Mist Coolant For The Mini Lathe

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Artisan Makes

Artisan Makes

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@rexmundi8154
@rexmundi8154 Жыл бұрын
You can daisy chain the new compressor to the tank on the old one and greatly increase your air reserve. Start up the noisy compressor when you won’t be around and bring it up to pressure then you have all that reserve air to keep the smaller compressor from coming on sooner.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i run a kern, 3 mazak millturns, 2 horizontals and some EDM machines off of a single 10 kw compressor with this trick My air tank is 5k liters at 16 bar and could probably be classified as a bomb though....
@dazaspc
@dazaspc Жыл бұрын
@@angrydragonslayer 230 psi on a 5000 liter tank would easily level a house if the tank ruptured. Air is cheap to compress up to about 70 psi, after that the energy required VS air volume grows rapidly and exponentially. I don't remember the exact chart as it changes between compressor styles but a conservative estimate would be the first 70 psi would be equal to the last 10 at 230 energy wise.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc yeah, it's not efficient but if i wanted an optimal compressor, i would need a new electrical circuit all the way from the 400kv lines and not only would that be stupidly expensive, it would also force me to shut off the machines for at least 3 weeks which is even more expensive (don't exactly have that many machines for a hobby)
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc oh, surely. Free air delivery is not the issue though. I could sustain each of these machines with a bicycle pump and a big enough tank. It's the burst that's the issue. I'm not going to be able to handle 300 l/m at 6 bar per machine for 15 sec if i change it like that.
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc Well, you won't be heard ... it's the internet. Specifications of the tank, the pump, the motor or established safety regulations ... just do not matter here. It's feelings and "innovations" and make-belief that is the guide. Just sad that often bystanders are also harmed ... and no insurance companies will pay for this kind of avoidable madness.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
I agree, you don't want to breathe in atomize oils. A great way of converting the mist into droplets, is to use one of those small clear cigarette filter tips. They don't contain an actual osmotic fiber filter. They work entirely through centrifugal action to concentrate the atomized tar from smoke into drops around the inner chamber. In you're case, it will form droplets which drips out of the chamber. The advantage is that they're shorter in length and more effective than a tube. They are very cheap and often sold in drug stores or on Amazon and sold under different brands.
@korisniktrenutnonijedostup4309
@korisniktrenutnonijedostup4309 Жыл бұрын
that is very well written comment. what is your profession?
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Жыл бұрын
Using a mist coolant system and turning the mist into a fluid is: remarkably stupid!:)
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
@@dieSpinnt Not nearly as stupid as breathing in oil into your lungs.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
@@dieSpinnt I think its more of leveraging air to move the coolant. This is not too different to a fogbuster mist less cooler, just a slightly different nozzle, and those are fantastic. Like I said in the video a different nozzle and we can change how the coolant flows, nothing crazy about that. Maybe could have used a pump but you sometimes have to throw ideas at the wall and see what works, sometimes you win sometimes you don't.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I like this idea
@michelecrown2426
@michelecrown2426 Жыл бұрын
Great project that accomplishes what you wanted. And I am so glad you gave a good explanation at the end of the dangers of mist cooling. Many people don’t know about that.
@hoggif
@hoggif Жыл бұрын
If you use airbrush as mister, you can always remove valve components to get it fully on. You can also loosen the nut clamping the needle and pull it back as much as you want to adjust amount of coolant. Having a needle not fully seated in the front nozzle is the way trigger also adjusts the amount of paint. I think the idea of using an airbrush is quite clever. Cheap ones are dirt cheap and you surely don´t need the max quality brush for just misting.
@TheMrAwax
@TheMrAwax Жыл бұрын
I was about to suggest exactly that instead of expoxying it.
@hoggif
@hoggif Жыл бұрын
@@TheMrAwax Pulling the needle back and clamping there also would allow to adjust it later. That would also make it possible to dissassemble, say for cleaning if it gets clogged by any reason. Air is of course on/off when the valve has been made to be open all the time.
