories.

[@maribethquito8409]

1.18 bro

[@inputoutput2938]

Thoughts on 1.18?

[@Cheesehead302]

Heh, I was a similar age when it came out. I remember feeling similar, even if I was still 100% addicted and enjoyed a lot of the other new features but just didn't want to admit it. However, I do legitametly believe my feelings on the terrain were justified; to this day I have felt the older generation is just simply more interesting, despite there barely being any kinds of biomes. On top of that, the biome coloration system further contributed (and i guess technically still does) to my dislike of it; going from the bright green grass of beta to the mucus colored "more realistic" grass/more washed out/etc that's in nearly every biome was definitely I downgrade.

[@dexgaming6394]

1.9 : I'm the most controversial Minecraft update! 1.19.1 : hold my beer

[@nathanpeck2817]

Just don’t type racist things and you won’t get banned

[@CubeDoesStuff]

i remember back when beta 1.8 dropped, me and my friends were really just hyped af and didnt mind the whole change/the hunger system was worth the sprinting when 1.9 dropped, i really hated the new combat but that was probably just hating change instead of the actual change itself wouldnt really call either of them controversial (if i had to pick, id say 1.9 was more controversial than beta 1.8)

[@Slackow]

I find it interesting that even though I start playing much later I still recognize old minecraft mechanics because I used to play pocket edition years ago, and many of the features you listed were true back then.

[@THEW0LFB0Y]

Back in 2012 I had The Xbox 360 edition and instead of being up to date with the PC edition, we had Title Updates which would slowly add more and more feature from PC to Xbox, I remember so badly wanting to have the 1.8 update on the Xbox 360, but when it finally came out on that platform, I'm not gonna lie I felt weird about it like you said in the video, it didn't feel the same. And while I certainly love Minecraft now, one of my favorite versions still to this day is the Title Update right before 1.8 got introduced which would probably be close to version Beta 1.7.2

[@ugoboom]

i started on PC in alpha, played the hell out of beta multiplayer, but then the 1.8 beta update dropped and it really ruined everything. I remember buying the xbox 360 version purely cause "OH HEY LOOK, BETA 1.7 IS BACK !!! YAY!!" but then the day inevitably came and it was sad. nowadays i play either new minecraft with CubicWorldGen, or just unmodded beta 1.7 for nostalgic feels

[@readyice2657]

@@ugoboom That is not possible, beta versions were only on pc. You're probably making confusion with release 1.8 and beta 1.8

[@Mylifesuckslol]

@Just a very humble and honest human me, you waste of breath bot

[@Mike-sp6tt]

@Just a very humble and honest human go touch some grass

[@chlorobyte_projects]

@Just a very humble and honest human You over the age of 10 and spam every reply section hating on "children's block game"?

[@KanashimiMusic]

1:32 That waste of coal is hurting me physically.

[@Keegerator]

I definitely remember being mad when they introduced 1.8 because it felt so different. But, of course it was a pretty easy adaptation in terms of gameplay and I still got to have fun with my friends so it quickly gave me that same feeling of fun :)

[@jazzyoof3076]

I remember about 7 years ago when I played Minecraft Pocket Edition, I used to be scared of traveling oceans because of how large and empty they were

[@emilhinchliff]

wow this was sooner than expected, but i'm glad you're back!!

[@rubiepie]

"So far!" - 1.19.1

[@toaster5147]

i thought he was going to talk about how sprinting apparently made the game too easy

[@constrictorz3572]

enemies should be able to move faster, that's like the only change needed to rebalance sprinting

[@luisjogos821]

You couldn't run from spiders prior to sprinting. Plus,the future boss mobs would require the player to move fast to dodge their attacks. With the old walking system,that would be near impossible.

[@constrictorz3572]

@@luisjogos821 so, the balance is to make mobs faster, or add faster mobs, easy

[@luisjogos821]

@@constrictorz3572 not really,that would kinda force the player to sprint if they wanted to escape from that mob. Sprinting was added to give the player choice: "should i fight those mobs or should i sprint back to my shelter?" Prior to sprinting you didn't had that; if you were in an dark cave full of mobs,you had to fight through it.

[@danmakuSuki]

​@@luisjogos821 Regardless of whether adding that choice was the intent, I think that kinda defeats the purpose of the monsters to begin with. I don't *want* the choice to run away, because monster's aren't threatening if I have complete control over whether I want them attacking me or not, and monsters being threatening was the entire challenge of the game. Faster monsters pls

[@enigmawhispa2661]

I remember being 11 and coming home from school and checking my cracked mc launcher to see if this update was out. My fondest minecraft memory still is playing and exploring 1.8 for the first time.

