What If Russia Won The Crimean War? | Alternate History

[@MonsieurDean]

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[@reeseman1932]

I can’t wait for scar Ferdinand

[@monarchblue4280]

@@reeseman1932 Damn. That's a kickass idea.

[@alphagamer9505]

I was literally searching for this what if a few weeks ago

[@MrAlepedroza]

What if Russia managed to carry on their Greek Plan along with Austria in 1788? Neo Byzantine Empire becomes a thing?

[@dominic5952]

Now this is epic

[@lucasnobrega1515]

Oh, pwease do that one

[@andreig8962]

Holy fu..

[@MrAlepedroza]

@@dominic5952 Yep. In our timeline, during the planned war that started in 1787, the russians managed to stomp the turks thanks to generals Suvorov and Potemkin living up to their legendary (although cruel) reputation, and they even managed to march all the way to Constantinople. However a Malaria plague crippled the austrian armies and fear of Prussia intervening made the allies finally sign for peace in 1791. Had things played out differently and preparations better, Suvorov may have very well been able to oust the turks from the Bosphorus forever and Anatolia turned into a russian province after a couple decades. The Austrians may have been eventually antagonized and the British changed their mind, fearing the increasing Russian power. However, after Napoleon rises to power in France, he may have been a great Russian ally, since in our timeline he only attacked Russia due to the latter siding with Britain against him. Some may say the brits and french may have intervened against the russians in 1787, but the latter were on the verge of their Revolution. The brits were apathetic towards the turks, besides not being in the best shape since they had lost several wars against the Americans and the French only five years earlier and was still recovering. Only Prussia was in shape to help the Ottomans, but had the Austrians been healthy, the odds of the former to beat theballies would not have been the best.

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@@MrAlepedroza Thank you for that tidbit. I will be looking into that.

[@vdagr8795]

this is probably the most realistic alternative history video I've ever seen

[@JustinianG]

I think you'd like this timeline of mine. it's basically the modern Greek version of this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKalYYmPdt6sp8k

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

How, Russia wasn’t even going to take Constantinople in our timeline. Also if Austria was at Russia’s side it would be totally fucked the Russian might still beat the Turks but Austria would definitely loose to France and SP.

[@mkd2839]

It's a shame it's made by a literal nazi

[@vdagr8795]

@@mkd2839 how

[@saladbruh2625]

@@mkd2839 he isnt nazi , he just knows his history

[@proudamerican183]

9:01 "Or draw in an ally". The USA actually was an ally. Just not heavily. In this alternate reality, I would say that America DOES heavily support Russia. Building ships and supplying medical aid. Giving food and alcohol and clothes and blankets and building materials. Also sending troops to fight alongside Russian troops and giving them equipment equal to British and French equipment.

[@mongolianares]

And when the American civil war happened the Russians were a big help in destroying CSA by sending all of their far east ships but usa didn't help that much in Russian civil war that's why the still is so strong the Russians sent all their far east fleet but the Americans sent a few hundred thousand guns like idiot's while knowing how many Russians are there

[@shidderofkyev613]

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[@kaiserwilhelmii674]

THANK YOU!! I wanted this topic so badly. I suggested this a lot. My interest in the Crimean War came from finding out I had a relative die in this war. He was Scottish. I had a printout of his final sent letter and official statement of death. And when I get into a subject it's always cool to think of the other outcomes. So again thank you very much for making this.

[@denisstoynev3935]

What if Bulgaria won the 2nd Balkan war? Sorry if I'm so annoying with the same question, but since I'm Bulgarian, I'm really curious what a video like that would look like!

[@MonsieurDean]

It's a good subject, and I'll certainly look into it.

[@denisstoynev3935]

@@MonsieurDean Thank you!

[@crownpenguin9180]

@@MonsieurDean it would be a grand Bulgarian Empire takeing parts of Greece, Romania, the ottomans ect.

[@denisstoynev3935]

@@crownpenguin9180 Plus, Bulgaria will be recognised as a military power after defeating every single one of their neighbours in one war.

[@00784865]

Thank god that never happened. Greetings from Serbia ;)

[@darthmortus5702]

Best Timeline! I think Ethiopia would end up Russian too given how it is Oriental Orthodox. Probably more of a client state than colony however.

