Mini Tub wheel well in one piece? Doubtful - Episode 3

Episode 3 - Wheel well series finale! In this episode I finish planishing out the second wheel well on the Milwaukee air planisher. I talk about time frames, radial stretch, planishing, checking for teh desired radius and getting the wheel well wrapped up.

[@Marty59143]

Best teacher award goes to you . High standards= quality. Well done.

[@bobgaylord8883]

Damn! I wish you & KZbin had been around 60+ years ago. Great series.

[@patrickmontgomery6353]

I watched all 3 videos back to back. Feels like it was over in 5 minutes. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. True craftsmanship.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed them

[@ZTFab1]

Awesome series Mike! "Only a poor Craftsman blames the tool". It doesn't matter if you use hand tools or power and planishing hammers, you still have to know what the hell you're doing! Not only do you understand the art, you can teach it in a clear and concise way! Thanks for the thorough look into how you make such beautiful parts.

[@RonCovell]

Mike - your demonstrations and explanations are top-notch! I'll be eager to see what you cover next.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks Ron I appreciate it. Hopefully we can catch up at SEMA

[@RonCovell]

I'll be looking for you. Guessing you'll be hanging around at the Baleigh booth?@@cornfieldcustoms

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@RonCovell yea i will be there from 9-11 and 2-4 each day

[@donaldsnyder4795]

Totally awesome. I love the way you break it down and explain it. Thanks for taking the time to explain why you do how you do it. You can even go a little further into detail. Thanks again.

[@KevinHalliburton]

This was a great series. I'm glad Karl with Make it Kustom pointed me your way, you are an excellent teacher, thank you.

[@user-bh5mp5cm9p]

nothing boring here.watched every minute of 1,2 and 3.i've said for a 100 years,good enough is never good enough.great work,loving it.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching and supporting the channel

[@JimGarver-tx8rj]

I'm always amazed how sheet metal can shaped and formed. It takes people like you with special knowledge and skills and the right tools to make it happen. Great fun watching.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out

[@kellyjones841]

Thanks for the details of the shapes and the dies

[@andyvoytko]

Liking the concise explanations. Some parts with a reverse curve would be great.

[@boblewis4664]

Probably one of the best videos I have seen, Great job !!!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Wow, thanks!

[@moormarx9248]

Hi Mike, that was a great series. appreciate the time and effort you put in these educational videos, i'm trying to absorbe as much as I can and hopefully beeing able to use them in practice.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for the support and for watching

[@patrickharrand]

Good stuff Mike. It's almost like a magician revealing his secrets. I know it's not magic but to see it done is amazing. Makes me want to build a power hammer. Thanks again for sharing your skills with us.👍👍❤

[@kirkstamper3800]

Excellent videos on wheel tubs! I learned alot. You did a great job explaining everything. Looking forward to more! Thanks for taking the time to do this.

[@og190]

Loved it. I definitely look forward to more videos like this . For the record, you made those way faster than I thought it would have taken I thought realistically about 20 hours to make the pair .so now we have something to go off of adding time realizing that you have tons of experience and the equipment .

[@matthewb8229]

As I was often told by a good friend, "better is the arch enemy of good enough." Know when to say when. I readily admit, you produce some fantastic stuff.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, good enough is not a language i speak

[@michaelfarino9048]

That's amazing!! I am so glad I found this series. Thank you

[@floridian7143]

Thanks for sharing! Always interesting and informative! I'll keep watching!

[@mysteriousstranger239]

Thx Mike hope more people watch this so they understand why it cost so much to get this stuff done, also I would like to see a firewall build if it ever comes up in the future 👍👍

[@wayneikola2650]

Seeing things from beginning to end is the right thing to do.

[@lenturtle7954]

They would be very expensive . However you would have a tub above the rest . Thats way faster than i expected . Polish them and clear coat . Amazing !!!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Expensive is a relative term. To get something hand made for a custom application that you cant pick up at a retail store isnt cheap, but when you need it it you need it

[@scarr397]

Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I appreciate your how to and your craftsmanship

[@user-ci1ji1td2k]

I use a TM air Power Hammer. While I really appreciate that you are using different power equipment, the information you provide is universal…One point I got from your excellent presentation is that I’ve been setting my planishing settings too hard; so I’m getting too much stretch before getting the smoothness…this is from oil on the surface but also not being patient enough…which you did a great job articulating! Great Channel! Great work! Thank you!

