Neutron 4 Just Mixed My Track For Me!

#izotope #neutron #mixing
I'm a longtime user of iZotope plugins, and absolutely LOVE Neutron for its simple interface and great selection of tools. I've often thought of the mix assistant as something that other people use, and never really gave it much of a chance, until this video!
Here's I'm leaving EVERYTHING to chance and letting Neutron 4 process my track in whatever way it sees fit, with absolutely no intervention. I wanted to see just how good it could make my track sound through its AI mechanisms. In one word: IMPRESSIVE.
Neutron EQs and compresses my drums, guitars, bass and vocals in a really effective way, and absolutely brings my track together to sound great. This is always going to be a 'kicking off point', but it got my mix to the point where a few tweaks, a couple of FX sends here and there, and some master bus processing, would give me a fantastic end product.
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[@officialWWM]

This plug in has been a real reality check for me. Turns out I actually suck at mixing 😂😂

[@markcotton7081]

I just started with this plugin and do agree it attempts to get your track most of the way there and then you do the minor tweaking. Love it so far.

[@SamLoose]

It’s a favourite of mine for sure; there’s very little it can’t do.

[@renula]

Neutron does the job for me. Im pleased with the results.

[@SamLoose]

Can’t live without it!

[@Shareef2610]

That’s why I bought the whole suit because I don’t nothing about mixing and mastering. I want neutrons 4 and Ozone 10 do the job. BTW amazing suit I love it . I sound like professional thank you Izotop for your wonderful work

[@paulmark992]

I am looking into buying the suite as well or the music production suite. I cannot sleep over this. I love this softwaren.

[@angusbabb4913]

great review , thanks

[@SamLoose]

Thanks for watching!

[@aipsong]

GREAT!!!Thanks

[@SamLoose]

Thanks!

[@darkcharmrecords]

Good video! Thank you

[@SamLoose]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@michaeldavidson3055]

Great honest video on what it’s about. For someone like myself who doesn’t know mixing, this seems like it can teach me and sound great doing it.

[@SamLoose]

Thanks for watching. It’s a great plugin, and so useful for beginners and experts alike. Is there anything else you’d like to see covered in a video?

[@michaeldavidson3055]

@@SamLoose I’ll be getting ozone standard with Komplete. Do you know if izotope offers any upgrades? The mixing and mastering bundle looks great. Do you have any tutorials on the bundle?

[@SamLoose]

That’s great, Ozone is an excellent package. I’m sure there are upgrade and cross grade options available if you go to their site. As for iZotope tutorials, if you head over to their KZbin channel, you’ll see a familiar face 🙂

[@fantaztikbeatz]

Yes I believe it is a great tool to learn how to mix for beginners and good for seasoned professionals

[@officialWWM]

@@michaeldavidson3055their products are really expensive if you want to buy all of them. I know a lot of people don’t like them but I’ve found their subscription to be an affordable way of getting pretty much everything!

[@jonmatthews4254]

It is a bit too bright, but a great starting point. Very useful thanks.

[@criddyla696]

Nice Video pal, like your track too, cheers.

[@SamLoose]

Thanks for watching! 👍

[@MrJeewanMGamage]

Thanks a lot

[@SamLoose]

Happy to help!

[@good4sound]

Wow! That was super informative. Thank you for doing this demo. I have a few questions about your process, just for clarification: 1. Did you gain stage your tracks before doing the Neutron processing (i. e. adjusting the pre-fader levels to -18ish?)? 2. You mentioned that you processed Neutron on the Track level first, and then later on the Buss level. Does that you mean that you put instances of Neutron on every track, ran Mix Assistant, and then added instances on all of the Busses, and then ran Mix Assistant again? Doesn't Neutron "re-run" everything all together then? 3. Are you running any other plug-ins on any channels or busses or the master buss, and how does Neutron deal with those if that is the case? Thank you in advance for answering any or all of these questions. Scott

[@SamLoose]

Thanks for watching, Scott! I gained all tracks to -3dB as a matter of course. I’ve never heard any difference with the whole -18dB thing, so don’t bother. To my ears it makes no difference, as long as nothing is clipping it crazy quiet I’m cool with it. Yes, I ran Neutron Assistant on every track first (kick, snare etc) then once that was done, I ran it on a bus level to process everything in groups. As far as I’m aware the assistants are completely discrete; if you run one on the drum bus, for example, it has no effect over any of the other instances of Neutron on any other instrument or group of instruments. No other plugins anywhere on the mix, what you hear is purely Neutron doing it’s thing, no outside influences whatsoever!

[@good4sound]

@@SamLoose Wow! Thank you for the prompt response! And all of that is such great info. I'm going to give it a whirl. S

[@SamLoose]

Happy to help. Let me know how you get on.

[@biekanez1]

Great video. Don’t you have problems with overload your computer with so many neutron 4 plugins on your tracks?