[@vdagr8795]

@@EPICDZN Russia helped Ethiopia to fight off Italians because Ethiopians were Orthodox

[@gametmane1093]

EPIC DZN wasn’t Egypt Coptic Christian.

[@darthmortus5702]

@@EPICDZN Well I did say a client state not a colony for that reason. Russians would aid Ethiopia more than OTL since they would be in a position to and it will be more in their interest. It is just happens when a weaker and a stronger country develop close bonds. It does not end up an equal partnership. Not saying Ethiopia would be a total puppet but it would most likely end up in the Russian sphere of influence ITTL.

[@darthmortus5702]

@@gametmane1093 It has a considerable Coptic minority (I think about 15% today) and had a bigger one a 100 years ago but they have not been a majority for a long time.

[@gametmane1093]

@@darthmortus5702 Thats why i said was. It WAS coptic christian long time ago

[@11mousa]

Russia the bad guys? I'd consider France and England the bad guys in Europe up until WW1. Russia was huge but for the most part didn't really do much to Europe. They had some conflicts but were mostly reliable to their allies and didn't fight that many great wars. Germany, well they fought mostly among themselves after Charlemagne died. France and (and even more so England) on the other hand pretty much intervened in every single war always supporting the party they could bully around the most after a victory.

[@DK-gl3ih]

They’re always the boogeyman

[@khangnguyenthaiduy9129]

Russia is like the boogeyman or barbarians in Europe's eyes. The Holy Roman Empire viewed Russia as Mongolian bastards and the rest of Europe in 15-16th century did not see Russia as a European nation but some barbaric land of the East. To them at the time, Poland and Hungary were Eastern Europe (and a dominant power of the East). That however, changed after Russia conquered most of the East which made the entire Europe trembled and had to let Russia be in the "Europe club", not because Russia was "civilized" like them but out of fear. Russia is like the black sheep who wanted to get along with the white one (Europe) and was treated as an outcast.

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

That's what all of them did. The fact that England and France were (which is arguable) more successful about it does not mean it wasn't the modus operandi for every other European power as well. Did you forget how Russia, Germany and Austria just sat down for a talk one day and decided Poland should stop existing? Which it later did?

[@ihl0700677525]

Nope. Eastern Europe was just as chaotic. The rivalries between Russia, Poland (Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth), Sweden, and the Germans (HRE/Austria, Prussia) in that region was just as brutal as the shifting rivalries between France, England/Britain, Spain, and the Netherlands. The Western Europeans (i.e. Spain, Portugal, France, England and the Netherlands) simply had better access to world oceans, so their rivalries spanned the globe while the Central and Eastern Europeans stuck in their own region. Above all, there's no "good guy" in geopolitics. Everyone pursue their own interest. Maybe you think current US global hegemony is somewhat good, but I bet the Russians, the Chinese and the Iranians disagree.

[@tuluppampam]

@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 it was Prussia, Austria, and Russia; there was no Germany

[@이동연-c6d]

I love it! And here are the lists that I want to see the future video. 1. What if Korean Empire never fails. 2. What if Korea becomes the colony of France? 3. What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA? 4. What if Xinhai Revolution failed? 5. What if Two Sicilian Empire had a colony or refuse to united with Italian Empire? 6. What if USA failed in the Spanish American war? 7. What if Ethiopia was the superpower in the African continent? 8. What if Park Chunghee survives in the 10/26? 9. What if China was scrambled like Africa? 10. What if China won the First Sino-Japanese War?

[@AW27007]

Don't forget what if the Holy Roman Empire United

[@forscienceistokra1549]

Korea invades manchuria then siberia then japan then all of Asia and Japan is just japan and europe falls to the greater Korean empire as the us surrenders die to the sheer might of korea.

[@rmar127]

Bakthi Hapuarachchi there would have been no Bolshevik revolution in this scenario.

[@reds.victim1023]

n°5 should be what if GARIBALDI didn't give Southern Italy to the King. The Two Siciles were a) never an empire and b) never accepted unification.

