Minecraft's new report system sucks

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OmicronGaming

OmicronGaming

Күн бұрын

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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@OmicronGaming
@OmicronGaming Жыл бұрын
1. A couple people have asked me if I'm planning on making a video to commemorate Technoblade. The thing is, I don't want to say anything else. I would feel wrong doing so. Making a video about it on my channel doesn't really feel right, and I have no desire to farm clicks/ad revenue/attention off the topic like some others are doing. So yeah. Stay strong out there, and talk to someone if you're going through stages of grief. We'll get through this as a community. 💜 2. This video topic is a couple days old, but I was working on this video and juggling conventions at the same time. Then, after the Techno news struck, I couldn't really bring myself to edit or look at Minecraft for a few days. But after a little delay, I'm back and should be on a normal schedule from here on out. Thanks for your patience!
@Psycho_Potat0
@Psycho_Potat0 Жыл бұрын
Hello
@kylofps
@kylofps Жыл бұрын
Massive respect man
@icudill4017
@icudill4017 Жыл бұрын
Omicron I have your respect for doing this. As most youtubers are milking this as a form of monetization. However, you stick out like a sore thumb, and in a real good way. Your way of handling this should be a role model to other youtuber's, and I am completely agreeing on your opinion. You clearly show respects to Technoblade and are refusing to attempt to get a little more revenue or clicks off something that shouldn't be touched but just accepted and acknowledged.
@RinRin72769
@RinRin72769 Жыл бұрын
Chaddest KZbinr
@rahulmehta7476
@rahulmehta7476 Жыл бұрын
Respect+++
@creepcraft370
@creepcraft370 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see why they just don’t mute you instead of just plain out banning you
@UltraAryan10
@UltraAryan10 Жыл бұрын
They mute you on bedrock, not sure why java devs are going crazy with the bans.
@pineappleudh6561
@pineappleudh6561 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why they are doing this in the first place. It's up to the server owners to decide their rules, Minecraft doesn't need to do it (and quite frankly is going to do a terrible job) Luckily I'm almost certain this change won't last long (considering the amount of mass reporting bots there's gonna be)
@oPrixel
@oPrixel Жыл бұрын
you need to be a mojang dev
@Bruzen
@Bruzen Жыл бұрын
@@UltraAryan10 the devs are just taking orders stop blaming them 💀
@AndrewPacketikov
@AndrewPacketikov Жыл бұрын
@@Bruzen the hitler soliders are just taking oders stop blaming them
@w3llplad783
@w3llplad783 Жыл бұрын
Punishments should be dealt with the servers not the game itself. The strictness of the rules should depend on the server, since every server is different.
@mkeefe4248
@mkeefe4248 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@chilledout_5486
@chilledout_5486 Жыл бұрын
You could say "lets kill green first" and you'd probably get banned. (Bedwars)
@Better_Bread
@Better_Bread Жыл бұрын
@@chilledout_5486 imagine saying “let’s kill white” in bedwars and someone reporting you for racism
@caniputballsinyojaws
@caniputballsinyojaws Жыл бұрын
@@chilledout_5486 imagine saaying something like black is bad and then getting banned for racism when its bedwars. fuck its gonna be bad if we are judging off of roblox moderation which it seems like its getting pretty close to.idk tho if it isnt in every version imma just stick to 1.19 and before if i play multiplayer.
@birdfigure
@birdfigure Жыл бұрын
@@caniputballsinyojaws 'cept roblox moderation only comes when you bypass the extreme censorship they have on, along with warnings.
@ominoustoaster
@ominoustoaster Жыл бұрын
Minecraft’s relationship with its community has been going downhill ever since they were bought out by Microsoft, it sucks that they care more about money and pandering to the general audience than listening to the people who have been playing their game for years.
@luminatron
@luminatron Жыл бұрын
Finally it's here YES kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM
@slimesp1der
@slimesp1der Жыл бұрын
True
@SND08
@SND08 Жыл бұрын
It's just because it's not mojangs choice anymore. It's Microsoft's
@LeReubzRic
@LeReubzRic Жыл бұрын
Hope some noob doesn't get me banned for hacking
@UltraAryan10
@UltraAryan10 Жыл бұрын
It kinda went downhill then uphill then they reached their lowest point now.
@Tomatech
@Tomatech Жыл бұрын
The only problems i have with chat reporting is A. Microsoft handling the reports instead of a server mod team B. Reports and bans are global. If you're banned from one server, even falsely, you're banned from all servers including your own private servers
@rachel1215
@rachel1215 Жыл бұрын
Just use cracked minecraft
@maxseemton641
@maxseemton641 Жыл бұрын
@@rachel1215 yup if I get banned I won't buy another account cracked ones are easy as fuck to get
@rachel1215
@rachel1215 Жыл бұрын
@@maxseemton641 oh no, how can you not pay us for the fifth time for the same game? We still haven't released the dlc, the fishing update and the vr edition
@Lych_
@Lych_ Жыл бұрын
Are you guys like crying cause you can’t be racist sexist etc. In your server? JUST DON’T SWEAR
@lebro4401
@lebro4401 Жыл бұрын
@@Lych_ I seriously don't get this argument. "SMH just don't swear" is just a naive take from a perspective where global ban shouldn't be necessary and such just do local bans "which is getting banned from the server not multiplayer access" just like the community has been doing for decades. The report system is a fine addition but the implementation in which it forces global ban in losing your multiplayer rights because you happen to do a miniscule of Tom foolery or even get falsely banned is downright stupid. Regardless, getting global banned for something that is mentioned above is a nuclear option which only hurts the playerbase.
