How to MIX with BUSSES - The ONE THING you need to know (advanced)

[@emiliorodriguez6117]

There’s not many Cubase users on YT so thank you bro 🙏🔥

[@sammythebull116]

Greg Undo from steinberg make 2 times every week cubase hangout live stream You can ask live question he answer it live back Cubase is for professionals ☝️ So ofcourse less to find on youtube Anyways there is enough online 😎

[@TheMelodicMonkStudio]

@@sammythebull116 Exactly 😊

[@MatsDagerlind]

Losing the dry-wet relationship in the manner shown here IS an important thing to be aware of. But most of us probably are not, unless we-ve experienced strange things happening when moving the group fader, investigated it and eventually figured out why. I think there ought to be a smart feature in Cubase to sense and automatically adjust this relationship when moving a group fader. The reason for having e.g. a reverb on an effect bus is so that you can use it for many tracks wit the send feature. Routing the reverb bus to the group means you can't use that reverb for other stuff than the tracks routed to that bus. It's nothing wrong of course to have a dedicated reverb bus in this manner, as long as you don't forget and accidentally start using it for other tracks. If you only want reverb on the snare in a situation like this, perhaps it's better to put it as an insert on the snare track, but if you want reverb in different amounts on several of the drum tracks the previously mentioned way is better.

[@iceland_is_cool.]

Yes, you have more detailed control over the drum kit with this tecnique, many thanks.

[@mjbabyboy79]

This video has saved me hours of mistakes. I hardly move my group channel fader so that’s why I haven’t noticed this before. I will now have to change the way I work as I like to set up only a few effect channels, then use those as send in all my instruments. Thanks again I have learnt so much from you

[@RyansCustomShopandGearOutlet]

All of this went way over my head, but I'm digging in. Thanks for all your videos and advice!

[@sharonbaab3101]

Hi Chris, thanks for this video, I appreciate it. I have a suggestion: This video is meant for people that are learning production, mixing and Cubase. You are doing things in Cubase that I don't know how to do, it would help tremendously if you could just tell (or show on screen, like f.i.: shift+alt+ ...) how to do it (which shortcuts). F.i. @5:13 you start to couple two tracks together, but I don't know how you did this. This way we don't just learn about routing but also about Cubase and such. Thanks!

[@StepanTrnka]

So simply put and educational as usual. Thank you! I like how you switch to French when you say "parallel" ;-)

[@mixdownonline]

Lol, it's easier to pronounce ;-) Thanks Stepan!

[@beantownmusic3532]

Im glad I watched this, I learned something new today in mixing on FX routing, Thank you Chris!

[@brunoteixeira5912]

Thank you Chris, You rock man! Bless

[@DaveDickens]

Thanks Chris, I have been using Cubase for years as a home producer, since the Atari! But you have explained routing in a way I can get to grips with. Thank you.cheers Dave

[@thierry-VERET]

la vidéo avec Daniel Wyatt était super et j'ai retenu des trucs super intéressants que j'ai mis en pratique dès le lendemain et wwwwwoooooowwwwwww génial !!!!!! un grand merci à toi Chris !

[@Madrush1]

Thanks for the great tutorial! I'm struggling a bit it can be slightly a stupid question but where to put the bass into which bus? Like using 1 type of bass.

[@IronpandaZr0]

Chris, First off. Thank you for taking the time to make these tutorials! They have really helped me! I know this video is old but I am always confused with the mix bus vs. Stereo outs. In the video on mixing with busses you mention the group drums channel and the effect channel; both going out to the stereo outs for your session. Is that the mix bus or the actual stereo outs (generic routing point for tracks) I'm trying to make a template but I'm not sure where the group channels get routed to. help!

[@juvianchannel5044]

Gonna try some of it. Thank you chris

[@pajarodebarro]

Thanks a looot!!

[@varosolo78]

Great video!

[@OrthoBrit]

I didn't quite get what Daniel was explaining on the day, so this really helps to clarify it. Thanks a lot, Chris. The great new haircut clearly inspired you. Ha! :-)

[@ardakymaz9098]

Thank you so much, it worked so much for me

[@macman70BossGT]

You are the best Chris, loving your videos. I am learning a lot on Cubase. Thanks!

[@SouthYarraMan]

I think its important to remember to keep the aux buss effect at 100% wet and the source track send kept at zero (Center). The aux effect buss fader should control the amount of reverb + or -. The source track fader and its send control is going to alter the gain and the mix. So it will be necessary to have several aux busses for individual elements that you want to treat with the same reverb but with different amounts. One aux with one reverb might be useful if you want to send multiple elements to one reverb with its desired set of parameters. Multi-voices from a kit cannot have diffetent reverb depths and m.sec parameters from only one designated reverb aux track. You need a seperate aux effect fader to control the amount of effect Just as you do with paralell compression on a kit which affects one elememt or the whole kit as you dial it in. The gain reduction or increase is the problem on the source track faders and sends!! Your comments please Chris!

