Miyamoto Iori VS Miyamoto Musashi | Fate/Samurai Remnant

[@junkid3559]

When Iori became a Regend.... I felt that.

[@AlexanderLingg]

Truly a Regend of the Samurai moment of all time

[@aaronwimsatt9681]

I won’t lie, once I saw that iori whipped out his doubled swallow reversal on musashi, my jaw DROPPED.

[@Thissentenceisfalselosers]

"Musashi is just a bigger swallow" Iori, probably

[@soralight_x]

She leaves the FGO universe by Swallow Reversal & Returns to it by Swallow Reversal 😮 I suppose it was Fate. I’m sure Musashi & Kojiro are very proud of their beloved pupil. ☺️ I do hope this doesn’t cause hate for Iori though.

[@enumaelish9193]

Why would anybody hate a Fate protagonist for beating someone that should stomp them into the dirt? That's their whole deal.

[@dndxprm9286]

hating a chad? you jest

[@TheAnimenia]

@@enumaelish9193 Nasu tries to convey in his stories that the indomitable human spirit prevails

[@enumaelish9193]

@@TheAnimenia I dunno man, the indomitable human spirit tends to manifest itself as plot devices and Deus Ex Machina a lot in his stories bjt I dig it so no complaints.

[@saxor96]

​@@enumaelish9193Nah, those scenes are a little far fetched but always built upon before they happen. For actual deux ex Machina you need to go with Sakurai, who always makes new enemies and allies appear out of nowhere.

[@veneroluigi8157]

If people don't remenber, Musashi die by Kojiro and his Swallow Reversal in Shimousa, this is the fatal wound of the legend of this Musashi Miyamoto. Also I find strange that people is calling Iori victory BS, when Musashi defeat all servants in Shimousa.

[@ZekielAsh]

It's the waifu double standards, that and the Olympus trauma, no one wants _ to lose after that

[@TGPDrunknHick]

to be fair, people call bullshit on Shimousa as well. It took everything after Shimousa for a a few us to actually like her.

[@doggerlander]

One is a servant and the other a human

[@veneroluigi8157]

@@doggerlander Musashi was also a human during Shimousa.

[@MoroboshiGen]

I remember,this is the fate’s story,but really break the original history story,and,maybe just for me ,I don’t like such things called “this is somebody’s fate,you must accept it.” Make no mistake, I am not saying I heated this story,at least won’t because of this,becaus of power level.

[@nahrubish]

The only reason I can accept Musashi lost is that Musashi accepts her lost it is animated, voiced and directed beautifully

[@sadge_png]

I don't think iori completly surpassed musashi but that he came up to the same level, say if iori & musashi fought 100 times iori would win like 45 times kind of thing, in this moment iori definitely surpassed musashi tho

[@nahrubish]

@@sadge_png power level is not important in this matter. They created this cutscenes beautifully so I just let it go about the power level. It doesn't matter. It is beautiful and it is enough

[@UncleMerlin]

I need to see Iori wielding infinity and zero at the same time

[@MoroboshiGen]

she has completed her fight skill since 1.5.3，while iori is a man who only want to get stronger. musashi spend her life to live freely but iori want to fight all lifetime. so，I can accept her lose becaus there was a big difference between their selfdom.And that's why I love musashi

[@terrazone3dgames271]

Iori knows how his master fights and up until that point has been fighting other servants such as rogue beserker which even his master was having difficulty with. Iori even impressed Cu and had him waiting to fight him again. Also even if its a hidden fight he fights gilgamesh even if he is a rogue its still gil. Musashi also had no master during the fight. So she was most likely running out of mana.

[@foxph0rus]

The thing is though is that she is not only a Berserker, which was the highest raw combat power, she is still being powered by 3 COMMAND SEALS, and still beat her. And also that one thing that Koujirou is known for, like his main shtick is the Swallow Reveral which is 3 sword strikes simultaneously, and even Artoria praised Koujirou for basically accomplishing something that is the equivalent of an np in his life. Yeah Iori can do that but with 6 strikes, 3 with each sword. Iori also mastered Void stance which took Mushashi dying TWICE to do. I think barring anything a sword can’t deal with, like Avalon, I think Iori is the strongest swordsman in fate even as a human. Bro is INSANE.

