Mitsubishi i-MiEV range test

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Күн бұрын

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@IdaGSol
@IdaGSol 3 жыл бұрын
Bought mine for €7000 in Y 2020 in Sweden. A 2011 in shape as brand new with only 18 000 km on the meter. The 10 y old battery gives us 130-140 km in summertime and 100+ km during Swedish winter. The total cost for 10 000 km first year is €2 for washing fluid. Looking forward to doing the first service measure myself, which is changing 0,7 l standard transmission oil every 40 000 km for the cost of €7. No need to change braking pads, at least not the first 100 000 km. Then you can do it yourself with a simple pair of pliers and pads costs around € 22 per pair. It´s a whole new world to own this wonderful car. We barely ever drive our other (fossil) car now. And Nowadays u don´t have to be too afraid of changing the full battery after long wear degradation. There are specialist firms here that can detect and easily exchange the failing battery cells (usually 1-3 of 88) that causes degradation for a quite low cost.
@dragonfencing5147
@dragonfencing5147 5 жыл бұрын
My first EV was a 2013 I-MiEV. My best summer range was 136 @65km/hr and 110km in winter (-10c) @ 80km/hr with heat off. I would hypermile it by putting it in neutral to max out range. It was a great 2nd car for commuting. Rear seats was able to fit 1 child seat with wifey behind driver’s seat.
@MacGyver1908
@MacGyver1908 5 жыл бұрын
Shieeeeeeeeeeet! Dude it’s my car! 😊
@MauriceNL1
@MauriceNL1 5 жыл бұрын
I though you had a X 75D. Or am i just confused🤔
@MacGyver1908
@MacGyver1908 5 жыл бұрын
MauriceNL Yupp :-) I have Model X75D, i-MiEV, and ordered Model 3 Performance 😁
@MauriceNL1
@MauriceNL1 5 жыл бұрын
@@MacGyver1908 oeh, nice. I love the Model 3!
@Kallenator1988
@Kallenator1988 5 жыл бұрын
Sup! Me too! :D (Well, you know what I mean Pawel)
@stevencorrea7982
@stevencorrea7982 5 жыл бұрын
You make me want to ship my pants 😂
@CAESARbonds
@CAESARbonds 5 жыл бұрын
A hint for owners of this car. Insulate the heater and its piping. As this part is based on an ice car. It will reduce the energy consumption dramatically and the time until you feel the heat.
@CAESARbonds
@CAESARbonds 5 жыл бұрын
And the time it takes until you feeel the heat ... clumsy fingers
@sd6w7
@sd6w7 4 жыл бұрын
@@CAESARbonds can you show how to on a video or else?
@berttroubleyn3475
@berttroubleyn3475 5 жыл бұрын
I used to work for Mitsubishi for a whopping 6 months. Whenever I could, I would leave my company car at the office and take the iMiEV because i liked it so much. It is so nippy and parking is a no-brainer. However, when I requested to have my stupid ASX diesel company car exchanged for an iMiEV, the answer was: "Japan won't sell them to us anymore, and even if they would, we wouldn't care because it's a car we can't sell afterwards, so the answer is no". Problem is: here in Belgium, an iMiEV costs as much as a Leaf, which is about twice what I think it's worth. It's a shame, because it is a car that brings a lot of driving enjoyment.
@_a.z
@_a.z 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they were rather expensive because they were just so good and the manufacturers knew it!
@slipperyslope3912
@slipperyslope3912 Жыл бұрын
You have the best EV review videos bud. Real world, honest. Love it.
@bevcdavid
@bevcdavid 5 жыл бұрын
Bjørn, thank you very much for this review! I am about to buy one, so this was at the right time, at the right place! Have a nice day! D
@rolicot4229
@rolicot4229 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a triplet test, thank you so much! Just two little remarks: please use your OBD dongle with some app (canion) and you will get the numbers you want (wh/km etc.). And then you also should get more exact consumption, because if the battery is a little degraded, e.g. 12 instead of 14.5 kWh usable, then you calculated the consumption slightly higher than it actually is.
@magneelvemo433
@magneelvemo433 Жыл бұрын
I've been searching for the canion app but I'm unable to find it. Tried Google Play. Can you help?
@cherrytreepermaculture756
@cherrytreepermaculture756 Жыл бұрын
We love our 2014 iMiev.