@ricknelson6405
@ricknelson6405 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. Pull the needle back a bit and lock the nut so it stays in the open position, then remove the rubber O-rings in the air valve to keep the air flowing.
@TheMrAwax
@TheMrAwax Жыл бұрын
@@ricknelson6405 just fully remove the air valve
@sonovoxx
@sonovoxx Жыл бұрын
When I was an apprentice back in the 70s, we were taught to make the coolant ourselves - it was nothing more than engine oil, mixed with enough dish soap to emulsify it, then add water to thin it down.
@thylacine1962
@thylacine1962 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Cheers.
@taranson3057
@taranson3057 Жыл бұрын
You can also use a draw fan made for airbrushing, it just gets positioned behind the item you are working on and draws air along with mist into the replaceable filter in the housing. It’s like having a mini paint booth. I used an airbrush for many years for artwork that I did for friends who were into the slot car racing hobby. I almost forgot to mention that you can also pipe in a larger tank, like a portable air tank that you can put in your car to air up tires.
@Daniel_D_King
@Daniel_D_King Жыл бұрын
Really cool idea. If it were my project I would probably have made the reservoir longer. Say the height of the cabinet. And mounted it to the side of the bench with pvc gutter mounts. Quality of life improvements would include a fill port on the top so you don't have to unscrew the whole lid to refill and a level indicator. Just something simple like a 90 degree elbow top and bottom with a clear hose so you can see when it's getting low. And maybe a drain port for easy cleaning if the cutting fluid gets all stanky. Great idea tho man.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
A larger reservoir may require more CFMs or a higher PSI which demands more from the compressor, requiring it to kick on more often.
@Daniel_D_King
@Daniel_D_King Жыл бұрын
@Bob Weiram yea that's a valid point
@joshclark44
@joshclark44 Жыл бұрын
That's actually a super convenient idea for a small lathe setup like that!!
@originalmianos
@originalmianos Жыл бұрын
Love the Ozito Bunnings single use tool brand. What does my head in is the long warranties on such low quality stuff. If you live near Bunnings, and keep the receipt, it is like a magic pudding of new for old.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
They’re stuff can be real hit or miss but it has been a real staple of my workshops. I’ve heard mixed things about these compressors but a friend of mine has the exact one under a different brand name and hasn’t had many issues. Can’t beat the 3 year warranty on this though
@cocon16_PW
@cocon16_PW Жыл бұрын
I think that reservoir, being so neatly done and tight, after some coolant is used will obtain underpressurez forbidding more coolant to spray out. I reckon it will need some inlet hole for the air. I'm surprised how well this airbrush works as a mist coolant. Great idea!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
There is a vent hole, I think I just forgot to add it when I was editing in premiere. Ops
@208Concepts
@208Concepts Жыл бұрын
I was going to pop in and say something about a vent hole. Glad it just got left out of the video
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
If you look close in some shots it’s visible, albeit hard to see
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Gday, I’ve noticed a big difference since putting flood coolant on the lathe and also on the Cincinnati mill, tool life has increased a lot, your setup works well, I had mist coolant on the mill drill and wasn’t a fan of breathing it in at all, great job mate, cheers
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I remember watching your flood coolant video. If I had a bigger lathe I would have used your style of set up. Cheers
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 Жыл бұрын
Very clever - and far less mess than flood cooling; may rig this up for my bandsaw 👍🏻
@drivewaydragtrucks3772
@drivewaydragtrucks3772 Жыл бұрын
That hose to control the mist; genious! I have nearly the same setup, I'm going to add a hose to the nozzle. Thank you soo much!
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын
The mist cooling looked to be really effective. I reckon that I would go with that and an exhaust fan rather than flood cooling. A bunnings 4mm irrigation hose would do the job to turn the air on and off. They are rated to about 140psi which is way more than your compressor will create.
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher Жыл бұрын
My 15x72 Leblond Regal has a 3hp motor. This whole situation is bananas. And I support it.
@jeremylastname873
@jeremylastname873 Жыл бұрын
This is clever. Thank you kindly for sharing. The “WD” in WD-40 stands for “Water Displacing.”
