Miscellaneous Myths: Orion

[@OverlySarcasticProductions]

whoops, uh - YES, way back in my Endymion video I DID say that Artemis loved Orion, but in my defense, I was a much less diligent researcher back then, and that little nugget of "common knowledge" was EVERYWHERE I LOOKED. I had to do some serious digging this time to find where it came from and how unsupported it really was. I wasn't kidding - that interpretation was so appealingly tropey that it eclipsed the MUCH larger body of work that completely contradicted it, and even completely unrelated articles and descriptions will mention "btw Artemis and Orion were totally smoochin" like it's a Thing. Mythology is fun like that! 😅 -R

[@kortmann9]

Mythology really do be like that sometimes. ...basically all the time actually

[@reckon-it1375]

Mythology: So confusing that it will confuse you as to what the word "confusion" even means

[@russergee49]

Overly Sarcastic Productions Yep, admittedly it was he only story I ever encountered either. And I consider myself well versed! Well, there goes my ‘Artemis is demiromantic’ headcanon LOL

[@toadfrog8057]

@@russergee49 same lol

[@FellsApprentice]

I mean, they definitely weren't smooching, but whether there was romantic emotions on the table at all, or if it was one sided, or whatever is up for debate. The work saying there was is still part of the body of work. And as you pointed out, debating the canon of theology is ultimately a work of absurdity unless the behavior is so wildly out of character it has to be explained another way.

[@melskunk]

Me seeing the title: Well, I know he's a constellation? Red: The most important thing is...he's a constellation Me: I'm a mythological GENIUS

[@arronstiles6160]

*Well your not wrong*

[@danielcharland1374]

Yeah, he's the only constellation I can quickly identify at night. I have trouble finding the Big Dipper for some reason, but I can always spot good old Orion.

[@kotori87gaming89]

My thoughts exactly!

[@Healermain15]

A literal galaxy-brain!

[@Hazyla]

Daniel Charland at least you can find constellations I can’t.

[@jamespocelinko104]

Orion: Was blinded, then got his eyesight restored by staring at the sun Me: Could've sworn it's usually the opposite

[@perihelionstudios7563]

It worked for Dante

[@MasteringJohn]

Maybe Helios can mimic LASIK.

[@fomalhaut_the_great]

Nah, you must have bad sources OP. Go and try, you'll see. Pun intended.

[@Omnywrench]

Must be one of those homeopathic thingies

[@lpswerido688]

Wanted to make a Dante joke but someone already took it 😢

[@artemiswolf4508]

Male poets and painters: Orion is the only man Artemis ever loved. Artemis: No, but I understand the confusion here, see Orion was the only man I ever *liked*

[@Punaparta]

Wait, what of Hippolytus?

[@yozen1995]

Platonic love if you would.

[@AegixDrakan]

Considering that us Ace dudes seem to be as rare as hen's teeth (Especially if they ALSO have to be skilled enough hunters to earn Artemis' respect), that number of precisely 2 male hunters that Artemis was cool with seems to line up pretty well.

[@notinorder9630]

Artemis: if I had a nickel for every time... Also Artemis: I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's still weird that it happened twice.

[@guilhermemarinho9861]

Sad Apollo noises

[@vivilikesfr1es]

long ago, artemis and orion were living happily and in balance. *_but everything changed when the shippers attacked_*

[@adeleaslan8182]

Only canon, the master of all stories, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished

[@vivilikesfr1es]

@@adeleaslan8182 THE ATLA BAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@adeleaslan8182]

@@vivilikesfr1es lol YES

[@projektgeronimo2696]

bruh

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa7638]

A couple thousand years past and the new generations made decided that Artemis and Orion being together was gross, so they took matters into their own hands.

[@mrmcawesome9746]

My personal favorite part of Orion's myths is the fact that he can literally walk on water, yet his most famous death is entirely predicated on him being neck-deep in the ocean. The guy is so unlucky he decides to go for a swim *ONCE* and immediately gets shot.

[@yizao9289]

HA GET RECKED ORION (jk Orion is my favorite Greek deity)

[@whafflete6721]

Jesus Christ

[@captainahab5522]

He could have been waking on the water and was just over the horizon so only his head was showing

[@timothymclean]

@@captainahab5522 I guess, but I like the idea that Artemis didn't recognize Orion because he decided to swim today.

[@captainahab5522]

@@timothymclean I worked it out roughly Artemis can shoot over 20km accurately

[@maxi_the_tabaxi2264]

So basically, Artemis and Orion were just vibing and then the shippers came along.

[@thesimplifestyle2022]

NONONO, don't drag us into this. We ship the ship; we don't ship the bros. That's all on the boomers who think a guy and a gal can't be friends.

[@myriadofcolours9861]

Nah, just historians who were like "Two people of the opposite sex? Ah, they must've been fisting one another"

[@hangeloarias7580]

Orion is just a teddy bear Artemis keeps around.

[@chrishansen1842]

Yep. It's always the shippers

[@papertroll1876]

‘Looks like the shippers are at it again’

[@zenebean]

Zeus: this is such a tragedy, but I shall immortalize these beings in the night sky, to be safe and free of fear Also Zeus: hey, you know what would be funny...

[@carlosroo5460]

To have Seiya burn his cosmos to ruin your perfect teeth? Yeah that would be funny

[@Mmmmmmmmmmmac]

haha scorpion go brrrr

[@SensaiRyu]

Like Red said Zeus is an asshole

[@brnchiggins]

@@SensaiRyu I'm going to write my own translation/compilation of Greek myths someday and "So Zeus was an asshole and..." will be the opening for every story in it.

[@alyssaburda2090]

Scorpio: Putting Orion up in the stars- Hades: Doing your job?

[@the-starlit-blade]

Artemis: I love no man. Artemis: But that one... (Orion) Artemis: I enjoy his company.

[@waves4699]

They had us in the first half not gonna lie

[@morganrobinson8042]

Well, that's just adorable.

[@Gooberwares]

Yeah they were jusr friends yo

[@madmouse1016]

Imagine losing your best bro- 😔

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

I ship it

[@beccag2758]

Orion, otherwise known as one of the only constellations that actually looks like what it’s supposed to be

[@sketchingchan]

lmao

[@frodoswaggins3132]

XD SO TRUE

[@greenergrass4060]

But with no head

[@kazoolekazoo872]

I thought of cassiopeia after I read this.

[@iwannaseehowlongyoucanmakethis]

Becca G another one would be Draco, a serpetine dragon.

[@Gooberwares]

I just like to think Artemis and Orion were just hunting buddies and everyone kept assuming shit

[@21eienni]

Yeah, it even sounds realistic. I'll go with that too.

