MIXING LORNA SHORE "To The Hellfire" VOCALS w/ Josh Schroeder

Josh Schroeder mixes Will Ramos' insane vocals in "To The Hellfire" by Lorna Shore using the raw multi-tracks
Get instant access to Lorna Shore multi-tracks and Josh Schroeder's full mixing session ► nailthemix.com/...
NAIL THE MIX is an online mixing school created by Joey Sturgis, Joel Wanasek and Eyal Levi - the guys who produced bands like TDWP, Chelsea Grin, Blessthefall, Machine Head, Monuments, Miss May I, Of Mice & Men, Reflections, Born Of Osiris, Asking Alexandria and dozens more of this generation's best metal bands.
Every month, NAIL THE MIX members get exclusive access to the REAL MULTI-TRACK SESSIONS from a REAL ALBUM, and a 6-8 hour live streaming class from the producer who mixed it. These are the actual sessions by bands like Gojira, Meshuggah, Periphery, Papa Roach, Machine Head, Bring Me The Horizon, A Day To Remember and more - and NTM is the only place in the world you'll get access to them!

[@URMAcademy]

Get this session: nailthemix.com/lornashore

[@jackclay9145]

who else came here just to hear Will’s raw vocal stems lol

[@Daniel-vu4qu]

Shame we didnt really get them..

[@cjs.xt4]

sorta got em

[@fbi1867]

I have them in drop box all of them

[@dertnap]

@@fbi1867 surely ;)

[@fbi1867]

@@dertnap I do if you don’t believe me I can give you the link on social media

[@boychris1947]

lol at the compressor on the voiceover at the end of every sentence

[@rubysoffner4557]

Who doesn’t love hard gating 😆

[@graysonbergquist]

Lol yes it was bothering me too

[@jxscene760]

I was thinking the same hahahaha

[@lordberly]

too short release? 😅

[@MediaBoy13]

Josh is easily my favourite engineer, I could watch him all day

[@ayeapprove]

love the custom track icon in Reaper haha

[@davidasher22]

That is so cool. Is that an actual picture of Will?

[@lowdownloser7887]

The compressor sounds like he's breathing backwards

[@xluciferlux]

Great video and insight into the production!!

[@jxscene760]

There is so much going on with these vocals.

[@samprowell8946]

We just started a band and are tracking our first song and all of this mixing and mastering stuff scares me. I’m using fl studio and it’s like a second language

[@monkeyclub2100]

Please mix the vocals louder! We need more!

[@nutzer1337]

agree, the vocal line is too much in the background so cant really hear it in the car. in the car i listen to the one take playthrough because you can hear the vocals better.

[@jordanliles7256]

That doubler is putting in work

[@nyocx]

insane on the chorus

[@CoredusK]

It's chugs. It's chugs!

[@xAlphaRob]

This is interesting, Will's a beast

[@CJFripp]

love to see reaper and stock plugins 💪

[@baileybayer9462]

This FIRES me up!!!!!!!

[@davidasher22]

Wow! I like the real picture track icon. Is that actually Will or just stock image?

[@ninjaravioli]

Its Will

[@juanjefff22]

Okay... so lets name the tracks on the session... prepro... Okay... MT POWER 2... yeah... ＣㄩＣＫ... yeah, very important... Oh! Don't forget about the GOOF's!

[@ryanzimmermaniii503]

If Golem was a singer......

[@selmics]

What is that track icon he is using?

[@djabthrash]

custom

[@kriatura682]

steve terreberry all serious and stuff..

[@heavyslept4531]

all cool, but what the fuck is this MT POWER 2 mixtrack doing there lmao, did he really used this shitty drum sampler on final mix, or did he just put it there for memes lmao (9:36 lower left corner)

[@jackclay9145]

tbh i wouldn’t doubt it hearing the mix lmao even tho they have an insane drummer, tbh i use to try and make it goal to never spend money on plugins and work 100% freeware and over the course of about a year or 2 i endlessly edited the MT Power 2 kit and kinda made it sound close to the fat and open snare sound i was going for, kinda desthcore/beat down style it was pretty dope. the biggest issue is the kicks and toms are annoying to edit

[@adamdemicco]

we used MT Powerkit for demo drums it isn't in the full mix.

[@PhlegmBoHiggins]

@@adamdemicco loved your riffs on the 4 levels of deathmetal gave Dean a bit of a hard time lol

[@king-breaker]

Bad choice to have him scream through a distortion pedal for the first introduction of Will. Almost lost a fan at first 8 seconds of the song. I skipped the track at first listen. You can't go from CJ to a guy screaming through a guitar pedal and expect to keep a fan. Just saying.

[@skillZ141]

pfff so much distortion xD

[@TheKierensaysmaybe]

Are... there lyrics? It's so layered and hyper saturated it's nigh unintelligible. Sounds fkn brutal af however, but yeah.