[@juantamayo5295]

but Japan already was a puppet of the US

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

What if Zanzibar won the Anglo-Zanzibar War? *The Sultan of Oman lives in Zanzibar now*

[@denisstoynev3935]

That's just where he lives.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

@@Void_Wars this is meant to be an actual suggestion, as in what if Zanzibar actually won. Also, unlike the channels you mention, I have content. Several vids, actually

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

@@Void_Wars The Brits had 2 gunboats and three cruisers. They didn't send their entire navy to Zanzibar. And 1,050 soldiers. Zanzibar had 2,800 soldiers, a shore battery, a royal yacht, and 4 artillery pieces. So basically, imagine a scenario where Zanzibar had the advantage (which soldier number wise, they did), never gave up, and the Brits retreated. Even if the palace was destroyed

[@redddyvistora8620]

@@Void_Wars gae

[@gametmane1093]

Void Phenomenon cringe bruh

[@neilc.8368]

I need help of creating a scenario of ‘what if the Aztecs beat the Spaniards from being conquered’ and how this would effect Europe. I saw one of the previous alternate history scenarios stating that money coming from the new world, to Spain, then to the Hapsburgs, would have a lower financial stability, and could mean Protestantism grows a larger presences in Europe, where France becomes Protestant and Sweden becomes a world power by absorbing the northern German states into the Swedish Empire, thus creating a United German Power. You guys have anymore ideas?

[@crownpenguin9180]

They take over inca?

[@MonsieurDean]

The Aztecs were, in truth, a declining power, eventually all their neighbors would have turned against them, and there were at least two other powers in Central America at the time who could have seriously crippled them. In Europe, Spain was entering decline not long after it established it's empire. A lack of wealth does hamper the Hapsburg agenda, but over-all, Britain and France still assume leading colonial roles in the coming years. The key factor in the scenario you're proposing seems to be the impact such funding would have on the Reformation War, which would have been about a century prior to the War of Spanish Succession, and Spain's formal collapse as an empire. Mind you, I'm going off the top of my head here, but it would seem to me that the impact in France would be minimal, given that the French had already taken action measures against Protestantism, Sweden could emerge as a stronger force within Germany, but this is liking to fade in a century as it's navy is unable to compete with that of Britain and France, thus, unable to reap colonial gains as effectively. I'll look into this scenario soon.

[@Ypog_UA]

@@MonsieurDean Great ideas in this and the first comment

[@crownpenguin9180]

@@Ypog_UA are you on about me?

[@monarchblue4280]

@@MonsieurDean It would also be interesting to make a "what if the Inca fought of and beat the Spanish" too. Maybe the European diseases dont do too much bad stuff for the population of the Inca and the emperor isnt killed by it. Let's just say the emperor is also high iq. Hes good at military and all. He can repel the Spanish and keep the Inca civilization alive and well. I haven't done too much research but I think the scenario would have some interesting repercussions. Your thoughts?

[@saskiaviking9447]

Considering Russia still sees herself as the liberator of the Slavs, I think Russia would pressure Austria to give her Galicia-Lodomeria.

[@MonsieurDean]

This might be the case later on, but at the time, Russia's role as leader of the East-Orthodox world held greater importance than it's Pan-Slavic goals.

[@ghostwolfdeclassified6399]

A perfect example of the Butterfly effect. If the outcome of a small seemingly insignificant war like the Crimean War was any different, the 20th and 21st centuries could have been completely different. That alternate world would be completely unrecognizable to our world.

[@dremin7902]

I mean… it’s wasn’t insignificant.

[@georgios_5342]

A two years war with the world's three most powerful countries isn't really insignificant

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

The fact it isn't as well known as some other wars does not make it insignificant lol

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 it seems like most people know of it for the poem about ‘The Charge of The Light Brigade’.

[@rokball4892]

This episode is one of my best Alternate history videos on your channel that I wished that this is happening in our timeline!

[@andrejicev7629]

same here

[@christian9125abd]

I as an Austrian love this what if, one of the best timelines for austria

[@jadesabrexiv]

Okay, that was really good and believable. I honestly hope that you make a sequel to this touching upon the Russo-Japanese War and WWI and the shift in alliances that you set up. That said, I think the US would be a wildcard with a slight tendency to favor the British. If the gold-hunters had serious issues taking their findings back to the States, that raises the chance of there being an anti-Russian sentiment in the years leading up to WWI. Also, depending on how Russia does in the R-J war could further spur distrust between the R and the States.

[@Elsass_Bastard]

I'd say the US and Russia would tend to be friendly as a counter-balance to the British. Russia help the USA during Civil War. Also, keep in mind American imperial ambitions for Canada since 1812.

