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Mirage's Mysterious Backstory and Future Explained! | Incredibles Theory: Discovering Disney

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Isaac Carlson

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@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think? Do you think Mirage was raised to be a secret agent? Let me know below! Also.... if you want that Incredibles 2 shirt and want to support the channel you can purchase it at wotsostore.com ! Thanks so much for watching and have a magical day!
@eli4431
@eli4431 6 жыл бұрын
Oh and descendants vid please
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@aaaj.1141 6 жыл бұрын
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@TheMoviemaker108
@TheMoviemaker108 6 жыл бұрын
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@CA-ds4hg
@CA-ds4hg 6 жыл бұрын
Wotso Videos Can you do Ernesto De La Cruz please?? Thanks :)
@androsthewarriorhighalpha
@androsthewarriorhighalpha 6 жыл бұрын
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@mishmashmixofstuff
@mishmashmixofstuff 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think not wanting children to be killed is a sign of a troubled childhood and wanting to protect innocence. I think it is a biological response of being human.
@bres.4806
@bres.4806 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's definitely reaching with that one. Most ppl's instincts are to protect children.
@scrappy673
@scrappy673 4 жыл бұрын
Even the Iranian air force are like that, and their considered unstable! An Iranian jet intercepted a Commercial aircraft, the pilot saw the children through the passenger windows and instantly retreated and called off the incident to Command Controllers.
@hexmaniacgabby5160
@hexmaniacgabby5160 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you have to have some brain hardware issues to want to hurt/kill a child
@AKHV9708
@AKHV9708 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly their are humans who don't have that logic
@ancienthearts1280
@ancienthearts1280 4 жыл бұрын
@@hexmaniacgabby5160 Like Hitler?
@emilymeehan4296
@emilymeehan4296 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think Mirage was ever really evil. I think she was just someone who was used and betrayed. She was willing to do what Syndrome told her to do because maybe he was the only one that "loved" her, or just shared common interests with. But when he crosses the line, her eyes were finally open to who he really was. A monsterous villain. And she did what she knew was right, by freeing mr incredible, and helping him and his family defeat the one who she now despised. 😌💥
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 4 жыл бұрын
But her action is more than enough to landing her in fire squad
@jays9913
@jays9913 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered why she trusted syndrome in the first place. I think Sydrome is the person who trained her and why she is as talented as she is.
@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291
@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291 3 жыл бұрын
Love can make you do weird things, that's for sure.
@artisticalex1206
@artisticalex1206 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment.
@GM-kp7yw
@GM-kp7yw 2 жыл бұрын
@@justnoob8141 I think she was aware of that, taking in account Mr Incredible almost broke her neck
@thedanceparty2078
@thedanceparty2078 6 жыл бұрын
TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ELIZABETH PENA VOICED MIRAGE (1959- 2014) REST IN PEACE
@noahmizen7001
@noahmizen7001 5 жыл бұрын
Could aranda grande really replace mirage's voice
@king.savagekingdom9929
@king.savagekingdom9929 5 жыл бұрын
Rip
@karlitoswwe
@karlitoswwe 5 жыл бұрын
Rip mirage
@dexter5633
@dexter5633 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh this is why she is not in inc 2
@kendylbigelow3097
@kendylbigelow3097 4 жыл бұрын
Rosie from La Bamba
@KB-tg7pf
@KB-tg7pf 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the idea that Mirage was raised to be a spy. I feel like if that were the case, she would have lost the part of herself that feels empathy or sorrow. Her reaction to the children and her sadness for Mr. Incredible when they believed his family to be dead looks very motherly to me. She either lost a baby or was never able to have one for some reason. She clearly loves children and has a fierce protective nature.
@aliannaholcomb6745
@aliannaholcomb6745 6 жыл бұрын
Kaytie Buckhalt I agree with your theory
@raiganw221
@raiganw221 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree
@user-fm4nu1tl4p
@user-fm4nu1tl4p 6 жыл бұрын
Now you've got me thinking she's Ellie from Up.
@user-fm4nu1tl4p
@user-fm4nu1tl4p 6 жыл бұрын
sumiko mak xze xin It was a joke
@duo3761
@duo3761 6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@SharpDesign
@SharpDesign 6 жыл бұрын
mirage was beautiful. I really hope she comes back
@CorHellekin
@CorHellekin 6 жыл бұрын
Trevor Cutler seems unlikely. Her voice actress, Elizabeth Penã, died in 2014 and Disney seems to be very... Attached to the voice actors of its characters. But I'm not sure thought.