@gasped
@gasped Жыл бұрын
I am astounded that Microsoft is STILL set on implementing the chat report system despite the continuous and harsh backlash. This reporting system is completely unneeded and if anything, harmful. I am fully convinced that Microsoft is just a money hungry company that doesn't care about it's users whatsoever.
@calcutt4
@calcutt4 Жыл бұрын
It took you this long to realise that?
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
Fr, its gonna be only chat about buying something and you have to make it super clear that its some in game thing, its a shitty system deemed to destroy the multiplayer sustem.
@qy9892
@qy9892 Жыл бұрын
There's not a single game company that cares about the players. Not anymore.
@gilesstockman4913
@gilesstockman4913 Жыл бұрын
totally agree
@timbo303official9
@timbo303official9 Жыл бұрын
@@qy9892 your a bit wrong about this seeing how indie developers are a thing. For Pete's sake even hypixel itself counts.
@chibz1790
@chibz1790 Жыл бұрын
the bottom line is that even though it seems like it, minecraft isn't a kids game, in fact the report system is doing the opposite for the target audience, restricting banned players to a single-player, child friendly game mode, in my opinion i think an age verification would be better before letting children access multiplayer modes, as it would prevent young eyes from being harrassed on the internet, while also giving them the experience of minecraft
@chibz1790
@chibz1790 Жыл бұрын
obviously age verification being something like 12 and up years old to play multiplayer
@bilingualfish4246
@bilingualfish4246 Жыл бұрын
but some kids like playing multiplayer like hypixel. honestly nothing about chat reporting or multiplayer bans should exist. quite a lot of kids playing big servers like hypixel don't even care about swear words and stuff
@shadowmanksx
@shadowmanksx Жыл бұрын
they don't want to restrict anyone they want to force you to rebuy minecraft to play multiplayer increasing there revenue it's literally the only reason this shit was added they dont care about young people or the playerbase.
@mathewmantas
@mathewmantas Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought.
@ebty4969
@ebty4969 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowmanksx this is most definitely true. They have no way to actually keep you off multiplayer. They don't link bans to emails or ip addresses, so you can easily bypass the ban by buying another account. Microsoft doesn't care about being PG like it says it does. It just wants money.
@VerySkilledGamer
@VerySkilledGamer Жыл бұрын
Servers can have different rule sets, and Microsoft admins won’t know about them so this basically will ruin servers with their own rule sets unless they change it to where server owners can do something like toggle certain report categories or toggle chat reports in general.
@VerySkilledGamer
@VerySkilledGamer Жыл бұрын
Or just don’t add the report system, cause Mojang purposely made Java edition be named “Minecraft: Java Edition” while bedrock is named “Minecraft”. They can just change the rating for Java edition to be rated T for teens or whatever it is compared to Bedrock’s E10+ and let the server owners take care of everything. If they plan on making parity between Bedrock and Java, but making Java like Bedrock instead, I won’t be updating. Maybe they could also make it to where only server owners and moderators could report someone and actually get it sent to Microsoft, as that would make false bans a lot less likely cause it’d go through two mods.
@AvoidMyHitz
@AvoidMyHitz Жыл бұрын
You could not update the version or create plugins that disable the gui of the report system
@AvoidMyHitz
@AvoidMyHitz Жыл бұрын
There are servers that mute me for days cuz I said bitch, and servers that are OK with me saying the f word once every 5 seconds
@TipoIrritable
@TipoIrritable Жыл бұрын
I mean, the death threats are not in any rule of a server
@ihavenoideas5844
@ihavenoideas5844 Жыл бұрын
@@TipoIrritable 2b2t
@Bjsvakdvskdbaiqb
@Bjsvakdvskdbaiqb Жыл бұрын
I think you may have forgotten that players on bedrock are SCARED to chat in ANY server.
@1unar_eclipse
@1unar_eclipse Жыл бұрын
I got shadowmuted from one server probably because their spam filter doesn't factor in time. They also reward you for saying "gg" after a game. So, if you only say "gg" for the experience...
@femboy_garfield
@femboy_garfield Жыл бұрын
@@1unar_eclipse galaxite?
@1unar_eclipse
@1unar_eclipse Жыл бұрын
@@femboy_garfield yep
@jetpond7904
@jetpond7904 Жыл бұрын
I’m genuinly scared to chat as well
@matthewbarabas3052
@matthewbarabas3052 9 ай бұрын
good. that means anyone that does talk does so because its needed.
@thelonelydragon8768
@thelonelydragon8768 Жыл бұрын
Not only does it raise the issue of malicious ban-spamming, but it also steamrolls the endless diverse "cultures" of the Minecraft multiplayer community. Does anyone actually have faith that Microsoft (because that's who this is coming from) is going to spend the resources to carefully study the context of each chat message, action, etc. of each reported player? And who's to say Microsoft is an objective judge either?
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp Жыл бұрын
there are hack v hack servers anarchy and shit, microsoft should not moderate the game at all.
@petos_n9926
@petos_n9926 Жыл бұрын
This system is practically useless because almost every server has its own moderation and rules.
@ahmadsab_
@ahmadsab_ Жыл бұрын
This system is not useless, its less than useless and it's harmful
@petos_n9926
@petos_n9926 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadsab_ Exactly. In theory you can actually false ban owner of of their own server.