[@disguisedzoroark]

It's like the opposite of every lesbian in history. Historian: Yeah, Sapphos poems were 100% straight guys, they were just good buds- wait... is that a man... and a woman? Now this is relationship goals

[@Gooberwares]

DisguisedZoroark like they do little competitions Artemis: bet you can’t hunt that thing! Orion: like hell I can’t

[@Gooberwares]

Thomas Varblow she coulda just killed him herself

[@ForeverinmyownWorld1]

@@21eienni Artemis would only confirm they were "dating" to either, 1. Bail out Orion if he really fucked up, 2. If arrows weren't enough of a deterrent to get a guy to leave her alone, 3. So Apollo wouldn't look too closely at that ass This is like the Lesbian with her football Jock best friend

[@JohnRSoviet]

I feel like the phrase "because Zeus is an asshole" is the impetus behind roughly 90% of Greek mythology.

[@atriumgamesmore4336]

50% at the most. Gaia and the titans had the monopoly first

[@belafeldbusch3397]

More like „so Zeus wanted to bang that woman...“

[@Jake007123]

@@atriumgamesmore4336 To be fair, if you look at their ancestors, they are as much moral as they could ever be.

[@dumbidiot5584]

what about, “Unfortunately, Zeus was feeling horny.”

[@atriumgamesmore4336]

@@dumbidiot5584 That phrase applies tow half the male side of the pantheon. Apollo, Poseidon, Kronos all being arguably as bad. At least most of the time when Zeus gets randy, we get a hero or a god. Poseidon just makes monsters 9 times out of 10

[@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei]

I have my suspicions that Zeus turned the Peliades, Orion, and the Scorpion who killed him into stars for the sole purpose of setting up an internal Scooby-Doo chase across the sky

[@Gondorian04]

i now have the mental image of Zeus humming the Scooby Doo theme while plotting this exact set up lol.

[@clementgoh9270]

ngl Zeus has got my support if that was the reason

[@lollivee6770]

@Balance of The hill What about when he helped Psyche?

[@lollivee6770]

@Balance of The hill yeah he gave her a hawk to help her out, the only time he saw a mortal and didn’t want to fuck her im pretty’s sure

[@lollivee6770]

@Balance of The hill True, either that Or Eros’s absence also got rid of his hornyness for a bit

[@acrownamedblue6390]

In the version I read, he and Artemis weren’t in a relationship or anything. He was the singular male allowed in her pack, cause he was respectful of her and her followers. That was my favorite myth, you know, until he boasted he could kill everything and Gaia did a SMITE

[@emperordaniel9595]

There was also Theseus's kid Hippolytus, who was one of Artemis's hunters until Aphrodite got mad at him for doing that whole "staying single and refusing to mingle" thing and kicked off a chain of events that ended with Hippolytus's death.

[@acrownamedblue6390]

Emperor Daniel I forgot about that one. Thanks for reminding me :)

[@lukeandi737]

Staring at The Sun healed Orion's Eyes Dante's eyes were healed by a blast of God's holy light Who knew lazer eye surgery was existent back then

[@immanuelrhayner3150]

Heck there was even a guy who was blind and became able to see after getting hit by a lightning (i think) or cuz he was so close to the lightning he was able to see again

[@nope2942]

"the sun is a deadly lazer"

[@rivalthoughts2061]

@Gideon Valdo Takidjo *Not anymore there’s a blanket*

[@wilburn5881]

"The healing properties of staring directly at me are very well documented"

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

666 likes XD

[@willphoenix5464]

Orion: I fear no man Orion: But that... thing Scorpion: *claps pincers* Orion: It scares me

[@andressotil4671]

Scorpion: pinch pinch bitch boi

[@merrittanimation7721]

*Scorpio does crab dance with Cancer in the background*

[@immanuelrhayner3150]

Scorpion:im bout to ruin this man's whole career

[@AxxLAfriku]

KAKAKAKAKAKAK this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. KAKAKAKAKAKA! But I am happy agayn because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I use them to get views on my videos! KAKAKAKAK!!! Good day, dear will

[@ericcadwell5193]

We Scorpios have an astrological sign! I've met Leos, and Libras, and Pieces...s...'s...s' (can anyone help with that? I can't figure out the obscure third-person non-possessive plural to "Pieces".). But I've never met an "Orion"! One the one hand, I feel victorious, being a Scorpio! On the other hand... it would... actually be kind of cool to meet an Orion.

So Orion and Artemis were friends but everybody kept shipping them really hard... man, mythology do work like fandoms sometimes!

[@NHDOreBros]

A Pantheon is only what you make of it, making it the only time where your stupid ship can actually be canon if enough people believe it.

[@Scarshadow666]

In many ways, mythology and folklore are the OGs of fandoms (in a technical sense). It's things humans have been doing even before civilization was established. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@jsc1jake512]

@@NHDOreBros I like mythology in that way, it doesn't set a straight canon, you can believe what you want to believe about the mythology because it's about interpretation. If you believe Orion and Artemis were lovers then go ahead, no one is gonna tell you you're wrong because that would put them in a confusing position between being both right and wrong at the same time, since the other versions of the myth are equally canon to the mythology.

[@animalia5554]

@@Scarshadow666 Does that mean Zeus was that one character who got shipped with EVERYONE?

[@Boss_Isaac]

@@animalia5554 Funnily enough, _yes._ Zeus's numerous infidelities resulted from him being identified with local deities in mainland Greece who had their own consorts.

[@ominouscandle4169]

Orion: *Dies* Zeus: omg this is so sad Alexa play counting stars

[@adeade3978]

Zeus: "I gotchu bro" *turns him into stars so he can keep being a creep*

[@joepaul2646]

cool

[@plantsvs.zombies9814]

Lmao

[@JoshSweetvale]

Zeus is the biggest dudebro.

[@latoyagrant2118]

Bank. Cc

[@amyhourigan4917]

Orion: Im gonna kill every animal!! Gaia:*sips tea* interesting

[@caretakercat7176]

Artemis to Atlante : (*points at orion) see that guy.. That's how you shouldn't hunt..

[@Vespuchian]

I always heard it told as "I shall hunt an example of every animal!" like some kind of taxidermied taxonomy doomed to failure because there's just _so many_ different animals out there.

[@argenteus8314]

@@Vespuchian Why would Gaia have a problem with it if that's the case though?

[@beccag2758]

Argenteus well Gaia isn’t usually described as super stable

[@FellsApprentice]

I always read it as a "I'm going to impress you" by Orion to Artemis

[@nitrocharge2404]

OSP: Orion is a very interesting character Literally everyone else: heh heh sky man go sparkle

[@5Chaor]

Sparkle Sparkle

[@thebestcentaur]

😂😂😂

[@jayrodrigues8244]

✨✨✨

[@Gekiko7167]

Astrophotographers: Hehe cool orion nebulas go brrrr

[@Alusnovalotus]

That’s what the ancestors said. Gotta be legit.

[@wd3185]

Historians on Orion and Artemis: Yeah, definitely a couple, no question. Historians on Achilles and Patroclus: Yeah, definitely best friends, no question, no romance there whatsoever.

