Misunderstanding Consciousness Could Cost You Your Sanity | Nietzsche vs Descartes On Consciousness

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My god ; really Nietzsche is outstanding;

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It would be nice to have a video comparing these concepts to modern science/psychology

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[@arsartium108]

The real illusion that is imbedded in our language, according to Nietzsche, is the notion that reality is something stable, that certainty and indubitableness are the reliable marks of truth, and that truth itself is something eternal and unchanging. Nietzsche wants to register the complexity of the assumptions Descartes thinks are simple, and thereby expose Descartes’ desire, his agenda. Descartes defines truth as whatever contributes to our control, mastery, centrality, security, empowerment, and domination of the World. In one sense Descartes hasn’t actually failed when he accepts what Nietzsche considers the illusion of the ego, because that illusion, in fact, makes it possible for him to proceed and experience his desire to feel power, mastery, and control, and this is precisely in accord with Nietzsche’s view of philosophy as interpretation of reality. The real objection Nietzsche raises isn’t so much the falsity of Descartes’ program, but rather its crudity, its paucity, its commonness. The value of Cartesian inquiry is precisely that it does falsify reality. What matters is the distinction between stupid, banal, impoverished, life-negating interpretations of reality, and interpretations that are interesting, provocative, productive, and life-affirming. Descartes was satisfied with illusions that Nietzsche found banal, base, and crude. What Nietzsche finds in Descartes is not "pure thinking" but rather a peculiar sensibility, a style, a certain desire, and above all, an instinct or drive for stability obtained by simplifying reality in a crude and unintelligent manner, and with an impure purpose. Descartes thus was almost an anti-thinker for Nietzsche, for he was trying to dispose of questions rather than pose them.

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

Great stuff. Have you ever heard of a guy named John Lash?

[@arsartium108]

​@@timothyvonvictory7105 No, but I think we might agree on many topics of Western philosophy and hidden history, based on a gloss of his work I did just now. On the other hand, I must disagree with his general premise that before the birth of Christianity, monotheism was an anomaly. Quite the contrary: Until about 5000 years ago, the world was predominantly monotheistic. I would say his assertion holds for the West and Far East for the period following the gradual revolt against the priest class, which happened during the worldwide transformation (c. 1000-300 B.C.) that gradually culminated regionally in Buddhism, Confucianism, Stoicism, etc. Despite this transition, however, monotheism continued to flourish in India. The reason for this difference is that monotheism had already been supplanted with demigod worship throughout the rest of the world by this time. Alongside monotheism, a branch of Indian philosophy known as Nirvishesha (Mayavadi) has existed for many thousands of years. Nirvishesha is simply monism, the familiar concept that the absolute truth is one, the oneness of which we and all things are part. Mayavadis believe that the absolute truth is Brahman, eternal spiritual light, the original substance of reality, the first cause of Creation, and the ultimate destination. Compare with Aristotelean Hylomorphism. Nirvishesha (Impersonal Monism) differs from Shunyavadi (Buddhism), which holds the absolute truth to be void, nothingness. All of this is described in the ancient Vedic literature. The Sanskrit word 'veda' means knowledge. It turns out that all manner of philosophical doctrine and logics developed in the West during the past 2500 years preexisted in full form in India for thousands of years. The very best dialogues of Plato, a Pythagorean, echo the Vedic concept of the Soul (immaterial, primeval, eternal, immortal). Unlike Plato, his student Aristotle, a monist who propounded the materialistic conception of hylomorphism, established ideas that pervasively have infected and polluted Western philosophy and most of theology to this day. Through his study of the Vedic literature, Arthur Schopenhauer quickly realized the uncanny connection between more recent European philosophical ideas and ancient Vedic systems. Nietzsche too studied the Vedas, and to anyone versed in Vedic philosophy, it's plain to see the very premise of Beyond Good and Evil was lifted transparently from Vedic thought (Bhagavad Gita). Pythagoras traveled to India to study under the Brahmins, who taught him mathematics, astronomy, and the essence of seriously living the philosophy, as opposed to mental speculation and sophistry. Jesus spent most of his missing years in India, where he became known as Issa; and to this day there are temples of Issa dating from that time, still maintained. The Essene Gospels provide important information about these connections written by contemporary sages living in proximity to Jesus. The Gnostics were influenced by monism, and generally, their concept of God was a crude attempt to articulate what the Vedas, thousands of years earlier, had elaborately described as Brahaman, the preliminary stage of God realization. Due to the predominant rise of irreligion in the West, Christ advented himself to correct and deliver them. A renegade section of the brahminical class in in India had deviated by misinterpreting certainVedic injunctions to justify animal slaughter. Therefore, Buddha advented himself to correct them. According to the Vedas, wherever and whenever there is a decline in religion and a predominant rise of irreligion, God descends Himself, or He sends His confidential servant, both to establish the pious and to subdue the miscreants. According to the Vedas, Demigods are not competitors or alternatives to God, but rather His devoted servants, advanced souls, 33 million in number, Divinely empowered and charged with maintaining Universal affairs. Those that worship the Demigods for material benefit certainly have their desires fulfilled, but the Vedas describe such people as less intelligent, because whatever Demigods may provide must be sanctioned and facilitated by the Supreme Person. Therefore, whatever one obtains by Demigod worship ultimately comes from God. The Vedas originally were transmitted orally for many thousands of years, because there was no need for books owing to the perfect recall of our ancestors. A disciple could hear anything from his guru just once and remember it verbatim for his entire life. This capacity was lost about 5000 years ago, at the end of Dvapara Yuga, with the beginning of Kali Yuga, characterized by humans of small stature, short duration of life, poor memory, misfortune, corruption, irreligion, and endless war (Bhagavat Purana, 12th Canto). At the beginning of Kali Yuga, the Vedas mention degraded peoples of the world, such as the Yavanas (Greeks), criticizing their worship of Demigods and subsistence on flesh. The Puranas describe how corrupt ksatrias (kings) were driven out or killed for a period spanning 21 generations by Parasurama, and how some that escaped (e.g. King Skanda) had settled in what is now called Northern Europe. Vedic astronomical calculations performed thousands of years ago are within seconds of modern calculations using high speed computers. Quadratic equations, the Pythagorean Theorem, and Number theory were known in India long before any European "invented" these concepts. The Vedas describe with schematics vimanas, flying ships powered by crystals capable of undersea and interplanetary travel. The brahmastra weapon (complete combustion of matter into energy), the weapon of ultimate destruction is described, along with weather weapons, weapons of mass illusion (holograms?), all produced using subtle sound technology. The Russians and Nazis took the Vedas seriously as references in their development of various modern technologies, including masers. The dependence of matter upon consciousness (Quantum Mechanics) is foundational within the Vedic model of reality, and the atomic theory of matter was known in India long before Democritus. Sanskrit, the language of the Vedas, is the root of both Latin and Greek and has 8 cases. No, this hasn't been refuted; there were no "proto-Aryan" people, and the bogus attempt to falsely late-date the Vedas has been disproved using satellite imaging and archeological excavation along the palaeo river Sarasvati. We are finally being freed from the elites' stranglehold on information, history, countervailing evidence, and false narratives regarding our origins and the currents of civilization. But where to begin? Anyone truly interested in the history of the world needs to look at the Vedas, which in fact are the beginning. Modern advancement has been little more than incremental rediscovery of what was known for eons and forgotten long ago. "It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson, praising Bhagavad Gita

