Mishra: Don’t Tell Me the Engine Lines | R3

[@Richard_Stroker]

Hard to believe he's only 14 years old. Has the maturity of someone who's at least 24 years old.

[@xxx333mmm]

full of immigrants in those american competitions@@nicbentulan

[@badgoogle9938]

@@xxx333mmm Yeah you don't see many native American competing

[@KingElrosTarMinyatur]

@@xxx333mmmhe’s not an immigrant. He is American by birth

[@loverofripandtear6578]

Of course!! Bro... chess meld your brain non cap

[@chessisbest]

Love the way Mishra starts the interview. Not all the fans want to know the engine lines either! But I love the idea of respecting all the players by not showing them the engine lines during the post game analysis. It's a chance to hear their thoughts. We can all check the engine any time we like. Ty for this great coverage! I have now become a big Mishra fan. Go Mishra!! Best of luck on getting to 2700 in the next 13 months. :)

[@Fauxcault_]

In 40 years when Leko retires as a commentator we have his successor lined up! This kid is so good.

[@maatte7093]

yeah this kid is good

[@sebastiancruxian6518]

Are we sure he is 14 years old? He talks with so much confidence.

[@billj4525]

Seems very mature for 14 also.

[@EliteCubingAlliance]

He beat levon aronian at 14 years old. A former 2830 rated player making him the 4th highest rated player in history behind Carlsen, Kasparov, and Caruana. This kid is a beast!!!

[@EliteCubingAlliance]

@@nicbentulan What the heck are you talking about?

[@EliteCubingAlliance]

@@nicbentulan Magnus and Garry don't cheat. Where is your proof?

[@ruthxk7844]

It was good to see them both analyzing without engine!

[@kipperjones8072]

This kid can talk about chess.

[@Vendavalez]

You have to be above a certain level of good to be able to talk about something competently and correctly. Being able to and not being able to speaks for itself.

[@jonathanjoensen2679]

Kipperjones8072, exactly! Unlike Niemann he seems to know and understand the complexity of the positions.. Makes You wonder..😅

[@scottjasper5424]

People that hated on him being a GM now look silly. This kid is amazing.

[@wincentwincentwincent]

this is how you know a chess grandmaster know and recognize his own position

[@n1te]

unlike "chess speaks for itself"

[@raflalink]

Lol, after h4, “this is all my preparation” move 22… move 22!!!

[@dannygjk]

There are book lines into the 30s and I don't mean mating attacks or winning combinations or draws.

[@kurtglathar5162]

@@dannygjk Those are rarely actually played though. Yes, there is theory that reaches that far, but 30 move prep is extremely uncommon because your opponent most likely won't play the exact moves you prepared for out that far

[@GeekProdigyGuy]

​@@kurtglathar5162it's not that uncommon when superGMs study well-known openings.

[@odysseas573]

@@kurtglathar5162 It is mainly the nature of this opening. The semi-slav has extremely forcing lines that go on for quite a while. In the Botvinnik Semi-Slav the theory goes certain lines have 40+ moves of theory. Even most intermediate amateurs that play the semi-slav have 20+ moves memorized in most variations. That's the appeal of this opening: you know more, you win.

[@chess_poemschess]

Magnus' future S tier rival

[@fennofir7791]

what a machine

[@addisonmerryman6541]

Hans: "Why didn't I think of this?"

[@vikramkrishnan6414]

h4 was all my prep: jumps to move 23 😱😱😱

[@psybranet]

Future Engine

[@MathematicianDr]

You know when he opens his mouth to talk about chess that he lives, breathes, and eats chess, and only chess. Incredible stuff!

[@kennethwoods6525]

Abhimanyu Mishra made GM at 12! He'll be an engine himself soon enough. 👍

[@seya_2]

Sergey Karjakin also was a GM at 12. He challenged Magnus after winning the candidates and actually won the first game in the WC after couple of draws. Hope to see him challenge somebody else in the future for WC

[@GEM4sta]

@@seya_2 Karjakin blows but it's a good point that Mishra might also blow, you never know.

[@billj4525]

@@GEM4sta He doesn't blow. Karajakin played for the world championship. Compared to Magnus he does, but everyone does compared to him. Mishra won't be close to him either.

