Miseducation of Lauryn Hill: The Album That Changed Everything

[@tampear]

I remember when this album came out. I was 23 and dealing with the same stuff Lauryn was. I had it on repeat for months. I felt seen. Such a classic. You probably already know this, but @DissectPodcast did a special mini-season on this album for 20th anniversary. On another note, there's something about the less than perfect format of your show that I really love. Feels more natural. Thanks for adding a needed voice to the hip hop conversation.

[@SladeW5218]

Starting 2025 discussing classic music 🤌🏾🏆

[@yodayoda317]

🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@daking901]

Would've loved to have FD Signifier on this one 😂😂

[@matthewlister3755]

Why doesn't this channel have a million subscribers? Apparently it pays more to be a low effort slop youtuber than a good take factory. Excellent discussion. I feel lucky to have been in college when this album came out. Perfect time for a perfect record.

[@neruneri]

Give it time brother, they've only been putting out videos and pods for a month or so! They're growing super quickly and it's well deserved!

[@BlissfullyLed]

They’ve just started and they’re growing quickly. Watch it flourish!

[@perfectallycromulent]

Because KZbin is based on video, and these guys are just sitting there. You want a million subscribers, you need to have an actual video, not a camera in front of you while you do your podcast.

[@yodayoda317]

ikr its gonna get der tho it just strted not too long ago but dey on dey way with this type of top tier content

[@DMD-n9s]

Nah they’ll surpass a million many times over

[@Gnb496]

I love this channel. I am so tired of many in this current generation being inspired by previous generations but disregarding and disrespecting it at the same time. They want to rewrite the rules of engagement and just be so dismissive and I despise it. Thats why I love Rap Latte!

[@navigator.jpgggg]

I have this album cover as a tattoo ❤ The part discussing the skits of the classroom; one of the first things I ever remembered was that there was a roll call; they called out Lauryns name and she didn't answer; she wasn't in the class = The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, she missed this classroom/missed these lessons, each song is a lesson that she missed. ❤

[@deas9410]

Missy and Doechii can rap and sing

[@SladeW5218]

💯 thank you for this because Missy doesn't get the credit she deserves imo, and Doechii is a ⭐

[@tampear]

I was thinking about Doechii also. Good catch about Missy.

[@koolgai1442]

Sing, yes they can, but their singing isn’t like Lauryn’s singing, that singing that really infuses itself into your spirit

[@sarahfortune7760]

Not rap and sing better than Lauryn though

[@daelin9759]

I’m 20 years old, the day I turned 18, my mother played “To Zion” and sang it to me because she listened to that song all the time when I was a baby. Lauren Hill is her favorite artist of all time just off this one album and she passed this album down to me and now Lauren is one of my all time favorites. This album is not just one of the best hip hop or r&b albums of all time, it’s one of the best pieces of black art of all time. It’s bigger than any one genre. And to me that puts Lauren on a small list of black artists whose music and impact on the culture is way beyond whatever genre of music they made. This album is part of the soundtrack to our f**king race bro like yall don’t understand…

[@KTJ_1]

Zion is such a beautiful song but it never really hit me until it played after my wife told me she was pregnant, and it brought me peace. I finally heard the song and understood the emotion. Ms Hill will be with us forever.

[@derekmatthews2213]

The parents of this generation are Q tip and Lauryn. Missy and Andre are the uncle and aunt. Everyone else is the kids and great grandkids.

[@jadiepie]

I’m around the 15:00 min mark and I think what you were reaching for of why Lost Ones has that reggae/dancehall feel is because it’s a sample/interpolation of Bam Bam by Sister Nancy, a Jamaican artist. Kanye also sampled that song for Famous. Lauryn is one of my favorite rappers of all time! Idk what it is but Geminis truly have a way with words cuz the list of talented rappers is STACKED. I would say that in modern times, someone like Doechii shows great promise in being equally as talented in rapping and singing (I hadn’t realized that What It Is was her as well) I would have to say others who rap and sing on a pretty equal footing would be people like Missy, CeeLo, and maybe Doja Cat. I’ve been loving what you guys are doing with that podcast by the way! It’s so fun and educational to hear some of these topics from people who’ve had skin in the game. Hope you guys have an even bigger 2025! Happy New Year~~💖🎉

[@MNHLYFG]

cee lo green is lauren's only comp as equal parts mc & vocalist.

[@MartyMcFly__25]

I think Janelle Monae has case also

[@MNHLYFG]

@MartyMcFly__25 she's extremely talented but i don't think any of her work has the commercial or cultural impact of lauren or cee lo.