@kayeintr2455
@kayeintr2455 4 жыл бұрын
Imiev was my first EV in 2012. I love these cars. Now i have my 4th EV. The MG ZS EV 👍🏻
@timstruppi7897
@timstruppi7897 5 жыл бұрын
You are not allowed to do range tests with i-MiEV/Smart in winter times because tire industry does not manufacture efficient winter tires (E/F) for that size. Range is almost x1,5 with summer tires (B) and i-MiEV is the most efficient EV on the market. In Austria and Germany the heating system and doors are insulated by mitsubishi dealers and range is about 10-20% higher. i-MiEV stops at 82% to free the charging point for next Chademo driver. The rear seats can be adjusted in 1cm sections which is great for child seats. The i-MiEV has 6 airbags and the roof material absorbs odors for lifetime. Torque is limited to save tire cost and is only free if you stay on accelerator for several seconds. i-MiEV comes with active cole cabin filter which can be changed in seconds by drivers. The wipers are speed adjustable. When you put both charging cables in the car Chademo stops and AC goes on until 100% automatically. 2012+ has remote heater and charging timer and you can even select if you want to heat the car or defrost only the windscreen. I would say the remote works at least from 200m distance with fresh batteries. An outstanding most underrated car!
@JeffKubel
@JeffKubel 5 жыл бұрын
i-MiEV with CHAdeMO will divert AC to cool the battery, so that's why you hear the blower fan and can't turn it off.
@dorsetengineering
@dorsetengineering 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, video I have been waiting for :)
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 5 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I'm a Model 3 LR owner, but I could totally see myself picking one of these up as a toy car to run around for errands.
@anthonybha4510
@anthonybha4510 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. Now hunting for a used one of these
@dondakin1
@dondakin1 5 жыл бұрын
@@anthonybha4510 These cars are super cool and fun to drive and like all ev's in North america they lost value like hell pick up a used one and have some fun.
@mauriceprins1663
@mauriceprins1663 2 жыл бұрын
Try drifting it in snow. So much fun!
@lestergranger1685
@lestergranger1685 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty down to earth guy. I like him!
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 5 жыл бұрын
Not too bad for such a small car, it can be an entry electric for people like me with an average or lower salary XD
@AsekiBekovy
@AsekiBekovy 2 жыл бұрын
I come from the future to tell you that now this is basically the poor man's only option to own a car at all, because gas is so expensive that only middle income and above can afford it
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 2 жыл бұрын
@@AsekiBekovy Well I still own a diesel car, I'm not moving to an electric soon as they're too expensive and the range and charge speed still sucks.
@AsekiBekovy
@AsekiBekovy 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgentSmith911 Seems to depend on the kind of car and driving conditions. We wanted to buy a Diesel NV200 to be able to do long trips and sleep in it, but they were quite expensive and not in best condition. Ended up with the eNV200 instead because it matches our typical driving (short distances only, longer distances maybe once a month) much better and also because of the much lower running cost. Gotta say though that it was an absolute bargain. Got it for the price you would normally pay for a Leaf in similar condition. Range really does not matter for us because we never drive longer distances per day than the car can do without a recharge. When we do, it charges quickly enought that we can have a break while charging and not be stressed. We have it for a year now and the lower running cost already compensated the price difference about half way. But that was only possible because the eNV200 was an absolute bargain... we were really lucky.
@cherrytreepermaculture756
@cherrytreepermaculture756 Жыл бұрын
We paid under $10k CAD for a very lightly used one.
@bfun4615
@bfun4615 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2016 Mitsubishi I-Miev in the US here. It's a great car for around town and commuting. Any farther I have to get my gas car to get where I'm going.
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 5 жыл бұрын
Relating the consumption to 100 km is what fossil car users are used to. Moreover, it is easier to calculate the range from it when knowing your EV's battery capacity. E.g. if a car consumes 20 kWh/100 km and you have a 40 kWh battery, you know you get 2 x 100 km of range. This is why I prefer the kWh/100 km unit, and if I read Wh/km unit I always convert it to kWh/100 km in my head by moving the decimal point. It's always easier to calculate with small numbers. When it comes to "consumption" (kWh/100 km) and capacity (kWh), the factor between the two numbers is typically a value between 0.5 and 5.0 in today's EVs. That's nice & handy to calculate in one's head effortlessly. Our flawed human brain likes to compare numbers in same order of magnitude (i.e. less than factor 10 difference) ;-)
@florian_spdl
@florian_spdl 5 жыл бұрын
Also isn't the electricity price per kWh usually? Which is the main reason to normalize the consumption down to that value and since kWh/km would be too small of a number to seem logical to most people, you do kWh/100km. Pretty easy to calculate in that regard, I pay 0,40€ per kWh, car uses 20kWh per 100km = 8€ per 100km or 8ct per km...