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yes, so it will help remove the coolant. It also has rust inhibitors too
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff...I bet it does just a good a job as some of the commercial misters...just smaller, and since you are working with a mini lathe it's just the right size! Keep em coming!!!!
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss Жыл бұрын
I think i already commented on one of your previous vids, but you can use the cheapest atf oil as flood coolant and as mist coolant... Sure, its not as good at cooling, nor is atf an amazing lubricant either, but it can be bought en masse for cheap and its pure mineral oil with some detergents and antifoaming agents, making it a very good substance for any kind of machine cooling, and unlike water mixed oil, it has 0 bloody water in it, making it a great way to avoid ever thinking about rust forming under the vise or in such places... Atf also has an amazing derusting property, as well as pulling property, where it will suck out embedded bits of crud from stuff if left unattended... Sure, it will wash out the way oil, but you reapply way oil all the time anyways(i hope), and with guards and coolant routing on most machines, it generally doesnt have much access to way oil or the ways themselves... Its almost as viscous as water, which does help with any sort of pumping or sucking(mist systems), and it actually smells really nice when burned... A sweet caramelized sugar smell, which i dont even want to speculate on, safety wise, but it cant be worse than cutting oils which have all the warning labels on them, whereas the atf generally only has the environment/water pollution danger label...
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I have a suggestion that could help in the long run. I would use a fuel filter from a string trimmer or leaf blower or some other small engine even rc cars have them. The carbs on those engines don't have much sucking power so the filter is free flowing and will help to keep the pick up tube in your res on the bottom. My thought is it can keep contaminants from the filling process out of the small orifice in the air brush.
@seanb250
@seanb250 Жыл бұрын
The coolant tank will need a breather hole in the lid if you use it for an extended period of time, also that little compressor will be burning up in that cabinet, you should consider a way to pull the hot air out of the cabinet and draw fresh air in.
@raulkaap
@raulkaap Жыл бұрын
EXTREMELY AGREED!
@huskywang5530
@huskywang5530 Жыл бұрын
If you want to put sound insulation around the small compressor, be aware the heat generated by the compressor. I have noticed that if you keep the compressor running for a long time, it can get to the point where the motor housing is too hot to touch.
@jrsydvl7218
@jrsydvl7218 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a project that had me drilling deep holes in titanium rods. I rigged up a coolant setup mounted in my tailstock that directed shop-air to a thru-coolant drill bit so I didn't work harden the parts.
@platin2148
@platin2148 Жыл бұрын
There is actually normally a metal way cover for the more advanced lathes. Flooding is always the best option, but for the lathe you’d need a protection else it throws it all around.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
I prefer point cooling for lathes (i think it's called precision coolant by sandvik) It has as good of a cooling effect as flood and helps with chip breaking
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
The airbrush idea is new to me today, thank you for it.
@AdamS-nd5hi
@AdamS-nd5hi Жыл бұрын
This is an ingenious solution for budget setups.
@mattylarkspur9858
@mattylarkspur9858 Жыл бұрын
love this! you might want to add a sight glass of some kind to the reservoir so you know when it's running low - it'd suck to run out in the middle of a long finishing pass
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 Жыл бұрын
Note about tools. You can sharpen absolutely anything, long as there is chemical that eats the material. Have dull file? Clean it and dump it into citric acid bath for day or two, clean the oxide with brass brush under hot water, dry with paper or towel and apply protective oil. Havent had to buy new file except one time i could not find one from scrap piles i visit for specific job. Same applies to pretty much any blade. Only thing to consider is that acid in case of steel will remove material all over, so for mill bit if diameter is important that might a problem same with reamers, but for material removal bits its just fine. Just keep new bit around to do the final pass if you need it to be specific and keep acid sharpened bits in their own place away from new ones.