[@jadesabrexiv]

@@Elsass_Bastard Relations would rely on the reaction to Russia's handling of the Yukon Gold Rush. If the Russians allowed the Americans to take the gold they found out of Alaska and into USA, relations would be good. If the Russians refused to allow the Americans to take the gold home...sour relations. Also, there could be some leftover issues from the Oregon Territory Claims back in the 1840's. Russia did hold a claim to the Oregon Territory but let it go. If there is some bad memories on either side from that, issues could arise.

[@SuperDrake85]

I see a potential for friction between US and Canadian prospectors in Alaska, maybe some skirmishes or whatever. Maybe Russian forces step in on the side of American prospectors in exchange for friendly relations with America (which sours relations between America and Britain). Friendlier relations with America would have also a game changer in the Russo-Japanese war, even if the US did not intervene as a belligerent, the US providing support and logistics and allowing Russian fleets to use port facilities in Hawaii or the Philippines would have been a tremendous advantage that Russia did not have in our timeline.

[@jadesabrexiv]

​@@SuperDrake85 IF the Russians worked as a Resource Generator and sold to the Americans they would be a firm ally contender. Depending on how much they scorn the Canadians, the relations between them and UK could be a MASSIVE game-changer and possibly drive UK and Germany closer. That possibility makes a lot of the future wars a deck of Shifters that could make the Twentieth Century a LOT different then what we got.

[@Thats_quite_cool]

Ideas for alternate histories: What if Belgium never left the Netherlands (Benelux Union)? What if King William I of England produced an heir to the Dutch and English throne? What if Portugal became the primary Iberian power?

[@napoleon_bonaparte_the_great]

What if Napoleon IV was restored before he died in Zulu land?

[@thorpeaaron1110]

The beginning of the Thrid French Empire

[@jackthorton10]

Ever a Fighter those French, they got my respect in that aspect

[@Dragonite43]

You would need the Monarchist to agree to support Napoleon IV as they were two other French Monarchist groups in France.

[@huchung9886]

What if the Vikings infected the natives early, so that by the time of Colombus, they’d develop a better (but not perfect) immunity

[@alexllaquecava8619]

You must understand that besides the ilnesess (idk if i spelled it write) the conquest of both Aztec and Inca Empire was a political matter. Spanish actually played good diplomacy and managed to turn the dominated peoples of central mexico against Aztecs. About the Inca Empire i can provide a better explanation as i am peruvian. Before Spanish came, there was a civil war that destroyed 1/3 of the entire quechua military force (quechua is the ethnic name, Inca is the tittle, like "Tzar" in Russia) which left the empire with only 80 000 men. After the death of Atahualpa the last true Inca, the military of the empire where left in hands of his three friends and generals: Chalcuchima in Jauja (centre of Peru), Quisquis in Cuzco and Rumiñahui in Quito (second largest city of the empire in Ecuador). While the north of the empire was very peacfuly, near the core there were many warrior people (like the chancas) that agreed to ally spain. That gave Spain a 60 000 battlefroce. Despide being more in numbers, the generals were pride and also wanted the throne for them so they didn't cooperate with eachtoher and lost many battles. Something that it isn't discussed in the european history is the HUGE battles that happened during the fall of the Inca Empire. For example, after Atahualpa, his succesor Manco Inca managed to reunite a force among 40 000 - 100 000 men and siege Cuzco to retake the capital but ultimately failed against Spain who had a 30 000 military force mostly composed by native people. The Incas even managed to siege Lima, the capital of the Viceroyalty of Peru with a force of exactly 40 000 men against 30 000 spanish forces but at the end 20 000 spanish reinforcemets came from behind and destroyed the last remains of the inca military army. I think the only difference that would've happened if the natives had better immunity, at least in Peru, would be that the battles probably would be more gigantic as there would be more population and man power.

[@yoshi2413]

Weird question I’ve always had (has no relation to this), for the first people to make a language that would mean they have to remember every word they make up. That’s like taking a vocab quiz for every word made.

[@Padre619]

You'll take my life but I’ll take yours too You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through So when you're waiting for the next attack You'd better stand there's no turning back

[@MonsieurDean]

That's a nice poem.

[@jackthorton10]

Hail the Kaiser long may he reign!

[@manicdgr]

@@MonsieurDean That's song "The Trooper" by iron maiden!