@Will_-it3mh
@Will_-it3mh Жыл бұрын
@@petos_n9926 I did not think of that. Imagine some of the major servers owners losing their servers. tho maybe if the team running the server is big enough it won't be a big issues since the server maybe have shared ownership. but idk the details, ain't very knolegable
@wNiko.
@wNiko. Жыл бұрын
@@Will_-it3mh usually if your host isnt dumb you have console access ao you can basically get an alt or buy a new accpunt and can give ownerahip to your new acc but the syatem is dumb in general
@LongNguyen-gj7ec
@LongNguyen-gj7ec Жыл бұрын
actually i think the ban system is pointless, as big servers like hypixels already have their own report system, or small servers have /kick, /ban commands
@marsgc543
@marsgc543 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what the description says, if a player is doing something inappropriate or spamming unendingly then there is always the option to just leave. Just leave. Minecraft doesn't need to implement multiversal bans because it is such a sandbox game that there are an infinite number of things anyone could do to stop that person or just leave the situation altogether.
@cassregisterr
@cassregisterr Жыл бұрын
Banning makes sense in my head because that player that is being annoying isn’t just annoying you, it’s annoying everyone in that server as well. Not to mention the other servers that that player will go to.
@Dan.114
@Dan.114 Жыл бұрын
@@cassregisterr but bro if a player gets banned he wont be able to join HIS OWN SERVERS and his friend's servers FOREVER do you even realize how wrong this is
@cassregisterr
@cassregisterr Жыл бұрын
@@Dan.114 ohhhhhhhhhh you're right. most bans aren't permanent though, unless its a permanent ban, which they might have done something bad to deserve it.
@imadoge5036
@imadoge5036 Жыл бұрын
@@cassregisterr just ignore them or leave that to the moderation team. Additionally you should just add a command like /ignore (specific_player). Banning is not only stupid because there is a moderation team on each server mostly, but you also can't swear like you used to. Some people just like dark jokes. Multiversal banning is stupid. And besides, he even mentioned in the video. If someone annoys you, just report them to the server staff
@imadoge5036
@imadoge5036 Жыл бұрын
@@cassregisterr also who cares about the other servers that player goes to, he can get banned everywhere
@uxiii9537
@uxiii9537 Жыл бұрын
Even though we as a community stated that we will not accept new rules, they're still enforcing it as if they have a malicious purpose in doing so. I dont trust microsoft, and in recent years lost my trust to mojang (splitting 1 version into 3)
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
@Arolex just making it less user friendly.
@luckylmj
@luckylmj Жыл бұрын
@Arolex yeah, personally every update since 1.14 has sucked but like, do i really care? as long as they keep the ability to play previous versions, im fine
@xebrax124
@xebrax124 Жыл бұрын
@@luckylmj with how microsoft runs bedrock, i wouldn't be surprised if they made java playable only on older versions :/
@mr.creeper6484
@mr.creeper6484 Жыл бұрын
@Arolex well netherite new textures and warden are great. they have done their fair share of good but the chat report system is unnaceptable
@Chia_Mochia
@Chia_Mochia Жыл бұрын
@Arolex Isn't that the whole point of the Warden? It's supposed to be overpowered, because you aren't supposed to kill it. The whole point of the deep dark is for you to be sneaky, and not start killing everything in site. Also, how does one mob effect the usefulness of an item? I could go and say diamond is useless for the exact same reason you stated as well. As well as iron, gold, leather, etc
@_tym3k
@_tym3k Жыл бұрын
If they really want to improve multiplayer experience they should add something like "confirm you are over a certain age so we can show you the chat" and I think players should just forget about that system and play as normal
@NickDidThis
@NickDidThis Жыл бұрын
They should make it toggleable on servers imo, so some servers don’t have to have it
@truepixel__5927
@truepixel__5927 Жыл бұрын
And better yet, display a warning saying that the server the player is joining may not be a suitable environment for kids.
@i30
@i30 Жыл бұрын
@@truepixel__5927 Yes otherwise it's like saying Hey, join my roleplay server where we will assign you the role of the kidnapper and report you!
@Why-wd3zg
@Why-wd3zg Жыл бұрын
I have already seen mods that can manipulate reports to remove context and get someone falsely banned. These mods are just made to prove how easy it is to break the system, but genuine mods to abuse this kind of thing would be just as easy to make. The system is awful in every way.
@ebty4969
@ebty4969 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I know for a fact that as soon as 1.19.1 comes out, the ban count is going to hit some REALLY high numbers
@fitmotheyap
@fitmotheyap Жыл бұрын
Even worse now Mods to manipulate context
@Relmix_
@Relmix_ Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for cheaters to make auto report scripts like on roblox. Context, cheaters on roblox get called names like “ur so bad you have to cheat”, “wow your cheating and are still bad”. So cheaters made scripts that whenever they see keywords like those it auto reports the other user. In 9/10 cases the angry player gets a 3 day “harassment” ban and the cheater just continues to play.
@1unar_eclipse
@1unar_eclipse Жыл бұрын
Some already have lol
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like fly hacking and me saying that they fr have to cheat getting me banned is just a shitty feature.
