Missing Titanic submarine was 'shoddy' and I pulled out at the last minute

[@dave.willard]

I am a veteran of the US submarine service. This video is spot on. Redundancy and certification are the two most important things and it appears they said no to both. This was no accident. It was an avoidable tragedy.

[@tajmajal4197]

Certification would have cost the company a nice sum, right? So let's skip it and save some dough in the process.

[@j.o.s.h.]

What is the US Submarine Service? Most people just call it the Navy 🙄

[@LydiaDevlin]

​@@j.o.s.h.not all navy go on subs. Some just go on ships.

[@dave.willard]

@@j.o.s.h. same reason a Seal team member calls themselves a Seal and not a sailor even though they are both. These are 100% voluntary services.

[@gajemouje]

And add wokeness also..to explain this disaster..RIP to the passengers

[@Dina1111C]

The owner said there were risks and then said there are risks in getting out of bed. That’s a salesman, not a scientist.

[@markbishop1588]

There are risks getting out of bed,especially when it isn't your bed +her husband is coming up the stairs.

[@1977edd]

@@markbishop1588 what if your in a bungalow

[@aClownBaby-]

@@markbishop1588 Classic

[@OGLizardKing]

Risks are calculated. And in this instance, they calculated poorly.

[@scottpryorsz28]

What does a scientist have to do with engineering,thats who builds this kind stuff not scientists.

[@dilipnigam007]

The cruel irony that a submersible, claimed by its captain to be "obscenely safe," is lost exploring the wreck of a steamship claimed to be "unsinkable."

[@donyoung7874]

@@C12341 Isn't it asking for trouble to name a ship after another ship that has sunk?

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

​@@C12341he wanted titanic sequel really bad

[@irisflow7461]

​@@donyoung7874yup. Words carry energy and they named that thing after a ghost ship and went right next to it. Look how that worked out

[@Richard_Cranium]

Titans where also locked up in the abyss of Tartarus.

[@fu4616]

@@C12341 Agreed.

[@Twmpa]

From footage I have seen, Stockton Rush was a man who considered safety standards as a hindrance and inconvenience to his ego and ambitions. It is becoming more and more apparent that Oceangate refused to seek certification because they knew, that with the Titan, they simply wouldn't achieve it. I agree with other commenters on here, this was not an accident but an avoidable tragedy.

[@thorfinsky1427]

* inevitable tragedy.

[@phil4986]

Reporters asked this gentleman yesterday about this sub and he refused to be specific about his concerns. i want to thank him for being more open today. Stockton Rush was a con man, not an adventurer, not an explorer. He was completely invested in his own delusions about himself and completely ignored the reality of the environment he was trying to expose his craft and the people with him too. Now he and his four victims are dead. I have absolutely massive respect for this man who looked at the completely amateur device and insane way Rush ran his company and said. "We are not risking our lives in THAT." And again, I thank him for being specific. He is saving people's lives by telling them what he saw that saved his and all his friends lives.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

rush was IN a rush to make money, but he rushed himself to his own demise also.

[@Dash120z]

@@Lauren-vd4qe he also has the blood of a 19 year old in his (soaked) hands.

[@giancarlom.]

Some fools here in KZbin commented that Xbox controllers are also used in drones. And I was like 😂😂😂😂 “are you getting on a drone? You want me to strap you on that and let’s find out?” 😂😂😂

[@DeanAckroyd-iv5ci]

If I were in the submarine I'd consider killing the other 4 passengers then the remaining oxygen will last 5 times longer. Also, if there's no food you could devour the dead bodies. I don't mean to be callous, but it does make sense tbh. I'm only saying, better that one survives instead of none.

[@slushystraw251]

@@DeanAckroyd-iv5cinoted. Staying away from you in any form of survival scenario.

[@jtfc7286]

He must feel so weird now - a combination of relief that he isn’t there but also a weird feeling of guilt/sadness that somebody he knew was on it and that it could easily have been him

[@adrianlouw2499]

Who is "He" I never caught his name or relation?

[@SME5724]

His experience was in 2018 … still an ire feeling

[@adrianlouw2499]

@@SME5724 What's his name? I wanna look into the guy.

[@commiesnzombies]

@@SME5724 final destination, the shadow has been chasing him ever since

[@uglyjizznas]

@@adrianlouw2499 His name is Chris Brown (not a joke)

[@allthingsnu4673]

I feel so sad for the youngest passenger whose aunt said he was afraid to go because it didn't seem safe but he went anyway to bond with his father. On another note, I don't see why uncertified vessels are still allowed to go into the water... isn't the purpose of certification to keep people safe? UPDATE: After making this post, the mother said that her son wanted to go and was looking forward to it. The information I heard on tv from his aunt was incorrect.

[@paulfrost8952]

Their was an idiot in the UK who attempted to sail around the UK in a glorified bath tub. After having to be rescued several times the life boat crew went and smashed it up before he could set sail again - problem solved!

[@Stevie8654]

Outside of the territorial waters of a country, there’s not a ton that can be done about that.

[@allurach1746]

@@paulfrost8952Link?

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

you cant force people to be safe.. what you can do is hold them liable when they are not.. the people who died paid a quarter million a piece to be there. if you have that kind of money and you dont pay attention to the quality of the items you spend it on. i have no sympathy.. i wont buy a used car with body filler in it. and these rich twats went to the bottom of the ocean in a plastic home made submarine.. *YOU* have to be responsible for your safety! STOP expecting there to be a law or rule to do it for you so you can prance about with no responsibility..

[@cowpolk5763]

Submarine travel is too new, specifically the touristic deep depth side of things. If you're in international waters zero laws apply

[@metricdeep8856]

Finally, someone who uses their head and can make a reasonable assessment of a home-made submarine and step away. This was an avoidable tragedy....and it leans very strongly towards negligent homicide.

[@BlazingOwnager]

I'm all for people making homemade subs but if you're going past the most shallow of depths, damn it, that needs regulation. This was insane. Every expert that had contact with it condemned and wrote about it as being a huge problem. This wasn't a hindsight is 20/20 thing.

[@brianglade848]

Where's the can....someone who uses his head and can.... What can?

[@metricdeep8856]

@@brianglade848 There is no period after the word “can”….which, for literate people, would indicate that there is more of the sentence to follow……and could and should complete the idea…..No? I’m sorry that you struggle. Inbreeding has its drawbacks.

[@brianglade848]

@@metricdeep8856 wat?