@omarperez9358
@omarperez9358 6 жыл бұрын
Mary Strawberry Whoa no way she passed away?Oh
@SharpDesign
@SharpDesign 6 жыл бұрын
Dang, I had no idea
@DareToBeDeviant
@DareToBeDeviant 6 жыл бұрын
She doesn't need to have many lines. After all, Fillmore was still used in the _Cars_ sequels after George Carlin passed and Lloyd Sherr said a few lines for the character. Then there's Blake Clark who subbed for Slink's voice after Jim Varney. All the good people are going! :(
@ne9835
@ne9835 6 жыл бұрын
Damn
@infirmarygloomii3761
@infirmarygloomii3761 5 жыл бұрын
RIP to her voice actor who died in 2014. I wish she could’ve lived longer 💕 she made this character so loved yet so underrated. Honestly she deserves so much more respect. Not only for what voice acting she did but just as a person.
@itzangel9379
@itzangel9379 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, She died? Now i know the reason why mirage's character doesnt show up in the second incredibles anymore its sad her voice actor died :(
@kwanholloway4112
@kwanholloway4112 Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't know that her voice actor died. I love mirage voice. It's sultry and velvet at the same time. Damn
@SezFrancis1
@SezFrancis1 6 жыл бұрын
I always had a soft spot for Mirage; she is a divided individual who turns sides whoever she’s with. This is an incredible question (had to use that pun...); I think Mirage wasn’t raised to be a secret agent but she was raised to become someone. My own thoughts on this comes from Mirage’s own experiences in her past. Somehow, she didn’t plan to be an agent; it was either by chance or someone she knew like Buddy talked her into becoming a spy 🕵️‍♀️. Either way, I guess we’ll never know. 🦋✨
@ravenqueen4192
@ravenqueen4192 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Jojo-dt6lm
@Jojo-dt6lm 6 жыл бұрын
Sez Francis I honestly agree with you completely but it is still a nice thought.
@gabagaba7144
@gabagaba7144 5 жыл бұрын
Sez Francis I do think o I really want her back in incredibles 3
@justinwilliams7324
@justinwilliams7324 2 жыл бұрын
You're projecting yourself on her like a mirage.
@TekiraIsKing
@TekiraIsKing 6 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec, wasn't Mirage after Frozone first? In the car, before Frozone and Mr. Incredible went to the burning building, she said "He's not alone, the fat guy is still with him." Were Buddy and Mirage about to eliminate Frozone until Bob got in the way? I'm just sayin it would be an interesting theory.... but anyways, awesome video!!!!
@himikebye
@himikebye 6 жыл бұрын
You are on the right track, remember the scene in Syndrones Lair where Mr Incredible saw the plans for project Kronos? It showed us that Mr Incredibles location was ‘unknown’, but Frozone what ‘known’. So fortunately it does look like Bob did get in the way.
@TekiraIsKing
@TekiraIsKing 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Exactly! This really could have been a completely different movie!
@thedailyembarassment
@thedailyembarassment 6 жыл бұрын
And after Mr. Incredible and Frozone left the burning building, a voice on the radio says to mirage, "Are you sure you wanna switch targets?" and Mirage says "Trust me. This is the one he's been looking for."
@TekiraIsKing
@TekiraIsKing 6 жыл бұрын
The Daily Heflin and Friends Oh snap! I did not catch that! Thanks for pointing that out! (I need to watch this movie again...)
@mananexus
@mananexus 6 жыл бұрын
The Daily Heflin and Friends yeah and later when mister incredible was looking through the list of killed supers elasta girl and frozone names mean they were targets as well.
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought Mirage's name sure is fitting for her. She's like a mirage. By the by, I think Mirage is still more of an antihero than an hero per se. That rather calculating and bit morally ambiguous side of her isn't quite fitting to make her the stereotype hero in my opinion. But yeah, it seems like at the end of the day, she decided to do the "right" thing.
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 6 жыл бұрын
And you know, antiheroes with a criminal/dark history or a reformed bad guy often becomes the most efficient person to save the day.
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 6 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest reason Mirage and Buddy had a connection is because both of them were “misunderstood” throughout their difficult childhood. We obviously know of Buddy’s story. He was a really intelligent kid who and who inspired to be good somehow (his infatuation with a superhero that constantly contribute towards society is a sign of it) but because of people being not so understanding or sensitive enough to tend to his emotional needs made him the bitter man-child he became. I think Mirage had something similar. My theory is that she’s from a criminal family and her family exploited Mirage’s intelligence and desire to be loved with no regards for her as a person, and the end she was branded as a cold and calculating criminal. I think that’s why she as able to understand and sympathize with Buddy at the beginning and was that devoted to him (because of their unhappy childhood) and the reason why she’s unwilling to hurt children.
@sargentrowell81
@sargentrowell81 6 жыл бұрын
I hate to burst a bubble in your theory here but, the mugger tossing the wallet aside doesn't mean he didn't take anything. It's VERY possible that he ONLY took the cash he had on him, just because any debit/credit cards he could take might be cancelled before he gets a chance to use them. This doesn't mean your wrong in your assumption that he could have been hired by Mirage. It's actually very likely I'd say, now that you've pointed it out. Sure he might NOT have taken anything, but we don't know for sure. That's just what muggers usually do. Take the cash and leave the cards.