[@stvfoster7396]

Thanks CHRIS

[@davidandrews864]

Another excellent video. Thanks

[@theparkerilla7292]

When I use a Rear Bus channel I send my individual FX channel outputs into a FX Group Bus as I didn't want to introduce extra reverb and FX into the Rear Bus (especially if compressing the Rear Bus signal), as I thought that one of the aims of the Rear Bus technique was to add an extra layer of the (clean) solid foundation of the non-drum bus mix. I find by having a FX Group Bus that I have more control over what levels of FX & Reverb I am sending into my Mix-bus channel. I say this as I noticed you had a Rear Bus in your mix setup (and with two sends from the Instrument and Vocal buses?).

[@keimaari]

I was juuuuust talking about this and I was wondering if I was doing something wrong. Then this video pops up lol thanks for this!

[@mixdownonline]

Glad I could help!

[@gospelmuvgospelmuv]

I love you Chris. Thanks for sharing again. Cheers!!

[@mamutjo]

very useful thanx a lot

[@bennygrenz]

Hey, thanks so much for your videos!! I have a quick question: Why do you have an extra ST OUT Group in addition to the regular Stereo Out Channel?

[@pjdahmen]

Great tutorial and I like it

[@jimbaker2565]

Mix template is great, load better than one I had

[@eddieclassic]

Once again thanks!!!!!!

[@starsandguitars2050]

Thank you Chris. You're super!

[@dunal74]

Thank you

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome

[@mrbeats7434]

thanks man

[@ShaNadapuram]

Sir.. which is better to use as send - reverb and delay (vocal channel)blue or yellow ?i mean post fader or pre fader ? Thank you

[@madmuso5]

If you wanted to compress the entire drum kit how would you do that. Insert a compressor on the far left drum buss (the one left of the fx) or insert it on your other main drum buss on the right (which also has the drums fx returns routued to it)?

[@YagosProd]

Thanks for the video ! Does the ST OUT channel, which you reffered as mix bus, is just a regular group channel where you route all of the channels to ? And why is that ? Why not leaving the stereo out as mix bus?

[@VintiqueSound]

Came here to ask this, also I wasn't clear on why there's a group track for all the drums which is then sent to the MIX DRUMS bus, seems like the same type of extra group track.

[@MoonhareStudio]

Thanks for this. Been using your mix template for a couple of years now and this has really given me a new insight into those buss and fx relationships. Now to check out the mixing mistakes vid.

[@acmebrandinc]

Hi Chris, thank you for the Awesome content...My Question is, I see you Rendered your KICK,Toms,snare & HH as Stereo..can you please explain why? what's the Advantage? I 'm old School and cant wrap my head around making a mono instrument stereo.I get the overheads (assuming you used 2 mikes)..Thanx for any explanation...

[@mitiasmirnovmusic]

Just a thought but would another option be to just lower the send rather than the return channel the same amount of decibels as the drum group? 🥁

[@darrenbrook4641]

Hi Chris, great video. The instrument tracks could be anything, guitars, pianos, individual drum tracks. Something I question is if I have, for example, three instrument tracks (audio or VSTi) that all belong to a logical group, say “Synths”, then I might create a group track and then route all three to that track. Now, let’s say I have a common reverb on an fx track that I am using to allow the instruments to share the same reverb space. So I’ll send from each instrument track (post-fader) to the fx track. Each of the instrument tracks will have different fader levels, and I might have lower send levels on one or more of the instruments. So this way, if the fader is moved, the relationship between that and the send is maintained. But now on the Synths group track, I want to apply some balance to the group. So I might apply very light compression or dynamic eq. This then changes the tonal balance but it might also increase or decrease the volume. This is the problem, as the changes are not reflected in the reverb. That is, the sounds being processed via the reverb sends are now not sonically the same as the changed dry sound on the Synth group track. I can’t use a send on the synth group track, as each instrument requires a different send level. And I don’t want to have lots of extra instances of the same reverb plug-in - especially when it’s supposed to be a common space. I can’t take the reverb and route it into the synth group track, as that reverb is also used for other instruments. I also don’t necessarily want to have the reverb also going into the compressor on that group channel. So what is the correct way to deal with this?

[@Andy_Chung]

Hello Darren! Did you find any solution? I'm thinking about this problem lately, too.

[@douglashazelrigg4377]

Q: if you need to adjust the level of one drum, can you simply adjust the reverb send to mainatin the direct-effect balance?

