Crazy Zoom Court #12 Good Times Bad Times

[@kat050107]

If I was judge Simpson I would be livid with the public defender after the third time that she told me "I haven't had a chance to speak to my client yet".

[@MrPaige222]

No kidding. He should have asked her which clients she HAD spoken to since she's SO busy. When are THOSE clients due for court, miss STORMY? I bet she hasn't spoken with her clients in years

[@Fantic156]

Judge Simpson's never far from a smile, even on his worst days!! A pleasure to watch. ;)

[@amb865]

And there’s so much rote that he has to do, like all those questions if someone pleads guilty. But when he hears an answer that’s not normal - “knowing this may affect your probation, do you still want to plead guilty?” - he immediately comes out of the rote and questions more carefully to ensure the defendant’s rights are being adequately served, and that the guy is not accidentally getting himself in an even word situation than he’s already in.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@doreendaykin6693]

I have watched Stormie McGee on several other occasions with Judge Simpson and it has ALWAYS been the same. She is lacking the info or hasn’t got the info and is rarely ever prepared for court….especially compared to the other attorneys. Judge Simpson has exercised extreme patience with her on other occasions. Judge Simpson has repeatedly requested her to talk to the client in advance. I don’t blame Judge Simpson in this case nor would I want Ms. McGee as an attorney. I am very surprised at how long Judge Simpson HAS been patient with her.

[@amb865]

Did you catch when she said “I know how to do my job” in the last little exchange? If this is a pattern for her, I kinda wonder if she does.

[@NotARegularMom24]

@@amb865 I was about to say that myself!! I was surprised Mike didn’t address that. I’m betting he didn’t hear her. Shew. That girl’s got some big kahunas! That was way disrespectful, especially if this is the norm for her! 😦

[@cowcatcher9186]

She acts like just because she’s got a license to practice that should be good enough.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup I didn’t catch that.👍

[@MrPaige222]

She looks very much like my sister. She's a patent lawyer and about as competent as a box of hammers. Made a COMPLETE mess of things that took 5 years to undo with a property we as a family inherited from our parents. Long story short, we kicked her out of the property and paid her off. Stormy is an incompetent lazy useless clone of my sister. Sorry, Mike, but EVERYTHING is her fault. I'm not an attorney, but I could run CIRCLES around her. She's an IDIOT.

[@wvhollargirl7549]

He has every right to be exasperated at the defense council. I just love his sense of humor! Seems to be a great man.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@ElanaVital83]

I don't know. Stormie doesn't look pleased either. I wonder if someone over her head made that decision not to meet the client til the morning of the show. Stormie looks like she knew it would be trouble for her.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

Another funny thing that happened later on is that someone was unmuted and asked for 'a towel'. Judge Simpson said, "I hope it's a towel for cooking." lmao, what a call-back.

[@1981lashlarue]

The Michigan Indigent Defense Commission requires that appointed counsel meet with their clients within three days of being appointed.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@Saanonymous80]

Stormy McGee, sounds like an Adult movie weatherwoman

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂yes but looks like a Sunday School Teacher

[@claudiashroyer1704]

Hahaha 🤣 I agree! She’s only missing the green screen 🙄

[@hollydennison159]

Dude ... I wish I'd get arrested for nothing, just to go into Judge Simpsons court!!! He's Friggin' Awesome!!!! I don't even live in MI.

[@notrab13]

Ms. McGee seemed like she was having a rough day. From what it sounds like, Ms. McGee was covering the three defendants we saw for another attorney in the PD’s office. Of course attorneys should meet with their clients before court, but I do have sympathy for what seems to be a PD’s office that seems to be overwhelmed with cases. That said, Ms. McGee’s jab back at the judge about knowing how to do her job seemed very I’ll-advised. It’s most likely very fortunate for her that Judge Simpson was talking over her as she said it. If he heard her, I think he would’ve had some more very choice words for her at the least.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup

[@blschneider]

Cutting it way too close with a judge that’s already irritated.

