Mini Trophy Truck gets Twin I Beam Suspension! 1000cc Trophy Kart Pt. 5

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We wanted to fabricate twin I beam (aka twin traction beam) suspension for the mini trophy truck we're building simply because we had never tried it before. So far it's been trickier to set up than double wishbone, but at least we're getting over 12" of travel! The main benefit of twin I beam suspension is supposed to be its simplicity and durability, but given our lack of equipment, it was much more difficult for us to set up properly.
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[@modelrc9500]

I can’t wait to see this thing done! It’s defiantly going to need a skid plate though with that oil pan under there

[@iboomer2988]

Can’t wait until this project is finished

[@TheRougeWanderer]

Same here bud

[@BuildProne]

cant wait to grow my hair back

[@jdoggy9123]

Me two

[@jdoggy9123]

Build Prone I’m blad

[@drinkyourpgtips.]

I can gives me something to watch lol

[@vitor900000]

13:17 One thing! Steering Angle! Good Luck with that!

[@preetamdasika7636]

Hopefully with good offset it would work, that or increase the track width on the beams, lotta work ahead regardless

[@MasonsCustomPC]

I was just about to say the same thing! I know that the offset would be different with new wheels, but that front section of frame may still need to be slimmed down a bit to get a tighter steering angle. At the same time, a tighter steering angle might not be a great idea because it could be top heavy and cause it to tip. I'm really interested to see how this plays out!

[@SgtSidepiece]

Turbocharge it? I think a good 10psi of boost would do that thing wonders.

[@eriksimca9409]

you want to kill john and ike?

[@Shredxcam22]

How about instead of boost we tall about quanity of air. Boost is a bad way to measure effectiveness or increase in horsepower. A 25% increase in air density would be nice!

[@twilightravens9798]

A turbo on that thing would sound awesome

[@Spinddrift]

Probably would blow apart the poor old bmw engine in a matter of minutes😅

[@maniac7067]

@@Spinddrift These engines are far more ruggedly built than many modern bike engines and can stand up to12 psi without internal modification.

[@aydanangus]

6:18 visible grindhard confusion.

[@that_red_dentside3968]

True

[@scottcrawford6487]

i thought i was the only one who noticed the inspiration here lol

[@thedude7726]

When he said not this like, hes right. Grindhard actually knows how to build things. 😅😂😅😂😅😂

[@ChristopherHayniedd980]

Yeah it is.

[@ChristopherHayniedd980]

I love your minibike builds they are my favorite.

[@TSRGarage]

This is why I watch you guys. I like to see things that are done differently. I also like that you include some of the ideas and thought process involved. Too many people don't realize the thought (and decisions) that goes into building something. 👍 I am also subscribed to Ike's Channel.

[@CarsandCameras]

Big thanks to Keeps for sponsoring today's video!! Head to keeps.com/carsandcameras to learn more! We're slowly but surely getting there with this project! This is all new stuff for us, so it's slow going, but at least we're learning a lot!

[@calzonemoto4651]

Keep with the Basic mans garage theme. You can make the episodes 30min long too! I'd like to see a bit more detail on your techniques and failures. Thanks!

[@Jasonoid]

Trying out new things is such a challenge, but this build is putting you guys on a NEW LEVEL of skill! Keep up the hard work, remember to love each minute of your work, you guys have an awesome setup!

[@FloridaMan0561]

The guys are pumped for this build,you can see it in their faces. Hell yeah,this project is going great,I can't wait to see this beast ripping it up off road at a high speed!

[@1980bwc]

C-10 is lookin AWESOME John!

[@pirahna432]

This is a really ambitious project. Props to both of you for pushing through the challenges. That takes toughness that many do not possess.

[@chadscott2499]

Telling you guys I'll hook it up with some 20" king shock's

[@aaronbyard2051]

Email them please

[@skertwheels9421]

Aaron Byard yeah

[@levichapman1121]

Deff email them, I'm sure they would love it

[@romanbernal9157]

Do it send an email

[@thrillbillyjp1]

What u mean ul hookem iup. Sheez il will start a channel and a build to use them

[@jessehunt697]

You guys have definitely stepped it up with this build. The tubing bender makes a huge difference with fit and finish, nice work! It’s gonna turn out awesome!

