Mixing Our Own Methanol 50/50 Injection Blend For Our Snow Performance Kit!

[@jayadams5529]

Great video and awesome job of pouring that 5 gal jug without making a mess. They sell 5 gallon jug metal pumps at just about any auto body supply store, might make it easier for you next time.

[@GoatRopeGarage]

I bought a 5 gallon fuel jug to mix in next time, maybe it won't wobble as much, lol!

[@everetttice3946]

I just use 3 GL methanol to 2 GL water. Which is a 54/46 mix. Since methanol has a tendency to absorb water anyway.

[@jessebrown2077]

Wouldn’t 3:2 be the same as 6:4 meaning 60/40?

[@kingofthanorth]

Glad I get this stuff for free at work

[@ryanfreebird1982]

If I have a tuned vehicle while I need to return this truck with the mechanical injection kit?

[@james10739]

I know methanol is better and i know just water will lower temps and reduce knock so i was wondering if using e85 50/50 mix makes sense

[@RCExcusion]

Youngstown oxygen. Didn't know you were in my area. Also first video I found of ya but I'll be sure to look for more

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Yep, that's where I get my nitrous!

[@thomasjohnson1142]

Great job brother if it was me I would probably catch fire like Ricky Bobby

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Save me Oprah Winfrey!

[@DocJonesPW]

first, goat rope garage i have learned all my tuning from you and i thank you. my problem lies here. i have a heads and cam ls1 m6 that was original tuned off narrow bands once i got my wide band and hp tuners i began working, but before adjusting the car was lean everywhere before power enrichment was enable. i spent hours tuning the VE and MAF tables correctly. everything was flawless the AFR was practically perfect. once i enabled closed loop the LTFT was -10 at idle and taking away fuel until power enrichment was enabled. but in wot it is perfect all fuel trims drop to zero. but this is my problem. with open loop forced enabled the AFR is great all across the board but once i enable closed loop the long term fuel trims lean out my motor. i am beginning to think the slightly aggresive cam is throwing off the narrowbands. so is there anyway to adjust the narrow band stoich or should i just run open loop all the time with dynamic airflow?

[@georgesantizo4033]

So that blend gets warm after you mixed it?

[@digitalbilly]

cheaper way is by using a product labeled as "methyl-hydrate" from homedepot its 99.9% Methnol!!! Mix with distilled water by weight!!! 50/50 mix or whatever ratio you want!

[@KillJD]

That's what I plan on doing lol

[@stevenbradshaw6619]

128oz/gal = 71.5oz methanol, 56.5oz distilled water

[@FKfilmphotography]

Great video. Can one mix up a whole batch of bottles and just use them as and when. Meaning is a 50/50 mix ok to leave on the shelf for some time?

[@A________]

Did you get the answer ? I have the same question .

[@topspeed2500]

@@A________ so me, have the same question!!

[@tbsc7003]

I use 2.25 liters of methanol and 1.75 liters of water..not sure what the weight ratio of that is though...

[@topspeed2500]

i’m mixing 5 liters distilled water to 4 liters Methanol, is that ok?? does this blend help more in cooling and make the blend not flammable??

[@Turbo4Joe363]

Good video.....never thought about volume vs weight when mixing a lighter alcohol with heavier water! What does Snow recommend....50/50 w/w or 50/50 v/v ? I don't have a scale, so if Methanol weighs @ 6 lbs per gallon and Water weighs @ 8 lbs per gallon....using just volume to mix it.... 4 gallons of methanol with 3 gallons of water equals @ 50:50 by weight.

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Think they do their mix by weight, and your math looks good to me!

[@davisrs1]

@@GoatRopeGarage Boost Juice is 49% methanol and 51% water by volume It has to be this composition to be regarded as a non-flammable liquid to comply with federal laws regarding the shipping of flammable liquids.

[@topspeed2500]

how long i keep the mixture in the tank while not using the car?? on other meaning, should i drain the tank and re-fill it with new quantity? or i use the old one?

[@reconbullet5449]

I kept 50-50 mix in my car for month's and when I used it after 4 months my car went into limp mode. Drained the old methanol from tank and poured in fresh 100%. Car is running smooth and no breakup

[@scottprimeau9325]

Nice!

[@Boostlee2023]

Oh I’ve got a nice scale.. 🤫

[@salaciouscreations4323]

Does the methanol still burn? I came across this video looking for how to make methanol last longer. As I want it for a heater

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Negative, this puts it in an inert stage

[@4BillC]

Finally purchased my Snow 2.5 meth kit! Can't wait to see if it will perk up my little shitbox!

[@keepnitsharp]

I just ordered mine. Have you enjoyed it or had any issues you have had to work through?

[@4BillC]

@@keepnitsharp only issue was getting it to prime. Prime it without the check valve. Other than that it is fantastic! I put it on a 2001 Audi A4 1.8T, turbo is bigger than stock but still small. Intake temps during normal driving when it's 80°F+ will hang out around 100, as soon as I get get into it temp fall by 30-40°! Stock hp is 170 and I'm currently pushing between 240-260hp and right about 300 torque, based off GPS vs weight info. I've tuned it myself but never put it on a dyno so...