[@picorrow]

​@@metricdeep8856You're pretty stupid yourself (perhaps the only one who is stupid). You can't expect people who know nothing about the field to be able to sleuth that the sub isn't constructed properly. The audience of these trips is made of tourists, not engineers. Like any human faced with a company that has performed many trips and exhibits blissfully ignorant confidence, they fell into the trap. Stockton Rush seems to have been a very charismatic man, able to play his role as CEO well, the face of the company. Unless you were an engineer like the professional in the video, you're retarded ass may have been tricked. Stop living in hindsight, get off the computer, and touch some grass. I know you -->can

[@cavaleer]

They didn't want to have the vessel inspected? Yet people still wanted to climb in. Unreal. This guy is a smart man.

[@aaisme2000]

This vessel had been on over 40 trips to the Titanic from 2021 - 2022.

[@Epic12819]

@@aaisme2000 Yes but the CEO of oceangate decided to use a new method to drive it which was a gaming controller, pretty stupid idea if you ask me and he didnt do a test drive to make sure it was okay to use

[@alexlasky2031]

@@Epic12819the controller didn’t implode the sub

[@Epic12819]

@@alexlasky2031 the controller disconnected from the sub tho

[@alexlasky2031]

@@Epic12819 yeah… when the sub imploded

[@theusefulchannel]

A fine example of If it doesn't feel right, don't do it.

[@Valentina-wd4wt]

As they say "When in doubt, don't."

[@LittleLulubee]

@@Valentina-wd4wt When in doubt, throw it out 😂

[@GeorgeAC]

If in doubt, pull out 🤣🤣

[@SEVIIN67]

My Darwin Senses are tingling!

[@emack4371]

Facts

[@monicapushkin3274]

It is amazing that this thing worked at all. People do not appreciate the magnitude of the water pressure at those depths. There is zero tolerance for error.

[@borismedved835]

This would have been its 21st successful visit to Titanic.

[@cluesfn4855]

@@borismedved835no it was only its 3rd

[@edp3202]

​@@borismedved835miracle it made it 20 times

[@ABirdOnTheMoon]

The problem is they never operated using a controller before then that somehow got disconnected and the speed and direction of their sinking was up to the ocean waves. That’s how they suspect the incident to happen. Also, without certification, maintenance could be slacked on and as far as the controller system, it was a new update that was not tested before at that depth.

[@BillSikes.]

Personally I think it was safe for the first few dives but the enormous pressure repeatedly exerted on its hull finally overcame the integrity of the carbon fibre

[@joeg4707]

This was insane. Anyone with an engineering background, or sense, knew it imploded Sunday at 9:45am when they lost communication with the surface and the implosion sound was picked up.

[@skriabinfly]

In an interview last year, the designer of the "Titan" submersible stated that he believed it was invulnerable. The interviewer commented that the same was said about the Titanic. Sad irony.

[@seriejohnson698]

He was in a small can and he thought it was invulnerable to the vast ocean. Okay, make it make sense.

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

​@@seriejohnson698they don't even use the aeroplane skeleton structure or any skeleton structure at all It's just a tube, at least the tube shape is the most durable shape to be used for this purpose besides a sphere

[@judylittle5285]

Hubris

[@jamesdick2580]

just like how James Cameron said...¨that´s why they dont make submarines out of carbon fiber materials. that´s why they use steel or titanium¨

[@anuugoo]

He may be the luckiest man on earth right now, he literally saved himself

[@WHaaaTT]

​@iiNanaskyok whatever

[@Your_pixels_are_showing]

And the 19 year old is the unluckiest. Rest his soul.

[@randomname5646]

He set them up, not luck. It was all planned

[@Wandering_Trainer]

​@iiNanaskysome people risk it even with knowledge or going agaisnt their own gut feeling

[@BobaDavis]

That's not luck, he just used his brain - he asked questions and didn't like the answers he got.

[@arkman117]

The sad irony of a submersible failing because management ignored safety concerns about the vehicle design, whilst attempting to explore a shipwreck, in which the ship wrecked, because management ignored safety concerns about the vehicle design. Hopefully future companies finally learn and we don’t need a third set of deaths. Rest in peace, so sorry for the families.

[@Asya008]

perhaps in 2100

[@carolannchaytor1294]

This really pulls at the heart strings. I was thinking the same 😔The ill faith of the Titanic was due to human negligence and delusion....unfortunately and ironically....the same for Titan 😔 I can't and will not be able to fathom what it was like for those five people....such an unfortunate tragedy. No amount of money is worth this...in my opinion. Like other burial sites and memorials....the Titanic deserves to be respected. My heartfelt thoughts are with the families and friends🙏 Still hoping for a miracle.

[@houndmother2398]

Touche.

[@PeterHonig.]

There is a world of difference between projects run by research scientists vs businessmen. The former wants things to be done right, while the latter wants things to be done quickly with minimum expenditures.

[@grenouillesupreme]

So the submarine is inside the titanic's wreck ? Woah imagine in a hundred years people will explore the wreck of titan inside titanic

[@isabelgeddeshines4059]

My dad was an aeronautical engineer for 40 years. He knew by the materials combined it wouldn't handle the pressure and would weaken with every dive and eventually weaken and implode

[@terrylee773]

@@achatsgpr3294not you said old white guys to engineer 😂

[@jamiejazzy]

Fatigue is what it is called…you load and unload a structure…fatigue takes place. Not that long ago this craft would have been subjected to testing for fatigue over many cycles….engineering shortcuts are foolhardy and the results are catastrophic failure of vital,load bearing structures. Very avoidable🤔

[@DPRKSupremeLeaderKim]

Yea so did everyone else who knows anything about layered composite material that experiences massive pressure changes....Nothing special

[@Gabosh8]

@@DPRKSupremeLeaderKim Too bad none of those people stopped the submarine.

[@DPRKSupremeLeaderKim]

@Gabosh8 Wow you sure are unperceptive lmao

[@nodiggity8497]

I just feel bad for the kid that got dragged into this mission by his dad... my heart is with his mother... this is going to shatter the entire earth beneath her feet... prayers up for her.

[@ann2456]

Yes, horrible to take onboard a 19 year old, should have been a agelimit at 60 years or something

[@pinstripedynasty6117]

Dragged in? Did you actually hear that is what happened anywhere or are you just assuming that is how it happened? I have not been following about why they are on it but he may have been excited and asking his father to go and looking forward to an adventure and experience like that. Especially for a kid imagine going back to college or your home and telling your friends and people about that

[@FaithfulandTrue777]

​@pinstripedynasty6117 yep... what a tale to tell - pride goes before destruction. Its sad that this man on the video was the only voice of wisdom grounded in reality and humbly declined.