[@2SSSR2]

Long story short - Musashi let him win. She was not serious during the match as she was in Lostbelts or Shimousa and she even smiled and let herself open when he used the last strike. Because let's get real, like Musashi is going to kill her own disciple at a point of the War where she basically decided to quit and hence has no reason to kill him.

[@TheRagnarose]

@@2SSSR2 Thats a lot of headcanon lol, nothing says Musashi was holding back

[@2SSSR2]

@@TheRagnarose It's not headcannon, I played the game and fought her several times. She fought on even ground with Iori and didn't use any ultimate attacks. And her finishing move was only possible because she left an opening which she had chance to block but was not. If you still think she was holding back remember that we are speaking about the person that with her ultimate attack was able to cut down Ivan the Terrible who was at that time gigantic mammoth and Chaos itself which she did by cutting thought the Void. So yeah... if she was dead serious Iori would have been killed just like when Saber killed him in a Bad End literally few minutes afterwards. Unless you are suggesting that Saber is much stronger swordsmen than Musashi as Iori was defeated in sword duel against Saber.

[@TheRagnarose]

@@2SSSR2 Musashi held back her NP but it makes sense since it was a duel of pure swordsmanship, in that sense Iori won fair and square, he mastered both Musashi and Kojiro's techniques. Also Saber is definitely stronger than Musashi, he's one of the strongest japanese servants if not the strongest.

[@ダルメナオキアキラ]

HOLYSHIT DOUBLE SWORD TSUBAME GAESHI

[@Ramsey276one]

Same!

[@zen_7748]

My headcanon is that this is the world she was in before she drifts back to Fujimaru Ritsuka's world in FGO to take part in the Olympus Lostbelt.

[@MicKChanchan]

I rather this is after lostbelt, so musashi survived after that slash of chaos 🥲. But it seems that you are right.

[@Nothingness4907]

Canonically this take place right before the Summer Las Vegas Event, where Musashi pretend in fact to be Miyamoto Iori when confronting Hokusai and Ritsuka Which of course mean it happens before Lostbelt 5 but it doesn't happen right before those events

[@jesusluquetorres7448]

Nasu already confirmed that this Musashi was from before the Lostbelts began. After Shimosa, but before Lostbelt 1.

[@ProfIdiiaka]

The battle of master and disciple... Miyamoto Field. And this bastard just use Niten Swallow Reversal.

[@sk_hermit1809]

What a fucking Regend

[@Niccogamer01]

well, when musashi died he found the real kojiro looking at musashi´s grave and iori wanted to became strong since he couldn´t finish his Niten ichiryu training and somehow became an absolute beast with Niten Ichiryu + sasaki kojiro swordplay. This man might even became a grand once he passess away!?

[@MicKChanchan]

i knew lori will use Tsubame Gaeshi during the mid game, but didnt know when. i finish that battle last night and feel lori is so upset het beat his master.

[@jackfdhunter7036]

Striking down his own mentor solidified his place on the throne of heroes. Though he will most likely never be as famous as Musashi, Iori is undoubtly one of the greatest swordsman of Japan, if not the world

[@ProjectTaker]

Just so you all know, Tsubame Geashi is a technique that is on par with Second Magic. Yes, it is a feat of physical skill that SURPASSES MAGIC. Iori here didn’t just perform it, he did two of them simultaneously with a sword in each hand. Base Tsubame Gaeshi is already stated to be godlike feat of pure skill that “surpasses even Servants” and Iori’s Niten Tsubame Gaeshi takes it up a another level

[@karlbenito9992]

Just got to this cutscene, and goddamn was this badass. Loved the duel and the final move

[@lameman1094]

17:00 if fgo collab with fsr , i want this to be his np

[@Oxen-pk3eh]

Madlad called it.

[@Ramsey276one]

​@@Oxen-pk3ehMaster type: Oracle XD

[@user-mo1kf2ox7h]

Man has clairvoyance!!!