[@dg20120]

She needs to remember that proper planning prevents poor performance.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@maryturula7620]

He did notice it. He was going to address it, but then realized she had disappeared. That's why he asked the attorney who was starting the next case to stop for a minute.

[@jessicakendrick5142]

“What we seem to have here is a failure to communicate!”

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@jenhernandez29]

I enjoy watching Judge Simpson. He is a breath of fresh air, and amazing keeps his cool when the attorney's can't get their act together!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤩

[@blusky3742]

Happy Holidays Mike and all Judges ,lawyers,all officers of course to my favorite Happy/laughing Judge Simpson 😀😇🤗🙏🤲👐🙌🙏

[@Laxfarm]

You had me at Judge Simpson!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@momsterzz]

I loved the last case and I was so glad Judge picked up on her confusion in real time. He’s so awesome.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@jessicakendrick5142]

Oh! And Stormy didn’t communicate 3 times!! Holy moly! She went for the trifecta!!!!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🙌🤩😂

[@shiannevanvolkenburg1651]

Victor says “I quit” after the judges remark. He ain’t going to get no assistance 😂😂

[@lauriegialone5757]

Now this last Public defender is amazing and absolutely does a great job with all her clients

[@dcviper985]

Stormie needs to be referred to the misconduct committee of the Michigan Bar. She did Darius dirty AF.

[@MarySmith-bc7mf]

Can only hope the judge report’s her. She is a disgrace. Sue her for being incompetent.

[@ladymondegreen7188]

Best line: "Respectfully, I know how to do my job", whilst in the middle of not doing her job!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup😂

[@GraFiend]

EPISODE TITLE : Stormy Termoil 🤓 Another wonderful court showing. Thanks Mike 😎

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You 😊

[@nickiehaflinger]

3 months later...I haven't seen Stormy in Judge Simpson's court in a while. It turns out she left and is now with the Jackson County Prosecutor's office.

[@laur131306]

When the tag said stormy weather, I assumed there was like a weather emergency while in court or something...boy was I way off 🤣🤣 dont mind me. Still binging 🤣 just makes my work day go by faster and I appreciate that 😊

[@MoodyScorpio]

No, but same. 😅😅

[@bodigard4375]

As a PD with a felony case load of over 245 active cases this was bad. She had a calendar; she therefore has ample opportunity to get down to the jail and see her clients. If a non-jail client has shown up for court and their contact info was bad then I'm letting the judge know. Bad PD here; real bad.

[@lindamccracken8235]

I actually felt sorry for Stormie this time cuz another PD was this client’s Atty & she tried to push that Atty they pushed her under bus here!! Stormie was caught unaware this time- just saying…PD Amber Heard is #1 on Judge Simpson “incompetent” hit list!

[@tracywynn7319]

I worked with the GAL years ago and most of the time in the courtroom was just putting everything on the record that were hashed out in chambers. I can’t imagine walking into a courtroom so unprepared

[@TheLepke2011]

Yes! Please, please, please do a Chicago ep! I'm from Chicago. Moved to NYC. But if I ever get in trouble in Cook County I'm hiring Mike and showing up to court in a fez and going full SovCit!

[@amb865]

Don’t hire Mike if you get in criminal trouble! I once was on a jury for a guy charged with DWI. He was represented by his parent’s civil attorney, who handled contract matters for their antique shop. It didn’t go well.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Agreed plus I wouldn’t take it 😂

[@Miranda-zq7eh]

How bad is it when the judge bypasses council and questions the defendant himself about very basic facts?

[@peterstockhausen8806]

In Judge Bryant's 36 District Court a witness was getting a haircut while on the feed.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤦‍♂️😂

[@Jennylouise87]

I'm sorry but Darius! The mustache, the quiet responses are making me laugh so hard! I'm going to wake my son up!