[@billybatts9491]

That mother dodged two bullets. She should go breed with a man that chops wood and builds stuff that works.

[@j.a.3138]

dragged? he agreed to it you duffus

[@blatherskite3009]

Gotta admit, considering the expense of the tickets (a quarter-mill each) I was blown away by how cheap and amateurish the operation seemed to be. When the first reports came in that contact had been lost, it didn't seem to make sense that they had no idea where the sub even _was_ when it happened. You'd think a million bucks would get you a separate ROV to follow and track the sub...

[@katyp.2495]

My son-in-law said the kids in his class at school had said it looked like it had been cobbled together from odd bits of, and spare parts of whatever they could find!

[@ajpope2010]

"I was blown away by how cheap and amateurish the operation seemed to be". So were the passengers :)

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

​@@ajpope2010Ba dum tish!

[@henryrollins9177]

Not even a ROV is needed just a steel cable to pull it out if they dont communicate for x amount of time.

[@chatteyj]

Seeing as they were diving to the Titanic from directly above it seems amateurish and didn't make any sense to me that rescue services didn't know where the sub was or where to look. The fact that the sub wreck was found 500 metres from the Titanic wreck confirms it was where most people with functioning brain cells suspected it would be.

[@littlepows1538]

Fair play to you brother I’m glad you made the best decision of your life !!!

[@awesomesauce3110]

Why did he not report it?! Shameful

[@margaretgill4330]

​@@awesomesauce3110who says anyone would have done anything about it???🤷

[@paulfrost8952]

@@awesomesauce3110an employee had already reported his concerns, some 5 years earlier and he got sacked and it went to court as records show!

[@kgraham5820]

Now that we know the ending, I’m just glad it was a quick one. Beats the hell outta waiting for rescue, knowing their air supply could run out before anyone could find them. Condolences to all the families involved, I’m so sorry for their losses.

[@solarwinds5164]

Agreed, I can't imagine being trapped in there for days, unable to open the hatch, with the oxygen running out (and no toilet in there either btw) - the absolute panic that would have probably seized the passengers....it is a mercy that it went so quick.

[@mikegike7273]

Yup. Russian Sub Kursk. How horrible that must have been knowing what is waiting for you.

[@jj3710]

He brings up some really important points about the potentials failings of the sub. Very sad for all those involved.

[@jebaited05]

not really they paid 250k and signed all the papers that mentioned death throught and all the risks. Their problems they took the risks

[@noramartin96]

There was a young chap of 19 on board .Please do not be so hateful

[@jj3710]

@@noramartin96 I completely agree with you. Bad decisions such as this are very sad and regretful. They all have families that are distraught over this.

[@maryellenyarusso7029]

@@jebaited05 The man who pulled out at the last minute notice all the red flags the other didn't

[@lindajohnson7675]

​@@noramartin96he didn't want to go. He was scared. But, his dad pushed him to go. So, he went to please his dad. The young man does not count as one who ignored COMMUNICATION N SENSE!

[@TremelJackson]

The game controller was the icing on the cake for me, if the submarine failing all the safey protocol wasn't enough for everyone to back out then the Xbox controller should have been the saving grace for someone to question exactly wtf is wrong with the person who engineered it

[@hardcoretam]

Lots of submersible vehicles use game controllers to operate them. Pretty common. It was a PC controller as well

[@Robot256k]

Yeah if I'm getting in a submarine going to the Titanic it better have like 500 dials and buttons with a full on interface operated by at least 2 fully qualified submarine commanders. Not some rich CEO with a Logitech PS4 controller & a few levers to drop weight from the sub to help it resurface. It's literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Its like something you would hear that one friend say when you were a kid about how he build a time machine in the back garden & you go round and he's got a few old radios wired up to his dad's rusty old car that hasn't been used for years.

[@Dantheman87]

Yeah bro but the US and UK navy use gamepads. That's not the strange part.

[@hardcoretam]

@@Robot256k It's not a submarine though. It's a submersible. It's also not PS4 controller. It's a PC controller and very common now to use them on both Submarines and Submerisbles

[@an0970]

Bro if it was a damn Xbox controller they would have made it, it’s not a damn Xbox controller it’s LOGITECH ok man get it right.

[@organicprincecharming]

I watched a lot of interviews. This one made me feel for them, incredibly

[@adrianlouw2499]

What is the guy's name and why didn't they put it on the screen as is standard practise?

[@jebaited05]

feel for them? they paid 250k to go on it signed all the paper mentioning death adn the risk. Its their problem

[@bobjames6622]

@@adrianlouw2499 Adolf Stalin

[@bellasomerset9628]

@@adrianlouw2499 explorer Chris Brown

[@seriejohnson698]

@@jebaited05Ditto. They were selfish and didn’t think of their families or the people’s lives whom could have been lost looking for them. This did not have to happen, if they gave 2 shits about their lives or their loved ones. The other dude just wanted fame and fortune.

[@Bagels4eva135]

The youngest being afraid to go down and going down anyway is a huge lesson to other young adults in listening and trusting to your gut.

[@fu4616]

As a former Navy submariner, I know they at least did not suffer. Death was instantaneous. RIP 😢

[@giulia2098]

Oh finally someone in navy. In these two days I kept thinking, the u.s beast submarines can not even think to go that deep, how this little toy can reach Titanic depth?!?! And how this did not happen in the previous 2 times?!

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

if they ran out of air and suffocated, that isnt instantaneous

[@warrick7689]

​@@giulia2098I've heard the window is only rated for 4000 feet too

[@Pumpkins.4U]

@@warrick7689it wasn’t even rated at that, he refused the upgrade according to what I read.

[@JaContex]

@@xXxSkyViperxXxIt imploded before they ran out of air

[@James-ip5gz]

The sub has 7 ways to get to the surface in case of an emergency but once at the surface, it's impossible to open the sub from the interior to replenish oxygen supply. Are you kidding me?

[@elaine1962]

Unfrickingbelieveable huh?!

[@GallowayJesse]

It imploded regardless

[@neeketjha]

And if they get to the surface, it will be like an oven or maybe some temperature thing cuz it's like a steel container, Idk what material they use in making, why would anyone spend money on this it is so dangerous 😐

[@nancymilawski1048]

​@@neeketjhait's not steel, it's carbon fiber.