[@nailigniststarzear6689]

waitttttttttttttttt He just fucking use fucking TSUBAME GAESHI with 2 sworddddddddddddddddd OMG OMG OMGGGGGGG If this man won't be recorded in ToH and become servant ....I will riot!....I want swordmen tournament event again! something like Shimosa that filled to brim with master of weapon

[@claytabulusshogun]

I mean, considering Iori's an actual historical figure, summoning him in Chaldea is possible.

[@ramaluminus]

It take me three tries to beat her, god this fight is just so satisfying, both from gameplay and narrative perspective. And I'm almost shit my pants when he used tsubame gaeshi.

[@aaronwimsatt9681]

Same! Like… who’d expect that?!

[@gameplaystorage3881]

i actually relied on earth stance counter for most of this fight

[@ace0719]

Glad to see you're still posting content!😁 hope you're doing better

[@iskandaraslar-pf3iv]

Iori is pretty much combination between sasaki and musashi he basically has that speed of sasaki and strength of musashi But basically musashi still could win because she is a servant but oh well

[@SiegfriedFafnirsbane]

How could he perform both sword styles. Arnt Musashi and Kojiro like opposites-Voidless and Infinite?

[@ualnomis99]

@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane That's because his style isn't just Niten Ichi-ryu. He said it himself that he learns anything that can lead him to victory. That's why he also trains with one sword, with magic, and even learned from the real Kojiro. Musashi had a dad that she hated and surpassed him by aiming for the void instead of the pinnacle. Kojiro challenged the impossible and created a technique that can hit three different spots at the same time (because of a bird). Iori had a rough childhood and because of that pursues a sword of absolute victory.

[@Transcendental-Anu]

Not really? Some servants are stronger than they are when they’re alive such as those molded by superstition and beliefs surrounding them such as Zhou Yu getting things from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms which he acknowledged was odd. But a lot of characters who are living heroes are way stronger than they are when they’re alive in comparison to them as servants, “class container” is literally a term used so often, and it’s a way to limit these figures with things suited for their container. Sure, they can still be powerful but they wouldn’t have the things they had when they were alive. Someone like Heracles in his era when he was still alive would for one be stronger than he is under the class container of berserker.

[@iskandaraslar-pf3iv]

@@Transcendental-Anu it depends on the servant but for a normal human like iori it could possibly be stronger than his alive counterpart after he become a servant musashi even mention once in casino Camelot arc that she has gotten stronger after becoming a servant So if the servant is born in age of gods they would probably stronger in they alive counterpart(most of them just built different )but if the servant that born after the age of god ends they pretty much stronger in their servant form(most of them normal human) Take emiya for example

[@roger6923]

Yeah, was Fate indeed

[@coconut_tv0564]

Easily one of the best bossfights in the game

[@vincenthuang2357]

I cried at this fight, dont know why Lol

[@andrewlekhnovskyi]

Is Musashi fighting in this duel can be considered canon?

[@emincash6931]

Of course?

[@ualnomis99]

Nasu said in an interview that this is after Vegas and before Lostbelt 5

[@andrewlekhnovskyi]

@@ualnomis99 so after losing here she just gets resumonned into LBs or what?

[@ualnomis99]

@@andrewlekhnovskyi It's weird. She's here because of her talent to travel worlds but when she lost to Iori she faded out like a regular servant. Maybe she just pops back into Chaldea.

[@mukash1838]

@@ualnomis99 her fade out was different so probably its her way of travelling

[@hhminh1467]

That time someone stole Sasaki Move and use it on his Rival 😂

[@茶虎丸-u8y]

10:18～12:30

[@Emperorwolf999]

so...is the lag part of the game, or is that on YT's end? it seems to lag whenever musashi uses the rainbow

[@terrazone3dgames271]

Not to sure the sound of the attack makes it seem to lag. But if you block and stand in the middle of the attack it seems to lag.

[@onepointsix3684]

The game didn't lag like that for me. Should be the video

[@Shadow977]

Video issue. Read the description.