[@mirzapramudya1580]

"Fuck the gays" - historians

[@moon7shinev150]

@@arcahmwinters70 to be fair a lot of queer people in history have had straight relationships. Look at Frederick the Great

[@valwtquickspeed]

that one ship the fandom frown on and hate the people that like it i wonder were i heard that before

[@ClawedReaperII]

Orion to Scorpio: What are you gonna do, stab me? *some time later* Hermes: In local news, giant man stab 27 times by single scorpion. More at 11

[@defensivekobra3873]

27 stabs but stab is written in singular? how many stab?

[@Raiju2]

@@defensivekobra3873 Like, scorpion only stabbed once, but its tail was so long it went around 27 times,each time making another hole in Orion, correlating with each star in Orion constellation. Because Scorpio existed only to fuck this dude up and it would serve that purpose with distinction. Maybe. Probably not.

[@m0ckyzo185]

27 STAB WOUNDS

[@WrestlerBeowulf]

Nuh uh it was, 28 STAB WOUNDS. YOU DIDN'T WANNA GIVE HIM A CHANCE HUH!?

[@doorsca]

Reds voice is so cool She can talk at the speed of light but you still understand

[@scouttyra]

Agreed!

[@PropagandaDS]

She could be an excellent rapper.

[@clicky4665]

And her singing is prrerrfect

[@martinconway8174]

Yahtzee hears a challenger approaching

[@loremipsumdolor1288]

until the philosophy song

[@thelegend8570]

To be fair, knowing how to heal people's eyes is probably a useful skill to the guy who literally just straight up _is_ the sun.

[@PutoMedicoBrujo]

and red was wrong maybe THIS is the first refference to laser eye surgery and not the divine comedy but again WE'LL NEVER KNOOOOW! XD

[@archdruidbookwalter951]

"Hey, over here!" "Haha, now you're blind!"

[@PutoMedicoBrujo]

@@archdruidbookwalter951 _asdf intenifies_

[@Michal-by2nt]

@@archdruidbookwalter951 *it's the opposite day*

[@d.n5287]

Well too bad He didn't have the ability to cure skin cancer

[@punprincess3214]

Only way to perceive Artemis x Orion: "Love you bro" "Bro same, I killed a deer for you bro." "Aw thanks bro! I'll kill a bull for you bro!" Platonic and sweet, Bromance!

[@gienavegas9417]

100th like AND YES!

[@themancantfindaname7589]

sound like a indian man would say bro

[@gilgamesh7652]

Bromance and seeing each other as siblings in Greek mythology, well I thought people learned enough myths to understand this.

[@samuellawrencesbookclub8250]

@@gilgamesh7652 Maybe that's what got Apollo so mad; he was jealous of Orion for taking his place as Artemis' brother

[@gilgamesh7652]

@@samuellawrencesbookclub8250 Well Apollo is kind of a creepy guy so I don't know what to say about his jealousy. But remember that we are talking about Greek Mythology so "just friends" is way too unrealistic. In other variants, Zeus was worried because divine chicks were having catfights because of Orion.

[@TheOverArchiver]

“Trespassers will be shot or turned into a deer and eaten by their own dogs.” That’s a reference.

[@errorcode1249]

Julian Zimianitis to what I need to know

[@magiv4205]

@@errorcode1249 It's a reference to yet another Orion story. In that one, he followed Artemis to the pool she bathed in and lewded her, she noticed and was so furious that she turned him into a deer that was immediately torn apart by his own hunting dogs. Orion and his dogs were then both put on the sky by Zeus.

[@ChrisX_212]

@@magiv4205 Minus the Zeus part... well that didn't happen to Orion. That happened to Actaeon.

[@AmimikaMoon]

@@errorcode1249 some guy called Actaeon (according to wikipedia) transgressed against Artemis in some way, so she turned him into a deer and he got ripped apart by his own hunting dogs (in some versions, it's Artemis's dogs who kill him). There's another myth where a boy called Siproites walks in on Artemis bathing, and since she can't allow men to have seen her naked, she turns him into a girl.

[@BlazeBurnBlade]

ERRORcode 12 hell, aside from the other replies, Red did a video on the whole myth.

[@bublex5270]

I like the idea that Orion and Artemis are best bro’s. An Ace goddess and her himbo hunter

[@TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth]

That was basically the whole point to the myth, but you know how hardcore the poets and historians can get.

[@esper6119]

HIMBRO HIMBO,

[@dracogatom7873]

Off topic I was trying to remember what ace meant and the first thing that popped in my head was "Anti-sexual". Didn't sound right but isn't completely off the definition of asexual (i think)

[@TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth]

Draco Gatom no you are completely correct

[@CJCroen1393]

Same! Especially since, from the sound of it, Orion _didn't_ try to sex up Artemis in the version where they're friends.

[@NekogamiKun127]

*Apollo:* I thought you said you loved Orion! *Artemis:* Yeah, as a bro! *Apollo:* _I'M YOU'RE BRO_

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

As a best friend ni san!

[@simonschnedl]

Artemis: "Your" Apollo: **looses shit* *kills Orion**

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

Man.. Artemis hangs and shoots bows with one guy and everyone even apollo assumes shit

[@crocuslament9680]

@@reginaldmustardbacon5866 To be fair Apollo is really bad at picking up on people not being romantically interested.

[@Silverwind87]

Apollo: Oh shut up, you love me! Artemis: I'd sell you to Hades for one corn chip.

[@blockhead134]

I actually like the idea of Orion being such a great hunter that the goddess of the hunt was like "DUDE, SICK SHOT" and they just become hunting bros

[@justintime3656]

Apollo:I THOUGHT I WAS YOU'RE BRO 😭

[@atmosquake3090]

So Fanfiction has a much longer history than I thought...

[@girlinahat3407]

Humans haven't changed only their toys.

[@Grim_Sister]

Look up the sages of the Talmud and Mishna. It’s basically one of the earliest known fanfics to us. The guy who wrote the myth about Medusa also was a prolific fanfic writer, I think Red already made a video about him.

[@Timelost_Techpriest]

Let me introduce you to Launcelot, totally original character do not steal

[@decoral]

Did you know that the version of the more popular backstory of Medusa is also kind of a fan fiction? It debuted in Ovid's metamorphoses, which is Roman and not Greek! In the original Greek version Medusa is born a monster and she is instead seduced by Poseidon while Athena had nothing to do with it!

[@decoral]

I keep writing the same thing about Medusa all the time😑

[@luminaryprism75]

My canon is that Orion was Artemis’ closest friend (being the only semi-divine being she had so much in common with) and the tragedy of her “lost love” being the loss of her friend.

[@Yvonne-Bella]

I can get behind that.