@CodiacMusic
@CodiacMusic 2 жыл бұрын
They…. Didn’t have debit cards in 1963… He prolly just took the cash and tossed it cause all he cared about was the cash
@hannahwren6289
@hannahwren6289 6 жыл бұрын
Hold on…Mirage is a well trained spy yes? And even if she was not a super herself, what if she was RELATED to a super? If you believe the theory that the government gave the supers their powers, then it would stand to reason that Mirage would know a bit about this program. If you look at her character design, it bears striking resemblance to a certain Incredibles II character that we don’t know much about. She is very similar to the new super Voyd’s design. They both have pale-colored Almond eyes, tan skin, and attached earlobes. (And yes there are characters with detached earlobes). That would also explain how she got involved with the gov. plan to take Syndrome down. If they were truly related, she would have a personal investment in halting Syndrom’s destruction of the supers. I don’t know, but it’s a pretty interesting theory.
@agsinc342
@agsinc342 6 жыл бұрын
Hannah Wren yeah. And when she was suppose to shoot down the children, she almost blew her cover by refusing to do so. It still doesn’t explain why she got mad at Syndrome for gambling on her life. If she was really spying on him, she wouldn’t have gotten mad. Spies die all the time and Mirage should know this. So her acting up afterwards makes no sense.
@noahmizen7001
@noahmizen7001 5 жыл бұрын
I think these people are born with powers not given them
@katherinkeegan8601
@katherinkeegan8601 5 жыл бұрын
@@noahmizen7001 I think the government might have helped to create the first supers and then let nature take over. I suspect that the supers were tracked before going into hiding. They may or may not have realized they were spied on before but actually agreed to be 'watched over' after society turned on them. If this theory is correct, by the time of #2 the government may have needed to reactivate the supers to get their money's worth out of the project. Enter Dicker's protogete. Did he suspect his sister had gone to the dark side? Remember his response was 'What did you do?' not 'How could you do this?' Did he know what she was doing the whole time? He also seemed very unconcerned about his sister's fate. Did he already know what would happen to her because he had already cut a deal for her? Something to think about.
@rzwitdauncut
@rzwitdauncut 2 жыл бұрын
@@katherinkeegan8601 “ the supers were tracked before going into hiding” can you imagine this in real life? imagine if the government was this dumb enough to experiment and gave people powers and they managed to get away. OF COURSE they will get away. have they not seen the movies? if you make a mutation happen there is no telling what will happen.
@katherinkeegan8601
@katherinkeegan8601 2 жыл бұрын
@@rzwitdauncut IKR, They can't keep track of their own spies these be days let alone created mutants. Can you imagine being created then told you had to do whatever they said because they owned you? I would not wish that on anyone.
@MustaAlanko
@MustaAlanko Жыл бұрын
Mirage is a beautiful woman and in addition to her looks, her character enchanted me, but not in a way that I'm completely obsessed with her now, but I would still like to be her good friend and support her in life because she's quite similar to the 2020 Mulan's Xianniang: They were both villains at first but then they both chose the good and noble path. Mr. Incredible was a good man, and it really touched my heart when he thanked Mirage with a warm hug of gratitude for freeing him and for the telling him that her family was alive, and when Helen hit him, whether it was just an accident or not (if she was really going to hit her husband) so I don't like that at all, but I'm happy for Mirage that she turned her back on evil and chose the path of goodness to help the Incredibles overcome the darkness of evil created by the Syndrome. I really hope that she and the Incredibles are now good friends, allies with each other and she would always be on the good side (at least I've read online that in the Incredibles comics Mirage had joined the NSA and was Helen's ally in the operation to defeat a bad guy named Xerex even though those stories are non-canonical due to the production and release of the film The Incredibles 2 but we hope that she has still done what is right by herself as far as everyone is concerned) If Incredibles 3, and maybe even 4 will come one day, then let's pray that Mirage will be there, even though her voice actress Elizabeth Peña died in 2014, to be replaced by someone else, and she would be a wonderful and lovable family friend of the superhero family and that he himself would have a family of his own i.e. a husband and maybe his own son, daughter or both and she would be as rich and happy as the Incredibles in terms of finances, as well as family and friends!!