[@MelanaC]

Aaaggghhhh…! New pup! Cute 🐾🐾🐾

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🐶🥰

[@combatwombat121]

Christopher Hamilton was on top of things - he new exactly what he was in for, when his next appearances were and which judge. I think Judge Simpson appreciated that.

[@johnmorgan1629]

"..Judge I understand how to do my job!" That's why he said "April 5th," over the top of her to avoid contempt charge, all-in-all bed end to a bad day for the attorney.

[@judylapointe3507]

Did she just have the nerve to say to the judge "I know how to do my job."? Little snippy after the performance she gave today.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Indeed

[@MesoCarib]

*Atty Stormie:* _"Your Honor, respectfully, I understand how to do my job."_ *Atty Amber:* Stormie, watch how it's done. 😛

[@laurahovis4541]

Big Chicago fan here. Luv that Chicago Meet Up idea! Count me in.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@elitereptilian200]

PD Harris has one lovely giggle..

[@bigal7561]

My Pug Sophie passed a few years ago after 15 great years with my dear friend. Your pug looks so much like Sophie. Cool and thanks

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Awwww that is tough Jack is not mine but he is awesome 👍

[@nickiehaflinger]

Hi Mike, I am not a lawyer but I watch lawyers in court on the Internet. Judge Simpson is making sure his time that he is already spending incarcerated for a bigger offense will count for this matter. I've seen a judge do this before - Judge Middleton, I think.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@abbyynorman2874]

“time served” is often used in courts-legal term is “concurrent” - meaning time served for more than one crime at a time- The criminal laws created under Obama can fill a concert hall! They will nail you on something no matter and make you a “member of the justice system” that will control you, nickel & dime you & destroy your life-taking years to clear up the smallest of infractions - like welfare “meant to keep you not free you”.

[@robertreisner8132]

I recall a Fibber McGee comic strip from the 30's...oh there goes my secret. No I did not invent dirt.😂

[@tarishapiro8451]

Stormy Daniels? Ya got with that one Mike! Your reaction was priceless! 🤣🤣🤣

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤦‍♂️

[@rebeccaberlin]

Mike. We need to talk about the two missing HELLOs. I need 3 every day. This is not sufficient

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@EveryoneKnowsItsWendy]

Mike!!! This was a fun one... Feeling a little left out of the possible Chicago meet-up... But I'll be there in spirit when it happens! 🍻 😊❤️💯😘

[@Cyge240sx]

He’s got to be my favorite judge

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@moosecat]

Judge Simpson isn't suffering this foolishness AT ALL.

[@cydnilisette]

Did anyone else notice that Mr. Darius was nodding during court? That heroin sure combats the courtroom jitters!

[@marlinmealer6506]

I'm from Tennessee I took my One Time driving Test in Nashville. I drove around the block and parked The Motorcycle test are just witnessed and that's it.

[@dagfincarp1113]

Everybody has a bad day at work. This appeared to be one for Ms. McGee.

[@michellemoreland3783]

The last case with all the giggles made my day. :)

[@Danajanene]

I love Judge Simpson....you are guaranteed to get some funny stuff out of him every time you look at him.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@loriepaix6391]

Yes, the judge is assuring that he will receive credit for his time served by giving him a nominal bond. If he had a PR bond on the lesser charge, he would not be accruing credited time.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You shoot now I accidentally learned something 😂

[@judyb503]

Rub-A-Dub scratches for all dem puppers! 🥰. (from Texas, of course!)

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🐶🐶🥰

[@Tusker2zero2]

We've got someone here named Danielle Breezy. She's a TV meteorologist. So perfect.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@robertwhelan9132]

Omg Judge Simpson is just adorable 😊 Love his humour

[@chekovcall2286]

It's not like the lawyers have to track down the inmates. This was interesting. Thank you.

[@therewill77]

Frankie would of gotten this case solved much faster. He would of just Bitten the criminals!! Thanks Mike.

[@janwieck400]

This judge has great judgment. He punishes (especially lawyers) when needed and introduces fun into the courtroom to lighten up when appropriate. Outstanding!