[@chatteyj]

@@GallowayJesse lets hope so for their sakes

[@CryptoMiningTurtle]

Sign this man up for the most responsible human on this planet….

[@adrianlouw2499]

What's his name I missed it in the report?

[@ayasinx8797]

The most confusing part for me is that the CEO is the one who boarded. Like... Did he have an actual death wish or was he delusional enough to think that his sub was actually safe enough.

[@philip-at-tube]

He must have had a lot of self-belief, I guess.

[@Vic-v1m]

he wasnt inside that tiny plastic deathtrap, no realtime footage anywhere showing them climbing into that tub..

[@tonycook1624]

@@Vic-v1m Here we go .... twat time

[@Jimmymatthewb]

@@Vic-v1mhe was in it. The man is dead. You really need video footage of everything? They’re dead, no one will ever see them again as of that day. That’s all you need to know.

[@alanfrancis9225]

It seems strange that all vehicles, cars, planes, ships, spaceships have to pass specific tests to be journey worthy. But this sub had no such certification and was allowed to carry on. Crazy.

[@Kevin.valdes7]

They made that decision upon themselves to go for the dive wym was allowed too ?

[@michaelina84921]

Because they were in international waters. No regulation there

[@demef758]

They all happily signed papers saying it was experimental and could die in it. People sign such contracts all the time thinking "I am immortal, I cannot die." What could possibly go wrong diving down to 4,000m in an experimental tub like this?

[@pear-zq1uj]

Natural selection

[@freshtapcoke]

No, not all.

[@janetclaireSays]

What I find upsetting about the shoddiness of this craft isn't so much that these people took a risk going down there in it, but that the recovery and rescue workers were put in danger and it cost a fortune to carry out, all because of their irresponsibility using an unsafe craft. I don't think the cousin of Hamish Harding should be complaining that they didn't get there fast enough. And now we even know that this happened on their way down and was instantaneous, so getting to it any faster wouldn't have mattered anyway.

[@kin3249]

​@@1newme425loss of communication is when it happened by the looks of it

[@t0nkyt0ner]

False, no one risked their lives in rescue or recovery you mong

[@t0nkyt0ner]

@janetclaire5691 you should really educate yourself before leaving silly comments

[@alexdavies7112]

@@t0nkyt0ner your comment is meaningless

[@briansteele5049]

​@@t0nkyt0nertake your own advice bub

[@wilo.2216]

Very catchy subtitle he pulled out at the last minute. When in fact, he back out in 2018. For being super analytical and that saved his life. I bet his opinions will be respected more than not in the coming future.

[@shriyakotra]

The similarities b/w the titanic and titan is that on titanic the captain was constantly warned about the iceberg but he brushed it off and moved in full speed towards the iced field and here on titan the sub pilot was constantly being reminded of the plausible dangers and several red flags that were seen on this sub, both of them didn't pay heed to the warnings and hence the result!! my heart goes out to all of those innocent lives lost! Rest easy 🙏

[@lukequigley121]

LOVE of money controled him

[@1polyron1]

This man's pull out game is on another level

[@adrianlouw2499]

History ought to know his name, right?

[@monicafiore20]

He's talking about a trip from 2018, not this trip

[@chrisw7188]

this man must feel like he just won the lottery

[@Dantheman87]

What about the people that have actually been on trips down in it, you'd feel like that x 100

[@adrianlouw2499]

Seriously! Who is this man anyway?

[@trace891]

@@Dantheman87this was only its 3rd trip down to the titanic. The whistle blower that was fired from the company said, the sub can’t handle multiple trips. Rip to the 5 souls 😢 😇

[@gooks]

if you can afford the trip, a lottery win is small change. That's like saying this man must feel like he has found a penny.

[@DavidTMSN]

One of the greatest of all time clutch last minute decisions in human history.

[@adrianlouw2499]

Too bad they didn't mention his name...

[@justinholland9844]

I still can't fathom why anyone would go down there.

[@Kittynation589]

Dude's pull out game is strong

[@BeatPoet67]

He's talking about 2018 - not this trip.

[@DavidTMSN]

@@BeatPoet67 It doesn't matter when...that catastrophe could happen at any time. How the other four victims got convinced to go down there is beyond me. Any trip in that Rush fellow's DIY submersible is a disaster waiting to happen.

[@bodhiswayze1892]

Thank you for your Frank and honest opinion Sir. You (among many other people) pointed out these problems and yet nothing was done & now people have paid the ultimate price. It was so avoidable, & so desperately sad.

[@neanderal8013]

I'm glad the owner was on board he can see what he created

[@badlink7776]

I cant be glad for that. He should have been stopped. Seems like a lot of periode knew something was not right. I cant even tale a jolly ride in my boat, or drive to fast. But somehow this dude/company could do what they wanted.

[@SneakymanTim]

Don't think he's seeing much anymore

[@wreklesstv3230]

@@badlink7776 International waters is why he could create such a contraption

[@ronschaefermd]

Well that showed he had confidence in his sub, otherwise he wouldnt have gotten on it himself.

[@herrwahnsinn4229]

@@badlink7776 Because rich.

[@Richiesrant]

Even without this tragedy happening, I never would have set foot inside of that tin can

[@Xychal]

I remember hearing they fired a man who warned the people that the machine was not safe. He literally just warned them and look what just happened.

[@reneedennis2011]

Yup.

[@capdatzme19]

This guy truly went by what he learned and his gut feeling which I do respect. He wasn't ego, thrill seeking or taking it lightly on his rightful choice and decision out of this tragic expedition. The Lord also helped him in clarity and common sense. 🙏🕊

[@shortfilmtrending]

Unfortunately you have already heard the news, havent u?

[@davidc9135]

There is risk getting out of bed if you're climbing into a shoddy submarine

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

He never needed to go by a gut feeling. His years of expertise and seeing the red flags as signs to stay clear were as evident as all of the red flags presented but ignored on April 14, 1912.

[@nealdee1755]

The Lord did not help the others?

[@homoerot03]

yes, the lord helped him. the lord.

[@LasVegas68]

When the CEO says he took risks and refused to have his submersible inspected by outside sources, that should have been a red flag right there! Basically he was wanting a quick return on his investment into building the vehicle.