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 5 жыл бұрын
@@florian_spdl Good point!! This is a third good reason for using "kWh/100 km". Summary: 1.) Small number value factor between consumption and battery capacity, and smaller numbers in general. Hence easier calculation from consumption figure to achievable range. 2.) People are used to consumption in "... per 100 km" 3.) People are used to kWh from their electricity bills, thus it's easier to calculate cost per distance! (also, the number value for the price in EUR for 100 km is the same as cents for 1 km)
@electrodacus
@electrodacus 5 жыл бұрын
200Wh/km so 1kWh/0.2kWh = 5 and 0.40€ / 5 = 8ct per km. To get the true cost you will also need to add the battery amortization cost that may be even more significant than the price of electricity.
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 5 жыл бұрын
@@electrodacus sure. and the amortisation cost of the car's purchasing price. and tax. and insurance... for the whole picture, it's more complicated of course.
@electrodacus
@electrodacus 5 жыл бұрын
What I wanted to mention is that the equivalent gasoline car cost is lower by the amount the battery will cost so when comparing the cost of EV vs ICE the cost of gasoline to drive a certain distance will need to be compared with the cost of electricity + the cost amortization of the battery. The battery will have a warranty usually in the 160000 to 192000km this are from Tesla model 3 regular and long range and then divide the cost of the battery to this warranty distance and you get the best case cost amortization per km The long range 80kWh model 3 battery is around $16000 / 192000km = 8.33 cent/km so very significant as that alone is the same whit what I pay for gasoline on my old inefficient 6 cylinder 3.5L ICE (most of my driving is highway). So typical EV will cost about 2x as much as gasoline depending on electricity and gasoline prices at your location. If battery cost amortization is ignored then EV may look like lower cost to drive.
@thomasdepaor1518
@thomasdepaor1518 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they will be able to upgrade the cells in these older cars, to increase the range up 150 miles, I'm sure they will have the know how pretty soon.
@dondakin1
@dondakin1 5 жыл бұрын
The Imiev will always stop at around 80% during quick charging. You just have to restart it and it will continue. I never pushed mine up to 100% but I charged it to about 95% on quick chargers.
@Kallenator1988
@Kallenator1988 5 жыл бұрын
My personal record with this car is 117km with 14% remaining capacity calculated to roughly 98Wh/km. During summer with no AC,
@manwithcorsae7738
@manwithcorsae7738 5 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly although it's so small you can get a full set of golf clubs AND trolley in the back with the seats down. I almost bought one in 2013, but my wife wasn't happy with the battery replacement price. You have to remember that then no-one really new how long the batteries would last (I even spoke to Nissan at the time).
@fergus247
@fergus247 5 жыл бұрын
There is something special about the imiev
@JerzyWodarczykhotelarz
@JerzyWodarczykhotelarz 5 жыл бұрын
Great! I was waiting for this test for ages! By the way - I am doing much better consumption results :) Thank you for this video.
@787UrbanApparel
@787UrbanApparel 5 жыл бұрын
.... Nicely Done !!! I will do my review on my imiev 2012 SE very soon . Is my first EV which i purchase about 3 years ago for a whooping $7500 only ... so far im very impress and happy with my Imiev , i was able to assimilate very quickly into this car . ... is a money saver , gas savings , and maintance savings ...
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 5 жыл бұрын
When the i-Miev came out I was really disappointed and to me it was a bit of a joke. First up it looked so damn EV-ish, but over the years I've changed my mind. The styling has grown on me and it doesn't really have any vices, unless the little car itself doesn't fit your needs. I haven't closely checked the prices but for a certain driver who just needs a runabout it must be a really good secondhand option. The batteries should be in half-decent condition too given that there is an active management system. An entry level EV? What does Pawel think of his i-Miev?
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын
I'm dying to get a hold of a CZero, I see one in Ireland for under €4000. A lot imo but the practicality and battery durability alone feels worth it, plus CHAdeMO every 60km or so. The lack of confidence from dealerships and mechanics however...
@travelvideos
@travelvideos 5 жыл бұрын
They sell it also in Hong Kong. You sit relatively high there, but all the winds move the car. Can't drive fast on windy days.
@tedwalker1370
@tedwalker1370 Жыл бұрын
Plastic interior is easy to clean and makes good sound deadening for the most part.