[@mcsweet1966]

THANK YOU That video helped a lot to clarify some questions that a lot of us were still confused about. You also talked about Reference, I was under the impression that references were only used in Mastering so I bought (ADPTR Metric AB) but I would like to know witch tracks do you use personalty ? Thanks again for the GREAT work you do :)

[@StayFunKey]

Maybe you can also shine a light on the different possibilities of output routing of fx tracks. For instance; do you send the output of a snare reverb to the stereo out or is it preferable to send it to the drummix bus. 🤔 Hope to hear from you 👍🏻😀

[@mixdownonline]

Hope the video helped you out on this

[@joek2904]

I always wondered if the fx should go to the group bus or the stereo out. Thanks chris!

[@StayFunKey]

@@mixdownonline yes it did, thx

[@mcadder]

Thank you for another great video. How do you get a separator between your tracks and your groups (in the mixer)? Greetz from Sweden!

[@Mathias_Berntsson]

Hi Chris! One question. When you have send all your audio and fx channels to buses for ex drums, guitars and vocol and anything else. Can you get only the buses in the mixwindow to get a better overview. Not delete anything else just hide from view?

[@marwanabed6508]

Thanks . Very nice

[@lahattec]

I found it really interesting to see the CLA course on Slate' training site, where he did the mix without a single sub bus.

[@matthewcollis3780]

Thanks...is there a way if i pan a track it will automatically copy the panning on the group bus or effect bus? I noticed when soloing an effect channel when I pan a channel routed to that track it does not change the pan balance of the bus channel ...is there a way to link them?

[@SteveCarr-AB]

Thank you Chris for the video. I use subgroups and "Q-Link" when making such adjustments in Cubase. What is the advantage of adding a VCA fader channel when you can "option click" those specific mixing board channels and "Quick Link" them in Cubase? Thanks again, Steve

[@theparkerilla7292]

I prefer keeping the Quick Link active so I can easily select multiple channels to link on-the-fly. The VCA faders are OK but I get overwhelmed if there are several in the mix rack.

[@Am6-9]

VCA faders are useful if you want to automate them. It’s easier to write and modify automation data one one track than on multiple

[@SteveCarr-AB]

​@@Am6-9 Thank you - I know that Cubase VCA faders can be automated and understand what that allows. I thought that maybe VCA faders had some other type of advantage. I guess such mix options come down to an engineer's choice of workflow depending on the circumstances. In my situation, unless a client asks for it, I don't automate things until after the mix has settled in - i.e. the complex routing and level relationships like the snare drum's relative reverb level have stood the test of time of multiple tracking sessions which included numerous mix adjustments. By that point in a project, if any such mix "tweak" is needed, I just Q-Link the channels - or even simpler: adjust the snare reverb send by the same relative amount that the drum subgroup was adjusted. That only requires two mouse click and drags. That is also a better way to do things for me because I often send other instruments and vocals to the short and long reverb plugins that I also use for the snare. On the other hand, using a VCA as described in the video (snare-reverb levels) requires having a dedicated reverb, setting up the VCA group, opening the VCA automation lane, inserting the automation points, lassoing them and then adjusting them. If a snare-reverb level needs to be automated multiple times during a mix, I believe that simply automating the reverb send level on the snare track would be the best option. As the saying goes: "All roads lead to Rome" (some just take longer or have more bumps in them depending on your situation : - )

[@J-DUB-F1]

Now with this new knowledge, I have to go back and change alllll my templates!!😱 😉😏👍

[@mixdownonline]

Go for it!

[@J-DUB-F1]

@@mixdownonline i shall....not like I don't have any time on my hands 😉 It'll be fun to see how differently my mix process responds to the changes.

[@lucianogm]

great vídeo chris! can i somehow link the drums group fader to the snares reverb level send?

[@mullewap6670]

Chris, what do you use a rear bus for? I noticed. Are you still simulating a room in front of the material exit?

[@lucianogm]

great vídeo chris! yours samples and overhead tracks received the same routing and treatment as kick, snare and toms tracks? would you for example not pararell compress samples?

[@lancemezh6345]

Kind of confused on the last part. So if you ever want to change the balance you will only change the dry kick & snare fader and every send/bus post fader will remain in tact? Am I missing something? My mixing has become halted due to this. When I get a good balance with the original channels I send every element into a respective bus. I further process these busses and am left with a loud track. My first instinct was to mix the 5 busses, but every time I touch them I feel the balance is thrown off. Should I be going back to the original channels and can I keep the bus fx I placed ?

[@filipjonathan]

So what are the advantages of VCAs and what of BUSSes?

[@gary7715]

Can you widen the group and vca track on the track screen or is it set mine won't widen its to small

[@TonyRaybeats]

why when I turn down my instrument bus all the way I can still hear the reverb? unless I mute the reverb fx channel. or mute the instruments directly on there individual channels, is that normal ? seems like is not right?