[@SamLoose]

It can occasionally get a little laggy on big sessions, yes. I find that it’s worth it though, so just adjust the buffer size when needed.

[@officialWWM]

I just bounce each track once I’m happy with what it’s done. Takes a load of stress off the computer.

[@21stCenturySin]

I have a question you may be able to answer. If you want to use a reference track for the mix assistant, should it be just stem for that particular instrument? For example, for a bass track, should you only reference from a bass track stem, not a full song? Also, regarding Ozone 10 for mastering, should you insert that on the master/mix bus as the last plug-in on the channel? Or first, run learn to process, tweak that in Ozone, then add other EQ or other plugins after that to fine tune? I’m using Logic Pro by the way. Thank you!

[@SamLoose]

Yes, probably best using just the stem if it’s just that instrument you’re working on. With regard to Ozone, it really depends on what you’re doing. You could certainly use it as the only plugin on the master bus, or could you put stuff before/after. The only things that would definitely go after would be room correction plugins, metering, and referencing plugins.

[@nrgskillmedia]

Do each tracks' instance talk to each other? In mixing, we "make space" to all sounds: if, for example, you don't have a bass, the guitar can have more low frequencies. Does it take that into account?

[@SamLoose]

They won’t automatically communicate, that would have differences depending on the order you ran the mix assistant in on each channel. That kind of context is the perfect opportunity to use the unmasking filter though 🙂 You can stop different instruments fighting for space.

[@nickygacha1800]

Do you put any plugins on the vocal before visual mixer? Also if you can what about after?

[@SamLoose]

Nothing on any channels other than Neutron 😀

[@neoconnor4395]

Do you use the other effects on top of neutron or just the effects given to you by Neutron? I bought it last night and it made my mix sound super wonky. Also, do you use it before or after the master?

[@SamLoose]

Both! I'll often use other stuff in collaboration with Neutron, but rarely put anything before it.

[@neoconnor4395]

@@SamLoose Yeah, I like using it on master but didn't see anyone doing it..

[@officialWWM]

On that bass track, it looks Ike it’s trying to do that Pultec thing, almost cutting and boosting at the same time.

[@SamLoose]

Killer on bass 👌

[@alexandar5253]

For me the izotope plugins sound harsh and thin. I dont know why. Same thing with ozone.

[@rasbill]

neutron always adds the same eq curves for similar sounding instruments. especially the bass, it loves to always use the same curve. its not what i would consider AI, it just hears bass, applies the curve it has. it just has a bunch of set eq curves, and decides to apply one of those based on what the input is, which sure, works, but its not as intelligently listening to audio as one may be led to believe. I know this because ive used it alot, and it always has the same set of curves, and there is no way on earth all the separate pieces of audio needed the same exact eq curves as the last. i dont know if neutron 4 adds more then 3 does, but from my testing it doesnt seem to. dont believe me, run a bunch of different bass tracks thru it. 9 times out of 10 it will have chosen the same eq curve for every track u feed it. basically under the hood it just has a bunch of presets in it, and chooses one based on the audio you feed it. it doesnt intelligently eq the audio based on what it is, it just intelligently chooses one of its presets (which again are under the hood, you dont see the preset in the preset menu) I hope this comment makes sense as im really tired right now. when it makes a bad decision, its just because one the under the hood the presets that would work dont really exist for the audio you feed it, and it just chooses the best preset it has. if it was as intelligent as claimed it would never run into such an issue. i could take a bunch of i dunno slate digital presets and do something very similar to what ozone would do, but just have to decide on my own if its a bass instrument or guitar or vocal or whatever, and it would probably result in a better sounding mix then the original dry tracks, but i wouldnt really call it mixed, it would just sound a bit better. its a bit subjective (i mean maybe a bunch of presets will make u the ultimate mix who knows) but thats what is happening

[@kahyui2486]

Well yeah, you're supposed to add your own references. Using it without references doesn't make much sense.

[@waedi73]

Where is the mixing part ? Volumen and panning settings of each track ? How does that work ?

[@newrockorder]

the mixed version is too bright to me, leave out the exciter maybe, the vocals need more distortion

[@HIVELESSB]

It sounded way better before dude

[@SamLoose]

To each their own 👍

[@anticlocktower]

every instrument sounded great, but the vocal was not right

[@SamLoose]

To each their own!

[@Warcemis]

Ужасное сведение от Neutron

[@JohnHobart]

Ok so that’s what you do is put Neutron 4 on every track and just allow it to discern what kind of instrument it is? I am wanting to mix and master a whole different genre of music with it. Instrumental piano, strings, score type music. I have about 40 compositions I have never finished because of the whole damn engineering process that keeps me from getting them done.

[@APaclin]

This plugin still cannot make a difference between acoustic and electric guitars clean and distorted)

[@caspermaster-com]

Sounded like shit “after” hehe. I could probably master the before to sound better than the after here