[@keepnitsharp]

@@4BillC I am installing mine on my 2020 F150 w 3.5 EB. 5 star tuning is revising my tunes for the W/M kit.

[@keepnitsharp]

@@4BillC what mixture/ratio are you using and are you mixing it yourself?

[@brianmarston5590]

Methanol is clear in color once I mix the distilled water in it turns white/ milky color is that normal?

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Yes!

[@junpakaplog69]

Is distilled drinking water ok to mix with methanol?

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Yes, that's what I use

[@junpakaplog69]

@@GoatRopeGarage thank you very much. Doin it on a turbo diesel.

[@willardarmbruster8111]

So what's not flammable? 49% methanol by volume or 49% methanol by weight? Or both?

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Not sure, I'll have to test it and find out

[@topspeed2500]

@@GoatRopeGarage waiting for your feedback👍🏻

[@Antimatter.]

Thanks for sharing , can you run 100% methanol rather than mixing it ? Is there benefits ?

[@Kerionite]

Running 100% methanol is not only dangerous but also reduces the benefits of the cooling effect on the intake air charge. Methanol burns with a practically invisible flame and at concentrations above 50% it becomes flammable.

[@Antimatter.]

@@Kerionite Thank you !!!

[@reconbullet5449]

I run 100% meth. But my motor is built

[@rosslawrence4628]

What did the 5 gallon jug of methanol cost you?

[@GoatRopeGarage]

$40

[@davisrs1]

FYI! Boost Juice is 49% methanol and 51% water by volume It has to be this composition to be regarded as a non-flammable liquid to comply with federal laws regarding the shipping of flammable liquids.

[@salaciouscreations4323]

So this mix isn't flammable then? Just looking for a way to make my methanol heater fuel last longer

[@davisrs1]

@@salaciouscreations4323 It's the Government who feels they need to set a standard! In real life, depending upon ambient temperature mixtures above about 20% will burn, though poorly and run out of fuel quickly.

[@salaciouscreations4323]

@@davisrs1 yeah I was looking at methanol for heating I get engines will have compression lowering the flash point. I tried water mixes to increase the burn time with flames and found 1:2 H2O / meth smaller flame same burn time and 2:1 burns for ages but no heat.

[@davisrs1]

@@salaciouscreations4323 Yup! for your purposes, only the methanol is fuel. The water can be a carrier, but the high heat of vaporization cools the flame to the extent that it vaporizes. We want to cool that gasoline flame and create extra vapor to push the pistons in an engine.

[@salaciouscreations4323]

@@davisrs1 thank you for taking the time to reply. And in a way I understand. With the cooler burn the engines max temp isn't reached sort of like undervolting a pc to get a higher clock speed as it can turbo further than stock as more thermal head room to wiggle in.

[@brantleycombs4063]

I don’t have any experience with methanol so this is probably a dumb question but can someone gain horsepower using methanol On a naturally aspirated engine?

[@GoatRopeGarage]

You can because it creates a cooler, denser air charge and you can run more timing, but that's not always guaranteed to net more power

[@brewmaster4two]

@@GoatRopeGarage I was going to ask the same question. Thanks for the answer Kyle! Just an N/A setup for me, so probably not worth it.

[@crankshaft007]

Problem is, your NA would need some sort of engine tuning software to adjust A/F. If you don’t then you will loose HP. But right off the batt when he says wash fluid my confidence drops as dyno results show WWF is a myth that doesn’t work. With out real world dyno runs showing effects it’s all hearsay. Lots of people giving bad advice

[@josuebut22]

better 50/50 or 70/30

[@gretre4560]

Depends. I'm using a 80/20. I use 5-1 to get 80/20 by weight

[@MALR7]

Will pure meth have a better performance ? The idea of injecting water into the engine gives me a weird feeling

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Yeah, but it's pretty dangerous due to a low combustion temperature

[@ssoffshore5111]

I've played with mixes over the last 10 or more years. Straight meth works best. It is much more combustible but it's no longer flammable once diluted with 50% water or more. For that reason, I always run straight meth in my SC vette and TT Viper, but use a dedicated small fuel cell in the cars for safety.

[@GoatRopeGarage]

Good idea on the fuel cell

[@Irtofu]

You do know your ratio is not 50/50 right? If you taken a basic chemistry class, you would know the density of water and methanol are not the same. Poor method equaling out the two parts.

[@GoatRopeGarage]

That's why we do it be weight... We want a 50/50 blend based off weight, which is determined by the specific gravity of the product.

[@BMWHOBO]

​@@GoatRopeGarage I was questioning the same thing as the original post. You added 2lbs 11oz of meth and then 2lbs 11oz of water (unless i missed something), i don't believe that's 50/50 by weight. 50/50 by weight for 1 gallon would be 56.5oz of water and 71.5oz of meth, if my calculations are correct based off of other information sources. EDIT: Having listened to several parts of the video again, i think possibly you are shooting for a higher methanol content than 50/50. Which would explain why you used equal weight water and methanol.

[@GoatRopeGarage]

@@BMWHOBO correct