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 2 жыл бұрын
Be on the look for the upgraded 30 kWh versions running around. A range rest would be cool too see. Cheers
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын
I'd seriously look forward to that
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 Жыл бұрын
@@toyotaprius79 Same here. He shouldn't have any issue finding one considering all the battery pack wizards in his area.
@AB-yt4hd
@AB-yt4hd 5 жыл бұрын
You can use the free app "canion" to look at the data of the car. You can even look the state of individual cells.
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage 5 жыл бұрын
looking at one of these for purchase right now.
@aigarius
@aigarius 5 жыл бұрын
kWh/100km makes more sense because it is perfectly fine to thing about a 230km trip as a 200km (and a bit), so it is far easier to multiply 33 by 2 and get 66kWh and estimate the "a bit" to a third, so get +11kWh, rather than multiply 330 by 200 and then count down the zeros to get 66000 Wh and *way* easer than multiplying 330 by 230 to get 75900 Wh. It is all about having smaller numbers that you can use easily in your head. Also comparing to l/100km is a useful thing. Also the batteries in kWh as well, so why not do all calculations in that unit as well? Neither is really a SI unit - that would be Joule or watt second.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
If you want smaller numbers, use kWh/km. In your example it will be: 0.33 kWh/km * 230 km = 75.9 kWh The only reason why car manufacturers still use kWh/100 km is because the fossil cars use this weird unit. And they are too lazy to switch to Wh/km unlike Tesla which is only making EVs.
@herkolubos
@herkolubos 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland but electric company sells you energy in kWh, because it would be a very small number, when it would be in Wh. For example in Czech Republic 1 kWh cost around 5kč, 1Wh would by like 0,005kč.... (1 NOK = 2,6kč). So it is better to count kWh per 100km. And capacity of battery is in kWh to, so when an EV show consumption 15kWh/100km and the baterry is 30kWh, you know quickly that you can drive max. 200km.
@aigarius
@aigarius 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Fractions are not small. Integer values under 10 are small, under 100 are okish. Having just a single significant digit is ideal. The point is mind math. That is the same reason why mpg is a bad measure - because it forces you to do division instead of much easier multiplication. Just because Tesla does something differently does not mean it is a good thing, like they invented their own connector and yet it is worse than CCS. Or invented not using rain sensor and use inferior camera based rain detection to save a dollar in parts.
@remylojo-petrovcic3911
@remylojo-petrovcic3911 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland So your old BMW 5 series measured its consumption in km/L? Otherwise kWh/100 km makes way more sense and it's implementation in basic innovation strategy theory. Research has shown that the majority of the population is more comfortable adopting new products/innovations that conform to existing "scripts" and "schemas" - assumptions, beliefs about a particular product/system. This goes back to the years of Thomas Edison and his electric light bulb. In this case kWh/100 km (or kg/100 km for FCVs) is a direct derivative of the standard L/100 km. So not every practical/functional aspect is arbitrary with EVs, it's also grounded in theory sometimes :). Here's a more detailed, though still brief explanation of the theory I'm referring to: www.lc-global-us.com/change-talk/robust-innovation-strategies-the-edison-effect/
@roland9367
@roland9367 5 жыл бұрын
Your example is exactly what is wrong with the /100km unit. Because you never drive somewhere that is exactly 100km or a multiple of that. So you have to calculate any way. So you could better have it per kilometer, or even how many kilometers per kWh
@hacekatze
@hacekatze 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Björn! Please provide us with a race of two cheap used EVs: i-miev vs. e-up! Greetings from Austria! Btw I drive an e-up!.
@Eb3nez3r
@Eb3nez3r 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a great watch :)
@stealthhack
@stealthhack 5 жыл бұрын
I have that car, it's fairly good at low speeds, not so in high speed run. Canion says it can run up to 130-150km. on slow roads, in summer.
@Rfhdvcgf
@Rfhdvcgf 5 жыл бұрын
Lol Mitsubishi 9byear old car has active cooling but Nissan is stupid and stubborn to include a proper active cooling 😂😂🤦‍♂️
@Prodigious1One
@Prodigious1One 4 жыл бұрын
For best efficiency, you have to keep the red needle in the Eco zone of the odometer and drive in Eco mode. You have to listen to the car and go as fast it wants naturally, thus don't push it. However if you're secure with enough range, then like you did you can speed in the car and have fun.
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 3 жыл бұрын
That and the aerodynamics dont help it much.