[@tracyhaverstick5672]

They do this in Michigan Mike. It's rediculous! I heard a public defender tell my friend that things would be better if he was retained instead of appointed. He said for $75, this is all you get. That was Shelby township. He spoke to her for 5 minutes! And I was told by a lawyer I paid $5,000 to that I couldn't afford to prove I was innocent. As Larry said the other night, I paid $5000 to have my hand held down plea bargain row.

[@MarySmith-bc7mf]

Too many lawyer’s think they are all that and have fat heads, just like the judge’s and the prosecutor’s.

[@65cj55]

Stormy didn't even say good bye.

[@erudite60]

Stormy Daniels eh?? Is that a Freudian slip?!

[@corleth2868]

Good luck to Miss Freeman with whatever test it is that she takes :)

[@heatherdabearsgirly8179]

You’ve got this Miss Freeman! Whatever this ends up being 😅

[@jeffanderson6390]

It's a good thing Mr. Foster is such a scintillating orator.

[@JustDiane71]

Sorry I missed you live; I was on MySpace checking out Stormy's updated profile pic! Great video today Mike!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂😂😂

[@Jahtutson]

21:03 I can't believe you didn't speak on this. Stormie said, "... I know how to do my job" to the judge.

[@anythingforselenas806]

I think Stormie McGee talked back to the judge… she said “I do understand how to do my job” as he was saying the new date…. 🫣🫣🫣 Stormie, you crazy, Stormie 😂🤣😂🤣

[@VioletWings1353]

That was a pretty good Freudian slip there Mike! 😆 Enjoyed the laugh!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Oops🤦‍♂️

[@pigpink1971]

That was complete garbage that she wasn’t prepared for court.

[@bryan5580]

Speaking of which, I'd really like to see you do a breakdown of whole Michael Avenatt saga. Show is a bit of the inside baseball on that.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

I don’t know anything about him🤷‍♂️

[@bryan5580]

@@LawTalkWithMike Michael Avenatti was the attorney for Stormy Daniels that later went on to get convicted of embezzling money from her, as well as attempting to extort Nike for lots of money. As you put it, it's so deliciously awful.

[@stoneysdead689]

I understand the judge's frustration but, I wonder how many clients these public defenders are assigned to meet with and represent. It might not be a case of laziness or procrastination and more a case of them just being swamped with too many clients. I know a lot of public defenders complain about this issue a lot. Most of them say they take a plea on 99% of their cases because they simply don't have the time to take any of them to court. That's why when I got in trouble- many years ago- I refused the public defender and hired an attorney. The pd told me my best bet, only choice really- was to take the plea deal which was 1 year in drug court, 1-2 years on supervised probation, and 60 days in county jail. Otherwise, he said it would go to trial and I would do up to 5 years in prison. I went and talked to a real attorney- he said he could get all charges dropped- but it would cost 7,500 dollars. Went and got the man his money and viola- he made a deal with the DA that if I got in no trouble for the next year all charges would be dropped. Look at the difference between those two outcomes- all because I had money. If I hadn't of had the money to pay an attorney- I would've been screwed just like 99% of the guys who come through that court room. It's sad but true- you get what you pay for guys- even in the judicial system- especially in the judicial system. I was innocent of the charges they had against me to- not innocent mind you, just innocent of the charges they had against me- didn't matter, it still cost me 7500 bucks to get free of it. That's why they made the deal with my lawyer so quickly- once they looked at the case, they realized they didn't have anything on me really- I was just present at the scene when they busted someone else basically. The DA knew that, but he decided to charge me anyway and just rely on the probability that I couldn't pay for a real lawyer. And tbh with you, at any other time in my life I wouldn't have been able to- but I had just come into some money- luckily. So, I was able to basically pay my way out of a situation that in reality I should've been released from free of charges. I aint bitter about though- no sir, not me..... can't you tell?

