mitsubishi I miev, Ion, c zero, crap or perfect?

[@lloydsumpter7735]

We love our little 2012 MiEV. It still gets 90 km range, and it's perfect for driving around town. We use it pretty much every day and plug it in overnight. I haven't noticed any increase in my electric bill.

[@pascaluber8623]

That’s cool to hear, mine is a 2015 model and manage 115 km a few months ago 😉👌🏼. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpmWnIKChpqYfJY

[@nicksutton2964]

Thanks for uploading. I wish that Mitsubishi had not discontinued the i-miev. There still isn't a new version out as I too would recommend it as a daily runabout. I love mine. As soon as I started driving this I realised that I would never go back to a gas car. The smooth silent push when you accelerate during cruise is wonderful. No drama, just a bit more speed when you want it. So quiet and smooth at all times. I am in Japan and the shifter has D mode for normal driving, E mode for lower power acceleration and less regenerative braking, while at the end of the gate is B with the same acceleration as D mode but with higher regenerative braking. I also noticed recently it has self-leveling headlights and the electric windows remain operative for a time after the 'ignition' is switched off - for those times when you park up and forget to close the windows. I know these things are probably no big deal to some people who read this but hey, this is a great little car and it deserves some love, ha ha!

[@pascaluber8623]

Yes I agree, it gets more respect then my model S, just because I know this little car let me sleep wel at night 😉😉👌🏼

[@Georgatzis]

You are kidding? This is the most expensive small car !!! The battery costs 10.000 euros and the charger that gets bad after 10 or 15 years costs 4500. I have bought this car for the economy but after paying 4300 euro for a charger I was shocked. Especially because they don t sell separately the part that was defective so you must buy all the charger!

[@pascaluber8623]

All cars cost when something important brakes down... the Imiev is still cheap if you see the % off failures ift the years used, my battery is still perfect after 6 years / 65.000 km, dont think this will crash suddenly, and after 10-15 years i dont think this little car is till good, if I can keep mine for 10 years then my car cost is just 1.600€ in car value what is verry cheap. i’m shure I will still get 2.000€ in 2025 for my car an then the cost is even cheaper. Of course its bad that things brake down, but a car is always gamling.

[@nils.k9651]

Greetings from La Palma, Canarias! For me, my iMiEV is the ideal car. The island is small, so the restricted range is almost always ok. I charge my car nearly exclusively from my own photovoltaic (we have plenty of sun energy even in winter). Rust is a problem only on the roof when the sun has corroded the paint - but not with the chassis. Another point is remarkable: here in the mountains (up to 2.426 meters) conventional cars have a high brake wear. Due to the recuperation, this hardly occurs at all in my case. I always drive in gear stage B.

[@pascaluber8623]

Nils. K sounds perfect👌🏼

[@metricstormtrooper]

Thanks for the review, I've always loved Kei Cars especially the I-Miev, but I needed more room, so I bought myself a Mitsubishi Minicab Miev Van, basically the same running gear but Huge inside.

[@pascaluber8623]

Nice choice, i never seen one in real life, only pics, wich country are you from?

[@harry130747]

I have had one for eight years. Battery packed in at 16,000 miles . Fortunately under guarantee. (A new battery = £7000/$10,000!) The underside is prone to rust so needs watching. Apart from that, a great car to drive. Very practical, especially as a second car for city driving. Poor range at any speed over 50mph.

[@MB-ix6rc]

I agree with your thoughts on the iMiev. On balance, a great vehicle. I have a 2012 model with the improved cells in regional Australia. Excellent vehicle for the work commute and even side work like food delivery. I am sure the cost reductions for batteries and growing business expertise will lead to a battery and AC kW charging upgrade path independent of the manufacturer. With around 30kWh usable I would be comfortable driving the car on a road trip.

[@pascaluber8623]

I know a man here kn Norway that drove the Imiev to Spain🙈🙈 this summmer I will do a 600 km trip and see how it goes 👌🏼

[@portlandlocalchurch8168]

Can you give me some contact information for the upgraded battery?