@diyjeepguy7713
@diyjeepguy7713 6 жыл бұрын
i really hope that they reference Mirage in Incredibles 2, she was one of my favorite characters, i also liked Violet, and jack jack of course, i think it would be cool if Mirage was secretly hired to keep an eye on the Parr family and eventually helped train/take care of the Parr children, she was just a cool character that i wish they could expand upon
@matthewcorbin
@matthewcorbin 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Also, I have a theory about how Mirage met Syndrome and who Mirage was a spy for immediately before joining with Syndrome. So, the Incredibles takes place in 1962 based off of the newspaper Bob Parr is reading when he finds out about Gazerbeam's disappearance I believe. In other words, it takes place during the Cold War. I think this is great because it makes total sense with Syndrome. I believe that Syndrome sold weapons to both sides of the Cold War: Russia and her allies, and the US and her allies. Didn't he say himself that he sold weapons to some governments? Makes sense in context of the Cold War. Next, I believe that Mirage was the representative of the Cuban government when Syndrome sold weapons to the Castro regime. Fidel Castro took over Cuba in 1959, just before the Incredibles. So if Mirage is a from Cuba, then maybe she was originally a part of Castro's intelligence. Do we have evidence Mirage is Cuban? Yes. Her voice actress, Elizabeth Pena, was of Cuban descent. I'm not sure how the theory holds up, but I believe that in 1959 Syndrome offered to sale weapons to the Castro regime. Mirage, a spy for the Cuban intelligence, was chosen to go visit Syndrome and arrange the weapons deal with him. But why would she stay? To stop the American supers! Clearly, the United States government has a lot of control over the supers. Maybe Mirage and the Castro regime were worried that, if the Cold War turned hot, the US government would use the supers as weapons against Russia and Cuba. I believe that when Mirage learned that Syndrome was destroying all the supers, she resigned from her position in the Castro regime so she could ensure that the United States government could NEVER use the supers against them. If the supers are dead, the government can't use them. TL;DR: I believe that Mirage was a Cuban spy for the Castro regime who met Syndrome when arranging a weapons deal and stayed with Syndrome to take out the supers so America can't use them against Cuba.
@baka1198
@baka1198 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Corbin The only thing I would change about this theory would be that as a child, she was already trained as a spy and exploited as a child for her intelligence, resulting in being mentally scarred for the rest of her life
@matthewcorbin
@matthewcorbin 6 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Lin Oh yes. I agree that it's possible that she was a spy before Castro took power and she may have even been raised to be one, I just believe that it was after Castro came to power that she was sent to meet with Syndrome to arrange a secret weapons deal.
@sockshandle
@sockshandle 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Corbin it does make sense however... i honestly think that she could have been a spy for the USSR and her allies at that wouldn't it make more sense for syndrome to basically mine Information from the US for the USSR and Cuba ? information at that point in time was very valuable to either side which means that syndrome could have made more money via selling information and then transfered to selling weapons to either government (as well as the US government)
@matthewcorbin
@matthewcorbin 6 жыл бұрын
fred white Interesting idea... I didn't think about that.
@jasminvalerie
@jasminvalerie 6 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Elizabeth Pena 😭🖤
@bryanv3340
@bryanv3340 5 жыл бұрын
That name is familiar? Those she live in lynwood LA
@jalenikezeue4114
@jalenikezeue4114 4 жыл бұрын
jasminvalerie oh no she past way didn't know that may she rest in peace
@nicolethyberg471
@nicolethyberg471 2 жыл бұрын
😢
@eggballo4490
@eggballo4490 2 жыл бұрын
I have an explanation for her backstory. Mirage looked to be in her late 20s or early 30s. The movie is set in 1962, this would indicate that she grew up in the 1930s and 40s, under her birth name. Being the 1930s and 40s, her dark skin, accent, and white hair would've been targets for discrimination which caused her to close herself off from the world. Syndrome was the only one who didn't judge her for how she looked and took her in. She spent a few years training to become a spy for Syndrome, with him as her mentor and lover. The jet being blown up and her near-death experience is what got her to see Syndrome for who he really is: a monster who will stop at nothing to get what he wants.
@vincentfranklin17
@vincentfranklin17 6 жыл бұрын
With the unfortunate passing of Elizabeth Pena, what will they do with Mirage in Incredibles 2?
@taylorm7777
@taylorm7777 6 жыл бұрын
Lady gaga is rumored to play her which is an AMAZING voice match. So excited!
@liizzset
@liizzset 6 жыл бұрын
This is new to me. Didn't know this. Thanks. Maybe I did but glanced over the news. Only saw her in Rush Hour. And probably some other things. Always wanted to know what happened to her.
@michaelzahnle5649
@michaelzahnle5649 6 жыл бұрын
According to IMBD, Mirage is not listed as a character in Incredibles 2.
@oldbaldfatman2766
@oldbaldfatman2766 6 жыл бұрын
April 21, 2018---Maybe there will be an Incredibles 3, but WITHOUT such a long wait between them?
@CuriousUserX90
@CuriousUserX90 6 жыл бұрын
Vincent Franklin Either Mirage will have a New VA or be excluded under Pena’s respect. Pixar have been able to recast characters before, of which we can hopefully expect of Mr. Potato Head come Toy Story 4, which was already the case with Slinky.