[@GEM4sta]

@@billj4525 Oh sorry I meant compared to literally anyone that was good, like Levon, Hikaru, Caruana, even like Wesley So. The dude has never made the 2800 list... I mean if we're comparing him to like Nepo he's probably fine. Both of them go down in history as unimpressive WC candidates. It's like we got Kasparov and Karpov and you're over here talking about how good gata kamsky is... like yeah I guess good at being 8th best lol.

[@OrangeBarnacle]

​@@GEM4staKarjakin was much more impressive than Nepo against Magnus. He also won a game in classical, unlike even Fabiano, and was leading the match for a while!

[@StoneRelicStudios]

I like this kid

[@bertoldopolare]

now go rewatching Niemann interview of the last year of the game with Firouzya XD

[@Tests]

Hans beating him now though

[@bertoldopolare]

never said he isn't a 2600's player, but this is the kind of analisys of young guys (look at Indian youngsters analysis too) lines over lines of moves, instead of "I dont have to show variations" after sacrificing a full piece XD @@Tests

[@ndnd7614]

Hans lost so much elo after getting exposed he needs to cheat again to get back his elo 😂

[@Shrey1g]

​@@ndnd7614 he played open, tournaments you bozo, magnus ended with 2.5 in a open tournament of avg 2270 elo, this year

[@VARMOT123]

​@@TestsMishra is like 6 years younger ffs and will be the same rating this year

[@anthonygross1963]

When you’re 16 you have the energy.

[@Phurngirathaana]

​@@kramnikstudentc24you are as lazy as I am 😂😂😂

[@zepeterinma]

I’m 30 and I still have the energy to branch out and look at various transpositions from an earlier position and contemplate various continuations.

[@zepeterinma]

Okay I’m not 30 but I’m in my late 20s so I’m rounding up.

[@kurtglathar5162]

Future world champ. Hadn't heard of him until recently, but he's built different

[@geizuko9927]

Built different to who? Seems like an overstatement to me. Everybody knows improvement in chess isn’t some straight line. It doesn’t matter how quickly you break the early boundaries but rather how convincingly you break the truly elite ones.

[@builderphill1361]

​@@geizuko9927 he was born in 2009 lmao

[@kennethwoods6525]

Yes indeed! Abhimanyu Mishra has extraordinary potential.

[@kurtglathar5162]

@@geizuko9927 In the famous words of Hans Niemann, his "chess speaks for itself"

[@kurtglathar5162]

@@geizuko9927 And also, if the #2 ranked player in the world and former world champion challenger is saying he's some kind of genius, I'll take his word over yours. No offense.

[@Thexaxisacademy2023]

Genius Boyy 🎉 rooting for you Boy ❤️

[@Redz-zl4ki]

Hans destroyed this kid's dream.

[@hashcr2]

Christian is impressing me.. hahah his speed to follow these guys...

[@GoranRadic]

Unless he reads the engine, what is the purpose of Christian C? He is the engine successor of Maurice.

[@Dadaadad268]

Hans smashed him back into reality

[@nihilistPenguinz]

Big daddy Hans

[@richardlobo88]

Hans is not good enough to be considered an elite chess player.

[@scottekoontz]

@@richardlobo88 ... buy some Richard guy. OK then Rich, thanks for the gut feelings.

[@richardlobo88]

@@scottekoontz see his performance against other youngsters. He couldn't draw a single game against erigiasi, there are more talented youngsters in America like Christopher yoo and awonder Liang. Hans is decent, but not top 20 players level.

[@scottekoontz]

@@richardlobo88 See his performance against Magnus Carlson. Carlson lost. Hans won. OK, your turn for anecdotes and some gut feelings. Oh wait, Hans beat Mamedyarov. Hans is not top (insert random number to "prove" point) player level.

[@rahulasthana4607]

In a conversation, I've never heard anybody refer to castling as triple zeroes.

[@billyweaver2236]

I believe he's referring to the evaluation as 0.00

[@rahulasthana4607]

@@billyweaver2236 you are correct. My mistake.

[@ChessJourneyman]

This is a legitimate GM who can analyze the games without the engine assistance - Hans on the other hand...

[@scottekoontz]

... is a legitimate GM who clearly analyzed his games, plus his ELO is higher. Happy to complete your thought.