[@stormespyder709]

Ah best love is platonic love

[@stormespyder709]

Yvonne-Bella has

[@fool4343]

@@sebastianm.m.5375 why not

[@GaldirEonai]

Her bow-bro if you will.

[@Micolino9878]

Red: "Because I bet a lot of you have heard that Orion is the only man Artemis ever loved." Me: *Checks the Endymion Misc Myths Again* Red: "She's never shown an interest in sex and has only ever romantically loved one person, the hunter Orion." Me: "Yeah, I hate when further research invalidates my previous statements too."

[@gypsysprite4824]

also, welcoem to Mythology, where both can be techencally true due to how the myths evolve oer time

[@Jake007123]

@Autzen Hallock I think it's fair to say it wasn't true when the version that depicts Artemis loving Orion seems to be from many centuries after anyone even believed in them. Or at least that's what I take from it.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

@Autzen Hallock That's a fair point, but the whole "only man she ever loved" bit seems to be usually used to make some sexist point or invalidate her broader characterisation. It makes sense for Red to give it a harsh "no" in that case, particularly when the connection with the mythology is so tenuous. There are overarching truths, as she says, even if details vary.

[@taylor_green_9]

@Autzen Hallock Yes, there's a good reason why OSP chose Athena as the asexual goddess for their pride month video

[@Naharu.]

@Autzen Hallock l think everyone has a different take in all the greek gods. I always took Athena as just hating humanity/living things in general and only liking her group of friends and putting up with apollo because she cant choose a new brother. Thats my headcanon, at least.

[@Sektus69]

Poets: Friendship between a man and a woman is impossible. Artemis and Orion were totally in love. Also poets: You know all these obvious gay couples in myths? Yeah, for sure they were only friends/cousins.

[@aljizastrow8698]

i know right! like what about Achilles!

[@Silverwind87]

Artemis and Sappho are polar opposites in terms of being straightwashed.

[@bonesymcjay6839]

Despite most mythologies especially Greeks openly having gay relationships in their myths

[@Grim_Sister]

You forgot that one where two gods shared a page in a book, so they totally were a husband and wife

[@helltubejackie1086]

*ahem* *sapho*

[@Matthew_Murray]

I always viewed the idea of Orion being the only guy Artemis loved in terms of friendship. I like that version because I think it’s important to tell your friends you love them.

[@TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth]

That’s exactly how I view and most probably the reason why it was written for.

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

The only person she wanted to relate with.

[@CJCroen1393]

I think Artemis had other male friends, but for me, what appeals about this example is that Orion, despite being kind of a perv, evidently _didn't_ perv on Artemis and was totally content with just being her hunting bro. That being said, with your version, I can TOTALLY see Apollo's angry overprotective reaction too... Orion: Man, I love ya man! Artemis: I love ya too, bro! Apollo: OH GODS SHE'S GONNA MARRY HIM, HE MUST DIE!

[@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person]

Also, in Greek mythology ,when there's sexual relations between men and women, either consensual or not, it tends to end with a kid. Artemis had no kids AFAIK.

[@TheDaltonius]

I told friends that I’m really close to that I love them as a friend, so yeah, cool

[@kortmann9]

5:03 "--because Zeus is an a**hole." The most consistent theme in Greek mythology everybody!

[@xLoLRaven]

Preach it! Hah, most Greek stories do seem to either start or end with "And so Zeus decided to be a dick and/or stick his dick in something."

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@xLoLRaven the sticking his dick in it part is mostly because it was an easy way to tie in other cultures stories into Greek myth. The being a dick part is just him being terrible

[@Fishbiene]

Who else thinks we need a “bows before bros” t shirt

[@pxperrings]

Me!

[@ryangreen6255]

It would be perfect for diehard archers.

[@summerrr6133]

Yes we can

[@voidnerdvs7660]

Human Being Yes

[@mrclueuin]

🖐 shut up and take my money! 💰

[@teylawhite687]

I just love the dynamic of Apollo and Artemis asking each other to kill people that offended them in some way

[@deargodwhatamidoing1122]

Wauw Apollo is so bad at relationships, even him THINKING anyone has a thing for ANYONE is enough to get the unluky soul killed.

[@apollogodofthesun5630]

Hey! Just because its true doesn't mean you're right!

[@xLoLRaven]

Yeah, he's basically the anti-Aphrodite.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

@@xLoLRaven Hm, that's sort of exactly like Aphrodite. The anti-Eros, maybe?

[@CrimsonBlasphemy]

If you go out sailing, take precautions against dying of exposure to the sun. He won't sink your ship, he'll just kill you.

[@apollogodofthesun5630]

@@CrimsonBlasphemy no!

[@Silverwind87]

Eros: *sees Artemis and Orion together* No one is immune to my arrows! *shoots Artemis* Artemis: *grabs the arrow midair and turns around* Eros: 0_0 Artemis: Start flying, angel.

[@eeveestar6826]

Alternatively: Artemis: *grabs arrow in midair and turns around* Eros: 0_0 Artemis: "Cute arrows. *grabs her own bow.* "My turn."

[@cordeliajackson8615]

@@eeveestar6826 YES

[@gearsoftime9375]

Insert Jonathan joestar saying oh no

[@higonakamura1236]

@@eeveestar6826 Eros: *at this moment he knew...he f*cked up*

[@yurotoki]

@@eeveestar6826 Why would Artemis do this though..

[@PeeperSnail]

My favorite has to be that version where Orion and Artemis are just friends and the only reason he dies is because Apollo is a disaster bi with zero concept of being able to remain friends with someone without developing romantic feelings for them.

[@blankiecat9302]

I love disaster bi Apollo

[@metarcee2483]

"I was helping you, Artemis!" "NO, YOU WEREN'T!"

[@sofiavarela1290]

Male couple: are very clearly in love and would tragically die for each other Scholars: these two men just have a close brotherly friendship and are not homosexual at all Male and female: share an interest and like to discuss that and hang out Scholars: CLEARLY THESE TWO ARE TRAGICALLY IN LOVE

[@miamafalda1118]

It's ok you can say Achilles and Patroclus

[@krankarvolund7771]

When you based your interpretation on the gender of the characters rather than on their behaviours XD

[@maira7804]

Sad truth is that they were both lovers and cousins, but seeing general greek mythology, it's not that big of a deal

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

Good gravy! Surely you don't mean to insinuate that historians are shaped by contemporary cultural biases? Say it aint so, Joe!

[@fomalhaut_the_great]

​@@maira7804 Zeus is literally married to his sister, if incest wasn't cool in greek myth I'm sure the literal king of gods wouldn't be doing it on the daily.

[@valenciaparchment8212]

"As a... _constellation prize_ " I've been sorely needing this kind of humor And Red's singing... great

[@xLoLRaven]

I've said before that if Red ever releases an album I'll buy it. She has a marvelous singing voice.

[@adamfitzpatrick2366]

Do you know what song she's singing at the end?