@kadynbabyblue6682
@kadynbabyblue6682 4 жыл бұрын
On the line of her reaction to endangering children, I don't quite think it was due to a difficult childhood. Granted having a bad childhood could lead her to being sensitive to children, it would make more sense if she had her family herself. Something like she was in a relationship with a man who used her and betrayed her trust similar to syndrome, and in turn it endangered possibly her own children and killing them. So now she was alone, abandoned by a man that didn't love her and ended up taking away her children, and now even the hance of a child being hurt is a sensitive spot for her. And it explains why she would be so cross with Syndrome when he betrayed her other than the fact that he was willing to let her die. At least that's my take on that part, I pretty much agree with the other points as well
@justinwilliams7324
@justinwilliams7324 2 жыл бұрын
Syndrome never betrayed her he knew mr.incredible wouldn't kill her he knows mr.incredible the best out of all the heroes which is why he didn't go at him first he knew his machines would not be enough.
@thewittygeek6770
@thewittygeek6770 6 жыл бұрын
OMG I'm so excited for Incredibles 2! :) great theory Issac
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Happy you enjoyed it!
@lilliansanders4831
@lilliansanders4831 6 жыл бұрын
Wotso Videos you just earned a new sub keep it up
@nymanona7637
@nymanona7637 6 жыл бұрын
"Mirage longs to protect childhoods." The Man in the Moon's next pick for a Guardian...?
@wendyy8763
@wendyy8763 6 жыл бұрын
I like her, she’s so cool, kind of reminds me of Ratatouille
@alexoxo1
@alexoxo1 6 жыл бұрын
Wendyy Reminds you of a rat?
@mrheroprimes
@mrheroprimes 6 жыл бұрын
you know I think the real reason DevTech asked Helen to be the face of the returning supers is due to the fact that she does not have the baggage of the sue the supers lawsuits and that's the main reason they asked her over her husband. think about it mr. incredible single-handedly caused the sue the supers lawsuits, by trying to prevent Oliver Sansweet suicide attempt, this resulted in Mr Incredible and his fellow supers reputations getting dragged through the mud. so I'm pretty sure devtech would want to distance themselves from the man that single-handedly caused the superheroes to be outlawed in the first place
@bethany8379
@bethany8379 6 жыл бұрын
What if Mirage was a super fan of a superhero like ElasticGirl and was turned down by her and she met Buddy and he knew how she felt so that be why she was against superheos.
@ColourCodedBands
@ColourCodedBands 6 жыл бұрын
When he said, “I think that’s because Mirage has always been a spy.” I thought, “Oh, kinda like Black Widow from the MCU.” And then he went on to say “Now that we know that Mirage is actually a well-trained spy, capable of being recruited by the NSA, I believe her backstory becomes more clear, especially when taking inspiration from the story of Marvel’s Black Widow.” Now I’m convinced I have some sort of psychic powers...
@artisticalex1206
@artisticalex1206 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Mirage as a kid. Yes she was on a villain's side but I think she was manipulated by Syndrome to be involved in all the messed up things he did and there was something else about her I liked but couldn't figure out what it was. At least she helped out Bob's family in the end. While I loved Incredibles 2, I wish they would have involved her somehow in the sequel, like maybe mentioning her a few times or something because her actress Elizabeth Pena sadly died from cirrhosis of the liver due to being a heavy alcoholic. RIP Elizabeth Pena.
@victormunhozzz
@victormunhozzz 6 жыл бұрын
She is an illusionist. She creates Mirages to trick her interlocutors 5:37 she did it right there
@connorplisga3718
@connorplisga3718 6 жыл бұрын
Is Grandmother Willow the spirit of Pocahontas’ Grandmother in the form of a tree?
@devilovesdevil
@devilovesdevil 6 жыл бұрын
Connor Plisga if thats the case are there more grandmother willows or just that one
@cartoonmaster2401
@cartoonmaster2401 6 жыл бұрын
Wut? XD
@rachel183321
@rachel183321 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be mirage she was calm, cool , and collected qualities I strive for everyday
@racheldeal8322
@racheldeal8322 6 жыл бұрын
YES. so glad you did this video!
@alyssajohnston7805
@alyssajohnston7805 6 жыл бұрын
Great video on Mirage, although I suspect that the real reason for her unwillingness to harm children may come from experience with other children in her life, like young siblings or maybe even a child of her own. This seems more likely to me because it's actually a bit harder for self-sympathy to translate into sympathy for others, especially strangers, whereas if she already valued the lives of children due to knowing and loving them in her personal life, that would provide better explanation for her strong reaction to "children on board." Especially from a parental or caretaker point of view, she could immediately empathize with Mr. Incredible's panic as his kids' lives are in danger.