@willywgb
@willywgb Жыл бұрын
Almost ended up with a blue dog. Great job with the mist system. Cheers Willy
@capthowdy126
@capthowdy126 Жыл бұрын
i have a compressor setup like this to blow the chips off to one side on my mill. mine isnt as nice to look at and doesnt have the tank so its just the compressor pumping air into the hose an i have it necked down at the end to increase the pressure. ive never had issues out of it but the little compressor does get hot after running for a bit. mine didnt have any kind of cooling nor did it have the plastic body covering it so u might want to keep an eye on the temp. i added a 120mm fan to the end to cool the motor an a smaller 80mm fan over top of the compressor cause it does have heat fins so i figured that would help. ive been running this setup on my mill for a couple months now but i had previously ran the same setup on my cnc router an ive lost track of how much time it has running on it but its been fine. it might have been fine without the fans but it was just to hot for my comfort to leave it running on my little cnc router so the fans helped deal with that worry. thought id share.
@nitropiet
@nitropiet Жыл бұрын
Awesome idea! For quality of life you can add a solenoid to control the airflow and have it switched by the relay from the VFD so you only have coolant when the lathe is on. Also wire in a 3-way switch in series/parallel to override/disable the coolant.
@julianpiper240
@julianpiper240 Жыл бұрын
You should be able to increase the switching frequency of the variable speed drive to remove that high frequency noise from the lathe motor. By default it is around 2-4kHz. Set it up as high as possible
@advil000
@advil000 10 ай бұрын
You can DIY a "Fogbuster" type mist coolant system. It atomizes differently and there's NO airborn mist. I've used one on my CNC mill for years. Absolutely no fogging. Ever. Look it up online, it'll be fun. You could reuse several parts of your current setup, including you reservoir, air compressor and lines.
@XIIIStefanC
@XIIIStefanC Жыл бұрын
loved the video, very interesting to watch 😃 I laughed at the pauze when that dog passed and you were spray painting 🤣
@LuxGamer16
@LuxGamer16 Жыл бұрын
I'm really tempted to do this because i have an airbrush aswell😅 one thing to consider is heat from the compressor. These things get really hot during extended time use. So by keeping it in a cabinet i would think about a way to circulate fresh air in. Awesome video thanks for making it
@nefariousstylo9943
@nefariousstylo9943 Жыл бұрын
That might be a great idea for me to expand upon at my own shop. We have to run a mist cooler for one of our lathes, it's a CCC setup but uses a plasic hose you adjust to get close to the cutting tool. Great concept but when the part your turning is 3' od and your running .250' passes you spend way more time adjusting the hose to both do its job and not get sucked into the piece. I want something rigid and foolproof, this could be that.
@anthonyseiver7000
@anthonyseiver7000 Жыл бұрын
Night and day difference to the chips produced after you added coolant. Great problem solving
@adrianrawlings2470
@adrianrawlings2470 Жыл бұрын
The main factor to the carbide tip wear in your case is the lack of rigidity of your machine. As you mentioned carbides can handle a lot of heat. But they need a rock solid mounting platform to perform at their best. Something small lathes struggle with. Even my larger and more solid Herless struggles to be rigid enough to push carbide tools hard.
@OstrichWrestler
@OstrichWrestler Жыл бұрын
He did a make it a lot more rigid, but it may not be enough for the constant loading carbide likes.
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow Жыл бұрын
you could hook up the tank of the older one in the the supply system , use it as a bufferso the compressor doesnt kicks in so often , it allso allows you to kick on both compressors and get more cfm if you need it , i have a sandblasting cabinet and need more cfm to run it and im planning to do just that
@stringmanipulator
@stringmanipulator Жыл бұрын
very nice as always, I really liked the final touch with the hose making it a more floodcolant device. I already have all the parts and I want to try it out myself 😁 Now I just wish I had a 3hp motor and vfd 😁👌👍 thank you for sharing all your creative ideas //Kenneth
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 Жыл бұрын
Since I hate breathing unknown chemical mist and vapors in the shop, I think you might try a vortex tube and see if just cold air (-20 -> -50)will do the job? Maybe combine that cold air with an applicator of a bit of heavier cutting oil that won't vaporize so easily. Just spit balling here to avoid breathing aerosols.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Im not sure to be honest. it is an interesting idea though
@avelkm
@avelkm Жыл бұрын
My understanding that vortex tubes need so much more air (pressure and CFM) that you would be running big compressor all the time. Correct me if I'm wrong
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 Жыл бұрын
@@avelkm definitely takes lots of air but only while cutting, not all the time. Depends on the size too. 2cfm model is not so bad. We use them in our welding shop to cool welds cleanly. The point is would you rather breathe in a mist of hydrocarbons or air? It also settles all over everything in the shop. We had demisters installed on all our cnc machines because even with normal coolant it was intolerable to breathe near a machine.