[@Cranberryopah]

It seems like your second lawyer spoke with the DA and got your charge dismissed without a trial. Honest question: why couldn't your PD have had the same convo with the DA? Would it have been more work?

[@stoneysdead689]

@@Cranberryopah I have no idea, all I know is that he refused to do anything but plead it out. His excuse to me was that this was the best course of action- which was obviously not true but- that's what he kept saying. Then I found out that this is what he had done with every case he had gotten- it's all he does. Like I said- or I think I talked about it anyway- he lives in public housing and is literally the town drunk. Every time I had seen him before becoming his "client" he had asked me for a cigarette. I had no idea he was the PD until I got in trouble. Imagine being introduced to your lawyer and realizing "This is the drunk guy from the projects that's always asking me for a cigarette."

[@Meatball2022]

There is no circumstance where an attorney shouldn’t speak with their client prior to court. That’s just plain silly. Unless of course there’s an extenuating circumstance ie hospitalization.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@susanwetmore4822]

I totally agree!! The question is are we providing adequate resources for the Public Defenders Office for this to occur? If the PD has had the opportunity to meet with their client do they have the time and energy to provide the best defence for their client? I'm a nurse; I can truly empathize with an overwhelmed PD. What SHOULD happen and what actually DOES happen are entirely different stories. The public really needs to be aware of the reality of these situations are. I know I never really thought about how will the PD's office is funded and how about their allocations of resources. I can see the haunting similarities of what happens when you are overwhelmed, understaffed, and overworked. It is literally a difference in life or death. It's easy to lay blame on the attorney who hasn't seen the client; it's much more difficult to look into (and correcting) a system that is preventing this from occurring

[@BettyJBarr]

My 2 cents, Stormy passed the buck to the unseen person she referred to.

[@christina5kids16grands]

Love that judge!! Poor Stormie! What about the jail saying they can’t talk to the clients til the morning of? Do you think that’s true?

[@dkoch2]

Stormie must be new, she's dropping the ball all over the place

[@evilscience3164]

Hey Mike, your audio mixing has been better lately. Well done.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You 😊

[@bakerman10]

McGee makes two straight PA's that makes me fear for that area.

[@jacobsladderpa]

A meet up would be fun! I live in PA though I head to Chicago next WED!

[@dillydave13]

Former Chicago resident, I now live in Wisconsin. I’ll come down for a meet. I’ll be easy to spot, I’ll be the dapper one wearing an ascot.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@alicia.8857]

Appears that Stormie Weather, er, McGee needs to take a couple of CLE courses or the public defender's office needs to tighten up on the supervision.

[@lindamccracken8235]

Poor Judge Simpson gg thru a madness w/young defense lawyer now! 🙄🙄Hard day for him & STILL GOING!!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

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[@lindamccracken8235]

Mike, You have got to find a clip from the “New”Defense Atty Sam’s experience with Judge Simpson “Wisdom”that went till 8:30P EST! Tried to save some clips but didn’t know how! During AM session where inmate as leaving laughed saying “He ain’t happy with ya’ll” pure gold! He is NOT pleased when Defense Atty Amber Heard in his Court- past unpreparedness on her part has her in his sites every time!!!

[@Tipp_Of_The_Mitt]

Thank's Mike.

[@KuddlzH]

I absolutely adore Judge Simpson! I think its great that he can joke and have fun with not only the attorneys and court staff but with the defendants as well. It makes people feel that he honestly cares about them as people and not just another offence. At the same time I would NOT want to be on his s@*t list as he clearly does not play!

[@karmaficionado1163]

This judge is the REAL Cedric the Entertainer...#justsayin lol

[@mbsisktb9045]

I enjoy Judge Middleton getting miffed at the defendant who are out of custody for not calling their lawyer

[@dharmagirl5889]

He has a GREAT smile. 😊

[@lehammsamm]

Stormy McGee is now Stormy Daniels, confirmed. Sorry Mike. 😂😂😂

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@NS.Katz5541]

Public Defenders REALLY suck in this place MY GOD no wonder people just sit and rot in prison!!!!!!!!!!