[@DigitalDemonForge]

yes sesssion forlder has whooping 10 layers mixed into one powerful we all know from bvideo or albums.10 to make this one .comparing it to one or two takes of otehr vocalsists i dont rate it as high as others as it relays heavily onj processing to be as it is on album anyone who ask me i upload foplder with ghelfire vocs folder for them so theyc an see for them self/

[@Syhrzev]

If you can’t understand the lyrics that’s a you problem and need to train your ears😭

[@PrantoKoX]

Very clear and detailed explanation and evidently a lot of work in that production, but... that hypersmashed vocal track, looking like it went through an overabused TC Finalizer, makes most of what is being added on here either redundant or mostly ineffective, and should raise as many eyebrows as the very audible hard gating on the speaker's voice - both are pretty bad practice, technically speaking. Can be an artistic choice, though! To each their own, but should be pointed out that as an "Academy" (??) this is NOT to be taught as an example of "How things are done", more like exceptions. Interesting ones, perhaps, but both pretty weird things to do.

[@LostSinceSundayBand]

Did not know you where a famous music producer! Why listen to them

[@PrantoKoX]

@@LostSinceSundayBand Fame has nothing to do with anything (plus, one could e.g. be famous in Africa but unknown in Australia, so it's relative), my observations were about some logical and very evident technical/sonic aspects in this video. And yes, producing is my job. I watch whatever I want, just as you do - in this case, I watched a well explained video of an interesting and complex production of a very specific genre. And I used the "comments section" to do exactly what it's meant for: comment. Doesn't have to be a fanclub, you see.

[@edunogues23]

@@PrantoKoX spot on

[@eyeslikeoceans]

No one is telling anyone that this is the way to do things. URM lets great producers do their own thing and simply explain how and why they do it. I love seeing weird shit because I take what I like and learn from it.

[@brendangibson8200]

There are no hard rules in production and mixing music

[@rubysoffner4557]

Sorry to say, but he sounds like a smurf. Sounds like his screams and growls are done in his throat instead of from his sternum/chest. Sounds incredibly silly and naff and that is probably why his vocals needs a lot of distortion and compression to sound good. I prefer how ‘traditional’ death metal guys were/are doing it. Having said that, very clear explanation of the process and definitely helps in my own workflow

[@airlzzy]

HARD disagree, but to each their own

[@jeremiahculver2776]

It certainly a style. If his vocals did sound like traditional death metal,this band wouldn’t sound the same/ not the same identity. I think why people like his vocals so much is all the pitch manipulation stuff he does with his voice

[@deadlydarklord666]

i believe true art growth in every aspect neither the vocal technique or the production value, depending on what we needed

[@sevn9562]

No vocals you do come from your sternum or chest, all of the distortion comes from your throat. People will say they feel it in their chest but that isn’t how the sound is actually made

[@CyclesAreSingularities]

no, screams just sound shit without processing.

[@emiliano9321]

Incredible production. Not sure about the Diarreah Metal genre though.

[@Kevin-fu4nc]

please explain first your "shit" spelling and then your arguement. I'd like to hear what you have to say sir.

[@mimito1727]

womp womp

[@elcagondevoxer7473]

awfull vocals, sorry.

[@appEWsPoebony]

Ok, where's yours?

[@adviceondying]

Its ok. Dont be sorry. Im curious. Whos a good example of a great vocalist for you?

[@Daniel-vu4qu]

@@adviceondying He's probably going to say Chester 😂

[@JTguitarlessons]

He's worrying about your opinion all the way to the bank

[@elcagondevoxer7473]

@@JTguitarlessons However, these guys are more concerned than I am about a simple opinion.

[@zomielastaroth4956]

Insane vocals? No so awful vocals. So bad I can't stop laughing. Impossible to take serious. Would probably fit better as a qute monster in the next Disney movie. If this is the future of the metal genre I don't want to hear it.

[@852aaron]

good, the future of metal doesn't need ya :) imagine clicking on a deathcore vocal mixing video just to tell the people you dont like deathcore vocals. the internet is wild

[@JTguitarlessons]

Lol are you aware that this guy is signed and paid to do this? He totally doesn't need your validation. There's a fanbase that will pay to see him with or without you.

[@DigitalDemonForge]

@@JTguitarlessons theres lies pimp online and money involved thatl;ets him relay on heavily processing .signed paid..whatever.hellfire session has 1o takes separates to mkake one u know.sp[eaks tones for anyone who has some mix basics. why i say liesCAUSE I THINK ITS NOT FAIR TO CLAIM "ONE TAKE "WHEN U MADE OF TEN OF THEM ;')SAME GOES TO Courthey FROM SPIRIT BOX U KNOW HOW MNAY MAINS IS IN HER MIXFORDER ?9 TAKES OF MAIN VOCS PLUS PUNCHLINES EXCTRAS AND FXED PARTS WHICH rounds up to 29 just vocal layers :@)one take !"reddit helfire vocs download vocals see for ur self ...

[@midnightskyofficial]

Shit everyone, Zomiel Astaroth says he doesn’t like it. Guess we gotta remove the song off all platforms

[@vicesquadpunk]

I am waiting for some vocal mixing and engineering examples using singers who have the melody, timbre and passion of Freddie Mercury, Steve Perry, Miles Kennedy, Aretha Franklin, Anne Wilson etc etc... this is just a racket TBH mates... soon to be forgotten alongside techno music etc.

[@JTguitarlessons]

Going strong for nearly 15 years now, pal. But you keep hanging on to the 70's and do your thing.

[@noname-ng6sj]

HAHAHHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS COMMENT?!?!?!?

[@GreasyDaddy]

Boomer

[@user-xs4rm1ti8f]

Ok boomer

[@anthonytenkku43]

This is a style of music thats been evolving and progressing since the late 80s my guy. But yeah, its on its way out..........sure.