@PetBrickProductions
@PetBrickProductions Жыл бұрын
I'd say the best option would be to use that mod that disables chat-signing
@mr.creeper6484
@mr.creeper6484 Жыл бұрын
now they can detect the mod
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
@@mr.creeper6484 bruh
@R0DBS2
@R0DBS2 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.creeper6484 this is Just stupid
@RealNotOrrio
@RealNotOrrio Жыл бұрын
@@mr.creeper6484 build a mod that uses a different chat code so it cant be detected
@cloap1702
@cloap1702 Жыл бұрын
Mojang should add a thing so servers can define before a player joins if the server is like PG family friendly or toxic players so if a player is reported for swearing in a toxic server they cannot be in trouble as the server owners/staff have decided it’s ok and the players are aware of this fact
@axolotls_be_goat
@axolotls_be_goat Жыл бұрын
I think server owners should have the choice to implement the report features on their server
@Littlefish1239
@Littlefish1239 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@emifro
@emifro Жыл бұрын
The number 1 issue with this is: My server, my rules. Micro$oft does not need to tell me how to moderate my server hosted on my computer.
@YaYeet47
@YaYeet47 Жыл бұрын
I think that if this goes into action I will avoid chatting most of the time, being afraid of being banned from anything.
@ebty4969
@ebty4969 Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing multiplayer months ago because I got legitimately sick of it, but this would be good enough a reason to leave now if I hadn't already done so. Unfortunately I'm still going to have to unwillingly watch Minecraft's gameplay updates continue deteriorating, because it definitely will.
@prosandcons-fl2cc
@prosandcons-fl2cc Жыл бұрын
I left a comment on their feedback page. It took them a little less than a week to review it and when they did, they removed it for some reason. There were no swear words, inflammatory statements, or anything. They just removed it. The saddest part is that ive this is a common thing happening.
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
Dictator Microsoft
@rubbishping3853
@rubbishping3853 Жыл бұрын
I think they should instead of banning players from multiplayer and realms they could just mute the player for an amount of time
@amongsussyballs
@amongsussyballs Жыл бұрын
exactly this why are people going to be banned for chatting when you could just disable their chat?????
@i30
@i30 Жыл бұрын
@@amongsussyballs and why are you going to disable their chat from all servers? Some servers literally are roleplay servers
@silverash896
@silverash896 Жыл бұрын
@@amongsussyballs still a terrible idea, some servers are relied heavily on commands, even if Microsoft decided to mute the chat but not the commands, its still going to break some plugins because not all of them are perfect and are designed for these type of moderation. Moderation as a whole should be taken care by the owner of the server. Multiversal moderation is not a solution, its a recipe for disaster.
@LilPolvito
@LilPolvito Жыл бұрын
imo, even if the player does death threats or says something really bad, they should not be banned from minecraft, they should be banned from just the server. We are forced to pay or host our own servers so mojang/microsoft should stay out of it.
@matthewbarabas3052
@matthewbarabas3052 9 ай бұрын
oh sure, people can totally be trusted to behave on every other server. global bans are needed.
@kenobi5745
@kenobi5745 Жыл бұрын
Not mojang's fault, this is Microsoft doing this, they wanted their accounts to be used for all minecrafters so they had more control over us, and this is phase 1
@in_credit
@in_credit Жыл бұрын
wait, how many phases are there? ...
@Th3cosmic_
@Th3cosmic_ Жыл бұрын
@@in_credit 69
@SplatBad
@SplatBad Жыл бұрын
@@in_credit 5
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp Жыл бұрын
@@in_credit next they are coming after cracked servers and clients
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
@@in_credit 5 phases First phase take control Second phase assert dominance Third phase abuse Fourth phase target pirated clients Last phase kill the game.
@michichan6311
@michichan6311 Жыл бұрын
Another day, another regret I wished notch never sold it to some multi-billionare company
@chickennugget6684
@chickennugget6684 Жыл бұрын
although from his perspective who can blame him, dude made bank ..i do fricking hate microsoft though.l
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
We wouldn’t have these updates if it weren’t for the funding from Microsoft.
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
Not saying I support the moderation system; I despise it with all my heart. This is coming from a Roblox player who has played the game since 2013 and witnessed the most bullshit reasons for a moderation punishment
@mango5898
@mango5898 Жыл бұрын
@@notzaldy roblox should be an example of why this chat reporting system wouldn’t work
@jetpond7904
@jetpond7904 Жыл бұрын
@@mango5898 exactly. Roblox is shit
@CryptoTNT
@CryptoTNT Жыл бұрын
What if they want to mis-ban you, so you pay for Minecraft again and they get more money? Its really sad how Mojang broke the trust they gave the players since the very start, Minecraft is a game where you choose how you wanna play. This is just ruining the freedom of the game.
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
I mean thats how they will do it realistically. Soon everything will be pirated.
@DogzRGodz
@DogzRGodz Жыл бұрын
I hope mojang either can implement it with context for the staff and do it well (kinda like hypixel atlas replays but like between games, between servers, etc) or they just don’t implement it at all. If they do end up implementing it, I personally will use mods to remove it or if that’s not possible, I will just do redstone in single player or just play on older versions.
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
But then there’s the millions and millions of active players. Take roblox for example. Have you SEEN their moderation? Moderators would not put their time and effort i to reading hours of logs for an individual user. This system sucks garbage and shouldn’t be implemented at all.
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
You would need hundreds of thousands of moderators to investigate these reports and many more for the annoying mass amounts of fake appeals.
@afriendlyfox
@afriendlyfox Жыл бұрын
Honestly what makes me really mad, is that if people host these servers themselves, why should Mojang decide if they do have access to them or not? They could decide it for Realms, but making me unable to connect to the server I host on my machine which I pay for is ridiculous.