[@fl350r]

I watched the entire show and didn't see one "I beam". Looks great though, keep up the great work.

[@LoneRevD]

Yeah 'Twin I-beam' I believe was a Ford term which used surprisingly I beam castings...

[@bigblockbumpside2296]

Reverend D yup. Its whats on my 68 f100. Check it out on my channel.

[@dakotadriggers8838]

It's more the geometry than the actual construction. No 4x4 ford trucks with twin I beams have actual I beams but that's what it's called

[@Yooled980]

@@dakotadriggers8838 I thought it had more do with the shape of the i-beams. The cross section of the suspension arms looked like an "I" except in a different font.

[@dakotadriggers8838]

@@Yooled980 that's why they called it that originally but now it's just any suspension setup using that same basic geometry

[@Angry-Lynx]

I love your work on suspension, getting as much travel as possible is the way to go! Cheers ;

[@crazyconcertkid4413]

I really love this series! Wish you’d post more

[@foxlogan6031]

So cool guys!!! Glad ur doing the twin I beam!!

[@kennithstanley8137]

Digging the build fellas! I do like the fact that you guys are experimenting with design concepts.

[@s14duma]

Love how you guys listen to your viewers! 👍 I mentioned mini trophy truck along with others and it actually came true. Keep it up you guys rock.

[@SportbikerNZ]

This is shaping up great. Can't wait to see that suspension working.

[@wolf_bmx_484]

Y'all should make a mudding kart with a quad motor like a 450

[@legowarriorsadventure3613]

Wolf_Bmx_48 did that already

[@bigfart6563]

Cr 500

[@broughttoideas]

Y'all

[@Tampaboys]

Great video guys it’s so cool how much travel you got out of that front I beam set up super sweet

[@kennethdispain1807]

Heck yeah guys looking awesome

[@jeremymorgan3918]

I just really want to say thank you guys I have been watching you all for a little over a month now and you have inspired me to build a drift trike and it turned out pretty good but I don't know how to put a picture on here or a video so thanks again cars and cameras I will be buying merchandise to help support the channel

[@ashleyhitomi6394]

Thanks for making my Monday great!!

[@DCDLaserCNC]

Excellent job guys! That front suspension does look pretty wild and I can see why it was tough to figure out. Keep up the great work!

[@eladvanallen8282]

can't wait to see how you guys make the steering work on this thing

[@davejones3038]

ikr?

[@bloodredhornet2704]

I ran into the same problem with Miata spindle/uprights on my reverse trike build. I had a crazy time finding a way to handle the taper in the lower ball joint which prevented me from using hiem joints like I wanted. I found that a Moog 772 screw in ball joint works for the bottom taper but bottoms out a little too far. I am now going to a set up that will use the factory Miata lower ball joint. It will only take a custom homebrew holder. In your situation you might consider going back to the factory lower ball joint. For the upper ball joint I was able to ream out the hole and go with a 1/2” grade 8 bolt and use the hiem like I originally planned. Can’t wait to see what your solution is so I can possible apply it to mine lol! Good luck.

[@loosescrewlab3605]

things lookin awesome cant wait til its time to send it !!!!!

[@danielwade7.62x51]

Love it man can't wait to see it all together

[@graveloverlord]

Guys I'm loving the build so far. Been watching for a long long time and can't wait to see this thing move along. This is giving me ideas on some projects of my own

[@mikebillman7234]

You guys rock. Long time fan here. Love all of your videos, makes life better to live. God bless you both

[@bigrudy91174]

Looks great, can't wait to see how you tie in the radius arms. Looks like it's going to be awesome.

[@welding7s.builds]

Looks great guys

[@SuperNicejohn]

Love suspension experimenting! Always fun to see what performs and lasts :)

[@stems9264]

I've been building a mini chopper and these guys are awesome for info fir me cause like them I don't have a bunch of fancy stuff. This thing will be a beast when its done, can't wait!