[@oren_nemrac]

Finally after 50 years of waiting, he finally uploaded a KZbin video!

[@NOTwestpapuaball3723]

no its like 100milion years lol

[@hri7566]

@H54DE Minus 48 B.C. here

[@inqyr4707]

@@hri7566 I'm literally dead. I'm a ghost watching this video

[@KevinIsNice6984]

@@inqyr4707 been a ghost since 69 A.D.

[@twilightcyber4543]

1.19.1: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@martin-gaming]

Is this the update with the report system?

[@twilightcyber4543]

@@martin-gaming Yep

[@RadiantMantra]

I personally really liked the continental world generation. Maps would've looked amazing with huge islands like that, and working with what you got is a bigger deal

[@narnianninja4964]

Yeah same! They should tone down the distance a little and add them back. Land should be surrounded by water, not the other way around

[@ninjycoon]

Nevermind. They went and did it.

[@minnalunar]

they're doing something similar

[@ninjycoon]

@@minnalunar Yeah, I saw that after I made this comment. I'm very excited.

[@kralle98]

Ive often said, Caves and Cliffs finally brought the "Mine" part to minecraft. We havent seen terrain this good since private custom plugins were made for minecraft classic back in 2009 and 2010

[@dog8438]

Caves and Cliffs definitely did imo

[@MaxSpec]

I feel like 1.9 Combat was the most controversial one. Even if it was more challenging to have a delay between attacks, it frustrated most of the people by doing so. Hunger bar and new gen from Beta 1.8 might have made it a little frustrating, it was necessary. I really hope that Mojang decides to add a switch for the combat per world (as a world setting) just like how you can disable Phantoms.

[@Boba_Fett1980]

Me too. But for now there's the mod classic combat, and you can do it without mods by looking for data packs so it's simple enough. One thing that confuses me is why bedrock never got the combat update, you'd think the combat mechanics would be the same so they switching from Java to bedrock or vice versa would be more seamless for players.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@Boba_Fett1980 I think it is because Minecraft Pocket Edition is no longer Pocket Edition but Bedrock and taping on the screen is much easier than having that cooldown. Plus imagine the combat update on phones how it will be more frustrating than on PC. And that's why even the speed bridging is better also there because of the same reason.

[@LightblueStar27]

It is sort of possible, using the command /attribute @s minecraft:generic.attack_speed base set 9999999999999999999999999999999

[@Luximoz]

Just like how it was necessary to fix the common issues with spam clicking in video games that they added in the Beta 1.8 update, before finally getting a fix in 1.9, although it wasn't very well executed unfortunately due to the lengthy fights and the hit delays being a bit too long, read my comment on this video and you'll understand why

[@PotaraP]

I really don’t get why people hate 1.9 so much. It made combat more fun instead of a spam fest and was in general more skill based

[@eliescobis9922]

1.19.1: *okay, my turn*

[@really-real-t-series-not-fake]

Chat reports update: Allow me to introduce myself

[@mirajaded]

i think 1.9 was more controversial because at least 80k players on hypixel per day still use old combat versions (me included) so 1.9 mustve been a huge game change for that to happen

[@tornadoduck]

Agreed, it was almost like a cut between casual and competitive players for some gamemodes.

[@waterpig-p]

@@tornadoduck I love how the definition of competitive pvp in minecraft is " I spam LMB faster, I win " (Also its a carpal tunnel simulator). Now 1.9 added a new nuance of actually timing your shots and later even fixed the shield issue.

[@waterpig-p]

@@pierce9104 It is true that there needs to be something a bit faster added. I already like the tradeoff between axes and swords, but adding a third weapon in would be interesting. The cave update really could've given mojang an opportunity to expand on it, but as it goes in Mojang, they won't use the chance

[@divine5099]

@@waterpig-p 1.8 pvp is so much more than spamming left click. 1.9 pvp is just who can hold right click with their shield in off-hand the longest. So much more skill is involved in old pvp mechanics and the new pvp system was just to accommodate little kids..

[@luisjogos821]

@@divine5099 not really,even though i play Bedrock i think both PVP methods have their pros and cons.

[@LiEnby]

I remember when this update came out- I remember absolutely hating the hunger system haha I liked creative mode though, at the time I had no idea how to fly haha

[@null5573]

oh hey Silica Nice to see you here

[@Mr_Owl6Plays]

1.19.1 report system, just because someone died in bedwars and get "L" in chat doesn't mean you have to report them

[@randomentity7980]

This aged like milk

[@jeffodabear]

The hunger bar was when I stopped playing

[@Caleb14409]

When did you start playing

[@SWinxyTheCat]

I honestly miss the giant oceans. The huge, vastness of it all creates a special feeling I am sad was removed...