[@manicdgr]

UP THE IRONS 🤘!!!

[@Padre619]

@@manicdgr Dio's one of my favorites too, and one of the greatest

[@clydesteele2925]

What if Yugoslavia reformed during Tito's regime and managed to survive the 90s without, well, breaking out into a bloody conflict?

[@emperorofwends8875]

You whoud need to create new yougoslav identiti to do that

[@alemhalilovic3958]

@@borissimeonov0 No its not i should know im from the Balkans

[@darthmortus5702]

It could work theoretically. A fair number of people felt they were Yugoslavs first and foremost, ofc the war demolished their numbers. The key would be 1) great powers (mainly Germany) need to not meddle 2) better economic reforms leading to people having good lives and not thinking about "what's mine." Having more harmonious ethnic relations (mainly by even more squashing the Serbian identity than OTL and making them forget WW2) helps ofc. And you would also need to see even more federalization probably so everyone has their own corner of a greater whole.

[@Sean12248]

Do people want to bring back Yugoslavia?

[@darthmortus5702]

@@Sean12248 Some, mostly older people and mostly Serbian people. Which annoys me to no end since we got screwed the hardest in that abomination. But yeah in general older people like it more and Serbs, Bosniaks and Macedonians like it more while Slovenians and especially Croats like it less.

[@jeremythomas5640]

Well, Crimea is under Russian control in our actual timeline, so there’s that.

[@stefotorpedo]

Well... now I know what I'll be doing in my next Victoria 2 playthrough.

[@michellesimmons8998]

What if the Polish Kingdom and Grand Duchy of Lithuania never united?

[@wojciechkowalski8061]

If by united you mean no dynastic union: While they would propably still cooperate to eliminate the threat of Teutonic Order, the result would propably lead to more western-oriented Poland and eastern-oriented Lithuania, and cultures of both countries would develop radically different than in our timeline. We could never see many unique parts of the culture, law or government of the PLC. Poland would propably become more involved in the German affairs (alternative candidate for king Jadwiga's hand was one of the german dukes or princes if I recall correctly) or reinforce bonds with Hungary, and without the multi-ethnical and multi-religious structure of the PLC, they would become an eager participant in the religious wars of the reformation period. Even Polish army would propably develop differently, with lesser focus on cavalry in comparison to PLC (goodbye Winged Hussars :( ). Lithuania would propably compete with Muscovy for the Ruthenian lands and try to secure the modern-day Baltic countries. Both nations would propably compete for some border regions, but those conflicts would propably be quite rare due to mostly relative poor development of said regions, and try to partition the Teutonic state between themselves. I could also see the modern-day Romania becoming a three-way playground for Poland, GDL and Ottomans (with result depending on alliances).

[@Gabsboy123]

@@wojciechkowalski8061 Lithuania forms a personal union with Muscovy instead to form the Tsardom of Russia. Poland eventually joins the HRE and becomes more involved in German affairs.

[@sultanmustafa71]

Suggestion for Monsieur Z: What If the Spanish Armada Succeeded in Invading Britain? Also, great channel.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

You have improved Mr Z. This actually felt like it could have happened.

[@medified4872]

“This video is sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends” Monsieur Z are you okay?

[@angryman132]

He's getting paper

[@rudolfkraffzick642]

The video is almost done but there is still no scenario of Russia winning the war. It starts only after 9 minutes. Good bye!

[@TheKing-mm4me]

Now this is intriguing, thank you

[@adam13magic63]

Nooo! They even got mAh boi Mr. Z with Raid Shadow Legends sponsor!!!

[@crownpenguin9180]

He was sponsored by raid so long ago

[@crownpenguin9180]

More russia, and no more raid, For ever

[@이동연-c6d]

Yes! This video is that I really want to see it! And I want to see what if Russian Empire colonizes western Canada and What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA?

[@Lolpy.]

Don’t know if you’ve done this one or not before, but if you could an alternate history where the Norman conquest of England in 1066 failed. That’s always been a favorite of mine.

[@davidweikle9538]

What if the Turks weren’t allowed to conquer Constantinople after the end of the Great War?

[@KangarooCheese55]

Huh?

[@lint9305]

Well, they weren't allowed to keep Istanbul initially, along with a significant amount of territory, but they were able retake those lost lands back eventually.