[@jessicadunham9472]

Yes the whole thing is very “shoddy” as well as with the actual titancic. I watched a documentary of the titanic on KZbin a while ago about “what really happened to the titanic” It was a big money scandal in the end. It’s all very eye opening and at the heart of it all, pride which sank them all to fall to the deepest depths of the ocean. Definitely a message to us all in learning what’s really important! Not wealth or an easy buck. If we happen to make money while being responsible and doing the jobs we love is one thing but seeking wealth for wealths sake is a dangerous endeavor.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

It was to numerous people, including the man in this interview.

[@sarahg1583]

Tragic all around. Brings back memories an offshore oil-rig that went down in the 80s where a friend of mine backed out at the last minute. He had worked on these rigs for years (1 month on, 1 month off) & they asked him to work on his month off. He claimed there were compartments where the workers could gather & have enough air supply for days, but unfortunately the powers that be deemed a rescue "too dangerous" & they were just left to die. Ps. He quit the rigs after this tragedy.

[@belindarogers3889]

Oh my! So sad and horrific for those those poor people 😔😢. So fortunate that your friend backed out.

[@The9ninebar]

Piper Alpha disaster?

[@54stevemac]

Yeah but they were regulated...

[@ATFisGay]

Ocean ranger?

[@chatteyj]

@@The9ninebar Think it was the little known one before that one maybe

[@TheBookloverforever]

The best pullout game in history

[@j123eue]

Better than lebron james

[@MarkAmbalong]

omfg

[@adrianlouw2499]

And we'll never know his name...

[@ittybittytittiecomminty]

@@jjj9rf you too? me too hahaha

[@terratrodder]

A friend of mine works out at the gym with some old rich guy who's part of some explorer's club and was one of the original people picked to be on that sub with his son. He got some form of Covid earlier in the year and had to pull out, his son was going to continue with it but had some family issue and had to withdrawal also. Sad situation but lucky for them.

[@barrywilson3643]

It's just unreal how certain people you would expect to be reasonable could risk their lives getting into a miniature submersible "contraption" with no real safety measurements if something was to go wrong.

[@LesFleursduChamp]

I had wondered the same. However, then I remembered how seasoned businessmen and investors (including even the CEO of Forbes) so readily fell under the spell of the “inspirational” (and since discredited) Elizabeth Holmes. I then saw how wishful thinking can overtake even some of the most otherwise sound-thinking and practical of people.

[@WalterModel45]

@@LesFleursduChamp those are the same that died in the everest in the 90s

[@catherinewylie6959]

Wasn't there some book written about basically smart people doing really dumb things? I think there are a few. Just looking at this thing and considering where it's going puts me off.

[@4GreaterWorldPeace]

Too much money can make people feel invincible.

[@noedgelines9565]

Hubris.

[@dh7314]

The ultimate “told you so”. He’ll be telling this story for the rest of his life

[@dh7314]

@alexarthur9088 no. He was going to travel in 2018, he was 5 years before the event. Hardly a lucky escape

[@aquamanGR]

Disturbing and plain old crazy! From the description of this man, I am shocked that anyone would get in that thing! How did they not see the huge risk.....

[@adrianlouw2499]

What is the name of "this man" and why didn't they include it in the video? Please answer me.

[@tubester4567]

Those people are toast.

[@Stephaniemickle]

@@adrianlouw2499the owner of ocean gate. They’re gone, it’s a tragedy at this point. But it wasn’t risk, or bad luck, it was pure stupidity and overzealous behavior from rich morons. A shame that 4 other people died from this one man’s ‘genius tourist attraction’

[@heveyweightheveyweight5399]

Blind faith

[@forbandkind09]

​@@tubester4567Or rather frozen bread.

[@annmarie-h8l]

It blows my mind that the owner would not heed all the safety warnings from others. I was a scuba diver for several years and the ocean can be a very cruel mistress. I wouldnt have stepped foot in that vessel...it was so shoddy looking. R. I. P.😢

[@SOLDOZER]

You're just weak.

[@MrLuffy9131]

and even locked from outside. hell even if that thing survived and rose to the surface you might not find it for days and there's no emergency boat either and potentially no oxygen lol

[@annmarie-h8l]

@@MrLuffy9131 I would love to board a safe vessel to explore those depths. But it sounds pricey😁

[@funnycalculator3274]

I wouldn't get into a room that can't be opened from the inside, but some rich guys decided to spend $250k to get into a tank that can't be opened from the inside.Just to pay visit to graveyard. Wow, humans are something else

[@halo20678]

Yea we are

[@robvange]

remember the horrific APOLLO fire tragedy????? that door was CLOSED from the inside...making quick egress difficult.... this IS entirely different BUT, that came to my mind.... THESE (now dead) people were EXTREMELY FOOLISH to do this...and to think that at least 2 of them could have afforded to actually have their own!!!

[@margotrobbie8582]

@@robvangewhy different they were both closed from the inside

[@LeeONardo]

My general rule for life - Never underestimate the power of stupid, it can occur with anyone at anytime.

[@jettser17UK]

That guy truly has common sense (logical reasoning) ingrained in him! This special attribute literally saved his own life!

[@dutchman063]

He's an old White guy, common sense comes natural for him and it saved his life

[@eo0-g9j]

Unlike the stupid wealthy men

[@eo0-g9j]

@@dutchman063the people in the submarine were white and old though

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

​@@eo0-g9jhe is referring to the head of the project, who claimed there are too many 50 year old white guys in engineering and wanting to change it

[@jettser17UK]

@@dutchman063 Why would age and/or ethnicity be a measure anyway?! Bear in mind that's 4 OLD experienced/educated guys who lacked in that attribute white or not. But I kinda know what you mean.

[@jordangoldberg5292]

The Titanic is the grave to 1500 people. Maybe this is a warning to leave it alone. Let them Rest In Peace

[@jamesfrench7299]

The fact he fired an engineer who showed integrity and spoke about his concerns was a scandal in it's own right. Going so deep is not child's play.