[@mhua1132]

@@adamfitzpatrick2366 Counting Stars, I think

[@gleefulpebble]

What about the version of his backstory where he’s the child of Zeus, Poseidon, and Hermes peeing on a bearskin and then burying it under some old guy’s house? I like that version

[@funnelrust6613]

I'm sorry, WHAT?!

[@madamabis3432]

Hold up what?!

[@timothymclean]

And people say you need women to make children.

[@anikasaxena4238]

What?! You... You can't just drop that like a bombshell!

[@FionnFisher]

I . . . . . Man, what the fuck is mythology

[@pintsizedpicasso3402]

5:11 Okay, Artemis chilling with a sign saying bows before bros while Take a Hint plays in the background may just be one of the greatest things, EVER!!!!!😂🤣

[@miriamiraci6167]

Yeah and the "PartheNO means NO" shirt-like I want it

[@MSwede]

Can we make the "PartheNO means NO" Tee artemis is wearing into an actual shirt? I dig it.

[@thesimplifestyle2022]

PLEASE

[@MaeArt725]

That and bows before bro’s

[@pinkcupcake4717]

im pretty sure its on their website!

[@kkhomestuck4127]

merch merch merch merch merch merch merch

[@ingonyama70]

Oh I want this

[@rainbowlemniscate2761]

Someone: I’m such a Scorpio Orion: halfway across the world at this point, A HECCIN WHAT

[@thelegend8570]

"U wot m8?"

[@sunnyssecretnonpostingaccount]

Lmao

[@theoryofspirit249]

Cancer the Crab though they could be like senpai Scorpio and take on Hercules... didn't go so well.

[@mosskebab5354]

“So Zeus makes Orion a constellation after he dies to a monstrous scorpion... ... and then he makes the SCORPION a constellation”

[@timothymclean]

Zeus is a dick, but sometimes he's a dick to the right people.

[@joemerl1145]

After making Orion a constellation so that he can keep pursuing the Pleiades, whom he made a constellation to keep them away from Orion. He either doesn't get the point of all this or he's just a MASSIVE troll.

[@AD-dg3zz]

Zeus turns the pleiad nymphs into a bunch of stars so they can escape Orion... and then he turns ORION into a bunch of stars

[@genesischaparro8954]

Because Zeus' an asshole *party horns*

[@edisonlima4647]

Sounds just like Zeus. Lol

[@brianroberts783]

Personally, my favorite version of the Orion legend is a bit of a mixture of several of these. Basically, Orion meets Artemis and she kinda goes "Hey, you're a pretty good hunter, want to hang out?" So they start hunting together and Orion basically becomes Artemis's best friend/favorite cousin. Apollo gets jealous because "why don't you hang out with me anymore?" and throws a hissy fit, and then sics a giant scorpion on Orion.

[@dudebladeX]

Yeah, that's my favorite too. Orion's all like, "I love ya, girl!" And Artemis is all "I love you too, man!" And Appolo is all "Hey! What about me!?"

[@neros398]

wouldnt apollo just shoot him if that was the case? i feel like the gaia version make more sanse

[@brianroberts783]

@@neros398, I don't know, do you think your sister would want to hang out with you if you obviously murdered her favorite cousin? Apollo has an alibi and plausible deniability in this version.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Male hunter: *is friends with Artemis* Apollo: So you have chosen...death

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Artemis: What the fuck bro? Apollo: My last girlfriend dumped me and I need to take my rage on the next mortal thing I see.

[@Silverwind87]

Have you ever seen two siblings? It went like this: Apollo: lol you're still mad about that?

[@abluetale1016]

Dylan Chouinard just a bro being a bro

[@Sanjaykumar-zr8my]

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec *orion's death was first mentioned in Homer's odyssey where it is stated that Artemis slew orion in ortygia* *Hesiod in his book astronomy fragments (8BC - 7BC) that orion was blinded because he tried to assault a king's daughter . Orion later went to crete and spent his time hunting with artemis . Once he boasted that he'd kill all the animals gaia ( earth) sent a scorpion to kill him yet the author pseudo -apollodorus (2AD) says Artemis killed orion because he challenged or tried to assault her nymph opis thus both Apollo and Artemis killed him . so either way the earliest Version suggest that Artemis or gaia killed him not Apollo*

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@@Sanjaykumar-zr8my I am not talking about that version of the myth

[@adambielen8996]

For the "love" version of the myth I had always heard it that Artemis and Orion were just great friends and the "love" part was just in Apollo's head. Which would imply that it was more of a platonic love. And thus Apollo was just jealous that another dude was hanging out with his sister and got him killed. Wouldn't have been the craziest or pettiest thing a Greek god had ever done.

[@Urd-Vidan]

There are other version too that, when Artemis left and Apollo came to check Orion, they kind got hot and heavy(Cus Orion here is more into guys rather than girls, although he still is attracted to them), then when when they were done, Apollo just instantly denies everything and leaves, which just confuses the hell out of Orion shruggs it off. Then the normal stuff happened and Orion dies.

[@floofcloud6163]

@@Urd-Vidan So Apollo ghosts him and gets him killed?

[@Urd-Vidan]

@@floofcloud6163 Kinda? It's weird and Apollo was saving face cus he was a "Woman lover", not a Man lover, even though he had a lot of male lovers(Which he denied to having relationships as well).

[@Honeypot22-o7r]

Alissandro Andres so he basically sleeps with his Sister’s best friend, gets embarrassed about it and kills him because he doesn’t like that he’s still hanging out with his sister?

[@Urd-Vidan]

@@Honeypot22-o7r Yes. He's a pretty jealous type, a shitty ass jealous Sis-con type. Even after sleeping with the guy and actually having a nice heart to heart talk with him, he still had the gall to set up his death. Its really based on what version you see, but what ive read, Apollo's a shit head while Orion is just a plain good guy that has regretted his past mistakes and moved on.

[@thegarunixking1101]

Wait so if Poseidon had a kid with the gorgon Euryale, is that kinda like the mythological equivalent of dumping someone for their sibling?

[@merrittanimation7721]

Knowing the gods he probably did both simultaneously

[@mythandmayhem1134]

You make a fair point.

[@winterhail8340]

It can be worse, we dont know if it happened before Perseus killed medusa or after so it might be that Poseidon fucked his dead lovers sister.

[@jawaunw1]

Just depends Is this after they were turned into tragic characters or this is this when they were originally monsters And this could make sense that why Poseidon is mixed with Medusa so much

[@nidohime6233]

Yeap.