[@vdagr8795]

It's basic history, Russia had claims in Constantinople and Eastern Anatolia, France and Britain in the Middle East and Greece in Western Anatolia.

[@AshGamer007]

They weren't allowed. They took it themselves during Turkish War of Independence. If they couldn't then Greece would've taken it (the entente is not going to give Constantinople to Soviet Union. It was promised to Tsar)

[@revbigmoney]

Greece is stronk

[@texaspatriot2038]

Please do a Golden Circle timeline. Like redue it

[@crownpenguin9180]

What is your name, like why that????

[@michaelsickenger7692]

Eww

[@texaspatriot2038]

@Usuário Sarcástico thanks friend

@Usuário Sarcástico I have no doubt that the vast majority of people that fly the flag have fully embraced the Lost Cause myth and associate the flag in southern pride. The modern left has done a disservice to those people by assuming they understood its history and embraced it. The problem is that it is a revision of of the Confederacy and what the flag originally represented. It began with Jubal Early, and Jefferson Davis during the 1880s. It was popularized by the UDC and Woodrow Wilson during the early 20th century The Confederacy, according to its constitution, president, vice president, and the ordinances of secession of the states who formed it, primarily inauguration

[@KolchaksGhost]

Usuário Sarcástico look up the cornerstone speech

[@cmalexmc1160]

This is just so nice to watch, can you do a part 2?

[@teajay19]

Always love these videos

[@codybrox4693]

What if the Russian empire went to war with America to reclaim Alaska? And do you think you could do a video on Dixie from your story I am Uncle Sam?

[@el4668]

What if the Spanish American war never happened? and What if Castille United with Portugal instead of Aragon?

[@baronknitz126]

I've been waiting for this one

[@zhcultivator]

Great video, I have some suggestions for alternate history videos which are:- What if Mexico becomes a superpower? What if the entire African continent becomes Industrialized?

[@Sean12248]

When I read the title of the video I immediately thought it was the conflict going on in Ukeraine. Then I realized it was the one from the 1850's.

[@ReyndOut]

I have an alternate history idea: What if the bomb that was accidentally dropped on North Carolina was detonated? In our timeline, only 1 safety mechanism prevented havoc on the state.

[@ReyndOut]

It was a nuclear bomb

[@jackthorton10]

Oh, that is a nugget of possibilities waiting to happen I , almost forgot about that event.

[@SpoodDadoo]

I would absolutely LOVE a redone werewolf Germany video, truly the best of your work.

[@SpoodDadoo]

@Martin Casinillo that’s the one

[@SpoodDadoo]

@Martin Casinillo The organized military force of commandos that was set apart from the government, and was to continue fighting during occupation.

[@venomknight7031]

One question What if Britain and France joined the American civil war?

[@clydesteele2925]

So the Trent Affair escalates?

[@thorpeaaron1110]

@@clydesteele2925 yup

[@crownpenguin9180]

Ooo that would be fun

[@thorpeaaron1110]

If that happened France would invade the American Southwest via Mexico to assist the Confederacy in that theater and to the British invasion of the North the Union would send troops to attack Canada making the Union fight a three front war basically this scenario is just Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory and in which the South wins the civil war with help from Britain and France leading to an independent Confederacy. In this scenario since there's basically no United States the France continue their support of the Second Mexican Empire and Juarez's war against the Imperial Mexican froces is over with the defeat of the Republicans lead by Juarez

[@nilswettlin2012]

@@thorpeaaron1110 Austria, Prussia, Italy / Sardinia piedmont, and Russia would have sided with the union, the god chancellor Bismarck would see this as a good opportunity to both get the Russians as allies and weaken the franco - brits

[@comeintotheforest]

How would WW2 look if Norway had never split from the Union of Sweden-Norway?? 🇸🇪 🇳🇴

[@givemeyoureggs456]

@DuckDuckPlay Well the only reason why Norway was invaded is to secure access to Sweden so unless the Allies want to have another country against it probably not much

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

No Norway invasion. Also I would expect more support and volunteers from the region to go to Finland in their fight against the soviets so I reckon Finland might lose less land. Alternatively, Finland becomes backed up from a less neutral Swedo-Norway and wins or never gets invaded.

[@georgios_5342]

I thing it is a big omission that you didn't talk about Greece/New Byzantium or the Russian "Greek plan".