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
“Give me your $29 and we’ll take the game away from you” - Microsoft
@briancrompton7440
@briancrompton7440 Жыл бұрын
Bill gates is just tired of ppl claiming their dad owns Microsoft
@lightning_11
@lightning_11 Жыл бұрын
I love how many activities you can play in Minecraft. It's like the ultimate buy one get ten games free experience for me. You make a great point (one that I haven't seen elsewhere).
@unavailableun
@unavailableun Жыл бұрын
minecraft 1.20, the terrible update: "we have removed the /ban command as young kids can't be trusted with that kind of power, we also removed all forms of weapons as children need to be protected from all forms of IRL problems whilst playing games"
@HungryWarden
@HungryWarden 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I can’t say 1.20 was any better than that update. We got a bunch of useless decorations that do absolutely nothing and add nothing to the gameplay, not to mention they’re way to rare to actually obtain a reasonable amount.
@HungryWarden
@HungryWarden 9 ай бұрын
*too rare
@thenetheritecow
@thenetheritecow Жыл бұрын
i find this whole report system really stupid, because most multiplayer servers where majority of the chats are, have moderation teams and we don't need anything more than that as its their jobs and they control what is said and who gets punished for it
@TacoSharkBoi
@TacoSharkBoi Жыл бұрын
Long ago I had a very laggy computer. When I would play any game on hypixel, I would basically be flying around the match. So it's no surprise I got false banned for 90 days. I was so angry, especially when I tried to appeal it and got denied. This is to say, false bans can happen to anyone, so I agree with the points you brought up. Great vid as always :)
@elynox1730
@elynox1730 Жыл бұрын
People wont learn from their mistakes if they just get banned like that its just gonna make them angry
@takbuddersstuff5757
@takbuddersstuff5757 Жыл бұрын
Especially false bans! Microsoft needs to learn a thing or two.
@bzbam24
@bzbam24 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh don't make fun of people's pet hamsters or else...💀
@KudaXD
@KudaXD Жыл бұрын
ngl i feel like they will have ppl purposefully perma banning people for them to buy another minecraft account. and imagine all your hard work gone and locked behind a $30 paywall. Such a disappointing update
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
@Bplayz but you cant play hypixel on forge fabric
@Damian-cilr2
@Damian-cilr2 Жыл бұрын
@@1000-THR_Benjamin tf do you mean you can't? i have played on hypixel with mods multiple times
@kajetus0688
@kajetus0688 Жыл бұрын
Servers will get a plugin which disabled chat reporting and people will make modified versions to bypass bans
@florianb.4401
@florianb.4401 Жыл бұрын
That's also a reason, why the system won't work in Java Edition. Because you can mod the whole game. There's always a way to bypass the system.
@bryanchen4435
@bryanchen4435 Жыл бұрын
I have some concerns because it is definitely easy for the ability to constantly report every message in chat to be added to some hack client. Another thing I realized is that this might all be an elaborate plan for them to make more profit because people might buy more accounts if banned.
@parzflash1619
@parzflash1619 Жыл бұрын
now i have to be nice to idiots on skyblock that try to rat or scam me
@Th3cosmic_
@Th3cosmic_ Жыл бұрын
If u get a necrons handle you cant be excitied like OMG GOT NECRONS HANDLE!!! Its considered yelling and you can get banned. You have to type: oh my gosh (cant say god or banned) i was so lucky i got necrons handle! Bruh.
@parzflash1619
@parzflash1619 Жыл бұрын
@@Th3cosmic_ i got chat muted for saying i put necrons handle in sadans hole
@NotVeryGoodAtThis
@NotVeryGoodAtThis Жыл бұрын
im not even gonna talk about the report system. what im gonna talk about is how funny omicron is. the league of legends and overwatch jokes really got me. you earned another sub king
@mxnokuma4335
@mxnokuma4335 Жыл бұрын
Alright, here is how to crack the entire report system: 1: Create a singleplayer world with your alt account 2: Use macro to spam report a generated player that was created using plugins or commands 3: If there is a cooldown, get more bots that do the same thing
@melo-7904
@melo-7904 Жыл бұрын
Well that’s when we just all agree to just use either 1. Make the servers to a modified version that doesn’t sign the text 2. Just use discord
@bobfiddledoodle824
@bobfiddledoodle824 Жыл бұрын
Although I agree with you on most things, I will disagree with you when I say that this feature IS a huge deal and could see the end of minecraft multiplayer. (AT least for servers updated past 1.18). Because on bedrock you can get banned from single player and multiplayer on a private realm wirh just you and your friends. So keep in mind, on a realm you PAY FOR, you can get banned for saying whatever you're saying with friends. Where said friends know what is joking and what isn't. It's ridiculous. And the moderation for bedrock has always been so bad. When it launched i was shadowbanned for almost 2 years on servers. It's only a matter of time before they bring all of this shit to java
@sol2354
@sol2354 Жыл бұрын
they should only implement this on realms
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp Жыл бұрын
exactly
@brawojtas
@brawojtas Жыл бұрын
I can agree. There are a lot of issues with the system. Yet if i had to change things, making bans actually for time and not forever and fixing some of the reasons to report
@CreatorProductionsOriginal
@CreatorProductionsOriginal Жыл бұрын
I feel like a good “fix” for most of the problems/the main problem is to implement a feature that makes the mods get the message and context, like things that same person said and even your messages to make sure you’re not the wrong one falsely reporting or reporting because you got mad So the mods could go like “this guy reported guy2 for saying shut up, but before that guy1 spammed GG ez”
@hamishthehero6872
@hamishthehero6872 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if someone could make a mod that could circumvent the system
@pastaaura925
@pastaaura925 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a serverside mod but you cant do that clientside because other players can report you
@amongsussyballs
@amongsussyballs Жыл бұрын
@@pastaaura925 servers could definetly get around this by sending chat through the server and not the actual players
@frank-yp9br
@frank-yp9br Жыл бұрын
This needs to be removed forever, we need to protest.