@tucsonor
@tucsonor 5 жыл бұрын
Almost same net capacity as my 2012 Leaf have now with SOH 78
@antoniocirino8444
@antoniocirino8444 5 жыл бұрын
The cells are lithium-Titanium, more stronger than other cells. And it can support fast charging over 2C without extreme degradation.
@miguelferrazcosta
@miguelferrazcosta 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 iOn (still with the standard 16kWh battery and C and B modes available) , and it's normal the quick charge stop about 80%, it's a feature, not a bug :p It's related to the charging speed in that percentage, if it drops, is not quite worth it using it relating on using a AC home charger.
@Smoje79
@Smoje79 5 жыл бұрын
Very popular car in Madrid (Spain) used in carsharing with the company Emov to drive in city center by Citroen (C-Zero) and has the same interior
@markrobbins293
@markrobbins293 5 жыл бұрын
**knock knock knock** - hard **knock knock knock** - hard **knock knock knock** - hard **knock knock knock** - SOFT! MMmmmmMM! hahaha. Bjorn, you are hilarious!
@manwithcorsae7738
@manwithcorsae7738 5 жыл бұрын
The design is even older as it is based on the ICE 'K' car that had a 600 cc engine. The original price for the iMiev was £23,500 in the UK back in 2012!!!! (oh yeah, the replacement battery would have cost £8000!!!)
@ulfverheyen
@ulfverheyen 5 жыл бұрын
18:54 Minutes. Great. He's gonna show the full range test in real time 😉
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 16 күн бұрын
Hey Bjørn you have to revisit the iMiEV and triplets to make a video on how they are ageing gracefully. Not only do they have active cooling they also have a decent self balancing function
@xaboa
@xaboa 5 жыл бұрын
In Hungary I don't have any problems with ABB chargers. Might be a software issue on the chargers. We had a few updates on AC chargers that made them not recognize a lot of cars, so you couldn't start charging, they are fixed now. Wondering if it could be the same on the Norwegian ABB chargers. If the fan is on during CHAdeMO charging, it means it is cooling the battery. (2011 Peugeot iOn from France, 35000km, 84% SOH)
@MrKeke2502
@MrKeke2502 5 жыл бұрын
That's rough degradation, my Peugeot Ion as about 70000 km and i'm at around 88% SOH.
@xaboa
@xaboa 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrKeke2502 it is. I bought the car around 8 months ago with 28000km (85% SOH) when it was 7 yrs old. I think that the previous owner didnt really take car of the battery. I do, and so I got almost no degradation since then, as well as my cell voltages differ less now compared to when I bought it. You know.... 28000km over 7 years is not much, I go further: too few km over that period of time.
@MrKeke2502
@MrKeke2502 5 жыл бұрын
@@xaboa I don't really take care of it either. Lots of DC fast charging sessions, lots of testing, even tested rapidgate by bringing cells to +50°C , I went on very long trips with multiple DC and highway driving ... And at current rate, and if the degradation is linear with the kilometers, I've estimated that I should be able to go at least 125 000 km before reaching 80% SoH. But the thing is, I live in Paris area and the climate is very good with electric car with most of the year averaging at around 20°C and the car is parked inside. It may have a significant impact. Also, I see when I fast charge that the cell 68 get much hotter than the rest of the pack, I guess it will be the first to fail but I've recently discovered a garage in Brittany which change triplettes cells for around 135€ each so I guess it's not gonna die soon. I also very much look forward to see people retrofitting bigger battery packs on those tiny cars, the form factor being ideal for me and I3 and Zoe being too expensive compared to my Ion
@Starcrow999
@Starcrow999 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very good! I'm a Citigo owner, and I'm currently waiting for Skoda to release the electric version. Hopefully the range is better than the e-Up.
@_a.z
@_a.z 4 жыл бұрын
They're brilliant!! Why did they ever stop making them?
@smithcasey9785
@smithcasey9785 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because they couldn't sell them. 23.000USD is too expensive for a tiny electric car like this. Moreover they were using GS-Yuasa batteries with a nominal energy density of about 100Wh/kg (the current batteries have a value about 270Wh/kg), and no other battery manufacturer produced similar cells for the car to be easily upgraded by Mitsubishi.
@STOP2NWO
@STOP2NWO 3 жыл бұрын
@@smithcasey9785 Casey, do you know if battery on those cars can be regenerated??
@АлексейЗ
@АлексейЗ 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@AB-yt4hd
@AB-yt4hd 5 жыл бұрын
The car is ugly, but it is cheap (I bought it second hand, so even cheaper). As it is boxy, you can load quite a bit inside when the back seats are lowered. It is nice as a commuting second car for short distances.