[@AlternativaRed]

One of the many problems with alternate history videos is that they draw on concepts of our own time. For example, in the video the narrator talks about "Russia catching up with the West" ─ there was no notion of "the West" at the time. It's largely a XXth century concept.

[@ΓιάννηςΜπέης-λ9φ]

9:03 actually the Greeks were about to join in but France and Britain send an ultimatum asking not to join.

[@alexchen4518]

Basically the same plot from the Holy Roman Empire novel

[@FatheredPuma81]

"No doubt you've already heard about this-" Me: "Literal Gambling simulator made by the heads of gambling? Yes of course I have who hasn't?"

[@Toxic-fn9tz]

Amazing video! I love this alternate scenario and it’s interesting to see how much the world changes.

[@GarrettFruge]

Cool video!

[@tonigamer730]

5:25 that reminds me to a certain meme....

[@tonigamer730]

@Rick Fredrick Sorry brother it is not my first language. I'm from Spain and I do my best

[@tsarnature6587]

@@tonigamer730 Hah gayyy

[@mizcaesar1804]

Love your videos man,keep it up👍

[@margarettealfeche8730]

Yo my buddy Cody suggested what if Russia went to war with Russia to reclaim Russia during the Russian civil war

[@morsecode980]

• What if Germany was dismantled/Balkanized after either WW1 or 2? • What if Napoleon III was against Italian unification, thus allying with Austria against the Italians in 1859 and possibly against Prussia in 1866?

[@eduardvandenheever8565]

Perhaps in this time line, since Britain is weaker, they don't try to annex the Boer republics in South Africa, or they lose the 2nd Anglo-Boer war. What do you guys think?

[@branimirkolarov3493]

What if yugoslavia did not turned communist after ww2?

[@mirkosavkic794]

@Electro85 no, communists didn't have any support in the people. Yugoslavia would be a Kingdom today and one of the most developed countries in Europe.

[@Pajdas610]

@@mirkosavkic794 Communists had support of the majority by year 1945.

[@mirkosavkic794]

@@Pajdas610 hahahah no jarane. Why they faked referendum then? Blind boxes? 70% of people was for King, even Croats. I know that because in my village (half Serb half Croatian) 90% Croats voted for King.

[@Pajdas610]

@@mirkosavkic794 I am a Croat and i know that we would never want a Serb king, not after what Serbs did to us. Kingdom of Yugoslavia was a prison.

[@mirkosavkic794]

@@Pajdas610 maybe today. But in my village, many Croats were in Royal army during the war. Yes, many Croats, back then, didn't like communists at all, and were for the king. That's why communist faked referendum. They knew they can't win. People like king, it's simple as that.

[@michaelsickenger7692]

Can you maybe please do a timeline where Ehtopia never declines and is able to hold of Arab and Italian invasion thus being able to hold on to her empire and her coast line in Somalia?

[@markojones7450]

Can you do a part two please?

[@Mana-xd2tp]

What if the German Empire annexed the Philippines, Puerto Rico and Cuba

[@rokball4892]

I want to see the new chapter of the Scar Nicholas!!!! 😆

[@evatmmeras7339]

What if You made a scenario just for me? *The Sami had their own nation occupying the Lappland territories of northernmost Norway, Finland, Sweden and the kola peninsula?* What if it was a matriarchal monarch? Would my great great grandmother be friends with Catherina the great?

[@comeintotheforest]

Jag ÄLSKAR den här idén

[@evatmmeras7339]

@@comeintotheforest Baserat

[@kevinhixson1586]

What if Britain stayed Roman after the fall of western rome.

[@crownpenguin9180]

I like that, England would claim that they are the second rome

[@darthmortus5702]

There is a great timeline about that on Alternate History called Cato's Cavalry if you are interested.

[@donquesewilliamswilliams3497]

Britain was barely roman, it was Celtic people who were Romanticized.

[@donquesewilliamswilliams3497]

@Usuário Sarcástico Franks Lombards Italians and Greeks, are not Roman.

[@ashtondoesathing]

I know how sometimes you like to talk into wacky alternate histories, such as the emu one. So, I raise the question: What if the Foo Fighters never formed, leaving the world with a global threat of Foo?

[@jonashahn9358]

What if German Confederation united in the 1848 Revolution?

[@Geshiko-GuP]

BEST Russian empire video ever!