[@AddNameLater2379]

0:18 “Mythology isn’t about arguing cannon, because there’s no point” tell that to the fanfic writers and theorists out here in the internet. 😂

[@asdeespadas5405]

Apollo: *Kill Orion* Artemis: Wtf, Apollo? Apollo: You can't be the virgin goddess if you get married Artemis: You'll suffer my revenge... *A few years later* Artemis: Hey, Zephyrus. I know of a guy named Hyacintus Zephyrus: Is he hot? Artemis: For me? No. For you? Yes. But he is dating with Apollo Zephyrus: What i do now? Artemis: If you kill him, than no one can date him anymore Zephyrus: And Apollo? Artemis: He'll be fine Zephyrus: Okay then

[@fissionist2158]

*Later in that discus game...*

[@scp--297]

🤣🤣

[@Falcon_Chapter]

That's a good one.

[@lahlybird895]

Noooooo

[@darcytyrrell8702]

You didn't..... that's still a sensitive subject you know.......😭😭😭

[@Red-mg4ro]

*Five thousand misc animals chillin' in the underworld* "So...that Orion guy get you too?" "Yeah, shit's whack." "Well, at least we're safe down - why do I hear boss music?"

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

I feel like “Take a Hint” from Victorious is EXACTLY the kind of song Artemis would blast after being around dudes

[@sydnamon5986]

Except doesn't that song include the line "Why am I hit on by the *boys* I never like", which implies the narrator likes boys? Creative liberties?

[@seanhyousuke]

I think “One Woman Army” is much more better than that

[@ProfessorH]

@@sydnamon5986 I guess it could be read as her not liking 'the boys' as a whole.

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

@@sydnamon5986 i mean, technically speaking, Artemis took a vow of celibacy, so in the purest terms, theres no reason to believe she was asexual OR aromantic, just that she was a GODDESS with heavy dedication, so with that logic that idntro could still work

[@sahildahal5523]

Titanium.

[@fennelcomeaux9663]

As I read it, Artemis was so impressed by Orion's archery that she let him join her hunting party, then he started hitting on her and she got pissed off and killed him

[@TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth]

I’m pretty sure that was like a dramatic way for some random poet or Historian to say “Artemis is virginity goddess, do not get close or she’ll kill you” if I remover correctly the oldest version of the story goes that after his eyes healed, he decides to go travel around some places and ends up meeting Artemis along the way, then later after they got to know I leach other better they started a very friendly friendship(until you know what happens next and yea). I think that the original intention for that whole situation of Artemis and Orión was that platonic love exist and love can also be in between two friends getting along and bonding without the need to make it romantic or sexual.

[@merrittanimation7721]

The moral of the story is that Apollo is a disaster bi even when the relationships do not apply to him and aren't even romantic.

[@apollogodofthesun5630]

I have never been so offened at something I 100% agree with.

[@radicalraddish6292]

Disaster bi is a new one for me but im gonna use it all the time now

[@moonyistired]

I'd personally say he's a disaster pan though I guess it could get confusing with mythological deities when the god Pan is right there.

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@moonyistired Artemis: "Gods you're such a disaster pan." Pan: "Hey!" Artemis: "Not you Pan."

[@apollogodofthesun5630]

@@moonyistired no. One I identity as bi not pan 2. Pan sucks and I hate him cause he said that he was a better musician than me.

[@cocobean0390]

Orion: *Looking for the Pleiades* Scorpio: *Peeks over the horizon* _clap clap_ Orion: *Nervously hides on the opposite side of the earth*

[@ChaserNeos]

The dialogue that the twins had actually made me laugh. Because it sounded like an actual conversation those two would have.

[@emmanorrington8841]

i was so hoping that apollo would just go, snitches get stitches!

[@immortalkoopah3138]

I just kinda love the idea of Artemis being the first person who ever had made sunglasses and lawn chairs in the world and then just used them to chill out when she was done going on hunts

[@Jodipo]

Anyone else wants more videos about Hinduism? I feel like a video about Rama and Hanuman's adventures would be cool.

[@merrittanimation7721]

That sounds like a Journey to the West level series.

[@hyperfox0934]

yEESS

[@oliveramarcoangelo1133]

I’d love to hear stuff about Hanuman. I’ve see him in Aru Shah and the End of Time and I think he’s pretty interesting, being the son of Vayu and all

[@AuxCart]

Yeah, the lesser-exposed myths are always more fun. They're usually crazier, too!

[@jumpingspiderjesusfreak6219]

It would certainly explain Baljeet’s choice of superhero from that one Phineas and Ferb episode.

[@HoneydewBeach]

Orion: Glad I’m in the sky now, that scorpion can’t reach me here. Zeus: Oh yeah, about that. I brought him here too.

[@Sean-ne3gx]

That last story further reinforces my "Yeah, I'd hang out with Artemis, she seems really cool, but damn, I'm out if her brother shows up." thoughts on the twins

[@AquamarineDust]

Because your chances of an early death skyrocket. Apollo thinks you're going to marry Artemis, he'll plot your demise. Apollo falls for you, you'll probably become a plant

[@blarg2429]

@@AquamarineDust What if both?

[@rebeccadittman6350]

Yes... just, yes,

[@eclipserepeater2466]

That's a good analogy for how I hang out with the moon and hide from the sun. :V

[@CJCroen1393]

"Helios, the sun, who heals Orion's eyes" ...That sounds very contradictory.

[@paytonburrows2325]

I‘d like to see an amalgam version of these myths; Orion and Artemis being good friends with a shared love for hunting, though Orion was prone to bouts of bravado and skirt chasing, meaning Artemis often has to be the level-headed one to bring her friend back to his senses.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Tin Watchman Artimes can’t bail him out of the scorpion fight that he Leroy Jenkins his way in.

[@KomodoDojo]

Orion's pants once fell down while he was hunting. To remind him that belts exist the gods put his into the night sky

[@actualpresidentfunnyvalent7471]

I guess he experienced a lost belt

[@LILILILILIAN7125]

@@actualpresidentfunnyvalent7471 a fellow Chaldean I see?

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

I mean his belt in Fate is literally those stars, so...

[@defensivekobra3873]

how can he wear it if it was stolen and put in the stars`?

[@LadyGrayce]

"a lot of you have probably heard that Orion was the only man Artemis ever loved" Yes I have. From you. In your Endymion video. Where you said that "First of all, no" you lied to me

[@sabrinamcclain162]

Your comment made me rewatch that video.

[@bazooka2476]

I know! I felt cheated

[@DJ_Mystic]

My thoughts exactly.

[@gerardomacias7370]

We’ve been Duped, Bamboozled. We’ve been Smeckledorfed.

[@samuel030s]

In all seriousness, that video is over three years old, and Red’s research process was likely less intensive back then. This video shows different myths surrounding Orion, pointing out one that involved Artemis’ romantic attraction and detailing the origin of the myth. On an unrelated note, Red made some stellar puns in this video, with both “constellation prize” and “Counting Stars” as the outro song of the video.