[@Brendalovesdior]

Thanks for the video. I might get a 2016 i-miev and am happy to see nice videos about them ☺️

[@pascaluber8623]

Its cute and perfect for citydriving 😉👍🏼

[@Brendalovesdior]

@@pascaluber8623 yes! I decided to buy it! Arrives mid-February yay!!!

[@pascaluber8623]

👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@pascaluber8623]

How is it going, got the car yet? 😉

[@toyotaprius79]

Definitely needed now

[@alterego157]

It's a great little city car. As you said. very practical. Tons of space for hauling stuff in the back, plenty of room inside and yet very compact o the outside, great visibility, .... a really, really, well done small city car. BUT the replacement battery is expensive as hell. 18,000 eur for Peugeot iOn or something like that. And you will need to replace the battery, sooner or later.

[@toyotaprius79]

It was always an undervalued vehicle. Back in the early days, the iMiEV and sisters were commendable. I was expecting for a battery upgrade over the years. But none. And therefore, such a relatively practical, compactand definitely amiable car was left stunted. If it had 35kWh today like the VW e-UP, it would be among my top choices

[@pascaluber8623]

Agree, but I found out that i dont need more than 50 km/day, so I think we keep this little bugger until it dies for real 😉

[@samusaran7317]

There is actually a 30 kWh battery upgrade available with one pedal driving, cruise, auto hold, a bump in power from the motor.

[@Alex-tj1zo]

@@samusaran7317 Where did you find that? It would be interesting to have an idea about the price 🤔

[@samusaran7317]

@@Alex-tj1zo Fakebook/Themtube.

[@samusaran7317]

@@Alex-tj1zo Price depends on if you want to give them the original battery to knock off some money off original price and upgrades that come with the bundle. IE one pedal driving, added cruise control and other things. As of now its much cheaper to upgrade the imiev than finding another 30 kwh car including original price for the car.

[@DMX-PAT]

Maybe a part 2 video if you have more to say because I really like this one!!

[@Tore_Lund]

Efficient EVs are the ones to get. Big E-SUVs using 200Wh or more per km are crap to drive around now with expensive electricity. I drive a similar size EV and I spend very little on charging.

[@AgentSmith911]

I wish Mitsubishi would update this car model instead of just cancelling it 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@portlandlocalchurch8168]

Still Driving it? Are you able to source any replacement parts easily there? Here is US there is very little available parts

[@Prodigious1One]

Good summary. I miss my imiev. Now I have a leaf. It's good, but my imiev was my first car.

[@pascaluber8623]

I know exactly what you mean! I had a Leaf 30 kwh and baught a Tesla model S, but the Imiev is still more commen sense for the daily drive, we will Probably never sell the Imiev, its just to good, symplicity, price, cost are just rediculus😉

[@Prodigious1One]

@@pascaluber8623 yeah, I had a chance to buy another imiev to replace my first one, but it only had 75 miles of range. The leaf that I bought shows about 90 miles at the most. Both cars can probably get more range with careful driving. My problems with the imiev were replacing the tires or putting air in them often, sometimes the seat was uncomfortable and it was a little small inside. Otherwise it's a good car.

[@DMX-PAT]

@@pascaluber8623 How was the driving compared to the leaf?

[@pascaluber8623]

thelocustemperor the Leaf is a much better drive, but the batteries might last less than the Imiev, the Leaf is more «car» and fantastic to drive, but when we baught this Imiev new it was 9K $ less than the Leaf, If you can buy a Leaf whit all the 12 bars a 24 kwh battery for around 7K dollars its a better deal I guess 😉 difgicult question 🙈🙈

[@annavariumful]

Thank's for an informative video! A great little / big car! !!