[@AllThingsElectric_]

I’ve followed you guys since 100k subscribers and seeing 800k is insane! Keep it up guys

[@davegillette953]

Love you guys keep up the good work!

[@TimTabb]

Love the videos and projects you guys work on, the Poulan race mower build was a good one as well cause I have a tractor I pulley swapped as well, not as advanced as yours lol but it goes about 40 mph with 5 inch front pulley and 3 inch rear in 6th gear with 20 hp v twin, although I have a gas pedal rigged up as well

[@boondockthompson8190]

what one person does not find this video awesome. These guys are doing what i wish i had time to do. Right on brothers, keep doing what you doing and build cool stuff.

[@thomascronin3179]

This is by far my favorite build you have done yet.

[@mlindsay527]

YOU GUYS ROCK! Keep up the good work!

[@terranceleedrums]

This is gonna be the sickest ride yet. Can’t wait to see how the suspension does on some jumps

[@slickniner]

The sweet, sweet victory of getting that pin out!!!

[@DanBuilds]

This is a great project. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

[@rodswim492]

I did say where Joh. Was talking about your trailing arms. I'm really curious how you guys tackle this. Great job.

[@Nunya_Bidnez]

You should add some gussets to the I beam Y to make it stronger. Just an idea. I had my questions about it not being full independent. Thanks for clearing it up for us. Keep on rock'n.

[@jamesparker2613]

This looks great so far

[@alvarosilveira7102]

Wow dude the trophy truck is really coming together I can’t wait to see how it turn out

[@sethcude]

You’ll do a great job keep it up, Love you’re project.

[@tungus951]

I would recommend pushing the I beam mounts on the cart further down to help eliminate possibility of scrap on compression of suspension, because trophy trucks design to take abuse of larger scale jumps and bumps at fast speeds, other than that I'd say it's pretty good so far, love the build can't wait to see the finish result

[@jadenroberts1175]

I would like to see and/or hear some of that rock n roll 😂

[@Dire_Panic]

Good job! Keep up the good work!

[@gerekappo]

Cant wait for you guys to build a garage for every unit to stay safe of elements! And you can work with more space too!

[@simonallan9941]

Just an idea for a liquid cooled rear engine, I put a Subaru motor in my beach buggy and used the chassis inside to feed the radiator at the front, saved having hoses everywhere and of course my welds didn't leak 😉, no problem with corrosion with nonferrous antifreeze and I didn't need a fan, worked awesome even as a heater kind of, I don't know why that method isn't used more often 🤗 cheers good show keep it up.

[@CasperRc81]

Want my hair back forget the kart😂. Nice video

[@RevXSCustoms]

Builds getting better each one,Hopefully get into this Ratrod Wagon RC car soon once madness settles and can source the parts I need!

[@mingusbreeze]

Thanks, guys that thing is looking real good I can't wait to see it go.

[@puskunk]

Good thing John did the Keeps ad, Ike is in his mid 40's and still has a full head of hair. Plus bonus John when he had long hair!

[@Dwayne7834]

It’s looking great. It’s may be y’all’s best yet. You might think about making a guard to protect the oil pan if you think it might hit something. Thanks for sharing

[@VloggingCountry]

this so cool your channel gets better and better

[@machine2747]

Looks great so far! May want to consider double shear on those inboard I-beam mounts.

[@curtisharrison4837]

Skid plate,badass guys.

[@yahvigaylor82]

Congratulations on getting a house with property for yourself and the channel and the trophy truck is looking to be a good build for the first in that shop good job.

[@maniac7067]

This project lend itself to rubber band suspension. It`s cheap, simple and effective and a number of diy racecars are built in the UK using this. Even Alec Issigonis designed a racecar with rubber band suspension.

[@mcsstudios101]

Damn John. You played? Cool. Share some demos....👊✌👍

[@deranged731]

Drop those inner pivots to the lower tube. This will allow you to build in 4-6" of distance between the chassis and the ground at full bump. This too will allow you to droop out more with less scrub. Also, shoot for a 1.5:1 motion ratio for the shocks. 1.5" of travel for 1" of shock stroke. Your back and oil pan will thank you. LOL

[@lpkendolol1481]

Thank you very good vídeo desde colonbia charley

[@bongzonthebeat]

Twin i beam has been a dream of mine for go carts for so long simply because fun and travel and the ease of simplicity once its together

[@chadneuman1945]

Amazing build

[@jfranksenior7509]

Your hair looks great John 😍

[@skipgrumblis]

Build looks great! Sorry to hear about your small package.