[@taurus_7]

This is a recovery mission. It never was really a rescue mission ☹️

[@j123eue]

Facts

[@BobaDavis]

It was never a rescue mission - it was a recovery mission, with the glimmer of hope that it could become something more. Retrieval of objects at that depth isn't something we can really do.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

​@@BobaDaviswe can, not in 3 days ofcourse

[@BobaDavis]

@@vipvip-tf9rw No, we can't. We don't actually have many things that can retrieve something from the floor bottom so for something like human retrieval, this would be a first attempt. The fact is that this venture never should have been a thing, to even have to figure out.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

@@BobaDavis c2 was salvaged at 18500 feet

[@techtinkerin]

More people should pull out at the last minute

[@chewbaca6971]

😂😂😂

[@oldguycamping63]

so true lol

[@Corey300]

Hot 😂

[@chrissylovable9680]

😂😂

[@AthleticEducation]

I guess it’s better than waiting the last second

[@jeremyjames1280]

The front viewing port was rated to 1500 meters... The owners of the sub trusted it to 4000M. Criminal decisions.

[@margotrobbie8582]

How did they see then?

[@TheWildPikey]

​@@margotrobbie8582Through the front viewing port 🤷🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[@dead_on_departure]

@@margotrobbie8582 Oh. My. Goodness. 😏

[@pngpacific2023]

If someone asks this guy in future, what was the best decision you have taken in your life time, he would without a doubt say, "deciding not to take the dive down with the titan submarine." RIP to those who lost their lives...

[@Ponderosa518]

This should never have happened. So glad you are still with us.

[@FrankandCents28]

Classic example of listening to your gut, and why you should never ignore it.

[@briancooper4959]

This is an example of the kind of tragedy that can happen when people are playing with untested and uncertified equipment in an unregulated environment. My wife and I once took a tourist sub ride off Cozumel, Mexico several years ago. Was it properly regulated? I don't know, but the maximum depth we went to was only 115 feet. Technologically, that's a far cry from 12,500 feet.

[@gorkyd7912]

Testing, certification and regulation only go so far. There has to be a culture of safety. Safety has to be the priority. If not, no degree of certification and regulation will change anything. The regulators don't care if you die, they just don't want to be blamed for it.

[@bmuseo]

​​@@gorkyd7912gree. Regulations are for safety, but more often than not, they just increase the bill and don't actually solve the problem. AKA the government....lots of regulations, lots of associated costs, but we are still going to hell in a handbasket because the regulations are not actually helping.

[@horseshoe182]

@@bmuseo your comparing apples to oranges, and you don,t know what your talking about.

[@opentrunk]

I once took a ride on a hotel elevator in Mexico which stopped between 2 floors and then the doors opened and the cables felt like they were going to snap. So would I take a sub ride in Mexico? No chance.

[@bojangifier]

Wife and I took the same one, great experience but hate how they kept making death jokes

[@freemindthinkerezrapound5071]

Considering how shoddy it was its poses the question what kind of personal advisers do billionaires hire and the total insanity of wanting to go there in the first place is unbelievable

[@ronazar4008]

I’m shocked they didn’t have gps or a tracking device

[@Benji__]

Even if they did bro it’s no signal how is a gps gonna work

[@justsain3236]

no need, money more important.

[@milkyywayyyy259]

GPS doesn't work underwater

[@MeEncantaKiley]

Even divers have a personal locating beacon!

[@xoPROLIFIC]

I believe it lost its comms and that is where the problems started..

[@Stardusted1]

I’ve been angry about this disaster since it happened. Why would these rich guys pay that amount to go on some rinkydink contraption that’s not certified? Thank goodness this guy did his research and decided the risks were too high. Who the heck wouldn’t? And this tiny little tube with all those precious souls is gone now. Let’s all pray for them and their families.

[@sitsia3808]

Ye..

[@cultfiction3865]

They’ve all got themselves in deep water. Excuse the pun

[@lakesuperiorgirl17]

They knew the risks

[@davidgray8089]

Don't know the people involved but this is the net so we are free to speculate and pretend it is factual. Say you were born rich and so were insulated from taking responsibility for any of your actions that normal people would have to deal with. You would have a skewed view of both the real world and of risks in general and so might be willing to take risks that you shouldn't take.

[@billanderson9096]

A fool and his money will get you killed.

[@mikejorsch304]

He saved his life

[@adrianlouw2499]

Who is he?

[@mikejorsch304]

The first navigator they hired he quit before the voyage

[@purejoy1985]

I always thought sub vessels were connected and lowed into the ocean by a ship that also would pull them up in an emergency situation. I had no idea these things went solo that deep. As soon as I saw the Playstation like controller, instantly worry hit me wondering if it was built to withstand the type of mission they were trying to do. This whole thing is so sad and am happy to know they didnt suffer in the way I thought they would in that hellish nightmare lost at sea.

[@markusr1308]

Not always, at some point the cable becomes too heavy. And in this case a cable would not have prevented the implosion.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Yes there should have been an umbilical cord attached to that thing. It may not have saved them but at least they would've been aware of its location when disaster struck.

[@Girlbenatural]

The crazy thing is nobody ask the CEO-when was the last time the sub was updated.? When was the last time they reinforced the pressure chamber?

[@rejuvenatingsoul3498]

​​​@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504"umbilical" cord would've swayed with ocean currents so much the sub would be unsteerable. The only sort of thing closer to an "umbilical" cord is ship anchors, and they only go 100-250 feet down. The titanic wreckage is 12500 feet below. it would be a disaster to attach that tiny sub to a 15000 - 18000 feet cord.

[@Garymasonbrooks]

Everyone was aware of the risk. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. Condolences to those who lost loved ones. This will help improve future exploration.

[@powerofGod788]

Sadly it will serve it's purpose and save more people.

the risk shouldn't be there. Redundancy and certification are the two most important things

[@Brianuwu622]

who cares

[@mrpeace3860]

Of course, there are risks. But the design is/was so bad, that there shouldn't be any way to sell tours with that thing. There were parts that weren't built for that kind of depth and so on. Getting people into that thing, that might not be fully aware of that, is just careless and IN MY OPINION a criminal act.

[@ConcernedCitizen-fx7du]

Actually this should be a deterrent for those who want to continue to rest the waters

[@marissanicole7220]

A debris field has been located. If the Titan imploded, death was likely instant for those on board. It blows my mind that the certification and testing was even optional. After this, hopefully it is made mandatory.

[@darrena7695]

or if it was little jets of water slicing you apart first maybe not.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

By whom?

[@Jamie-bg3zb]

@@vipvip-tf9rwby the people searching the sea floor lol i.e coast guard

[@Tylerpierre99]

Doubtful that jets of water harmed anyone. The wreckage would seemcto imply it imploded suddenly. If the sub slow leaked, then the sub would probably have remained mainly intact as pressure equalised.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

@@Jamie-bg3zb they can't project their authority to foreign country

[@zlk718]

The people who boarded this are crazy, can you imagine being inside this thing and having it bolted shut from the outside then sunk to the bottom of the ocean. They were buried alive.