[@eyoshinthemaximum]

I like the interpretation that Orion and Artemis were just friends and Apollo got too protective

[@Sanjaykumar-zr8my]

*orion's death was first mentioned in Homer's odyssey where it is stated that Artemis slew orion in ortygia* *Hesiod in his book astronomy fragments (8BC - 7BC) that orion was blinded because he tried to assault a king's daughter . Orion later went to crete and spent his time hunting with artemis . Once he boasted that he'd kill all the animals gaia ( earth) sent a scorpion to kill him yet the author pseudo -apollodorus (2AD) says Artemis killed orion because he challenged or tried to assault her nymph opis thus both Apollo and Artemis killed him . so either way the earliest Version suggest that Artemis or gaia killed him not Apollo*

[@Brack_86]

The first version I heard was that Orion became part of Artemis's hunting party (notable bc the rest were women) and they were really good platonic friends in that context. Apollo accused Orion of trying to seduce his sister, Orion said "no I like dudes, as you do" then Apollo got mad over how that's kinda hubris, and made a giant scorpion to kill him. Scorpion kills Orion, Artemis kills scorpion, [idr who] puts them both in the sky.

[@Urd-Vidan]

Didnt they kinda banged too, but Apollo just straight up denies it?

[@Brack_86]

@@Urd-Vidan not that I recall, but probably in some versions

[@lawtonaaj]

@@Urd-Vidan i don't know that apollo could deny banging someone but...his fate fits one of apollo's exes

[@Urd-Vidan]

@@lawtonaaj Some sources say that, although he also bangs guys, he denies that he had sex with them, since it'll "ruin" his rep. Such a weirdo.

[@Honeypot22-o7r]

Alissandro Andres wasn’t he pretty open about his relationship with Hyacinthus?

[@nabringalamkin167]

The belt of Orion is a huge waist of space I'll see myself out.

[@lewisirwin5363]

And Sirius is a stellar boy!

[@markg5611]

terrible joke. Only three stars.

[@callum5926]

Out of this world

[@Gekiko7167]

Not if you like the horsehead nebula. Just check the sky maps. The nebula is in the belt of Orion.

[@nsdtgabe4082]

Mark Gardner that joke was a bit dark...

[@astcastle]

“Constellation Prize.” Go away for a minute, Red. Just:..just go away for a minute.

[@mildsuffering4734]

You new here bro this channels is just a super-eduucational pun filled shitpost and its glorious

[@nickolas474]

Come on, it was funny! I... ...cried...in shame.

[@citrusskeleton7759]

Girl in red reference by Red

[@blarg2429]

Thanks for this comment; I didn't notice that joke. Flew over my head like the stars.

[@hayleeschultz9387]

I adore the platonic version of Artemis and Orion. Because I'm ace and my Aro siblings need representation.

[@elisa4620]

YES. But I also relate to the version where Orian couldn't take a hint and started harassing Artemis ...

[@thelegend8570]

Orion: "I'm gonna kill all the animals!" Gaia: "Lol no"

[@richmcgee434]

It's certainly ambitious even for a demigod-ish sort of fellow. I would think just getting rid of every member of all 350,000+ species of beetles would be well beyond his abilities. They probably breed faster than he can possibly stomp them. And that's not even considering protozoa.

[@stretopovermind9680]

@@richmcgee434 Oh, please. Orion did not say "one by one". Monstrous as he is he can probably just throw huge rocks around until whole planet is under the effect of "impact winter". That would kill all those bugs quite nicely.

[@bthsr7113]

Pro tip, NEVER MAKE GAIA MAD!

[@Loremastrful]

That "Bows before Bros" really got a laugh out of me. That made my morning. Thank you.

[@pathfindersavant3988]

Orion was a pretty good archer. One could say he was quite "Grand" at it.

[@davidalexander8947]

I was looking for this

[@michaelagillan8050]

I will forever love every joke that you make about Zeus being a jerk. They crack me up everytime

[@nirast2561]

Red: "Orion could walk on water thanks to his dad." Percy Jackson: "Dad! We need to talk! NOW!"

[@cuteandcreepy1456]

lol (＾▽＾)

[@pxperrings]

Lol

[@revan0890]

We don't say that name in this channel.

[@anarchomando7707]

That's not the weirdest myth Here's one. There was this girl if who Poseidon liked , one day in her Lover's arms she asked "I want to be a dude, can you make it so?" Poseidon made it so, that's not the strange part however before he did so he asked "Wait is that all? I'm a God that's all you ask?" She said "yeah that's it" "All right however,I'm going to act little bit of extra" So Poseidon also gave her( or him now) Iron skin, he made his boyfriend a Man of Steel

[@rajnaik220]

@@anarchomando7707 poseidon raped caenis

[@MariaVosa]

5:54 "...constellation prize..." Admit this is the sole reason you wanted to do this video Red Admit. It.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I've been to Orion. No literally, there is a well known hyperspace round along his belt and several of his stars have habitable planets.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

General Kenobi, hello there.

[@CykeMonkey]

Isn't that the exit Master Mickey takes to get back to Hyperion? I tend to get my star charts mixed up

[@timothymclean]

But have you seen attack ships fire off his shoulder?

[@lnsflare1]

I thought that you were from a Galaxy Far, Far Away, which doesn't have intergalactic travel yet?

[@atriumgamesmore4336]

That's fucking Obi-Wan Kenobi!

[@user-cu5mc7bv4d]

Fun fact: the “Dawn” depicted that is in love with Orion is likely Eos, Helios and Seline’s sister who was married to Astreaus ( the dusk god), Eos is also the mother of the four winds and the planets.

[@LRoseArts]

I’m here still waiting for her to do a history of Artemis like she did with Dionysus Aphrodite And Hermès

[@apollogodofthesun5630]

I'm still waiting for her to do a history of me.

[@joemerl1145]

Hey, don't yell at the Artemis/Orion shippers, YOU told us that story back in the "Endymion" video!

[@ehthecuteone]

Who else would love to have Red and Blue as professors? 🙋‍♀️

[@sansdremurr607]

Emma Meservy 🙋‍♂️

[@ScribeSorceress]

Orion and Artemis probably platonically loved each other. They cherished each other’s company. As AroAce as Artemis is, that seems the most logical honestly. I like the idea they are friends. Honestly imagine if a version existed where Artemis and Orion platonically loved each other so much that Aphrodite gets pissy about it. “BOYS AND GIRLS ARE SUPPOSED TO *KISS* NOT *HUNT*”

[@joshuaholland5279]

Orion probably had a small crush for like 5 seconds and then realized “oh crap that could lose me my best friend if that turned out bad”

[@hankj.wimbleton3129]

​@@joshuaholland5279 he got struck by one of eros' arrows, fell in love but then realized "oh wait, virgin goddess, i can't do that if i want to keep functioning body parts" and the arrow got dislodged

[@mobgabriel1767]

Apollo thinking that Artemis and orion were dating was 100% aphrodite's fault and nothing can convince me otherwise

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Honestly I love that specific part where Artemis is implied to be super competitive, but specifically with Apollo because he's the only person that could qualify as the same league of bowsomeness. It's like nuclear proliferation but with arrow skillz and they've optimised so far beyond anyone who isn't motivated by the eternal flame of sibling rivalry. Also, I loved the rest of the video because it's delightful and insightful. Also: singing!