[@Emperorwolf999]

@@Shadow977 must have been updated since I wrote this

[@averagecommander]

Next, he needs to learn the Three-sword style from Zoro 😂

[@Kairu-1220]

So is Iori stronger then musashi or did he win for the sake of the story? Also please dont make any misunderstandings i like Iori am just wondering is hes stronger then musashi since we know what musashi can do

[@Van-yh6to]

Stronger I'd say, at least in a 1v1 duel of swordsmanship. Iori's entire story is about him struggling to become a true successor to his school or swordsmanship after his Musashi died before he could truly be a master. This is final climax of his growth arc, finally being able to truly call himself his master's successor by doing what Musashi, and all grandmasters would want their disciples to do. Which would be to have the student surpass the master in order to ensure the growth of their discipline across generations.

[@Kairu-1220]

@Van-yh6to just to be clear your taking about lori right?

[@Van-yh6to]

@Kairu-1220 Yeah it's about Iori. He did win for the sake of the story in a way, because most of his entire story *is* about becoming stronger than Musashi.

[@Ramsey276one]

7:07

[@ダルメナオキアキラ]

okay im kinda confused, in this universe or what is this even an alternate universe??? what's going on??? Musashi is male just like the one irl, but ...he's summoned as FGO musashi who is also female?? and retains her memories of her male counterpart??? what??? what???

[@bingungnamanyaapa2662]

Alternate universe

[@veneroluigi8157]

This is Musashi from FGO, she came here by his "ability" to travel between worlds. You can see she is transported to another world at the end.

[@azerosblank5036]

The reason Iori won here is most likely because Musashi was already disappearing. It was also a duel of swordsmanship between the two. Although it's a far stretch to claim that Iori surpassed Musashi, you still cannot downplay the fact that he won the duel; and that he probably has the strength of a lesser servant. Afterall, he did beat Musashi (and with Musashi's personality, it's unlikely she held back in terms of swordsmanship in this duel) who was powered with 3 Command Seals. The fact is that Musashi became a heroic spirit because of the Ninten Style she created, and Iori winning against her speaks volumes about his growth and strength. Not to mention the double Swallow Reversals which in my opinion, was really epic when it was revealed - equivalent to that of a lesser NP. If Kojiro was 1 star, then Iori might be around 1-3 stars.

[@barnacleandy]

Why is a human able to fight with servants lmao

[@enumaelish9193]

The Fate franchise is plot armored teenagers fighting demigods or warriors that far outclass them. Shirou with Gil, Sieg with Amakusa, Hakuno and Buddha and Ritsuka with Goetia.

[@bleacher333]

As long as they have a certain level of Mystic, they can damage Servant. The question is whether they have the skills necessary to pull that off lol.

[@enumaelish9193]

@@bleacher333 Seeing how most Servants are Heroic Spirits because of their exceptional nature in a certain field they don't. They never fight low tier servants either. I still can't decide which is worse between Shirou vs Heracles, Shirou vs Gilgamesh or Sieg vs Karna.

[@MadHermit95]

Iori is built different

[@itsarin2166]

​​@@enumaelish9193I say Sieg vs Karna, how the hell does Sieg even able to handle the power of Siegfried against freaking Karna is just wtf. It's too convenient that Sieg just have everything to fight Karna, the whole Shield and Galvanism thing are just insanely convenient BS. At least with Shirou's fight there are still a lot of risk the story mentioned, especially in the VN. Shirou vs Berserker, Shirou only won because Illya was able to make Herc sane for a little, if not for that he's dead since the last slash of 9 lives blade work took slightly longer, also Archer arm is shown and told in the VN literally killing Shirou everytime he uses it, and in the end Shirou did die because of it depending on the ending you get. With Gil vs Shirou, in the VN Shirou is always on CQC from the moment he deployed UBW to finish, he never run around and does super jump like in the anime, on top of that his mind is struggling keeping up UBW and trying to fight Gil at the same time. In the VN (and even the anime) the only reason why Shirou even win is because Gilgamesh think Shirou is lower than him and he doesn't bother using any of his stronger NP such as Enuma Elish. With Gil it's a consistent thing where the stronger or the more respect he has for his enemy, the more serious he is, this can be seen in Fate Zero against Iskandar where he respects Iskandar and uses Ea, and Gil is also more serious fighting Enkidu in Strange Fake, using Ea multiple times. Also Shirou kill got literally stolen because Artoria uses Excalibur and caused his UBW to go down lmao.