[@carlkligerman1981]

What about using engine analysis is antithetical to being an authentic GM? It’s standard practice, Mishra explicitly states the only reason he doesn’t want the engine lines in the interview is because reviewing his games with the engine on his own is part of his training regime (he no doubt treats each position like a puzzle and attempts to find the lines). Indubitably this kid is a phenomenal talent and looks likely to perform very well in this championship, that’s no reason to cast aspersions on another young GM who is also brilliant but quite openly curious to see engine evaluation as soon as he can, and who is also playing an exciting brand of chess and, what’s that, o yeah, beat the young prodigy?

[@sergemerto256]

Watch this and then watch Hans's one. You might even feel that Hans is not even an IM

[@jakeb.2990]

near-Hans levels of chadness

[@lordwiz2236]

Ya I mean I m from India and I tot and he too is of Indian origin and I felt he will be humble like our junior's like pragg nihal Gukesh and Arjun but he is not 😅 ..but he is playing good chess. Good for him and USA.

[@shashishekhar----]

​@@lordwiz2236he is humble tho

[@jatinkaushik689]

The only thing is that we can't take pride in his success

[@YRMW1983]

Why?

[@mortalwomprat]

Nah he’s got a point. New Jersey is basically another country

[@SrisNayana]

@@mortalwomprat can you explain?

[@shashishekhar----]

We can

[@ericb7937]

Maybe show us the engine while all those GMs keep it off

[@tombystander]

🇺🇸

[@PaulCramo]

They are ALL genius prodigies .. until they come up against Carlsen or Nakamura.

[@shashishekhar----]

Don't put naka in the same sentence as Carlsen

[@gffg387]

I can guarantee that this kid will be World Champion. He's just a machine of chess.

[@Corteum]

WC by age 21.

[@defer114]

Relax. People were saying the same thing about Wei Yi when he crossed 2700 at 15 years old. He's now 24 and has stagnated in the low to mid 2700's since then. People plateau at different points in their development and don't just keep improving indefinitely. Mishra is extremely talented but there's no guarantees in chess.

[@Corteum]

@@defer114 You're right that there are no guarantees in chess. That's always gonna be the case. All we have to go on is move quality, error rate, consistency, and overall performance levels and progress stats. It's not perfect, but it's pretty useful and insightful.

[@defer114]

@@Corteum I don't disagree with any of that, but I'm replying to a post that literally said "I can guarantee that this kid will be World Champion." You then responded to that by saying "WC (world champion) by age 21". Which means you're claiming he's not only going to be world champion, but the youngest world champion in history. Kasparov and Carlsen were both 22, Tal and Karpov were 23. The kid is 14 years old, he's very talented, but people need to calm down. Maybe he should prove himself at the top level first ( against 2700+ gm's) before we proclaim he's going to be one of the top players in history.

[@Corteum]

@@defer114 haha dont take my first comment sereiously. no one can really know that for sure. i just threw it in as a wild guess. but dont hold me to it! let's just see how it plays out! there's never been a more exciting time for chess. with such a large pool of super strong players and rising talents, it's going to be freakin awesome to see!

[@XDR2201]

This is the kind of teen we should support not Hans “Unbeadable” Niemann. Go Mishra.

[@SH-dl4jk]

hans not teen bruh

[@XDR2201]

@@SH-dl4jk He was competing in World Junior Chess Championship 2023 days ago…

[@SH-dl4jk]

@@XDR2201 he’s 20 bruh

[@tezofu465]

you Hans is ahead of the game coz he does his computer analysis during the game unlike mishra lol

[@one_fella]

this guy can dismantle that cheater nieman

[@Stopitgetsomehelp3012]

Niemann defeated him though

[@shashishekhar----]

​@@Stopitgetsomehelp3012wait for him to atleast get 20

[@איתמר-ג6ע]

i like how mishra explains things but i dont like the comentators way

[@bilbonec]

> Tell us about the game [Mishra] Chess speaks for itself Sorry, wrong guy; this one can talk about chess.

[@scottekoontz]

Love that Hans talks in detail about his games, people still refer to a previous discussion. Weird, but here we are.

[@bilbonec]

@@scottekoontz This discussion is now a meme.

[@dantemarcos1410]

Hes much better than Hans bead Neman when it comes to game recap 😅

[@Ramin2340]

but much worse at playing