[@IAmPainisCupcake1]

Aged like milk

[@Thundar]

U know its a good day when SalC1 uploads YAY

[@inqyr4707]

@Not RickRoll 😭👇 stop talking please

[@kiseki8351]

If I was playing Minecraft during that time the old school world generation would be the only thing I'd have missed, that stuff looks beautiful

[@BuffPluto]

Bro I remember every kid back in elementary said Minecraft was too hard because they added a hunger bar in Minecraft Pocket Edition 😂😂😂

[@diannhershberger74]

Welp this statement didn’t hold up well

[@Yaveton]

I remember it. Was playing peacefully on my b1.7.3 world, enjoying newly added pistons. One day I logged off and left the game for a month. I came back to the sight of endermen and hunger bar. This was something else...

[@MattDoesNothing]

I like the idea of the continental thing. But it could be made as a mode with some ship building so you won’t be bored traveling.

[@pink1536]

Most controversial, yet....

[@genzboomer]

b1.8 and 1.9 just got blown out of the water.

[@ironic.]

Every biome generating like Extreme Hills is something I miss about older versions of Minecraft

[@enzochoi923]

hey guys I think we've found a more controversial update...

[@staringcorgi6475]

Just because people got upset doesn’t make it controversial. Everyone in the mc community was upset that the update under delivered what was promised like the birch forest updates, and fireflies

[@stealywheelyautomobiley7565]

honestly i really enjoy the 1.9 changes because it's a lot more interesting in PVE, what the game was originally designed for and around. i get the PVP complaints though.

[@Brent-jj6qi]

The PvP complaints are dumb, 1.9 is less exploits and less lag/bugs and more skill

[@DomzyDX]

Yes because adding a delay timer to attacking is adding skill. No this doesnt take any more skill obviously. Its just annoying and a nuisance. Whoever thinks this adds skill is a moron.

[@Brent-jj6qi]

@@DomzyDX it means you have to time your hits, decide if you wanna do a weaker hit or a longer stronger hit, and means you don’t have to spam click like a brain dead zombie

[@J09-555]

1.19.1 after seeing this:

[@vffgddhbvv5047]

Now, it's 1.19.84

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

1.19.84 takes the cake now

[@Nepu_Nep]

I remember getting into the game in 1.7 beta and after getting used to arrow spam, 1.8 coming out and bows becoming even better with the extended range and increased damage

[@mikeylarsen5627]

Oh how this aged so badly

[@staringcorgi6475]

I disagree bc everybody hated the chat report system

[@GandalfGreyhame]

This could be because I was a little kid at the time, but I remember the beta 1.8 update being received very positively. It felt like this groundbreaking thing and me and everybody I knew was so excited about all the new stuff in the game. When 1.9 came around I personally saw a much more negative reaction, both among my friends and in the community. Servers began to stop updating which is to my knowledge the first time this happened to an extension like this, which we can still see today with massive servers like Hypixel still running pre 1.9. My interest in the game had slowly decreased during this period and the update sealed the deal for me and my friends to stop playing it regularly. Since then I've stuck to only pre 1.9 servers excluding the few times I've played on realms

[@Chameleonred5]

Still not sure why people thought 1.9 was bad.

[@TechBlade9000]

@cacade2006 And Mojang has realized that too (DPS can't outdo regen mechanics)

[@TechBlade9000]

@cacade2006 Damage per second

[@defaultsplace1348]

You're going to want to redo this video, it appears a new challenger wants to take the title.

[@muenstercheese]

Aaaaaaaaaaand here we are with 1.19.84-- I mean, 1.19.1, sorry.

[@goblez5900]

I really loved the old terrain. My childhood minecraft base was at the top of a mountain that had one side cut off by a forest biome and a lava fall. It had exposed caves that I turned into a path that reached the top, man I miss that world.

[@kwadrat_pl]

Ahh old oceans. I remember still my main world trying to fine an island...

[@prodbywerty]

Big unnatural hills are awesome! I don't know why the devs thought to remove them, and I'm glad the devs added them back.

[@MintyLime703]

What I mostly miss about the old food system is that it required some planning and inventory management. You could bring more food and last longer but with less inventory space, or bring less and risk running out. Now you just shove a stack of melons in the corner and never worry about it again.

[@pyrogreg8]

Melons give very little saturation so your hunger doesn't stay at 100% for very long. Steak is better!

[@minix07]

Fun fact: Beta 1.7 was kind of a "preview" of Beta 1.8. Beta 1.7 added pistons and shears Mojang forgot to remove the silverfish texture in beta 1.7 and removed it in beta 1.7.1