[@ryanmalone4464]

Hey monsieur Z could you do an alt history where napoleon the second survived and came to rule?

[@nicky5683]

It can be argued that this was the impetus for the detente between Prussia/NGC (under Bismark). What if Wilhelm II had continued Bismark's policies towards Russia?

[@epiceducation867]

This alternative is so cool

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Monsieur Z can you do a video on What if Sweden won the Great Northern War

[@danielwolfgang8234]

When the Crimean War broke out, Prussia was in the middle of carrying out Military Reforms. So even if Frederic William IV. had wanted to go to war, it would have been impossible.

[@mathieuleader8601]

what if Defence secretary Dennis Healey managed to get Wilson to deploy British troops in Vietnam

[@moonshinei]

What if Russia won the Great Raid Shadow Legends War?

[@benjaminjackboot6409]

Could you do a What If about the alternate world of the novel "The Peshawar Lancers" ? I imagine it could be done more realistic than what the autor did in the novel.

[@Vandelberger]

Russian conquest of Istanbul would of probably led to a Greek uprising at some point soon, with Slavic support

[@achistorian6978]

What if the Sino-Soviet border conflict escalated into a war ?

[@AmariFukui]

This scenario makes me wonder what would have happened had Austria joined against Russia in the Crimean war given their fear at the time was the expansion of Russian power at their expense, perhaps an Alternate WW1 in which Russia and Germany were Allies against Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, France and the UK? Sounds like a crushing victory for the Central powers and a strange brotherhood

[@TheKeithvidz]

whoa AH guested? Well looks like a cool channel.

[@Mark-uh3un]

Austria once again deciding the fate of the world

[@ImperialZorn686]

What if the beer Hall putch was successful ?

[@gammavalentin7]

dude u gotta continue this

[@hellscythe-dono3628]

Blessed timeline

[@zionmolina3039]

What if Bolivia won the war of the Pacific?

[@koop2014]

Where do you get these style of maps you use and edit?

[@teddyclement2737]

Part 2 please

[@yanalbertoagudelo9687]

So what you're saying is that the Russian Empire would have become one of the massive globe encompassing blobs player nations become in grand strategy games?

[@meanbean_supporter1234]

The Ottomans: Glory Glory what a hell of away to doe

[@aidanciesinski8174]

How do you all think the the Russo-Japanese war would have gone in the timeline?

[@Gabsboy123]

The Cold War would have started 50 years earlier pitting Russia against Great Britain, with the other great powers assuming a secondary role. With gold and oil being discovered in Alaska, Russia would be more incentivized to build up infrastructure there, encourage more immigration there, and most importantly build up a navy there. Russia would fare a lot better in the war against Japan than in our timeline; the Alaskan fleet would hold off the Japanese Navy and buy time for the Black Sea and Mediterranean fleets to sail a shorter route to the Far East and win the war. Russia would annex Manchuria and Korea and Japan's imperial ambitions would be over before it even started.

[@sahilhossain8204]

The rise of third rome

[@jackalnerf6230]

What if Scotland and England never unified?

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

What if the Greek Plan, planned by Russia under Yekaterina II and Austria in 1788 was launched? (I saw some asking for it already but if we are many to ask it there are better chances he does this Alternative timeline)

[@taylorshipman1045]

As much as i would like you to grow i kinda like the tighter knit following you have

[@MonsieurDean]

We have several ways of maintaining that. Foremost method is enabling notifications, and keeping in touch via the US of Z Website.

[@taylorshipman1045]

Monsieur Z i have notifications enabled ive been with ya for years

[@Pebble3007]

No mention of the troops from the Crimean War were shipped to India to stop the Mutiny. There would be a chance that Britain could have invaded Russian Alaska at the time of the war.

[@kaladin8081]

What a beautiful flag.

[@MonsieurDean]

I'm glad it came out as it did, it went through thirty versions, and took over two hours to get this design just right.

[@madmasseur6422]

What if the allies just annexed their occupied German lands instead of making west Germany and Austria

[@celdur4635]

I should mention, Russia wasn't really "backward" since it was more advanced than 99% of the world at the time, only the remaining 1% was more advanced than it.

[@AshGamer007]

And that one percent was his neighbours in Europe. Soo....

[@sgauden02]

What if the Plains Indians banded together under a charismatic war chief, and successfully resisted westward expansion?