[@ajpope2010]

They were quite literally blown to pieces. After doing some digging on what actually takes place during a deep water implosion i quickly realized there are only small pieces left of actual flesh and bone which is why the people giving interview from the rescue effort tiptoe around the question of recovering the bodies. Its one thing to be slowly lowered to deep depths where lungs get crushed and what not but an implosion or "rapid decompression" is literally an explosion backwards where water moving in to fill the void at thousands of feet per second shreds anything in its path. Even the debris scene is only the chunky solid metal parts of the sub. There are no bodies to recover.

[@honeyclover5038]

@@ajpope2010 well said.

[@Vic-v1m]

if they were on board at all, its a mystery...

[@tellall23]

@@Vic-v1m do you think UFOs from Mars in collaboration with the Russians kidnapped them?

[@tonycook1624]

@@Vic-v1m Stop trolling - or being stupid - which ever it is

[@careerwelder84]

Everyone that "pulled out" and still let it go are equally responsible for the tragedy that happened.

[@B00GH0STIE]

Do you think them speaking about anything would have stopped them from still attempting to use the sub?

[@careerwelder84]

@@B00GH0STIE this story should of been a 1 day story but the news and everyone is dragging it on for a week when we all knew day 1 is was over. Thats also sickening that its being dragged on as much as it has

[@NigelRudyard]

Words you don’t want to hear in association with a sub bound for the ocean bed: “shoddy”. Ditto “snagging hazard” and “refused to get any certification.”

[@AramasG]

Level headed people wouldn’t have got on that disaster. Absolute insanity.

[@seriejohnson698]

💯

[@gsxr419]

I worked at a company that had a large explosion that eventually killed 7 co-workers. I almost bid on the opposite shift job and decided last minute not to. The guy that did died. Chance I wouldn't have but one never knows. Still thankful.

[@nankyajoannah7052]

I naturally fear water. I can't even step in a Swimming pool.

[@ashbash635]

That submarine was an accident waiting to happen. a games console pad used to control it? Lights that are diy? What a disgrace. It’s terrible that they were able to sell this like a tourist package. The only people there should be research staff or doctors the rest should leave the titanic be. Many people lost their lives and now new people will be added to that list. Which was completely preventable. I’m praying for them. 🙏🏻💖

[@goplanit]

@ashbash635 It wasn't an accident, it was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, the delusional arrogance of the builder/owner is what caused it, the ball is firmly in his court.

[@laurikotivuori1585]

The US navy uses Xbox & PlayStation controllers too that's not an issue

[@TheNBAfan101]

This company has no business going into the ocean. It’s become abundantly clear that the negligence of this company is the reason why we’re in this situation now.

[@SamuelBlack84]

It's honestly terrifying how close you can be to death through so many ways. One minute you're here, the next moment...nothingness

[@WalterModel45]

I mean They didnt have a heart attack crosing the streat

[@Mr.E.Diablo-xn8jm]

How do you know? Nothingness would put the second law of thermodynamics into question.

[@lindsey9728]

You can minimize those risks by avoiding using products and vehicles from companies who proclaim things like, "safety is for chumps" or "I know better than the experts" or "regulations stop innovation". You can't do anything about meteors falling on your head, but idiot CEOs are easier to avoid. On an entirely separate subject, don't get into a Tesla.

[@AllSetWithLife83]

Everything in existence hangs by a thread.

[@chriskelly9476]

Mind boggling that people would sign a waiver and climb on board despite all this.

[@awaizmehmood5418]

We can't imagine their pain. 😢

[@8JFJK8]

They have been dead for a while now.

[@Jahnyboy]

@@8JFJK8 So incredibly sad

[@tayler2148]

Put a plastic bag over your head😅😅😅

[@phil4986]

They didn't feel a thing. It was so fast they entered Heaven instantly.

[@Jahnyboy]

@@phil4986 True if it cracked open the water pressure would instantly rupture everyone, they've said it's about 370x the normal atmospheric pressure.

[@Xraydelta14sector2]

Smart man , you made the right decision. I hope people think like you do and not let others talk them into getting into a dangerous situation. 🥇👍

[@globalismoblackman]

What an AVOIDABLE tragedy of epic proportions 😢. How on earth could the CEO of the Titan submersible knowingly risk this machine that was not certified and not fit for purpose sent on a precarious voyage of 'adventure' I will NEVER understand. This was a tragic adventure that was doomed to fail from the outset.

[@grenouillesupreme]

The irony is that the titanic sank for the same reason, it was unsinkable but a fire wakened it a few days before the tragedy and the owner knew this but didn't care, it's really history repeating itself

[@unf3z4nt]

The Titanic was ironically up to code at the time; just the standards were inadequate. In this case, regulations and common sense were being flouted. It wasn't even certified. Unless they don't mind being turned to pressure tenderized mincemeat, nobody with the right mind would have got into that brittle tube of carbon fibre even of they were paid handsomely for the risk.

[@tobiathon80]

Look at his recruitment policy.

[@habiebiee1]

You did the right thing. You dont feel comfortable, you pull out. That's nothing wrong with pulling out.

[@Mr-Safology]

The titanic is cursed. Let's not go anywhere near it again. May the passengers rest in peace. 🤲🏼

[@AserGaming]

This Titan tragedy is kind of scary, those people were definitely obsessed with Titanic, I mean why else would they pay 250 thousand dollars per person? They were obsessed with Titanic and its books and stories, and their fate was to be part of its ruins… in real life…

[@Yasi_nzi]

Well not exactly. They were worth 1 billion dollars so 250k for a special trip like that isn’t such a big deal for them!

[@Thrashman-ye4cf]

@@Yasi_nzifor real. A 250k trip to a billionaire is the equivalent to the average Joe going on a cruise with his family.

[@KrystyneY]

I am fascinated with every aspect of the titanic, but I would never get in one of those subs to see it

[@mikef8846]

$250k is actually too cheap for this. That is why it's shoddy. Really to do trips like this safely, the sub has to be single use. Really just a single trip, and then disposed of. They already have utilized single use subs to set records and then decommissioned them. That's how you avoid stress fractures from repeated use.

[@Iwta-b5n]

This guy cared about his safety

[@adrianlouw2499]

I wonder who this "guy" is, do you know?

[@tanzanos]

This is what happens when companies decide to self regulate rather than be regulated.