[@pascaluber8623]

Thx, we enjoy it every day for what its worth 🙏🏻👌🏼

[@thomasdepaor1518]

I noticed independent EV battery specialists are upgrading old Nissan leafs by replacing the battery packs, to 40kwh battery's, extending the ranges to 160 miles, I was wondering if any battery specialists where, doing the same with the i Miev, Citroen c zeros ?

[@pascaluber8623]

I’m afraid not for these, but I know som do so private, but not original from the factory that K know of.

[@davidspencer7254]

Oz Electric Vehicles do.

[@t8polestarcyan22]

What do you think of its successor EK X EV?

[@alexismitilineos9248]

NICE VIDEO I LOVE IT. I WAS WONDERING IF IT IS WORTH IT TO BUY A USED ONE WITH 90.000 KM IN GOOD CONDITION.IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW WHAT RANGE I CAN DO WITH IT. IT IS 2012 MODEL MITSUBISHI I MIEV IS IT BETTER TO FIND A NEWER MODEL ? THANKS

[@pascaluber8623]

If they can give you a test of the battery health its nonproblem, but it depends about the price. If you can buy for around 3000€ ?

[@alexismitilineos9248]

@@pascaluber8623 thanks!!!!

[@theelectricisraeli]

That is amazing!!!

[@pascaluber8623]

My wife just love this one, happy wife=happy me😉 lucky she doest want something expensive 😉😉

[@Georgatzis]

You are kidding ? This is the most expensive small car !!! The battery cost 10.000 euros and the charger that gets bad after 10 or 15 years costs 4500.

[@pascaluber8623]

Not kidding, just facts 😉

[@ioannisypatidis9170]

Hi, what happens if the battery brakes down? DO you have to buy a new one? Or is it possible to fix the existing one?

[@portlandlocalchurch8168]

Thats the main problem with these cars, a replacement battery from Mitsubishi is $16000 usd here in America.. and none of the mechanic shops will repair a single bad battery cell

[@nidaerguiza6888]

Hi! I'm thinking of getting a second hand ION with about 35.000km. I enjoyed watching your video. I am worried about highway range. Do you think it can make 90km at 80km/h? I don't like the leaf and the Zoe. The Kia Soul is still very expensive. Regards

[@pascaluber8623]

Nida Erguiza hi Nida, it will do ok in de summer, but not in winter, can you get electricity at destination?

[@MrPiikkipallo]

Hmm I've been thinking about getting an EV for some time now, these past few years a lot of charging stations around everywhere, even the small grocery store next to my house has a fast charging station. Currently I drive a toyota yaris that uses ~7L/100km and with current gas prices that's 18 euros, not to mention other maintenance costs. Anyways, this car is the cheapest EV on the used market at the moment, in my country anyways, for around 8K and the next one would be a volkswagen e-up at arounf 17K, but that's way too expensive for me. There is the nissan leaf at around 10-13K, but that is a much bigger car and its range is worse than the imiev. 90% of my driving is commuting to work and back, 20km to work and 20km back, so this could work for me. Then again these are 10 year old EVs with old batteries, so I wonder how long are they good for before needing to be replaced, and I'm guessing that won't be cheap. But then again the ones I'm looking at still retain a good amount of charge even for models like 2011 and 2012, so I guess the battery does last a while? Another thing I wonder, is how well would it fare in cold weather? I live in finland and in the winter it can get as cold as -20C (or lower).

[@samthomas1457]

"We own a Tesla, a Mercedes, but to beat this one... It's not going to be beatable." 😂

[@pascaluber8623]

I had a Tesla also, but can’t quit the Imiev😉 best car we own.

[@samthomas1457]

@@pascaluber8623 I managed to buy a Peugeot ion, I want to do the modification to unlock the extra gear but no idea where to get the Imiev plastic cover for the gear stick. Its got corrosion underneath, I have done a DIY job but probably should of sent it to a garage.

[@lifeisgood660]

Hi, do you have webasto to heat your car in winter to extend driving range?