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@@arsartium108 check em out bro. An anology he gave once was that most philosophers, comparative mythologists, historians etc are all sitting around a pool having a cocktail party. Discussing what's in the pool. Talking about how they think it's this or that. Talking about how great it is. Meanwhile along comes John and JUMPS IN the pool lol. I feel like that's what it's all about for me, for us. Deeper and deeper interconnectivity with nature and the cosmos at large. Any way, you talk like him so I asked

[@arsartium108]

@@timothyvonvictory7105 I agree with you here. I believe it's useful to think of logos and the muthos as Man's two eyes necessary for perspective in order that we may see both clearly and deeply. The eye of logos is illumined by the Sun, while the eye of muthos by the Moon. Monocular vision is still vision, surely, but it lacks depth and perspective. Without this second eye, an entire dimension remains latent, hidden, and like the philosophers chided by Nietzsche, those half-blind seers able only to grope on the backs of things, we too perceive forms without penetrating beyond the surface when we see with but one eye.

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Amazing: you tied so well Nietzsche to Freud, and Jung. They owe Nietzsche their best thoughts. So clear connections between them. Thanks.

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This pretty hard to make sense of haha!

[@andorandor5462]

nothing wrong with a long video if you keep the audience interested. I think I friend a bunch of neurons listening to this so I want compensation :P. I never understood the thing with souls, holy spirits and ghosts. I mean, conscience from what I know is located in the brain, therefor in the body, if you want to transfer your conscience into a computer I don't think it would be possible, unless the computer has the exact shape and mechanics of your brain. Conscience is not a program unless DNA dictates exactly how a particular individual thinks, or maybe it's a mixture of both, in witch case you might be able to translate DNA thinking into a machine but if it's a mix than it's more complex. What a bunch of nonsense I just said =)), or maybe I got it right who knows.

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