@NONAMEGTAV
@NONAMEGTAV 5 жыл бұрын
A B how is that car doing? I plan to buy one new , I live in norway and Im a little bit affraid about the range , because in the winter that range is going to drop a lot haha
@healcanjim4381
@healcanjim4381 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really care about this car but I like watching your videos
@NeverFollows
@NeverFollows 5 жыл бұрын
18:36 I think the wrong table was shown (was the noise level test, may be consumption was expected?)
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
+Gordini Nope, it was intended.
@Trades46
@Trades46 5 жыл бұрын
I have an Outlander PHEV and certain nuances like 80% stop (the car automatically cuts charging at ~80% always at DC fast chargers) & the ABB issue is also prevalent on my car. So definitely a Mitsubishi thing.
@berttroubleyn3475
@berttroubleyn3475 5 жыл бұрын
Kia Soul EV does the same thing.
@Deddily
@Deddily 5 жыл бұрын
Ouch, my ears! Thanks for the filter at the Tritium chargers :)
@CoolSilverWolf
@CoolSilverWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting car. It's ok for a small get around city driver. Good luck for banana box test. Funny for being so old it doesn't look any more outdated than some the other compliance cars. Those pass filters are nice. I can get rid of most the deep road noise with high pass filter.
@baardhaveland
@baardhaveland 5 жыл бұрын
Love this car! =D Got the 2012 edition as a "second car". Quickly ended up using it as the primary car, while the "primary" diesel is dusting away in the garage. Turns out living and working in the Oslo area doesn't require as much from your car as many would think. The iMiev looks weird, but it is the perfect car for driving in the city. You can squeeze thru traffic everywhere no matter how little space between other cars during rush hours. And you also have a ridiculous amount of parking spots to your disposal because people who prefer regular cars and SUVs, just... can't... fit.... It's hilarious to see them try, and then I just pop in when they give up. :) I've had the car for more than six years. The battery haven't lost a km yet. Still reaches 70-80 km during winter with the heater on low. During summer it takes me at least 100 km. Or even 120+ if I _really_ don't want to stop at the charger. Also, with the amount of money we've saved so far from not buying any gas or paying at the toll roads, it looks like the car will pay for itself within the next couple of years. And the best part? I can easily lose my drivers licence on most Norwegian highways with an iMiev _with_ a tumble dryer in the trunk. Try doing that with a Tesla Model 3! =D
@DeerKoden
@DeerKoden 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe not the most efficient...but still, you can find several of these used between 6500 and 9000 euros over Europe. Best thing happening to this car would be something like the add-on battery pack developed for the Leaf by the guy at the Muxsan project.
@anzonix
@anzonix 5 жыл бұрын
The charger has a button for choosing between 80% or max charge.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
+Anton It's set to 100 % by default.
@gregoryosullivan
@gregoryosullivan 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see a i-MiEV review. Is that a 2011 model? Post 2012 there are a few improvements, better cells in the pack, increased regen, extra regen on the start of the brake pedal travel. C mode has the least regen, depending on the road/traffic conditions you may get better range in D. In Australian summer conditions 120km range is possible at 90km/h versus about 100km for a 2010 model.
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
Gregory O'Sullivan he had text on screen saying it was 5 year old car.
@gregoryosullivan
@gregoryosullivan 5 жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 if it really was a 2014 car it would have had the extra regen via brake pedal feature. Wheels are different on 2012+ unless this one is running different rims for the winter tires.
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
Gregory O'Sullivan Biltema.no gives the following info based on the reg: Årsmodell:2015 Reg.dato:20141230
@derekl9702
@derekl9702 5 жыл бұрын
Man, those tiny circle liquid crystal displays. What is this 1984? Looks like an old calculator.
@Eb3nez3r
@Eb3nez3r 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but who would want a complex older car out of warranty :)
@stevencorrea7982
@stevencorrea7982 5 жыл бұрын
@@Eb3nez3r I got to electric cars this year 2015 smart traction pack gone. 2016 Kia soul traction pack battery gone. I will never buy a electric car without a warranty.
@vistaero
@vistaero 5 жыл бұрын
In Spain, this car costs the same as a 40kWh Nissan Leaf. It's embarrasing.
@atonduke7612
@atonduke7612 5 жыл бұрын
The noise from the Tritium chargers is very likely coil whine. And as it's audible I guess that they use a frequency below 200kHz. Also the 6kHz low pass filter blocking the noise means the frequency has to be above 6kHz.