[@allie4378]

When she told the judge "I know how to do my job" I woulda snapped if I were him. Like that is not currently apparent. You're in court more completely unprepared having not spoken to any of your clients or the prosecutor and you're spending half the hearing on your phone while the judge is trying to HELP your clients

[@IamMugs]

This judge is great.. firm when needed and lighthearted where warranted. Stormie needs to get into something more her style, maybe a Walmart greeter?

[@JustaMomnFamily]

The sadness you feel when you realized you completed a playlist (some watched twice). 😭

[@StandardGoose]

According to her LinkedIn, Ms McGee had a previous career as a graphic designer before she became a lawyer. Maybe she should consider switching back.

[@aprilleerose]

It seems like common sense to me for attorneys to speak with their clients BEFORE court to avoid wasting time let alone continuances.

[@MrPaige222]

Not to mention, she very well could have let this guy do SERIOUS time. She didn't even know what his other charges were. And worse, didn't give a damn. Judge Simpson saved her client. She needs to be pushing a broom somewhere.

[@csh43166]

Jack!!! 🥰🐕 It seems to me that continuance after continuance is a huge waste of time in most cases. Let's figure out what we can before court and make the most of the court time. I will admit - I have no patience for "unpreparedness," so that would drive me NUTS!! 🤪 Stormie is having a baaaaad day...of her own making. She may be questioning her decision to become a PD right now. 😏 Did you catch her telling the judge she understands how to do her job? I think I'd be treading a little more lightly. 😬Could she be held in contempt for that?

[@brayhill]

Local Chicago meetup? Heck yeah. Hopleaf has a nice patio. Or Cindy's at the CAA if it's downtown. Or All Rise Brewing at Cobra if you want some Naked Raygun playing.

[@patriciaevans5906]

Stormie got a little snippy there for a second…..was hoping she’d say something to Judge Simpson

[@SkippyJmc]

Judge Simpson is awesome!! 🤙

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🙌

[@ryant6806]

I'm from Tennessee and can confirm our driving tests are easy.

[@iota328]

'Stomie McGee from...' I lost it LOL

[@shiannevanvolkenburg1651]

I hope so is not the correct answer. At least for Judge Simpson 😂😂😂

[@cheri6174]

When the Judge said to Stormie, do I make my self clear regarding meeting with clients the day before court, she had total attitude and rolled her eyes and threw the file to the floor. I love Judge Simpson. I don’t feel she respects the court or the judge and is not prepared at all

[@gwenthompson8347]

LOL I love your "outrageous request" comment! You're so funny!

[@kat050107]

After watching all of these videos of people with public defenders, it really does seem like many of these public defenders couldn't care less about their clients. Im sure there are some decent ones out there, but there appears to be a lot more that barely do ANYTHING for their clients. It seems that you can only get justice if you have the money to pay for a lawyer.

[@notrab13]

I don’t get that impression at all when I watch Judge Middleton’s court. Almost every defense attorney you see in that call is appointed, and I have yet to see anything less than what I’d call admirable advocacy. From the Yancey sisters, Rhonda Ives, Johns Barnes and Bush, and our buddy Keith Stickley, I only see lawyers that care and try for their clients. St. Joseph county is obviously less busy than Detroit or a Ann Arbor, though, so their appointed counselors are most likely much less overwhelmed with cases.

[@aprilleerose]

@@notrab13 I also see very caring and engaged public defenders too when I watch court online. I don’t know how true that is as a whole in the U.S. with public defenders. They have so many clients at any time, I have no idea how any of them keep up with everything.

[@johnsilver8059]

I don’t think they don’t care, but that in some areas they’re overwhelmed by the number of cases. If one is working 3 felony cases and 2 suspended license cases, more effort will be put into the felonies because the consequences for the client are more severe.