[@pascaluber8623]

Not before no, but bought one this year, YES Needed more comfort 😉 I use a simple heatingfan on the passanger floor, 15 min and the car is 18’c inside when subzero outside.

[@harry130747]

I just put a fan heater in the car for a few minutes before we set off.

[@pfmatos1986]

You still recomend this car in 2021, buying uses for 6000+-?

[@pascaluber8623]

Yes I do, but then it has to be latest 2017 model with less then 40,000 km, still a super deal, ( 6000€) my 2015 model I still can sell for 5500-6000€ today, so if you can get a 2 year jonger model with halv km then mine its a bargan. I probablynever gone sell ours, its just to good for the moneyeven we have other nice EV’s.

[@pfmatos1986]

@@pascaluber8623 but if its a 2013 model with 89 616 km?

[@pascaluber8623]

To expensive , for a 2013 model with 90K km i would pay max 4500 €, better to buy a Leaf for 6000€..same year and km

[@pfmatos1986]

@@pascaluber8623 not this price on Portugal

[@jamesbuchan416]

Hello, how much range have you lost from the battery since new do you think? Interesting in buying a lightly used one.

[@pascaluber8623]

James Buchan hello James, didn’t test it with equipment but out off experiance with same routes, around 5-6%, holds realy well in my case

[@pascaluber8623]

Did a test now and still manage to do what it did when new, back in 2015 🙈 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpmWnIKChpqYfJY

[@pioneer7777777]

Debating buying a 2012 with 39,000 miles (62,000km) for $4,900 USD. We already have a LEAF, and a gas car, this would be just for my commute so I can stop using gas during the week.

[@pascaluber8623]

pioneer7777777 Hei , its an ok deal, but check for rust under the car in the back end. You can probably nock the price a bit down.

[@pioneer7777777]

@@pascaluber8623 Thanks, will look for rust and see what I find. Going to test drive it tomorrow. Have never driven one so I'm excited.

[@pascaluber8623]

How did it went?

[@pioneer7777777]

@@pascaluber8623 Hehe, just got home from the test drive. The seller was very nice, but I think that it's not for me. The ride quality and features are not nearly as nice as our LEAF. I'll probably just wait a bit then get a long range EV. It was fun to drive though even if the ride and handling dynamics were not impressive.

[@pascaluber8623]

pioneer7777777 yes its a special little car, but I still think price/costs/practical we love it, even we own also a Leaf30Kwh (2015) and a Model S P85+(2014) Its not easy whats best but you have to consider your daily use, comute and price tag 😉 good luck with EV’s suddenly you find the perfect match😉

[@ThanosSustainable]

Is there an easy way to check for the state of health of the battery? Would that be possible through canion?

[@pascaluber8623]

thanar hello, I didn’t had the need to check that yet but ask this on a FB page Imiev UK, there they can give you more datails like this, mine after 60.000 km, 6 years it still goes as far as new, so a minimum

[@Georgatzis]

Wait until your charger go bad ( what is happen 8 to 10 cars )or the battery pack! Then you need a charger for 4000 euro and a battery pack for 10.000 Euros! And don t think that you can buy a used because all are vin coded !!! So driving an imiev is more expensive as a normal small car after 15 years! Thanks to Mitsubishi that show as once again what is to drive an electric car!! Green drive looks different !

[@pascaluber8623]

Wel, we can only hope not all cars are monday cars 😉

[@Pvalila]

Battery modules are a bit tricky to swap as they indeed are coded (not VIN-coded but coded to the battery - by the time the battery is made no one knows in which car it will be used). Thereafter, you must move the EEPROM from the original battery module to the "new" one you want to use.

[@leifarnemo6443]

I just swapped in a used battery pack in my 2011 iMiev, 900 euros for a pack from a crashed one. 2.5 hours work, plug and play. didn't even need to reprogram anything, no error messages.

[@iliterallyhavenouse5089]

This is worth the same price as a second hand bmw that has a lot of problems.

[@pascaluber8623]

Yepp, we save a lot off $