@dhruvemital
@dhruvemital 5 жыл бұрын
"people say i'm a short asian, and asians say i am tall" 😂😂😂😂😂
@piotrgrzesik7870
@piotrgrzesik7870 5 жыл бұрын
"Figure it out yourself" :-D
@colincampbell3679
@colincampbell3679 5 жыл бұрын
This was the car I had 1st seen was a production electric car before I even was aware of EV tech? I liked the design and the fact it was electric. I thought that if I had the money I buy this car instead of a diesel or petrol version. But I never got the money to buy any car not even this EV? Shame that. I after many years of having a bicycle then a Moped I still could not afford any car. Maybe I will have a EV someday? Thanks for the video it all helps to know the range.
@westerp
@westerp 5 жыл бұрын
Only way you get the same consumption on a gen1 2012 Leaf is if you turn off the heater and with heating it does 220Wh/km in the same temperature I guess. My 2018 and probably earlier versions with heat pump will do about the same as the i-Miev in 90km/h on GPS.
@dondakin1
@dondakin1 5 жыл бұрын
btw I assume you did this test with the heat off ?
@LetsTakeWalk
@LetsTakeWalk 5 жыл бұрын
The Mitsubishi Mi-Ev line I find in design and pricerange attractive, but the range severely lacking.
@scaleaddicted
@scaleaddicted 5 жыл бұрын
I have been HAMMERED..., SHIEEEEET!!! Awesome
@Niggolaars
@Niggolaars 5 жыл бұрын
This car should get a successor. Same price (around 20k) and 250km range (~32 kWh). They should be able to double the capacity compared to 2013. The original cells just have a gravimetric energy density of around 100Wh/kg if I remember correctly. Shouldn't be a big deal. There are even bigger improvements in volumetric energy density. Also a CCS plug.
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we will need cheeaaaaap EVs , too! This with updated tech should be cheap-iah
@LarsDahlin
@LarsDahlin 5 жыл бұрын
Yay! I got the Peugeot version. Love it!
@LarsDahlin
@LarsDahlin 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and it fits two fully assembled Billy bookshelves from IKEA if you don't mind some part of it poking out of the car.
@BradleyTemperley
@BradleyTemperley 5 жыл бұрын
A fourth variant is the Mitsuoka Like with 5 seats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuoka_Like?wprov=sfti1
@karelschmidt5195
@karelschmidt5195 5 жыл бұрын
Has this car insulated heater? I asume it does as it is a must in Norway. The insulation of the electric resistive heater improved the winter range.
@sd6w7
@sd6w7 4 жыл бұрын
How do you do that? Any info?
@mwahlgreen
@mwahlgreen 3 жыл бұрын
It is not stock to be isolated.
@mwahlgreen
@mwahlgreen 3 жыл бұрын
Phil, I did mine with alufolie bubble wrap after a diesel heater was installed
@mravecsk1
@mravecsk1 5 жыл бұрын
The car is called like meow :D Even instrument cluster looks like cat...or mouse? :D
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Kitty 🐱. Mitsubishi DO have a sense of humour 😸
@MprivetM
@MprivetM 5 жыл бұрын
Hei Bjørn test the Buddy. I only see them in Norway.
@nonameHER0
@nonameHER0 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a range test with the Hyundai Nexo? Would love to see, how it performes in your tests!
@nonameHER0
@nonameHER0 5 жыл бұрын
@@scott8919 I know ;) In Oslo are several, also Bergen and Trondheim.
@eunu6928
@eunu6928 4 жыл бұрын
Can upgrade that 16kwh?
@laszlonagy2106
@laszlonagy2106 5 жыл бұрын
Design is not 9 years old... first Mitsubishi I (petrol version) started 2006! design is 13years old! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i
@weaponizedmaddness2700
@weaponizedmaddness2700 5 жыл бұрын
What Miles are on the car?
@TheGameCollector
@TheGameCollector 4 жыл бұрын
What is the range during winter with heating on like in -10 to -15 degrees Celcius? Would it go 70km?
@mwahlgreen
@mwahlgreen 3 жыл бұрын
No. Only if you add a diesel heater, can be done easily, and don't use the electric heater
@stevephillips7940
@stevephillips7940 3 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@tymanot
@tymanot 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see my very thirsty B250E in the list. Can you perform the BNEVTP? Björn Nyland Electric Vehicle Test Procedure. Once you are close to Hamburg I will lend you my car.