@cg7407
@cg7407 Жыл бұрын
imo they should only mute players (e.g. remove chatting feature unless its a command (this way servers who want to ignore these mutes could still print messages via the players doin /say commands from plugins / datapacks or minecraft could just let servers decide themselves if they want to use the mute feature via some server settings)) and not ban them (especially since its paid) also i wonder if mod / client devs are gonna find loopholes to get past these bans
@fuzzbuzz2968
@fuzzbuzz2968 Жыл бұрын
I don't like the fact Microsoft is now going over to java and trying to fix something
@alexboyce5517
@alexboyce5517 Жыл бұрын
This video is just Omicron roasting every toxic game ever, and also giving a great showing as to why the ban system is meh at best
@benzoboyy
@benzoboyy Жыл бұрын
The fact is minecraft is so boring letterly so if there is any one who will banned he will say "oh, i got banned, i don't really care, i'll go and play some other games" And thats how microsoft will lose their minecraft customers.
@HungryWarden
@HungryWarden 9 ай бұрын
Minecraft isn’t boring, you’re boring. I was so confused about what you meant by “Letterly” but then I realized you meant “Literally.” How come nobody knows how to spell.
@HungryWarden
@HungryWarden 9 ай бұрын
*spell?
@benzoboyy
@benzoboyy 9 ай бұрын
@@HungryWarden lmao It's been a year ago since i posted that comment Im arabic so my english isn't that good ofc Also im one of the biggest fans of minecraft I actually have a minecraft account and Im having so much fun playing it It's just a comment of something I don't like about microsoft So chill 💀 You also kept bullying me about how I spell and forgot about the main idea that i want to share GROW UP!
@bajabajab6571
@bajabajab6571 Жыл бұрын
1. i think it should be a mute not a ban 2. although it could be like a month ban(which i think is still extreme) for some things it shouldn't be permanent
@Th3cosmic_
@Th3cosmic_ Жыл бұрын
It depends
@lool8421
@lool8421 Жыл бұрын
1. there shouldn't be a global banning system, but rather servers could choose their "levels of restrictions" so for example ppl banned for swearing can still join servers like 2b2t (since chat is alr stupidly toxic there) or your own servers, but some servers could just not let those people in 2. reporting system should also send 10 previous messages and up to 10 next messages for context and "no ban" should be the default thing to avoid false bans 3. rather than banning immediately, there should be some striking system, so you have to get reported on multiple servers (you're toxic in general, not just on that server) and you know if you messed up 4. this reporting most likely is gonna decrease the sales of the game and heavily increase the piracy rates, since a cracked version at least allows cracked servers (rather than banning all servers) and paying for the game doesn't really give any benefits
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp Жыл бұрын
oh they are coming after cracked servers and clients next. i started my career with hack v hack servers and shit. its really sad
@diamondyoshi6649
@diamondyoshi6649 Жыл бұрын
"What should be done" More players should use anti-report fabric mods.
@Will_-it3mh
@Will_-it3mh Жыл бұрын
it's only fabric rn?
@diamondyoshi6649
@diamondyoshi6649 Жыл бұрын
@@Will_-it3mh idk I only use fabric
@dixiedawg.
@dixiedawg. Жыл бұрын
this is actually dumb, WHY does Minecraft have to do this, and as person that has spent over 600$ on their account im especially worried about this, I hope they change this or something, even those it’s probably Microsoft or whatever making them doing this but still, mine just keeps going down and down and I hope they add something good sometime, great video. also you said it costs 27$ but put a ss that says it’s 29$, nice job omicron
@Shad0wygamer
@Shad0wygamer Жыл бұрын
the price use to be 26.95 but because of the bedrock java merge thing its 29.99 now
@unavailableun
@unavailableun Жыл бұрын
*29.99
@dixiedawg.
@dixiedawg. Жыл бұрын
@@unavailableun yeah Ik lmao, but it’s obvious that I ment that lol.
@tantalix6650
@tantalix6650 Жыл бұрын
I still remember the old 1.8.0 and 1.7.10 times, they where simple and the prime of Minecraft…
@greengrassgaming2530
@greengrassgaming2530 Жыл бұрын
Ive already got falsley banned in bedrock and im super upset to see this coming now that its 100% locked behind paywall as i cant just reset the app data
@Primeified_
@Primeified_ Жыл бұрын
Simple solution: Delete the Minecraft chat system entirely.
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand Жыл бұрын
Ah the way youtube would solve the problem looking at you dislike button
@florianb.4401
@florianb.4401 Жыл бұрын
Or: Just make it impossible to get banned.
@Thomassdoor
@Thomassdoor Жыл бұрын
I probably shouldn’t be worried about this, but I am. I’m scared of typing in multiplayer chat now this is going to be implemented. Of course, they are trying to fix the rules based off of the player concerns, but even then, I find it really frightening. I do feel Microsoft has good intent, but if they execute it wrong, it will not only have a big effect on the entire player base, but also the company itself.
