Minelab Manticore and Carbon fibre shafts problem!

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@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

This is a must watch video on the problem from a First Texas (Fisher metal detectors) engineer, Carl Moreland demonstrating why I care so much about this problem. Https://kzbin.info/www/bejne/oF6QlniBbLeGmpY And a follow up video he's also done explaining the problem kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqq0qYeImruVhrcsi=nDXFuaKt17Lf0iQB

@HussainAlbayaty 7 ай бұрын

What about xp hunter all the shaft is metal

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

Sorry for the first video being deleted, it was too low volume so I uploaded the second attempt with louder Manticore volume settings.

@Iaincrosby 7 ай бұрын

Carbon is conductive but what you’re forgetting here is that the coil and the shaft move in tandem with each other so minimal if any interference. Carbon has a molecular structure similar to graphite so will behave like a metal. Interesting video though. Thanks Simon.

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

The times when it becomes a real problem are when prospecting for gold, when you're poking your coil into crevices and in and around rocks when you're using the movement of the coil on the shaft to your advantage to get into these places, then every time you move your coil on the shaft you get loud false signals. It would be better off being a plastic shaft like the Equinox 800 in this case.

@Iaincrosby 7 ай бұрын

@@phrunt ahh yes I can see your point, especially prospecting. Something to take up with manufacturers and would be interested to hear what they say about it.

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

@martinsmith2984 7 ай бұрын

Must of sold 1000s and your the only one saying there is a problem, there is nothing wrong with it, had mine over a year now with no problems at all..🙄

@phrunt 6 ай бұрын

Have you watched the Fisher metal detectors engineers' video on the problem? He used the Nox which is less powerful too. The problem really only affects gold prospectors, the rest of the users won't need to worry too much, all they'll get is a bit of extra noise when moving the coil around on the shaft.

@goldfools5445 7 ай бұрын

Interesting. carbon, like charcoal?

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

It's electrically conductive, so detectors like the Algoforce, likely GPX 6000, Equinox 700, 800, 900, Manticore and other VLF's will detect it as if it was a target, not really ideal for detector stability especially putting down and picking up the detector, and moving around coil angles while detecting and who knows the effects on sensitivity with such a big target right near the coil.

@Pat.Mustard 7 ай бұрын

It’s not a problem because the coil and shaft are stationary to each other. My xterra 705 has steel shaft.

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

Read the other comments where I explain why for people that look for gold especially it's a problem, I keep having to repeat myself ;)

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

@CanadianTreasureHunter 7 ай бұрын

Some are leaking

@royjohnson465 7 ай бұрын

Yikes!! I have a GPX 6000, did you check the “carbon fibre” lower shaft on that one too.? ~On my GP 3000 I think I had “fibreglass” lower shafts for it. ~Someone should make aftermarket “fibreglass” (or “solid plastic”) lower shafts for the Manticore and GPX 6000.

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

I'm sure the GPX 6000 will pick up it's own shaft, I haven't tried mine yet but I'll do it later today, the Algoforce which is a PI slightly less sensitive than the GPX 6000 picks up its own carbon shaft though so the 6000 likely will too, see here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHfIoKyvr7SZsNk

@royjohnson465 7 ай бұрын

@@phrunt ~Yes thank you I watched the video and that is quite an eye-opener!! Could you let us know if the 6000 picks up its own shaft? My 6000 is packed away in the shed so I can’t get to it right now. I was going to check if my fibreglass lower shafts for my 3000 will fit on my 6000, I will let you know if it does? ~A fibreglass ‘or’ plastic/vinyl/nylon/polymer/acrylic/resin lower shaft needs to be made to fit as a replacement for the 6000 and Manticore. OR maybe somebody could use a wooden dowel, lathe, dremel, a broomstick, or hand carve a lower shaft out of wood 🤣😂. Actually I really did that many years ago when I went to Mazatlan, Mexico, I custom made a type of “wood” dowel shaft for my Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro to put in my luggage on the airplane. I just used it on the sandy beach and found Mexican coins and a hotel key.

@georgichaushev5617 7 ай бұрын

If the shaft is static relative to the coil it's not a problem. The GPX6000 will also pick up it's own control box if you could move it in front of the coil. The only problem here is illiteracy on how metal detectors work.

@phrunt 7 ай бұрын

@@georgichaushev5617 that's where you're wrong, the reason coils have a coil bolt and rubber washers is so you can move the coil to different angles to get it into places that having your coil flat won't go, often you're flattening the coil down to the shaft to get into rocky crevices which then the movement of the shaft towards the coil sets the detector off. Gold prospectors in particular will experience this problem.

@skulldiver 7 ай бұрын

Jeez...When You activated the prospecting audio profile I said "Holyyyyyyy craaaaaaaaap"😢... I wonder if the slight falsing on the first two IDs it might depends by this thing now.Really weird.

@MrGsani 6 ай бұрын

All Whites detectors as far as I know use metalic shafts. As long as they work tight or stationary to the coil then I don't see the problem

@phrunt 6 ай бұрын

Whites use Fiberglass. Please watch the video from the Fisher metal detectors engineer explaining the problem further, kzbin.info/www/bejne/oF6QlniBbLeGmpY