@jenniferhalliwell416
@jenniferhalliwell416 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted them to bring her back. She was my favorite character
@EngineerRiff
@EngineerRiff 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if Mirage is truly evil, or just following orders
@TheMediaRaptor
@TheMediaRaptor 6 жыл бұрын
So. Who wants to hear a really dark and twisted theory? No one? Okay, here it is. What if Mirage thought Syndrome WAS a good guy? For a time, she would bring supers to the island, then when she saw that he killed them, decided she needed to control him. Using the disguise of "love" she (like you said) manipulated him, twisting him to her ideals, eventually genuinely falling for him, but not before dozens of supers were dead. Perhaps she or someone close to her was taken by one in an accident, or perhaps she was a super villain. Either way, she's just as evil as Syndrome. And her "redemption" at the end? All an act, perhaps even one planned WITH Syndrome. But they didn't plan for his death, after that, perhaps she slipped into the shadows, awaiting a new villain, a new puppet, to replace Syndrome. Think about it. I know I did. -Raptor
@warmac88
@warmac88 6 жыл бұрын
The Media Raptor Great theory
@Cherrymilktea2003
@Cherrymilktea2003 6 жыл бұрын
I love Mirage so much!
@kiaralouise6980
@kiaralouise6980 6 жыл бұрын
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious-ly EARLY!!!!! 😋
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming out so soon!! Thanks for watching!
@kiaralouise6980
@kiaralouise6980 6 жыл бұрын
Wotso Videos aww you're welcome!
@oscardepaz6805
@oscardepaz6805 6 жыл бұрын
Mary poppins joke.
@suzananoel804
@suzananoel804 6 жыл бұрын
You like the word supervalifragalisticexpisldocious too? It's my favourite word!
@rolyngeorges7315
@rolyngeorges7315 6 жыл бұрын
Mirage is definitely so awesome. She's da best in my opinion.
@donnaquixote7538
@donnaquixote7538 5 жыл бұрын
2:19 The way Bob cries "no!" here is so heart-breaking. :(
@j.jonezz703
@j.jonezz703 6 жыл бұрын
Edna and Mirage my favorite characters from the movie, sadly we wont see her in the incredibles 2
@jlynncollins9802
@jlynncollins9802 6 жыл бұрын
Just because you think killing kids is wrong, doesn't mean you had a terrible childhood, have a child, or lost a child. It means you feel killing kids is wrong. Even bad guys have lines they won't cross.
@jadaleitch2561
@jadaleitch2561 6 жыл бұрын
Hiiii. Love Incredibles. Who besides me is waiting on Incredibles 2😀😀😀😊😊😊😊
@the_holographic_charazard3971
@the_holographic_charazard3971 6 жыл бұрын
Jada Cecilia me
@emilysmith7295
@emilysmith7295 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait, going to see it on my birthday! :D
@crow_boi3387
@crow_boi3387 6 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE!!!!!
@warpedtour08
@warpedtour08 6 жыл бұрын
meeeeeeeeeeee
@lilia3964
@lilia3964 6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@harmonyv9365
@harmonyv9365 6 жыл бұрын
Do a theory of kida from atlantis lost empire
@mrpeppermintpatty7930
@mrpeppermintpatty7930 6 жыл бұрын
Mirage the original Targaryen.
@matyasvarga4402
@matyasvarga4402 6 жыл бұрын
i miss Mirage so much and mainly her voice, a so deeply sad story. i don't forget she and her character.
@shoresean1237
@shoresean1237 6 жыл бұрын
Could Mirage have given Bob's boss a heads-up on his aid to the customers?
@laurenpackwood5049
@laurenpackwood5049 6 жыл бұрын
That Mission Impossible theme😂😂😂😂 this is the content I subscribed for. You made my day, Isaac. Thanks a million, fun person.
@Mathee
@Mathee 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think Mirage's unwillingness to kill children has anything to do with her past. I just think it's like the one line she won't cross. There are villains out there with morals, and not harming children or the defenseless is a common one
@robbieking4070
@robbieking4070 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know there were Incredibles comics! This is gonna be some great material for my Incredibles My Hero Academia crossover.
@polishalastor142
@polishalastor142 2 жыл бұрын
Cool idea
@keiraminetti1490
@keiraminetti1490 6 жыл бұрын
Mirage,Violet,and Edna are my favorite Incredibles characters
@BeetleBuggy01
@BeetleBuggy01 4 жыл бұрын
I always assumed the "there are children aboard" shocked mirage was bc she kinda realizes while adults are free to do what they want and understand the dangers most kids wouldnt understand the danger of going against villains, and that fact is shown true when violet and dash dont understand the danger fully for a little bit on the island they didnt know the danger they were in. Imo for her killing a adult who understands is fine but kids being ignorant to danger is another
@calebmedley6906
@calebmedley6906 6 жыл бұрын
The Screen Villain In Incredibles 2!
@nataliehernandez9440
@nataliehernandez9440 5 жыл бұрын
the only reason I came here was bc my crush said I look like mirage😂 and I have no idea what he meant by that, either he said I was super skinny (which by the way I'm not) or something else. anyway I'm happy I stumbled on this channel
@tylerderry9464
@tylerderry9464 6 жыл бұрын
I think the reason she was startled by Syndrome's decision to fire the missiles is that there is a BIG difference between killing exceptionally well armed adults and killing presumably unarmed children.