[@GreenNgold7]

Great shout

[@p4rt_t1me_g0d]

Your response is so shallow, there are more than just those two.

[@GreenNgold7]

@@p4rt_t1me_g0d name three more

[@marylander3798]

I got this on vinyl for Xmas

[@TympaniWiggins]

That's dope❤🎉

[@ArmLegLegArmHead47]

So glad I found this channel, every single convo is insightful, meaningful, funny and relatable. That's a crazy feat. Thank you from the European diaspora 🙏🏾

[@malikdillahunt4524]

Mos def has got a pretty good voice. Also Phonte of Little Brother is a great singer.

[@KingxGreen]

Appreciate yall HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎉

[@demitasse22]

Happy New Year!! I love your artist to painter similarities. Love it!! 🎶 🖼️🖌️

[@p4rt_t1me_g0d]

Rappers/Singers other than L, Yasiin Bey (Mos Def), Phonte Coleman, Ceelo Green, Missy Elliott ,Angie Stone, etc.

[@deas9410]

Ok let me listen to Miseducation for the millionth time 😂

[@jojoFLiCK]

The College Dropout is the little brother to this album in my opinion. I’m 23, my mom was 17 when this album came out and 23 when TCDO came out and played these albums together a lot and it genuinely feels so similar.

[@KPWASRIGHT]

L Boogie is in my top 5 all time

[@YetiCoolBrother]

Man yall gotta go back and cover my boy JID's "The Forever Story", he one of them ones I swear

[@arlingo]

Lauryn has always been on my top 5 of all time. Doo Wop raised me to not be a fuckboi.

[@QuandaleDingleBarnacleJonesIII]

I would say Anderson Paak is maybe on the same tier when it comes to singing/rapping, although lauryn prob got him when it comes to rapping

[@frederickthorne2496]

10K!!!!

[@modernchow]

i appreciate rap latte so much! this is great topic and just a great show with 2 amazing hosts. great start to 2025, setting the tone!

[@ess-pee-arr]

Bringing in the new year the right way, with a discussion on a top 5 Hip Hop album. 👍🏽🎉

[@leobien0717]

Janelle Monáe is an amazing rapper/singer.

[@eddietheunggoyslayer3904]

I just listened to this album today because of this show actually, you both have been talking about it through out your episodes and I wanted to make sure I listened to it before this episode. I'm a 28 year old male

[@Scholar_Noire]

This album has been in the background of my whole life but I really took ownership of my experience with it when I was in middle school. It signaled my coming of age and shaped my creative lens significantly.

[@GreenNgold7]

Let’s not forget what Kanye said on champion. The first person that popped to my mind when the question of who are the other children of this album was Kanye

[@yodayoda317]

it feels good knowing the culture is in good hands... hip hop is back quality over quantity rap latte is my favorite new content love toure and the green guy both goats 💯💯

[@antoinetteyoung5806]

Love Toure ❤

[@TamiaPeach]

I would say Doechii sings and raps equally well. I would love a Miseducation style album from her. Black Girl Memoir, Denial is a River, etc are in the same thread of post-growth introspection and reflection.

[@Le_Petomane]

GOOD! Simply good.

[@blaquehealer5484]

Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, Missy Elliott, Floetry (duet), Brandy (she has a Rap EP, but her mom strongly managed her imagine), BoneThugs&Harmony are uniquely themselves, and they can harmonize, but their lyrics are very HipHop. However, they are overlooked Recent contemporaries that i know are very limited: Doechii, Smino, Samara Cyn, Beyonce after she said she is a Black artist and she will be giving her ancestors their flowers (less Pop focused and she can rap)!

[@CED.Dweller]

Had me at the title…beautiful way to start the year!

[@mt2188]

drake's someone who follows in lauryns footsteps even though hes not as good of a singer as her. hes probably one of if not the only rappers right now who can have r&b singing hits aswell as straight rapping hits on the same album

[@arlingo]

If he didn't use ghost writers, he'd be considered. But Ms Hill still wins on substance.

[@ArmLegLegArmHead47]

Aubrey has no substance in his music, uses ghost writers and his pop songs carry no message. "Doo-Wop" is pop but still deep and thoughtful. Aubrey can't do that

[@Izzo4ever]

Even though Drake doesn’t sing as well, Nothing was the same has a similar Rapping/Singing

[@hendrx]

He doesn't sing well, also doesn't write his own sht. What can he actually do?