@Iba038
@Iba038 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a 1000 km test with it
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 Жыл бұрын
If he found an upgraded 30 kWh version it would be an interesting test.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 16 күн бұрын
​@@samusaran7317a lotta cheap and competitive mock cells coming from China, just in time for the political tariffs to kick in
@MrProooosit
@MrProooosit 5 жыл бұрын
Nice with little older electric car, hope to see Citroen Saxo Electrique and other older cars, it´s realy good to see older cars and that they can do.
@MayContainJoe
@MayContainJoe 5 жыл бұрын
The correct base unit for milage is J/m (joules/meter) = Ws/m. 1 kWh = 3,600,000 J. 100 km = 100,000 m So 1 kWh/100 km equals 36 J/m after removing the zeros. Now you have a handy unit, everything else is derived from it. :-)
@larsdoogle9240
@larsdoogle9240 5 жыл бұрын
Bjoern, could you do your range test with the Leaf 24 and 30kwh version? Afaik you did not do those yet
@MartinHornansky
@MartinHornansky 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I would like to ask whether anyone does not know where is located the horn and how to fix/change it in case it is not working. Thank you.
@stevemccormack9948
@stevemccormack9948 5 жыл бұрын
In many ways it was always an appealing little car. If only they could have fitted a bigger battery., say a 24Kwhr. But I remember this was wild expensive when it came out. It never really made sense economically. Still there are plenty of them around secondhand.
5 жыл бұрын
Slitghly too expensive second hand here in Sweden :(
@tomc9096
@tomc9096 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for filter.
@party-zn519
@party-zn519 4 жыл бұрын
Have you changed lev50 cells to lev65? bms sees 65Аh?
@databeestje
@databeestje 5 жыл бұрын
I can see it charge 100A at 360 Volts for 36kW. The fan will blow during charging when the battery is warm. I've had the fan stay off when the battery was at -5c, and also throttled speed. I do have a after market cruise control, which is really nice. The car design is actually from 2006, from the petrol Mitsubishi i, and it was retrofitted in 2010 with electrics. It gets me from a to b cheaply, dry, out of the wind and not entirely cold. The heater just isn't very good at all. I have the Openvehicles.com OBD device with 3G that sends battery status to the internet and gives me smartphone charging alerts on my Android phone. At 150 euro it isn't cheap, but it works really well. It show basic battery percentage and temperatures, as well as location and some charging history.
@k34561
@k34561 5 жыл бұрын
I still bet the back seat has more room then and airline seat.
@tsaranen
@tsaranen 5 жыл бұрын
I find kWh/100km is more convenient for me to calculate in my head but in the end it's easy just to calculate in one and multiply / divide to get the other. What I hate and don't understand is the American usage of Miles Per Gallon MPG since it's non linear relationship. with l/100km if you halve the figure you get twice the range with MPG you double the MPG you don't get twice the range as an example going from 12 to 18 MPG is a bigger saving than going from 20 to 26 MPG. Fortunately nobody is using km/kWh that I know of.
@Bliggity
@Bliggity 5 жыл бұрын
Did you happen to bump the brake pedal when it stopped?
@biska131
@biska131 5 жыл бұрын
You need to test electric Smart.
@MercedesAMGsRULE
@MercedesAMGsRULE 5 жыл бұрын
That charging sound is like a Renault Zoe
@tonyblackie3277
@tonyblackie3277 4 жыл бұрын
Am I missing something? What was the range in km please?
@countteddy
@countteddy 5 жыл бұрын
I love these cars, I want to get one as a companion for my ENV......
@Chukyka
@Chukyka 5 жыл бұрын
C mod is "coasting" mod not eco mod.
@Coasterfreak
@Coasterfreak 5 жыл бұрын
Test the Smart Fortwo Eq please !!!
@BarthiArgento
@BarthiArgento 5 жыл бұрын
My i-Miev always stopps charging at around 75%. The car is based on the Mitsubishi i which was produced since 2006. So, its a very old design. I hate that it doesnt have speedometer. And the "C" gear: I didn't find out yet whats the difference of "D"...
@Eb3nez3r
@Eb3nez3r 5 жыл бұрын
If it stops consistantly at 75% on a rapid then your battery is badly degraded. Cheers
@t8polestarcyan22
@t8polestarcyan22 2 жыл бұрын
This i-MiEV was based on i-Car which too didn't do well as we don't need a kei car. Having said that, I find this car suitable for my daily commute. We did have Mitsi iCar and test drove it. That car didn't do well on our turf so that's why I don't see the iMiev in person.
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 2 жыл бұрын
The battery upgrade can help with that ✌
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