@avelkm
@avelkm Жыл бұрын
@@billshiff2060 I dunno, really. It's just isn't applicable in this case as he clearly needs to lower background noise for recording purposes. I'm really bad at compressor math, what compressor CFM needed to power this 2scfm vortex generator?
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 Жыл бұрын
@@avelkm Air tools , with their duty cycle, are rated the same way as compressors so its simple addition. If quiet is what the goal is then ordinary coolant flow is nearly silent.
@wombora
@wombora Жыл бұрын
Another Idea - add a way longer airhose and put it further away - chek the temps of the compressor after running it for a while in that enclosed space
@Kmnri
@Kmnri Жыл бұрын
you can use 3d printer to produce custom adapters for weird threads, recently i had to adapt M13x1 and that was nowhere to be found, quick print from petg did the job (as long as its not too hot > 80deg celsius), and yes you can produce really fine threads with lets say 0.1mm layer height
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Жыл бұрын
if screwing to a metal thread, it doesn't even need to be that perfect of a print, kind of there just is enough the metal will form the rest of it when you screw it on.. i still use m8 rods for the z with printed nuts(outer is a larger shape than a metal normal nut) on my printer. a sort of a lets see temp solution but you know when a temp solution is good it kinda just becomes permanent. it fits tighter than metal nuts(no movement in xy), but still goes in and out nicely. it breaks other stuff before giving up if you have a problem with z enstop tho.
@defcud
@defcud Жыл бұрын
It's okay if your chips are hot. If your chips are breaking and coming off hot, then the heat should be leaving with the chip. If your feeds and speeds are correct, and using the right tooling, you can take a huge depth of cut with an aggressive feed, break hot chips and put little heat into the part.
@therealemmpunkt
@therealemmpunkt Жыл бұрын
Just some thoughts because i use a similar setup for my CNC: As you already mentioned: This is not exactly healthy ;) Thats the reason why i´m using a Water/Alcohol/Soap Mix for cooling. Downside: You have to clean and oil the machine after work or you will get rust! I have a similar compressor, but not the same. It has cooling vents, but there is no fan inside. I opened the motor to be sure. No fan and no room for a fan. I did mount an external fan (radial) for cooling, otherwise it will overheat and melt some parts inside the compressor. The capacitor was the first part that melted.... ;) Check if yours has a fan...
@avelkm
@avelkm Жыл бұрын
Breathing alcohol is not a safest thing either. Your liver might get upset (personal experience...)
@hellsbells3945
@hellsbells3945 Жыл бұрын
I have a very old EDM.modified a lot.its a nice little playground with restrictions.but for me ,beeing a professional mech and experienced with lathes and mills,its fun getting all out of it whats possible.precision wise,stability and so on.but having acces to bigger lathes and mills is neccessary.
@HannesMrg
@HannesMrg Жыл бұрын
You might want to add a little PC cooling Fan to the compressor. These little guys get quite hot when running for a long time (at least mine does) and a bit of cooling might make it last longer =)
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
There is a cooling fan already on the compressor, seems to Keep it cool but I’m always looking out to make sure it stays cool. Cheers
@HannesMrg
@HannesMrg Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes Oh, awesome! Mine doesn't seem to have that, only the fins on the Motor, nothing for the "compression chamber".