@bree1719
@bree1719 6 жыл бұрын
Dear isaac, i love your videos and you are so smart with all the disney/pixar therioes!!! You are a wonderful personne and keep up the great work!!!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Brianna! Really appreciate the support!
@bree1719
@bree1719 6 жыл бұрын
Wotso Videos no problem and it's absolutely true
@noahmizen7001
@noahmizen7001 6 жыл бұрын
Wotso Videos new episode why is it possible all of the supers from operation kronos that the omnidroids killed even gizerbeam faked their deaths
@danaiahbacon9059
@danaiahbacon9059 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Isaac Carlson nice video
@user-ul4lf3zh8z
@user-ul4lf3zh8z 2 жыл бұрын
What ethnicity was Mirage supposed to be? She looked European/South East Asian mix/Mestiza Latina. I initially thought her accent was French but turns out her voice actress Elizabeth Peña was Cuban American…
@NurseD98
@NurseD98 5 жыл бұрын
I need to know who Cobra Bubbles is!!
@marcylynn3703
@marcylynn3703 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to know your thoughts on that theory that claims Sindrome could be a technopath and not be aware of it
@OliviANDixie
@OliviANDixie 3 жыл бұрын
So her name, "Mirage", is a nod to her ability to use a mix of factual info and deceit to create whatever believable scenario necessary to manipulate her target.
@jayvonnoelsmith8445
@jayvonnoelsmith8445 Жыл бұрын
Mirage was so good 👍
@sharonstanley7487
@sharonstanley7487 6 жыл бұрын
Issac your videos go so deep I love them
@eli4431
@eli4431 6 жыл бұрын
Descendants video please
@GabrielTobing
@GabrielTobing 5 жыл бұрын
2:23 I guess she wanted children but never got children and because of that will try to protect them.
@commanderwaddles3483
@commanderwaddles3483 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope she makes a come back in the second movie though I highly doubt it as I don't see where in the presented story she would fit ;-;
@satmtca
@satmtca 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t see her as a villain regardless of her loving syndrome or even her mysterious past. Sure she lured supers to the island they died trying to take down the robot and she didn’t have any attachment or feelings to the supers until the plane scene where the kids would of been killed as well and Mr. Incredible threatening to crush her and syndrome challenging him which is something she thought he would never do that really opened her eyes not only to how evil Sybdrome was but also how what she had been doing all these years was wrong and she had had enough
@cartmanfrost1140
@cartmanfrost1140 6 жыл бұрын
I love how deep you get with Disney stuff.
@AnaxErik4ever
@AnaxErik4ever 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Mirage again in the second film, and get some in film confirmation to speculated comic book and theoretical origins. Heck, considering the guy who is recruiting supers to get back into the spotlight, I wouldn't be surprised if she is working for him as the NSA's operative on the inside.
@Jessandjamie279
@Jessandjamie279 6 жыл бұрын
"Fly home buddy, I work alone." -Mr Incredible
@alysonk5853
@alysonk5853 10 ай бұрын
Kronos is mentioned in this movie several times. It’s the name given to Syndrome’s eventual plan of releasing the Omnidroid into the city for him to destroy. It could also be seen as a persona Syndrome gave himself. in Greek mythology, Kronos is a Titan and the father of the Olympian gods, whom he swallows to maintain his power over them. Similarly, Syndrome’s plan involves killing supers (who can be seen as the gods of olympus) in order to become a powerful super himself. But the myth continues: Kronos is eventually tricked by his wife, Rhea, and Zeus into swallowing a stone, causing him to regurgitate the gods who team up and defeat him. This part of the story seems to be reflected in the final scenes of this movie, when the Incredibles escape with the help of Mirage and defeat the omnidroid and, ultimately, Syndrome. So then, if Syndrome is Kronos, and the Olympian gods are the supers, then Mirage can be seen as Rhea.
@isaiahadams1208
@isaiahadams1208 6 жыл бұрын
Do a backstory on Kerchak from Tarzan
@ReidGarwin
@ReidGarwin 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. She is one of my favorite characters. She is the epitome of "slick"
@tarnishedknight730
@tarnishedknight730 5 жыл бұрын
Do keep in mind that Mirage (Elizabeth Penya, may she rest in peace) had one of the most seductive voices ever heard. And I'm not talking in a sexual sense. Her voice had qualities to that could get almost anyone to agree with her. Her voice could calm anyone. Her voice impacted women almost as much as it did men. So, as you listen to Mirage, you find yourself willing to go along with her plans. You find yourself almost hoping 5hat she will get away with her plans. You find yourself happy when Mirage turns to the good side when she helps. I don't know if Pixar counted on this from Elizabeth's voice, or if it was just a lucky break. But there can be no doubt that it is the voice that is a big part of Mirage's power. Because of that voice, everyone (except Helen) is rooting for Mirage in some way.