[@stephengent9974]

Excellent work Mike

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks 👍

[@drive42]

I just finished watching all three parts. VERY informative! I struggle with how to correct a defect in a panel. For instance, I butt weld two pieces of metal to make a drip pan. It comes out kind of wavy around the weld sometimes, and other times the weld area is pretty flat but the corners of the pan are distorted and will not lay flat. I would be interested in knowing whether a shrink or stretch is needed to get things 'happy', and some tell-tale signs on how to diagnose the root causes of distortions.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

if it happens after welding it will always be stretching the weld and HAZ

[@jameswhitener123]

When it comes to learning there's not a damn thing boring and you my friend really got me interested I wish I could do the quality of work that you do go for it big guy I always work for 100% not 80%

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you very much, I appreciate the support

[@davidreames7032]

Great series. Yes I want to see it all. Great information.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out and supporting the channel

[@jasonfikes9514]

Definitely enjoy how you explain the process on your videos. Great video as always. ✌️😁

[@daveluce1578]

Actually you're pretty good breaking down keep it simple teacher thank you very much I learned a lot watching you on that episode I watched all spray

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

Loved this series. Makes me want a power hammer even more now.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out. A power hammer is a game changer for sure

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

@@cornfieldcustoms Hey I’m looking at your metal shaping classes. If I have some basic experience already would you suggest I sign up for the advanced class?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@sparksandgritgarage555 everyone has to take my 101 class first before moving onto a more advanced class

[@sparksandgritgarage555]

@@cornfieldcustoms fair enough. Thanks.

[@chrissandberg8856]

The method is the best way for me to learn whether it's by machine or hand tools. You explain it fantastically and it makes perfect sense for me to apply it to hand tools. Great job please keep up with more just like this series. TX Mr fixit Chris

[@adambergendorff2702]

Great job of teaching! I love seeing the machinery, as soon as a hammer and bag come out I zone out.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@gobinsura]

Great videos! Loving the detailed serries.

[@chrisroberts5973]

Well done. I appreciate the detail.

[@paulbrooks9327]

Great info, the quality is awesome

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Much appreciated!

[@jasonsanders979]

Well done, after watching 3 videos on this I've not only decided that you are a pro a it but I've also came to realize with just a little more training I believe you could almost be ready to step into the ring with Tyson. Looks like a pretty good workout!

[@patofdubois1]

Man, I tell you: people have no idea what this type of labour involves. This is worth a crap ton of money! Awesome work

[@ChrisWMF]

These were good. Thanks for sharing

[@jackpledger8118]

Really great series...I always learn something useful when watching your videos. Please keep it up.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching and checking out my channel

[@glenmiller3783]

Great series Mike

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks

[@dougwernham5209]

Excellent video very helpful thank you.

[@cowfrank]

Greetings from AZ Carl Fisher sent me..

[@bensclassicbodywork]

Brilliant set of videos, subscribed!

[@brokennsmoken]

New subscriber. Great job! Anybody that has louvers tatted on there arm got to know what they’re doing!

[@terrycarter8929]

That is a dieing art. The aluminum english cars used these techniques. Thanks for sharing a how too video.

[@michaelkorolev2115]

Thank you so much for making these videos, I have a strong passion to learn and you explain things really well and I appreciate that some videos I try to learn something from confuse me. But yours are easy to understand. Keep putting out videos I’ll definitely watch them

[@theoldstationhand]

Great video, lots of info in this one. Cheers

[@SheetMetalShaping]

Nice job Mike. Detailed in explanation and in craftsmanship.

[@joeschlotthauer840]

13:05 thank you.

[@FilterYT]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@matthewmanuel8655]

Great job on both the part and the explaination. I'd like to see your take on a compound curve such as a 30s front fender. If you find yourself in a situation where you need to create one, make sure you record it!!

[@dougcharest5886]

Great explanation, beautifull work!

[@paulnewton943]

Nice work Mike. Yes more like these please. Wish I could do your class this weekend especially after this 3 part series, so many questions. Hope more people from make it customs look you up so your channel can grow, that way we can get mote great tutorials like this

[@TheTubeTube2]

A superb series, truly masterful, thank you.