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn’t know some came without fans or if would have mentioned it. Cheers
@davidjones5416
@davidjones5416 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea I am going to build something similar but I will use the cars coolant tank that I had to change anyway and a compressor from our scrap fridge-freezer or windscreen washer tank with built in pumps
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Best of luck
@RolandElliottFirstG
@RolandElliottFirstG Жыл бұрын
I have been just deep freezing my parts I am cutting, that works well also.
@angelramos-2005
@angelramos-2005 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a good idea so far.I hope it will work.Thank you.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
I like the tube at the end, it gives you a bit of safety too if it happens to touch the chuck or workpiece. It does seem to be dripping small drops on the job, I wonder if you could simplify the whole system and just have a gravity feed dripper with a tiny nozzle? 🤔
@ImolaS3
@ImolaS3 Жыл бұрын
I see one if these on my lathe in the very near future! Thanks :)
@jlasud
@jlasud Жыл бұрын
Just had an idea watching this. A perfusion should work just as well, be much cheaper, totally noiseless,more compact, doesn't use any electricity, and you can adjust the dripping.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 Жыл бұрын
If you want to silence it then make sure you some mass to the metal. Look at a dynamat type system so you lower the resonance of the metal. As the foam on top of the mass damping. Remember to isolate the compressor with some rubber feet.
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Incidentally, those airbrush hose fittings are 1/8" BSP.
@RB-yq7qv
@RB-yq7qv Жыл бұрын
Great idea I'm off to Bunnings to grab a unit. It's cheap and I do believe portable.
@raindeergames6104
@raindeergames6104 Жыл бұрын
great work. I see some guys do a little deflection shield on a flex arm and it is really effective at directing the chips away from You
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects Жыл бұрын
Using a spray gun is a good idea, didn't think of that. I use a gravity fed drip coolant setup with mag base hose I got off eBay. No compressor needed, just need to adjust the ball valve to control the coolant volume. Only use it rarely though, just squirting some manually with a needle oiler bottle seems enough most of the time.
@hizzeist
@hizzeist Жыл бұрын
Really clean solution, love your videos
@creative_stwb1336
@creative_stwb1336 Жыл бұрын
You could try and use isopropanol as a coolant. Heared that its very good especialy when a good surface finishes is a requirement for the Part.
@avelkm
@avelkm Жыл бұрын
Your liver would be extremely grateful (not). If anything, use 96% ethanol with proper protection and ventilation (at least it's less poisonous). But you still would have problems with evaporation when not in use and sucking water out of air and depositing ut on your lathe
@creative_stwb1336
@creative_stwb1336 Жыл бұрын
@@avelkm i fully agree But there must be a reason to why Companys like datron use it. Im just wondering if the benefits of using it outway the cons
@avelkm
@avelkm Жыл бұрын
@@creative_stwb1336 industrially IP is cheaper than food grade ethanol and processes can be made to mitigate health risks. Not in a home workshop. If mist can be stopped from getting to your lungs by simple N95 mask, alcohols would require proper respirator with organic filters. The reason to use alcohols in first place is they cool to much lower temperatures then water-based coolants.
@Charles-lane277
@Charles-lane277 Жыл бұрын
You could always just build little shed for air compressor and put a hole in the wall so you can have the compressor outside and run a long hose from outside to inside.
@zyeborm
@zyeborm Жыл бұрын
Looking good man, have you considered a solenoid connected to the VFD perhaps to turn the air on and off so it's automatic?
@mkosmo
@mkosmo Жыл бұрын
What duty cycle is that compressor rated for? May want to make sure it's not going to give up the ghost on you if it's running full-time to keep up!
@MegaLostOne
@MegaLostOne Жыл бұрын
Is your air compressor going to have enough air going to it while it is in the cabinet to be able to cool itself? With the doors closed it seems it would want to recycle the warm air over and over until the heat built up and took either the motor or the compressor out. Not trying to be critical of what you have done just something to consider.