@hommegirl
@hommegirl 6 жыл бұрын
Okay this was so well done! I love Mirage so much and your theory reminds me of a fanfiction that said Mirage had a though childhood. She grew up very poor with her mother but someday when she was around 10 someone from a modeling agency spotted both of them and proposed to make them become models. She became then very successful. Unfortunately the fic hasn’t been continued but it goes well with your theory :)
@Moot731
@Moot731 5 жыл бұрын
makes sense. especially being a spy. it's also true because why did she kill all other super hero's? but when it came to mr. incredible who had a family she felt bad for the kids. therefore she had no childhood cause of her training
@gasxavier6198
@gasxavier6198 9 ай бұрын
If you think about it every single possibility the movie could have ended, she wins
@derrabbit7289
@derrabbit7289 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing but love for mirage
@Whatsdogpee
@Whatsdogpee 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the reaction to kids is just a maternal thing. Maybe she had kids of her own but had to disown them to keep them safe? Who knows.
@amandapanda7138
@amandapanda7138 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Mirage work for or with Edna. I think that'd be interesting.
@gabethedinosaur95
@gabethedinosaur95 2 жыл бұрын
Mirage was such a great character in incredibles . She really made me feel good and proud that she wanted to help the superhero family fight syndrome
@lanadelrey6613
@lanadelrey6613 6 жыл бұрын
Hope she returns for the sequel hope she comes back even for just a cameo
@misseli1
@misseli1 6 жыл бұрын
Well done theory! You put to this together very well
@gerardorodriguez7500
@gerardorodriguez7500 4 жыл бұрын
I hope she returns in Incredibles 3
@tbuckanator17
@tbuckanator17 6 жыл бұрын
Makes total sense
@emilyblenn
@emilyblenn 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how the racing cup works in wreck it Ralph ? It seems simple, but they appear to put there metals in from best to worse. If they got a few metals to start with than there wouldn’t be so many people racing. So how do people like Candlehead race every time, and why would it matter if you won if you got a new metal every time? King candy did say that you need to win a race to be in one so.... Also, how do you think it works now that Vanellopee is president?
@bethany8379
@bethany8379 6 жыл бұрын
Hey can you PLEASE do a Disney prince week or a villian week. Or do a another princess week for the the next seven princess. Or full stories of Auradon Kids like Jane and Ben.
@shortbean0
@shortbean0 6 жыл бұрын
I'M EARLY. love your vids so much!!!!!!
@sarikagabhawala3341
@sarikagabhawala3341 6 жыл бұрын
Yessssss been requesting this
@robbiebloom7669
@robbiebloom7669 Жыл бұрын
Her being an agent I already knew that from the discontinued Disney Infinity game sets!
@jesuschild07able
@jesuschild07able 6 жыл бұрын
I love that he brought up Chuck. My favorite show.
@graciesimon5533
@graciesimon5533 6 жыл бұрын
I love this movie because it is one of my favorites of my life
@vintage1520
@vintage1520 4 жыл бұрын
i always loved Mirage.
@justinukah8230
@justinukah8230 4 жыл бұрын
She needs comeback in the third Incredibles movie
@TheLinainverse5
@TheLinainverse5 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video and I am glad that I voted on this as I've always wondered about mirage's origins. You did a good job on this video. Keep up the good work
@jeroenweggen896
@jeroenweggen896 Жыл бұрын
I like mirage, she is so beautiful and one of my favourite characters. I want that she comes back in incredibles 3 and this time as a hero character and she becomes a good and loveable family friend of the superhero family
@MustaAlanko
@MustaAlanko 11 ай бұрын
I agree about Mirage and even though I only watched the Incredibles movie for the first time a week ago, she has still become my favorite character in the entire movie and (despite the departure of her voice actress Elizabeth Peña I hope the same, in terms of her return) I even said that in my own comment 9 days ago
@liljakejake2503
@liljakejake2503 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! I’m actually watching Ratatouille right now and I think it would be awesome if you did a video on the backstory of Gusteau and how Linguini and Renata, his mother, fits in to it! You’d be fantastic for this! Thanks so much! Love your videos and your channel! 😊😁
@hamiltongirllover1233
@hamiltongirllover1233 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos , all of the facts and some mythology is just amazing and combined with Disney is just the best ! Thank you , please keep making theses videos !!👍
@jessicaball7426
@jessicaball7426 6 жыл бұрын
I believe Mirage was trained to be a secret spy agent, Isaac. That is a very mysterious back story about her.
@scifiwriter1006
@scifiwriter1006 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with your theory. Thank you for all of your research. Thumbs up.
@satmtca
@satmtca 6 жыл бұрын
even criminals never pass that line of killing kids and I personally never saw her as a villain
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