[@markgrundy6211]

It must be really awful for them is a bit of an understatement I would say. I can't even comprehend how they must feel being stuck in there

[@mr.goodcat582]

Who says they are stuck? The whole construction is so weak, they could have been crushed in a second.

[@EVEE_Rose-3]

BREAKING NEWS: They have located debris around the titanic wreckage. They are not stuck the Titan Submersible most likely Imploded. RIP.

[@n15london]

How sad

[@tonelloable]

@@EVEE_Rose-3 that implosion will generate a lot of power in that deep. And that thing called submersible will be defragmentate on the surface. So… i do not think about this scenario. Probably they get just lost, the ocean is constantly moving. Visibility is just few meters away. Is like you need to find a snow flake on the mountain

[@speakeazy6595]

They deserve it and it’s hilarious

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

So you're telling me a submersible that uses an Xbox Gamepad to pilot and has a viewing window only certified to 1300 meters (yet they dove to 4000 meters) wasn't built to a high standard. I'm shocked

[@markr6490]

Knock off xbox controller…

[@mr.e822]

The concept of using a game controller for control is honestly not concerning to me. It’s not something that’s unique to this particular device, and it has been implemented in some organizations that are MUCH more reliable (the US military has started using Xbox controllers for certain devices in an effort to reduce necessary training for sailors who likely have experience with such devices.) That being said, they were using a cheap knockoff controller (actually the same one I used to control for a robotic rover in one of my robotics classes), and it may not have been reliable. Despite that, however, it is in all likelihood not the controller that failed. And if they DID crash into the sea floor to cause the implosion, that could be user error, and it would still best be blamed on a lack of safety systems to prevent it, rather than the controller that the person was using to steer them that way.

[@kellywilson137]

Couldn't even fork out for the Xbox Elite controller SMH.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Imagine if he had "stick drift" and hit something. Oh man

[@borismedved835]

I get the impression that there are at least a few people who have no idea what the xbox controller does or doesn't do, and what half-dozen or fewer simple commands the sub's power and control systems would use. That part worked just fine on the sub's 20 previous visits to Titanic. The viewport is probably what failed.

[@lisaaromano1]

Praying for the families and the souls lost.

[@gaius_enceladus]

If what I've heard is true - that the head of the sub company fired anyone who raised concerns about the safety of the sub - then that tells you all you need to know about the company. I have a huge love of the sea (my father was in the Navy during WWII) and a huge amount of respect for it and what it can do. You *never* take shortcuts with anything to do with the sea. It will *always* "find you out" and have the last say.

[@joannaszulc2694]

😘😘😘😘😘🇵🇱

[@user-le3wb7ey6s]

Shame on the CEO for endangering the lives of everyone on board. #greed had something to do with it…I’m sure!

[@syd2001]

At least the CEO was punished by losing his own life in the same manner that he subjected his victims to.

[@user-le3wb7ey6s]

Absolutely 👆🏼

[@wlh52]

And now risking the lives of the rescue personnel.

[@tonyak4433]

​@@syd2001He doesn't obligate anyone. Each person knew about this situation and it was experimental. I had an interview with Stockton for being the pilot. Fortunately for other issues I was not able to continue with the process but he told me okay see me in a year. I talked with him and this was his dream, it was a visionary of course still there are many things to improve and being able to make this trips safe but that is the way. To go to the moon many people has died. At least again he told people all the risk and they decided to do it. I knew the risk and still I applied. Rest in peace!

[@user-le3wb7ey6s]

Tony, he knew Titan wasn’t 100% ready to roll. He definitely endangered all of them!

[@courtneydillon4905]

Man, saved his life with due diligence.

[@juice5435]

Of course it was shoddy. The CEO was cutting corners to save money and neglected safety and testing precautions. They all knew beforehand that this was a accident waiting to happen.

[@LionheartedDan]

“Information is power” - US Navy acoustic monitors captured the instant Titan imploded and yet they silently watched all week while a futile and frantic rescue operation went through all the motions of finding the fallen five.

[@johnson5725]

People saying oh he is so lucky. Breaking it down to you, he made a decision based on facts, that not luck , that’s expertise. Luck is something that you can’t explain so, this wasn’t luck at all.

[@cjtsn466]

I worked on tankers crossed oceans many many times.When there is a bad weather this giant tanker ship goes in and out of the ocean like a little coconut shell.I couldn’t take it and quit .It is dangerous and scary

[@Pedro76mchlkg]

Imagine how nuts it is to have a submarine controlled by a game pad. My new last generation game pad steered to left by itself.

[@Greeny_isthegoat]

haha and mine toggled around on its own

[@LeeONardo]

It's one thing to control it via game pad, I can actually see that being possible. But the fact it was wireless was suicidal, locked in a steel tube below the sea with no spares, no replaceable batteries ... seriously one cable could have possibly saved their lives instead of what happened (apparently the controls disconnected and the sub lost control, diving too fast). And the funny thing is wired pads are usually cheaper!

[@dave7830]

As more and more information comes out, it seems like everything from the design to procedures on this device was done half assed. It's amazing that it actually completed a couple dives with no catastrophic failure.

[@susanzzz2422]

My deepest condolences to all families who lost loved ones in this devastated tragedy. 🙏 🙏

[@justsayin5609]

It was hardly a tragedy. It was death by misadventure by amateurs. Completely avoidable.

[@cowpolk5763]

A stepson of one of the passengers went to a blink 182 concert this week. He said "Well he wouldnt want me to miss it"

[@royfr8136]

20 likes, well done

[@pnwdrifter5680]

An entrepreneur. Profits ahead of safety. I think in the next few hours we will see the end of this tragic tale. Its pretty much all over now, except the lawsuits.

[@mattr.1887]

Who's getting sued?

[@RockyRoadCreationsbyDiana]

Waivers

[@pnwdrifter5680]

@@mattr.1887 The sub company

[@pnwdrifter5680]

@@RockyRoadCreationsbyDiana waivers are worthless, if the signer was mislead. There is a pretty strong case that the safety was overstated.

[@sniferlip]

He isn't the only person who questioned getting into that sub, David Pogue was concerned with the crews attitude and the cavalierness of the journey from the head guy but he signed and went anyway, dreading it all the while. Just goes to prove that you should follow your gut. To hell with getting the television program their shot

[@he4ther1102]

Much love going out to the families and loved ones of the passengers lost. Tragic. My condolences.