[@Tsietsithelele]

Hi Chris, Donald here. Maybe this is a little off topic but here goes nothing. I have Addictive Drums 2 and Groove Agent 5, I want to use a drum kit in addictive drums but I love the hi hat in Groove agent. How do I make this work so that the room mic in addictive drums works well with the hi hat in Groove agent?

[@nk1000]

Hi Chris! Would you share this Cubase template please?

[@marstudios7879]

Thank you Chris for the great lesson. One question, How can I automate a wahwah guitar effect in Cubase Pro 10?

[@saltyproductions3135]

When I'm adding an FX channel & to make sends to my guitar it plays in clean tone & with distortion. I don't have Direct Monitor on my audio interface. How do I stop this? I cannot work out why it is doing both & also then if I mute the effect track all the guitar still plays & in full clean tone. I'm confused why it is doing this. Also all sends are on.

[@mixedbydense]

hey chris , i hope you are staying safe at home ! chris can you tell that Realtime Peak is the Only Cubase's issue or its a issue of every daw ? my cubase is stucking at Realtime peak with Huge mixing sessions ! can you please explain where is the problem ! even i am mostly using uad plugins ! still cubase is stucking ! using CUBASE PRO 10.5.20 - Macbook pro , Core i9 Latest 16inch model ! SSD 16GB !

[@riffer-t]

I just need to know how to make a proper guitar bus. any advice? cubase elements 11

[@mixdownonline]

You create a Group Channel (Stereo) and you route the output of your guitar channels into this Group Channel :-)

[@TuttiFruttiYasya]

Strange, but even signing up to the mixdownonline, I haven't received anything. Maybe it's just because I am a happy owner of Chris's premium Mix course..Chris?

[@xlysabj]

Clicked on this one cuz of the beard!

[@fredericascherfeld7595]

Salut Chris ! Je me demande a chaque fois, pourquoi dans ta template les envoi sends sont tous à 1.95 ???

[@voodoochili12]

Why wouldn't you put a plugin that has a mix control directly on the snare track?

[@contraspower6302]

🙏🔥

[@Ninosmusic]

Thank you Chris for these pro tips! you saved my life. Unrelated question: If you were in a scenario where you had no other option than to mix your track with those Beyerdynamic headphones, would you rely on/trust them?

[@RITESHGANDHISTRINGS]

Hey chris, can I have SKYPE session with you, had quite some questions which is not possible to put here as would request some elaborate explanations

[@HarrellEngineDyno]

What does VCA stand for?

[@mixdownonline]

Voltage Controlled Amplifier

[@soundhannes]

Hi Chris, I was working on my Cubase Template a few days ago and was facing an advanced Problem. Cubase provide you in general during routing to create feedback loops. This is in general a good thing. But sometimes I will create a feedback loop for some reasons. E.g. To control the feedback for a delay the old way, with the AUX like on an analog desk ore to use Vance Powells Delay Trick he was showing on PureMix last Week. Is there a setting ore Trick that I don´t find to avoid the “feedback guard” in some situations? And I´m totally aware what I will do und know the “danger” I´m way over 21 😉 Thanks, Th_H

[@overdriven56]

Why most of your tracks are stereo? Stereo snare, kick and on?

[@evanmcgregor3758]

Hi Chris, just letting you know that I think you misread the question. They wanted an in-depth video about rooting, not routing.

[@ohabianrecords1150]

why u use vca for leveling the drumkit group + fx(s)? why not just make another bus and route the drumkit group + the fx(s) into it and work with the fader to leveling em, name it 'drumkit group + fx(s) bus) and then route it to ur MIX DRUM bus?

[@EveStorm93]

Can someone tell me whats that machine behind him?😭😭

[@saltdroid]

I hear a mouse @11:03

[@buddyquaid2038]

Kind of lost when you dont use a DAW that most are familiar with. I have no idea what I'm looking at.

[@Da4mula]

I watched 2* 21sec ads for this 🙏

[@awsgaming7578]

You are the one who need to be the face to show cubase in steinberg and not this gay with his lettel head and egliy big mouth and he only reed manual and show it in vedio , i am switching from steinberg to other daw becous of him , how show how the steinberg not serius company any more and only hiering clowns . We love u man keep it up

[@zian3694]

video starts at 1:25 , He is speaking sh*t to waste your valuable time before that.

[@mixdownonline]

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[@zian3694]

@@mixdownonline sorry, I became rude, My mix wasn't sounding loud enough, it was clipping, after 6 hours of experiments when I didn't get the desired results I checked out some help from youtube , I found you, but after 1 minute I lost my patience. You are doing a great job. I am guilty for the comment, I made.

[@theproone8674]

Mr chris you speak 95% and practical 5% we are not here to listen to your speech please watch featherlightstudio's videos and do the same ....

[@mixdownonline]

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[@ghostbirdmike]

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