[@Izzo4ever]

Even though I agree with your moral stance. 1. We didn’t know at the time 2. Even the Rap Latte guys agree it was blend between hip pop 3. Only speaking about sounds nothing to do with content

[@Izzo4ever]

R&B

[@Charmane73]

29:18 I see Nikki as fruit of the tree of Lauryn, the Lil Kim nods were from the marketing and label. They straight ripped Lil Kim’s looks and I believe that’s why Nikki never truly accepted the Lil Kim comparisons. Nikki is so multifaceted like Hill and I can see why she would be insulted by the being put in the Lil Kim box who is known for not writing, having to be taught to flow .

[@sarahfortune7760]

Especially when Nicki considers Foxy more influential to her than Kim.

[@leoneldelarosa814]

There are two precedents to the kind of stuff Lauryn was kinda going for imo. On one hand, there's the combination of r&b singing and good rapping, and while there was not a single artist that could do both as well as Lauryn, I first heard that combination in TLC, and I think it's gotta be a precedent. On the other hand, if there's an artist that embodied the smoothness of Soul and had a spiritual energy and an aura that I think works as a precedent, that's gotta be Sade. And in that regard, to me the only other 90s album that contained that level of perfection as Miseducation did in '98, was Love Deluxe in '92. In many ways, Sade is still criminally underrated in the musical discourse -- primarily because most of those conversations are centered in the US, and for us International music fans, Sade is just as important as Lauryn when it comes to producing life-changing female albums. Also, LOVE the podcast. Greetings from Mexico.

[@jedweiss3967]

Phonte is the only other one I can think of who both raps and sings at an elite level.

[@OGTBella]

Loved the discussion about what tree Nicki comes from. I'm gen x and definitely felt like she was the next generation of Lil Kim and Foxxy but I have been given something to think about. I would have NEVER compared her or even thought she was influenced by Lauryn.

[@sarahfortune7760]

I know she's influenced by Lauryn because she said it herself. But if I don't have that knowledge, I never would've expected it either.

[@ArmLegLegArmHead47]

Geminis run HipHop 🙏🏾❤️

[@sarahfortune7760]

Lauryn Hill is the best rapper that can sing.

[@nickadt]

I think Doja Cat is a serviceable if not good rapper singer, and Missy Elliot is a quadruple threat in terms of rapping singing writing and producing (and unlike Miss Hill Missy's shows up and shows out at her concerts), the only one who I can think who can rap rap and sang comparable to Lauryn Hill is Queen Latifah.

[@ProdJakera]

i think doja cat is incredibly underrated but i also think doechii has everything she has and more

[@nickadt]

@ProdJakera Doechiing has all the ingredients for sure and 2024 was her coming out party no doubt. I get Ms Hill vibes with her too but out of respect for Ms Hill I can't compare her to a relatively Freshman act.

[@ProdJakera]

@@nickadt completely fair. doechii's definitely got major potential though. the conversation around her could look completely different in 5 years

[@sarahfortune7760]

Much respect to Doja, Missy and Queen. But I don't think they can rap as well as Lauryn, and when it comes to singing, Lauryn was and still is the best rapper that can sing.

[@thephantazm5139]

I hope they archive this

[@designerguy6257]

THANK YOU!

[@woe6994]

Beyoncé and Rihanna in comparison to Lauryn in 2025 lol?

[@Le_Petomane]

Deep.

[@hendrx]

Surprisingly I didn't like a single track and all I listen to is old school hip hop. I REALLY tried

[@PharaohDom]

Greatest side chick album of all time.

[@blaquehealer5484]

I can't abide this dismissal of many Black artists while propping up of Amy Whinehouse (who was majorly takented) and Drake. Toure and your misogyny is a bit willful ignorance because the female lyricist because they owning their sexuality and women can be influential and sexual beings. I dont agree with Nikki, Drake being socially concious. Megqn Thee Stallion traumazine is very enlightening and her sexuality is addressed for HER and not for the male gaze!

[@4stepDC]

I always thought D’Angelo influence Lauryn Hill. Because of brown sugar.

[@drewd6426]

This is how me and the homies will talk about Baby Tate in 20 years Also Doja Cat can sing and rap but instead of global Black Culture like Lauryn, Doja has memes

[@hectorgonzalez3117]

5:37 I would say only Drake comes close. Obviously Hill is more talented and wasn’t focused solely on commercial success.

[@GreenNgold7]

This man said Nicki 3way is more lauryn than Kim🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[@OFFICIALR-SONtheVoiceofReason]

I know I'm the only person I know that was DISAPPOINTED by this album. I wanted more L Boogie bars on this.

[@producedbykaeph]

This album was mid. The D’Angelo joint is the best…and it’s NOT HIPHOP

[@kingofdelfinusdelphus1743]

This album is one of those once in a lifetime works.. i.e. Thriller, Songs In the Key of Life, Purple Rain