[@craigwilson5631]

Thanks for the series Mike, I sure did learn a lot, Keep them coming.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@petersmith1076]

Love all your content so I'm easy gr8 video thanks

[@testpilot6456]

Very informative, thanks for taking the time from your schedule.

[@bdpgarage]

Awesome work!

[@dennisschickling2249]

Love your Work. Don't have the money to pay for the Equipment. But Love to learn. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY🇺🇸

[@trevorpowell7084]

Great stuff! Id love to see more on the plannishing hammer techniques ive got my JRM hammer and im not usesless with it but i like to see how guys use em and the techniques to get those super refined parts and pieces

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It just takes time to work the panel. Most people just stop before the panel is correct

[@joell439]

👍👍😎👍👍 thanks for the lesson - stunning results.

[@user-fq7xg4yk8v]

I HAVE JUST NOW SUBSCRIBED. THIS SERIES CONVINCED ME. I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU COULD DO US SOMETHING ON ONE PIECE WINDOW SILL REPAIRS . MY PROBLEM WITH THIS TYPE OF JOB IS THE EFFECT THE STRETCH ON ONE OF THE CURVES HAS ON THE SHRINK ON THE OTHER CURVE YOU NEED TO CREATE AND VISA VERSA.

[@greglammers9905]

Love it. Nice work. Keep the videos coming

[@georgehill6569]

I love the way you explain things. I wish you had more time to go into more detail

[@davetyson2331]

good info thanks

[@normancurd8719]

hand tools or power tools! no matter! I love the metal working content.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@matthewbrown5677]

Top info....Matt PPC.

[@justanoldman697]

turning vain rail for a tattoo on your right forearm! Never seen that before. Interesting.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@justanoldman697 whats a turning vain rail?

[@williamaguiar14]

These series are doing well

[@robertbasile4191]

Fantastic video series. Really eye opening to the power of the power hammer. I have to wonder, in terms of productivity, those particular wheel wells, what the comparison in time invested would be to make them in two pieces and welding down the center of the radius. Great stuff. Id be interested in a video on reverses. Thanks a lot!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching. As far as making it in 2 pieces I am not sure it could be done as fast and yield as nice of a finish as doing it one piece. you would have about 2 hours of trimming, fitting, and welding the 2 halves, plus finishing out the weld seam.

[@robertbasile4191]

@cornfieldcustoms one of the coolest things I've ever seen done was David Gardiners dvd where he makes a very similar wheel well by cutting a half circle out of flat sheet, then gas welding the top to it directly at 90 degrees.....then chasing it all out on a stake dolly to create a radius. Super impressive. I bet you could knock one out super fast with the planisher.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@robertbasile4191 maybe, but just not the approach I would take personally. Thats the good thing about metal shaping is many ways to do things you just have to find the way that works best for you

[@robertbasile4191]

@cornfieldcustoms undoubtedly your end finish level is superior to that particular method but it blew my mind when I saw that. It's one of the reasons I really enjoy gas welding. Only problem is I tend to undercut it that way some. Anyway I appreciate your time

[@scramblr08]

I dont think people realize that you dont charge by the part when you are building custom stuff like that, you charge by the hour and if you had to hand hammer those out, nobody would want to pay for them. It's great that you read the comments, but you will drive yourself crazy trying to explain yourself to youtube certified fabricators/metalworkers. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to Karl Fisher coming down so I can plan a trip and meet you both.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching, i dont answer all the questions all the time.

[@joeschlotthauer840]

If the part is oiled, and you planish that part, can you impregnate the part with oil, and later on have trouble finishing that part with paint?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I have never had an issue with paint work down the line from oil on the panel. When sheet metal is made and shipped it is oiled you just have to clean it well

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Awesome Job! I could use those! LOL

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I can make you a set

[@axlefoley3369]

I've always had the most difficulty with shrinking , especially on a low crown or flat surface . Any tips for someone without large power equipment. Wheel wells look beautiful

[@froat1]

For grins could you please put a micrometer on the two surfaces to see what the differences are? Yes, could you mic it Mike?