@jeh987
@jeh987 Жыл бұрын
Simple but effective good work
@SpatialGuy77
@SpatialGuy77 Жыл бұрын
An oldie but a goodie ... MISTER! 🤣😂
@matts8023
@matts8023 Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. But those adjustable blue tube things are only a few dollars. And you have a lathe, so making a needle valve might have been more relevant imo
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yes that was the backup.
@davedunn4285
@davedunn4285 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video and may well make one for my small lathe
@PhoenixRising2040
@PhoenixRising2040 Жыл бұрын
Appearently you can remove the compressor from a refrigerator and add it to an air tank to create a near silent air supply
@bradyoung6663
@bradyoung6663 Жыл бұрын
If only someone would have suggested this exact thing months ago.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Жыл бұрын
Will you need an air bleed hole to allow air into reservoir if using mister for extended periods of time?
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
There is a hole there somewhere, just forgot to add it when editing
@matthewhibbs9602
@matthewhibbs9602 Жыл бұрын
great job. My only comment would be to protect your lathe motor. 👍
@DodgyBrothersEngineering
@DodgyBrothersEngineering Жыл бұрын
And what happens when you have had it on a while does it stop coming out? You created a very tight seal with no way for air to get into the coolant tank.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
There is a small 2mm hole in the top to help vent
@ScuffedEngineer
@ScuffedEngineer Жыл бұрын
Keep using the WD-40. If you make sure it's dry by air isn't normally okay, but we have a CNC that is run hard and put up wet, it looks worse than the others.
@Jason-rs6co
@Jason-rs6co Жыл бұрын
3 hp or 1hp. doesnt matter. its your rpm, cutting speeds and feeds that determine chip size and colour more horsepower is what allows you a deeper cut
@AlbiesProductsOnline
@AlbiesProductsOnline Жыл бұрын
Did you add a air hole to the reservoir bottle? You may want to add a check valve to the coolant hose so it doesn’t need to suck the fluid all the way back up every time you turn it back on. Last thing you do know that WD40 is an acid and it breaks down oil that’s why you put it on old oiled components it breaks down the old oil so the lubricants in the WD40 can start working so when you put it on your lathe or other machines with surfaces metal on metal the WD40 will break down whatever oils you add making them less effective causing an increase of unnecessary wear
@DrFoo11
@DrFoo11 Жыл бұрын
Oh man! This is super....... cool
@sacrificialrubber779
@sacrificialrubber779 Жыл бұрын
Try adjusting the spray pattern on the airbrush, you might not need a different nozzle 🤷🏻‍♂️👍🏻
@M3euroS50B30
@M3euroS50B30 Жыл бұрын
Great Project!
@machinist_matt
@machinist_matt Жыл бұрын
Like the idea. But I can't bring myself to put water anywhere near my machines. 😬
@kanelivingstone2091
@kanelivingstone2091 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I love the trail of destruction since the new motor install
@christophersherratt7299
@christophersherratt7299 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bud been Watching your videos if you want to get a better finish on the slides put wet/dry paper with double sided tape depending how much it out will depend on grit use then just push back and forward should get equal flat smooth surfaces 😊
@colinmcmillan2642
@colinmcmillan2642 Жыл бұрын
Lovely job mate. Who was the 4 legged shop assistant?
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
The workshops guard dog :)
@binomair9326
@binomair9326 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Air Compressors need air to refill the tank ,,,inside it will get hot better keep it out for cooling and fill air. And remove the needle from airbrush to get better air
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It has a fan on it when has kept it cool and 20 30 minutes of work hasn’t caused it to heat up much
@floxmfpv5295
@floxmfpv5295 Жыл бұрын
Defenetly a geat idea of using the airbrush as an mql System, i never would have come up with this idea. However please don't use regular coolant for mist cooling (for long periods of time), there is a reason why special mql lubricans exists. The reason is as follows: If you atomize regular coolands, the oil particals get mixed with air and brcome suspended. They will adhere to anything your skin (not so damatic), irretate your eyes (only in large quantities) and get into your lungs (this is the most problematic one). This is the reason most vmc's with TSC have some kind of mistcollecting system. Idealy you want to enclose the lathe in some form or another. However i don't thinkt this is feasible for you. Maybe use it with good vetilation or a some sort of fune extractor. Don't worry since you propably aren't exposed to it all day everyday, however i just wanted to give you some advice.