@CatJaam
@CatJaam Жыл бұрын
Microsoft does not have good intent. They are just a greedy power hungry company that doesn't care about players. The only thing they care about is the money.
@user-tu9tl7cg1w
@user-tu9tl7cg1w Жыл бұрын
In one of the servers I play in they think everything is spam.I lost a game and I wrote "noooo".The next game which i also managed to lose like 5 minutes after the "noooo" I wrote it again and it didn't let me send it because it is a spam....WTF man
@the_devolper
@the_devolper Жыл бұрын
i think that they should add an option in the server configuration that activates or not their report system, so that someone banned could continue to play in servers that don't have it active and cant be banned in those servers: obviously when a server deactivates the option it has to be flagged as "unsecure" and younger players can't play in it without the consens of the parents
@lightning_11
@lightning_11 Жыл бұрын
I like the _idea_ behind the report system, but it seems like it should be significantly more *optional.*
@therealgyro
@therealgyro Жыл бұрын
Bedrock is a deeply flawed version, with hundreds, thousands of bugs that aren't getting fixed. Random deaths, instakill coordinates, false bans from multilayer and existing single player worlds are a small part of the issues with bedrock edition. Sure, slightly earlier access to some updates and cross version multilayer is great! But bringing java closer to bedrock edition just makes it a worse game. A lot of people on bedrock are scared of using chat, because random bans are such a frequent thing. The "highly trained staff" that is reviewing the chat messages often bans people without knowing the context and the type of server it was written on.
@therealgyro
@therealgyro Жыл бұрын
Also realm subscriptions aren't automatically cancelled when you get banned so that's a thing.
@1000-THR_Benjamin
@1000-THR_Benjamin Жыл бұрын
@@therealgyro i mean they are a shitty company that milks users
@bruh12458
@bruh12458 Жыл бұрын
no offense but as a bedrock player I have no idea what you mean by random deaths and instakill coordanites, sure there's false bans but that's on the servers end
@therealgyro
@therealgyro Жыл бұрын
@@bruh12458 example for coordinates: x:65536 z:65535, you fall through the world, and for random deaths something that happened to me quite often when I played in survival was that I randomly took damage and it said "I hit the ground too hard". Often I was for example exploring, I fell down 2 blocks, at full health, and just died when I shouldn't even have taken damage.
@therealgyro
@therealgyro Жыл бұрын
@@bruh12458 another thing I experienced a few times was not responding next to my bed, but above the world spawn high up in the air, and then continously dying of fall damage.
@projectgenex8057
@projectgenex8057 Жыл бұрын
Actually I've banned a person once for hacking in the server and I thought it wouldn't work but couple of day's later I've never seen that person again
@immejor508
@immejor508 Жыл бұрын
When I got the notification I clicked it so fast that the video wasn't even showing up on your channel yet and the video playback was broken
@lionclient4369
@lionclient4369 Жыл бұрын
I HATE NEW CHAT SYSTEM #ENDOFMINECRAFT
@Mystic-yt2lk
@Mystic-yt2lk Жыл бұрын
id like it if individual servers were given a rating of how child friendly they were, and what less child friendly topic are often discussed - cause b2t players will all be banned otherwise :(
@itsazien
@itsazien Жыл бұрын
tbh hopefully mojang reconsider the decision but the odds of them cancelling this feature = winning a lottery
@savinggrace2750
@savinggrace2750 Жыл бұрын
Your funny. I could win 20 lottery’s in a row before they cancel this feature
@Jantendo08
@Jantendo08 Жыл бұрын
I heard about a plugin in wich the normal chat is completely shut down and a new one is implemented by the plugin
@Elementening
@Elementening Жыл бұрын
i highly doubt this is a mojang choice, mojang actually trusts their community to run their own servers. microsoft seems to think otherwise. like even just a mute system would be perfectly fine, but seriously being banned from multiplayer is awful. obviously for people actually breaking the rules badly, they should be banned but this is 100% going to bring false bans. i just hope minecraft doesnt become like roblox, with its nonsensical moderation. i literally got banned because my game was "innapropriate" when it was literally the default game and was private lol ps. they denied my appeal so that account is lost forever
@realdiddyboo
@realdiddyboo Жыл бұрын
The best part about the community standards thing is that i was forced to migrate my java because I didn't want to go under the microsoft tos. And they do it anyway.
@__shaz
@__shaz Жыл бұрын
The swearing part is good that its in the gray, On hypixel you can turn on the filter and turn it off so its depended on the player of what they want themselves. Now we don't know what minecraft will do if we swear or not
@am_epikcarrot2758
@am_epikcarrot2758 Жыл бұрын
ITS 40 DOLLERS HERE IN AUSTRALIA SO IF I GET BANNED I WILL GO INTO CRIPPLING DEPRESSION
@itsyamal2595
@itsyamal2595 Жыл бұрын
6:38 THAT DUDE CLUTCHED HOW LOL
@cokelover-nb1qz
@cokelover-nb1qz Жыл бұрын
in Roblox its very hard to get perm banned from what I seen when I played it, 3 days sure but my cousins and loads of people I had added would say stuff that would 100% get them banned from Minecraft multiplayer by the looks of these new rules but they'd get a 3-day restriction on Roblox
@ZellieOwO
@ZellieOwO Жыл бұрын
what i think they should do for the reporting system to exist; they have commands to enable and disable the microsoft system, so what I think will happen at least I hope they disable you from joining servers with the feature enabled; and allow you to do it with stuff like servers that you own or hypixel who are their own company with their own rules
@dork4202
@dork4202 Жыл бұрын
cant believe update 1984 dropped
@Rye-Bread
@Rye-Bread Жыл бұрын
thats exactly my problem. there is no reason to have the feature because almost all servers already have it.