[@christianrounds85]

It sounds like a "20XX" shitpost honestly. "The year is 20XX BC. The twins use bows at TAS levels of Perfection. Because of this, the winner of a contest depends solely on last arrow launched. The Rock-Paper-Scissors metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide matches."

[@cocobean0390]

Orion dies. Zeus puts him in the sky as a constellation. Orion: "Hey, this is kinda nice..." Zeus ALSO puts the scorpion there with him. Orion, like drunk Jim Lahey: "Julian!" *Falls down stairs*

[@r.s.2890]

OSP announces they're selling pins of Artemis and Apollo. 5 minutes later, OSP announces they're out of stock. OSP fandom for the win!

[@Kalebfenoir]

I love how Gaea is basically the control mechanism/killswitch for the gods. Like, when they start getting too strong or talking shit, she makes a new kaiju or dozen to kick the crap out of them for a while. You'd think the gods would stop tempting fate, but... here we are. Lol.

[@thecatladytm7172]

Huh. The only things I "knew" (heavy air quotes) about Orion before this were: -He was a hunter -Artemis was his friend/love interest -He's a constellation And now I find out that the one that gives him any sort of character at all is kinda not true. Yay.

[@Urd-Vidan]

Anything is up to cannon, as Red said. Its up to you if you want to believe if he was her love interest or not. For Red, she believes Artemis is just very good friends with Orion. For me, i believe that Agrotora and Candaon have romantic feelings with eachother. Its your choice.

[@mordredpendragonofficial5989]

He also happens to be summoned back as a stuffed teddy bear in Fate/Grand Order

[@Urd-Vidan]

@@mordredpendragonofficial5989 If he's summoned with Artemis. If not, he's big body of muscle with a heart of a true bro.

[@thecatladytm7172]

@@mordredpendragonofficial5989 That sounds adorable.

[@mordredpendragonofficial5989]

@@thecatladytm7172 eh sort of? It's a little weird seeing a talking teddy bear flirt with anything with two legs. Especially when Artemis is also there and keeps calling the stuffed bear "darling". It's strange. But yes, I suppose it could be cute.

[@raffikilee18]

So basically, people wrote Orion as Artemis's only love because of *ancient shipping.*

[@everest5718]

Yeah, and we mistook it for being canon by accident

[@Jellycat123-v5n]

​@@everest5718humans: mistaking fannon cannon since achint Greece

[@gabgonzales4570]

I misread the title and got so confused about why Red suddenly started talking about constellations when the title said Onion

[@ntm4]

Ah yes, the ancient Onion myth: this myth has layers.

[@katiehunt8993]

*All Star intensifies*

[@suckit1335]

*Shrek yelling in his swamp in the distance*

[@deargodwhatamidoing1122]

Translators when looking at Achillis haveing a relationship with a dude: Oh him and Patroclus were Best bro’s with one of the strongest friendships we have seen. When translator looks at artemis (WHO Is MOSTLY KNOWN FOR NOT BEING INTO DUDES!) haveing s friendship with a dude: They just loved eachother but one of Them died and the other Got really mad!

[@duxhunt]

The shippers are at it again with the homophobes known as the Catholic Church doing the early translation

[@lunaakuma5044]

"constellation prize" Yes. This is definitely the quality content I subscribed for

[@grumpyhound8666]

I always love How red gives historical context for why gods change and are perceived differently as time goes on.

[@annef0x]

So Apollo is a disaster bi, got it... Disaster in the sense that if he even THINKS about ur love life, You Dead.

[@clayxros576]

Just like a regular one, but the death applies to others rather than himself, yes?

[@nate2657]

"If I can't have love no one will!" -Apollo at some point

[@Moonlitwatersofaqua]

It is kind funny that the twins consist of a super disaster bi and super ace chick.

[@Aplesedjr]

nate d. It’s more like “no one can have love but me.”

[@Xtersin]

@@Aplesedjr nah it's more like "WHY DOES EVERYONE I LOVE DIE". Poor guy.

[@AcidGlow]

Fascinating. I love this stuff. ✅🙂

[@rithwikp.m]

hi

[@Anonymos185]

Imagine being killed by an animal after declaring you would kill all animals *this meme was made by SCORPIO GANG*

[@KaiseaWings]

Huh. See I always liked the last Orion myth but I interpreted it as their being close friends, and Apollo misunderstands their friendship as sexual, gets creepy protective and tricks her into killing him. Sort of comphet in microcosm. I liked the idea of Artemis and Orion bonding over a shared sport. So it was less 'the only man she ever loved' and more a close friendship mistaken for romantic, because if that ain't the story of my life...

[@clayxros576]

Which considering how many men Artemis liked, could still be considered accurate lol

[@Sanjaykumar-zr8my]

*orion's death was first mentioned in Homer's odyssey where it is stated that Artemis slew orion in ortygia* *Hesiod in his book astronomy fragments (8BC - 7BC) that orion was blinded because he tried to assault a king's daughter . Orion later went to crete and spent his time hunting with artemis . Once he boasted that he'd kill all the animals gaia ( earth) sent a scorpion to kill him yet the author pseudo -apollodorus (2AD) says Artemis killed orion because he challenged or tried to assault her nymph opis thus both Apollo and Artemis killed him . so either way the earliest Version suggest that Artemis or gaia killed him not Apollo*

[@timothymclean]

Red: "Studying mythology isn't usually about arguing canon, because there's no point." Theologians: "But if there's no point to arguing canon, what good is my degree?"

[@georgethompson913]

But if there's no point arguing canon how do i know someone's a heretic?

[@IceQueen975]

Or "But how can I shove my political agenda in there now?!"

[@kortmann9]

I mean, it makes for some good entertainment I guess?

[@lucaswinsor4469]

I feel like I should mention that Theology and Mythology are entirely different subjects no matter what religion you're talking about...

[@timothymclean]

@@lucaswinsor4469 Yeah, one is for religions that a significant number of people follow. The core of the joke is the "There's no point arguing about canon" thing, not a conflation theology and mythology.

[@1st_Trazyn_TheInfinite]

In some retellings, Apollo drove Orion mad because he didn't like how much time he was spending with his sister. And in others, his saying he's going to kill every animal in the world is translated to mean more of "I'm going to hunt every animal on earth", essentially saying that Gaia misunderstood what he said. (Hunt every single animal essentially meaning hunt at least one of every animal)

[@jacobberg373]

No, that was just the Percy Jackson version, Apollo simply either sent the scorpion or tricked Artemis into killing him. The whole "I'm going to kill every animal on Earth" was due to good old hubris and getting way into killing shit with arrows.