@jasonburns1407
@jasonburns1407 Жыл бұрын
How much was the quiet small compressor?
@rondonovan4293
@rondonovan4293 Жыл бұрын
Great idea , thanks
@huntz3215
@huntz3215 Жыл бұрын
Will probably cook the compressor in a closed space, especially a cheap box store brand. Rule of thumb is running at 50% capacity.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I was worried about this too. I had it running for a good 20 minutes whilst turning down some 4140 and it didn’t seem to produce much heat. I think it’s operating well below the 15l min capacity although I can’t confirm it
@celestialbeas9214
@celestialbeas9214 Жыл бұрын
do you think you might need to shield the air intake of the motor from chips and moisture?
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
Inside the enclosed cabinet?
@celestialbeas9214
@celestialbeas9214 Жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 im talking about the lathe motor, not the compressor motor
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
@@celestialbeas9214 The ribs on the case say TEFC to me.
@celestialbeas9214
@celestialbeas9214 Жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 I mean, yeah, but chips can still gunk up the fan covering, and moisture spraying out from the plane of rotation on electronics, regardless of it being enclosed or not is not great for it. But even just to make cleanup easier, it's nice to have a backsplash of some sort.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
@@celestialbeas9214 You're reaching. 😄 TEFC motors run constantly (for years!) buried in saw dust, oil, grime, even cow shit. Let me show you some driving the conveyers of mines, transfer or recycling stations.
@mrcpu9999
@mrcpu9999 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to put the same setup on the mill to reduce the mess? Or at least give you options?
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Probably not, I am quite happy with the flood set up for the moment
@KF-qj2rn
@KF-qj2rn Жыл бұрын
i first saw those in the early 90s from devilbiss, Paasche, etc. and at least $120 or $150 which is like $30 now. instead of HVLP high vol. low pressure it's LVLP
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
We used Doerr/Gast rotary vane type pumps back in the 1960's. They offer plenty of pressure! You are thinking of the odd little rubber diaphragm pumps that would couple directly to the airbrush, but they would pulse too much without a reservoir.
@phatpizza610
@phatpizza610 Жыл бұрын
I laughed at your comment "You dont really want that landing on your skin" cause I was once taking some deep cuts at home whilst wearing thongs (flip flops for the yanks) and had a hot chip land in between my toes, lessons were learnt that day
@robertwalker7457
@robertwalker7457 Жыл бұрын
Nice thinking thanks.
@littlehills
@littlehills Жыл бұрын
make a viynle tube sight glass nice build
@Chromevulcan
@Chromevulcan Жыл бұрын
I've seen lots of folks using 2 liter bottles as reservoirs because they're see-through. Just a thought.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve seen that too, nice solution
@WayneCook306
@WayneCook306 Жыл бұрын
How does the lathe handle low RPM say 50 to 100 RPM is there enough torque for threading etc.? I have the same lathe and the torque is shit at low RPM, By the way, good job with the mister.👍👍👍
@HannesMrg
@HannesMrg Жыл бұрын
With the 3HP Motor it should have enough torque, right?
@Arthur-ue5vz
@Arthur-ue5vz Жыл бұрын
Cool! Hey, whatever works is the fix! 🙂
@dougmorgan6616
@dougmorgan6616 Жыл бұрын
It's a funny coincidence that, just yesterday, I was thinking of doing the same thing with my mini lathe.
@unfies
@unfies Жыл бұрын
9:29 yesssssssss 🎉
@tgfcujhb7583
@tgfcujhb7583 Жыл бұрын
The vynil hose Should fit straight into the airbrush without the jar lid..... 🤔👍👍👍😁
@TheDevoutTrout
@TheDevoutTrout Жыл бұрын
Just as a note, WD40has a long term corrosive resistant variety you might find more useful
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