@Huhhh0.0
@Huhhh0.0 Жыл бұрын
Quick question: when you are muted you can only play single player, can you still open that single player world to LAN? It’s kinda like multiplayer
@pointandclickgaming1854
@pointandclickgaming1854 Жыл бұрын
I got perma-banned from hypixel for "suspicious activity", even though I was just walking around the lobby.
@calcutt4
@calcutt4 Жыл бұрын
"He's just walking there! Suspiciously!"
@amongsussyballs
@amongsussyballs Жыл бұрын
that has nothing to do with what do you in hypixel, you most likely logged in on a vpn or an ip that you dont usually use on hypixel
@pointandclickgaming1854
@pointandclickgaming1854 Жыл бұрын
@@amongsussyballs You're right, I was using a VPN. Is there any way to get unbanned?
@drmz_
@drmz_ Жыл бұрын
This report system can be abused so hard, a player can get banned for saying something in a pvp server along the lines of: "can you come fight me so i can kill you already?" And that can be taken in multiple ways. If thats said on a PvP server then its fine, if its said on a chill community building server then its not ok. An update like this frustrates me a lot, I feel like its not needed, servers been enforcing rules since the start of multiplayer. And the servers, if its a pvp server, ofc they are gonna know that the message is fine.
@dylanpark445
@dylanpark445 Жыл бұрын
hi Omicron i love ur vids, but i have a question. I saw ur comments in Valorant videos. so do you play Valorant?
@lightning_11
@lightning_11 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the report system sends some "context" messages along with the reported messages should help. Hopefully, the mods will be competent and realize what's going on when given a message asking about how to farm cane. I don't want to have to trust Mojang with my multiplayer future, but we don't seem to have much of a choice right now.
@AndrewPacketikov
@AndrewPacketikov Жыл бұрын
выбор есть всегда, если они введут это нововведение, то я просто удалю свою лицензионное издание майнкрафта и буду играть на пиратской версии, не нужно спонсировать обновления которые вам не нравятся, если разработчики не понимают по хорошему, то нужно обьяснить им языком денег.
@notzaldy
@notzaldy Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewPacketikov Multiplayer moment 😔
@SilentHalt
@SilentHalt Жыл бұрын
Nahh man, what you said about ow was dirty, but I agree with it 100%... Also great video overall, I'm pretty much always out of the loop when it comes to anything new really so this is the first time I'm hearing about this.
@FexYbruuh
@FexYbruuh Жыл бұрын
4:09 Brain damage simulator over here IM DYING LMAOOOOOOOOOO I LAUGHED SO HARD
@fuel498lucky3
@fuel498lucky3 Жыл бұрын
Its not only the fear of getting banned but also your friends and other players could be banned and then you would have no one to play with.
@tallyikroe2476
@tallyikroe2476 11 ай бұрын
One idea is for online multiplayer server's in the same vain as hypixel will go through a trial period to determine if they're moderation system needs to be overhauled, Where Hypixel will be a no but servers like shotbow would absolutely be a server that should have their moderation replaced
@hytralium
@hytralium Жыл бұрын
They allowed for so much modifications to the game in the past, to create things like spigot so when i programm something like a sudo plugin and force a player to say something bad, the player could get banned for doing nothing. Additionally mojang would need to have access to the server console, wich on servers like hypixel would be a pain
@Pamdie
@Pamdie Жыл бұрын
0:35 sounds like the entire 1.7 1.8 community
@rokit0402
@rokit0402 Жыл бұрын
I think with this people will use miss to use a different way of chatting
@mozvi1436
@mozvi1436 Жыл бұрын
Even in previous update you had a message when you clicked on the multiplayer tab that advised caution about all the problems that come with servers. If the kids decide to ignore that message, that's already not on the devs. If Minecraft wants to be kid-friendly, then this chat report system is already out of the picture.
@mromg8282
@mromg8282 Жыл бұрын
I may be late but I saw someone mentioning it and I think people should be aware of this: what will happen to the uncensored library?
@gregorydoyouseethesmallven5635
@gregorydoyouseethesmallven5635 Жыл бұрын
What I’ve wondered about this system is, what if you get banned and go on a previous version of minecraft? Since that version has no chat reports could you still play?
@BEAST_69
@BEAST_69 Жыл бұрын
It depends on your account
@ThomasSantosCanal1
@ThomasSantosCanal1 Жыл бұрын
You know what that jazz made me think? Can we have a trumpet video?
@PHEONIX881
@PHEONIX881 Жыл бұрын
This was tried before by the community by making a add on. That if you were ban in 3 servers with said add on you will be banned from every server with that add on and it back fired horribly the owners of the servers got banned and so is the creator of the add on
@sebbog
@sebbog Жыл бұрын
They should instead make it so you are on a watchlist so servers look a bit more at you specificly and not so much on everyone else and if after that you do something that breaks the server rules you get banned from that server
@AspenTheNightlight
@AspenTheNightlight Жыл бұрын
How is migration better security if you lose both your microsoft account and minecraft account when you get hacked, which any other game accounts tied to your microsoft account can also be lost, it's more stupid than getting muted for 2 months 2 days in a row on a huge minecraft server because the server's giant moderating team can't tell that 3 messages isn't flooding
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