[@galaxie500xl7]

You're gonna have some crazy bump steer. I'm waiting to see how you handle that.

[@SheDevilsGarage]

Love the videos keep them coming if yall need a break go for it no hard feelings

[@musclecarmaniac6786]

Looking very kool...and John, didn't know you played guitar, I've been playing for over 40 years...very kool.

[@shawntl]

Going to be nice keep up the great work

[@nasanction]

Front to back, that thing is gonna buckle... Sometimes things don't go as planned, and you just have to back track. It's ok guys, "FOR THE BUILD!"

[@radio_atisradio_atis8124]

You guys need to install an engine hoist (block and chain tackle) into the attic space and lift some of your projects up into the rafter/attic to keep them out of the weather and out of the way. Simple hole in the floor to pull up through and then slide some floor joists across when you don't need it.

[@ForOdin]

People run twin I beams because you can get a TON of wheel travel out of them, not to mention it can keep the contact patch flatter when cornering. Make sure you spend time on the steering, beams tend to have bump steer issues unless the steering is spot on in setup.

[@vizgaudis]

“We have a small package” - Ike

[@bentvalve340]

Damn. Beat me to it. Lmao👍

[@jamesburbank5368]

You can see him pause as he thinks to himself "I hope some dude named Zach doesn't quote me on this..."

[@thedude7726]

@T Bone makes alot of sence if ya think bout it

[@montanawildcat5198]

Been real busy. Your machines are Really getting intense.

[@240sxking5]

So awesome

[@norsevikingsir4932]

Run a support from about 3 inches up on the higher part of the y joint, back to where it connects to the frame and it would beef up that single piece of pipe and work as a bump stop.

[@danielleheiget4517]

You guys should see if you can get Monroe max air shocks for that trophy truck, that’s what bare metal fabrication has on his golf cart and you can get them with up to 11 inches of travel.

[@dodgeme1986truck]

They should make their own version of the m274 mule for not only working on the tracks but to also move the carts/buggies, etc. Around

[@19702260]

Wow, i love watching you guys biuld somthing like this. I think it will be a challenge to get it set up. But hay. It'll be fine

[@BatMan-vc3df]

Now it's all coming together

[@rickyde0255]

Excellent.

[@jonvenden4284]

You can use a ford ranger from the 80's through mid 90's twin I-beams. You can gut a fourwheel drive axle from the same era these are c channel you can chop and bend. They do that all the time at autofab. With the stock ford radius arms most of these vehicles will do six inches of travel. Extend the arm to help eliminate bind and 12 inches come easy. Most ford bronco's, f150's, and ranger's using autofab products will crank out 16 inches of travel pending on set up. Fords were meant to fly. The Ford raptor just uses ifs to achieve the end result but they have to make them wider than stock hence the reason for clearance lights.

[@woodstar2722]

Keep up the good content 👍

[@johnconroy9555]

This build is going to be sick guys cant wait to see the end result... Have you thought about mounting the radiator in the rear to protect it with a horizontal cooling fan could be a good idea....john.... Australia😎

[@Flashthegreat56]

It’s my birthday today, thank you guys for uploading great content can’t wait for Wednesday

[@dream2sea]

Happy Birthday, Flash!

[@Flashthegreat56]

Bad Rad thank you

[@paulplampron]

Your truck is looking good!

[@robertmiller5735]

pickle fork, greatest unsung tool of all. !

[@jamierushing625]

Hi y’all love y’all show from west Alabama

[@addaydan7053]

I have so much more respect for John now that I know he played guitar haha. Rock on🤘🏻

[@IcedogFiredog]

Love your videos

[@Hamsteren91]

She is a beast!👌

[@glendecuir6317]

All awesomeness