Mixing Vocals? iZotope Nectar or Neutron?

Quick look at both iZotope Nectar and Neutron
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[@UDiAudio]

Quick look at both iZotope Nectar and Neutron bit.ly/shop-izotope

[@DaWizeDeciple]

Thank you! Was wondering about this...

[@UDiAudio]

Thanks for watching let me know if you have any questions

[@oguzhankasikci2750]

I think all of those izotope Plugins and their AI is the future of mixing. There are a lot of producers and "engineers" out there without decades of knowledge or education. This is a great way to explore the possibilities of mixing but only if your are ready to study the recommended results and fine tune as you understand what happens. Thank you for that video!

[@UDiAudio]

Yes but also for professionals engineers and musicians. It’s not all automated you need to know what you are doing and it’s not magic. Also all the included plugins and modules can be set manually just like any other plugin.

[@Ccs174]

Thanks for the comparison. By the way, this beautiful song you sometimes use, "I know you're broken, I know you've given all...," where can one listen to it fully?

[@UDiAudio]

you’re welcome✨ The song was in a mixing contest I participated in, ‘Nobody’s gonna love you’ open.spotify.com/track/00kvH4Wqn95KydiMG8zw4w?si=6LuDXNhsRPu2X7XXQaO89A

[@Ccs174]

@@UDiAudio I'll study it. Thanks a lot😊

[@Ccs174]

@@UDiAudio Who created the original instrumentation?

[@UDiAudio]

@@Ccs174 I really don't know.. probebly Bria's producer.

[@UDiAudio]

@@Ccs174 No idea.. maybe her producer..

[@slakemsuthungcamphalala3307]

Can i ask, how to widen the stereo of the vocals in nectar 3 because it is always in mono?

[@UDiAudio]

Send the vocal track to a stereo bus or group and put nectar there

[@souledout83]

Does nektar go on your vocal channel directly and neutron go on your master buss? Where do you place the plugins individually and what order in your vocal chain should you put nektar?

[@UDiAudio]

It's really what ever works for you. Both plugins are basically hosts for different modules which otherwise be indevidual plugins. I usually put nectar on my vocal tracks directly. I don't do a lot of mixing these days so not really using Neutron but it would probebly be as insert on a track. I some times use specific plugins on inserts.

[@richardbergermusic]

So - would a good use of these plugins include using Neutron to unmask the vocals and then Nectar to sweeten them?

[@UDiAudio]

Hi Richard Generally speaking Nectar is geared for vocal mixing and include a set of modules/plugins specific to vocal mxing along side more general purpose modules/plugins like EQ, Comprossor, gate etc. While Neutron is more general purpose mixing and definitly can be used to mix vocals but it misses the speciallity modules like, harmonies, reverb, pitch, Dimension etc. As far as iZotope I guess they want you to have both.. :) bit.ly/music-production-suite-6

[@serfinusa9532]

i just installed Nectar today, and without much experience with recording i was able to get a decent sound from a vocal track in a song i had recorded

[@UDiAudio]

Cool. I love the ease of use and intuative tools with Nectar (and Neutron). I use it a lot.

[@Trudystudios12]

I've been use nectar for a year,and it does the job very good. Compare to neutron, i choose nectar

[@UDiAudio]

Do you agree that it's really about differnt use cases? Nectar is great for vocals but Neutron is more generic mixing.

[@kickilicoff]

You say that you dont think Nectar is for general purpose. I can tell that i use Nectar 4 on way more tracks than Neutron. That is because Compressor has 4 modes, Digital, Vintage, Optical, and Solid State which is the types of compressors that i use the most. Neutron has Punch, Vintage, and Modern processing modes which is also good, but it does not has that huge selection of types. Nectar also has Saturator with 8 distortion modes vs Neutron has 4. Also the De-Esser on the Nectar is usefull for for example Cymbals. So to sum it up, i use Nectar a lot more than Neutron, on every track.

[@UDiAudio]

Thanks for the comment. What I meant is that Nectar was designed for vocals but I agree you can use it when it makes sense. At the end of the day it's just tools to be used.

[@kickilicoff]

@@UDiAudio Absolutiely. It is a tool 😄 I cant agree more.

[@larrycavallucci3258]

I have a number of Izotope plugins. After awhile, I get confused with all their "upgrades", and at times, just think it's a money-making process whenever they want a cash infusion into their company. As an example, right now, they are pushing RX11......I already have RX 10 Standard. Why upgrade? I also do have Ozone 11 Advanced, at a hefty price. I now only buy upgrades when I think they are worth it, and many times, I wait till the next edition, not the one right after the one I just bought! And I'm pretty much done with buying regular plugins unless they are proven to be very unique. I've also been done with Waves, as of about 2 yrs ago. Izotope is a mainstay for me, along with my already purchased plugins from Plugin Alliance. Good video by the way!

[@UDiAudio]

The plugins industry is like any other consumer and especially software market. Companies feel they need to add new features and keep up while making all of us pay for more and more.. If you are good with what you have that is the best. Only buy what you really need. For example I usually upgrade my Cubase only when it's on sale and only if I see improvments I need.

[@robertbialous7555]

Thanks 👍

[@UDiAudio]

You’re welcome

[@joshcoxmusic]

I’m a huge fan of all izotope. Nectar is amazing for vocals but I think the only useful ai part of it is the first subtractive eq. Everything else about the ai is useless bcuz it does the same thing every time. Aside from AI izotope is king! 😊

[@UDiAudio]

I use nectar all the time. the nectar 4 is in development and got few cool enhancements. Can disclose at the moment but will definitely review when released.

[@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn]

No it doesn't! I use Nectar 3 Elements, and if I hit Start Over, and play a different part of the vocal track, I get a different result.

[@dejidocemo5445]

love nectar and neutron 4 but they are CPU intensive.

[@UDiAudio]

I use it from time to time but I have a strong pc..

[@LFiers]

​@@UDiAudioI have a strong PC too but it's still hogs my machine. Is Nectar 4 and Ozone 11 more efficient then the previous versions? I have a Ryzen 7 with 3.8 GHz multicore CPU and 32 GB RAM running through SSD.

[@kojoefante]

@@LFiersso? It gets the job done ..

[@LFiers]

@@kojoefante Don't get defensive, I love the program.

[@rjjrdq]

Made my vocals sound like they were recorded in a cardboard box. They were not FYI.

[@UDiAudio]

I guess it’s not magic don’t use presets without adjusting them to your own tracks. In fact, it might be better to do this step-by-step and carefully using each module.

[@rjjrdq]

@@UDiAudio I was looking for a streamlined process. If I have to tinker with it I already have a chain set up. It was worth a try though. Just didn't work for me.