[@JosePacheco-jw3kc]

Good morning Man I love your channel you explain things very well for people like myself that don’t do this for a living. Right now I’m saving money for a power hammer. The one you have is an awesome machine. What would you suggest for somebody that’s on a budget and do not want to take up too much real estate in the shop.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

power hammers are tough due to them being pretty big and get expensive. The baileigh MH-19 is what i started with and has a pretty small footprint

[@warrenolds625]

What gauge steel are you typically using? I'm focused on motorcycle fabrication and would appreciate your input as to what gauge and grade aluminum you would use for that application. Thanks, Warren

[@cornfieldcustoms]

In steel i mostly stick to 19 gauge, and in aluminum 16 gauge

[@Steve-gp1lh]

That's amazing! I'd like to know how thick the metal is on the edge where you've done the most shrinking.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It got thicker by .014

[@benjaminpendley6116]

Absolutely beautiful. However, how much benefit is there to this method vs a two piece tub that you metal finish? Is it just a really cool thing you have the skill to do, or more historically accurate, or what? Love this stuff

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I feel it is faster, over all more efficient and less work to get a nicer finished part

[@gregdonald1961]

HI Mike, Love the series. Quik question on the spec for the sheet metal your using?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Just standard run of the mill 18 gauge cold finish

[@gregdonald1961]

Thanks@@cornfieldcustoms

[@kellywarden7042]

So what would happen if when you get to that "almost finished" point you use a big round over on a bead roller to try to refine the radius?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Not really sure why you would do that, but i guess could as long as your tooling doesnt bite the edges

[@blue32nu]

I'd would be curious as to how you would go about creating custom frame rails. What is your process? Can all the bends be done on the same tooling (short and long parts of the tubing)? It could be a 5-minute video or, however, long. Other than that, I'm enjoying your series and the format

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@blue32nu I have a bunch of tube bending videos on here already

[@SuperBossman9]

Does the planishing hammer put any shape into the part or is it minimal if you keep it moving? Is that the skill with that tool? To stop the part from changing shape?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Adding shape on the planisher comes down to die pressure, air pressure and the radius tool your using. I use the planisher for smoothing and refining not adding shape

[@christiancazzato7836]

Hey Mike . I‘m always struggle with pre Stretch work for beading in the pullmax. Could you explain in your Serie s . Whats the indicator for more or less pre Stretch. Thank you for your Service 👍🏻.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

I have a video on here already that shows how to accurately calculate for pre stretch

[@jankermer443]

Hi Mike, very interesting video series, very well explained, would like to see more videos like this. My respect and admiration for that! Here too, as in part 2, a question. If you make 2 symmetrical fenders in this way with the tools and you want them to fit perfectly on a wooden or wire frame. Do you have to shrink a little more when shrinking? Since the material stretches again when smoothing and planishing, as you also explain in your comments about planishing. Or is the stretch so small that you don't have to shrink it anymore? Greetings from the other side of the world ;-)

[@cornfieldcustoms]

If you want them to fit perfect on a buck you would have to do what needs done to get that result. It may need more shrink in some spots or stretch in another. It all comes down to how it lays on the buck

[@jankermer443]

@@cornfieldcustoms Working towards the buck is clear to me. I meant it fundamentally. Do you have to shrink a little more than is actually necessary (as in the example 90 degrees), because the material is expanded again by planishing in the planishing hammer. Of course, you could shrink and flatten again if necessary. If you shrink it a little tighter in advance and have it fit perfectly after leveling, important working time would be saved. Is this a typical workshop process?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

no i usually dont over shrink unless i get bad tooling marks that need worked out. the blending and planishing process dont change the over all shape of panel much unless you get carried away. to over shrink would not always save time, if you over shrank slightly to much you would have to hammer that back out, when its faster to shrink a touch more as needed.

[@jankermer443]

@@cornfieldcustoms Okay, thanks for the explanation.

[@gary3475]

Good lob, one question what gauge metal did you use? Would it work with 16ga? Gary

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, the process is the same for material type and thickness ( with in reason). The only thing to take into account with 16 gauge is it is heavier and thicker so it will be harder to work with and be a little slower

[@designandbuild3953]

I'll mirror all the positivity below, and kudos on first name basis with Mr. Ron Covell! Your OCD is awesome, never apologize for it, it is your gift as a fabricator. Call them "quality tips", all good.

[@ChannelJanis]

I watched from start till end and still can't believe that is the same piece of metal. How much did the thickness change?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

It got thicker by .014 at the shrunk edge