MKLeo Reacts to Top 10 Smash Ultimate Player Rankings

[@nevohyams]

at the end of the day people should remember that the Lumirank team (who work independently) are people who put all of this together in their own free time because of a love for the game. Rankings will always favour some things over others, and they're fun and useful but not the end all be all for competition

[@TheGFFA]

Yes, half of the top 100 are Japanese; yes, half of the top 50 are Japanese; yes, half of the top 20 are Japanese; but only four of the top 10 are Japanese. We're not washed yet, boys!

[@おかし-y7h]

four of the top10 is almost half of the top10 lol.

[@erickaguirre4888]

Well... 4 from Japan 2 from US 1 from France 1 from Canada 1 from Mexico 1 from Dominican Republic It sounds like...

[@user-xr8xu1hr9m]

🇯🇵＞＞＞🇺🇸＞🇨🇦=🇲🇽=🇫🇷=🇩🇴

[@brick-1234-d6w]

No Acola Miya Hurt Shuton TamaP are ALL top 10 and japanese

[@Noah-is8we]

The insane thing about acola is that he has only one loss outside of top 20. There is no player as consistent as he is except for Leo's Golden Age Arc.

[@Oshawatt]

Ok but if we wanna talk about acola’s consistency let’s talk about how sparg0 and sonix never lost to him this year. In fact he never went to game 5 with either of them. In fact between the two in all of his career he has only ever won a single set. If 2 and 3 literally cannot lose to number 1 then maybe you should move him down a peg

[@Noah-is8we]

@@Oshawatt wait what do losses to individual players have do with consistency. Don't get me wrong head2heads are a factor that goes into rankings but it doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Even if for example Gluto were to have a 10-0 record vs Miya we probably wouldn't switch up their placings because Miya's performance is just better overall

[@snoopydaaabooouu4823]

Pls Glutonny is at min as consistent. On liquipedia he never did less than 17-24 since 2018 😂

[@Oshawatt]

@@Noah-is8we I’m not saying we switch up their placements but if you just autolose especially with such a good character I don’t see how you can be the best. If I gotta say he’ll win any event unless Sparg0 goes I don’t see how I can say he’s better than sparg0

[@nicholas930]

Huh? No player as consistent except leos golden age? If we're going all time then ZeRo and Armada probably have him beat. If your speaking only about ultimate I think that narrows the sample size too much.

[@atietta]

The player cards don’t include losses to non-ranked players which also helps explain a lot of things. Like Yaura had much fewer unranked losses than Sisqui. And Tea, Yoshidora, and acola were also the only players who didn’t have an unranked loss

[@RandomStando]

Acola also didn't have any losses till top 50, 1 loss to Big D who was ranked 45th and then the next losses are in the top 20

[@mnoypoiuyt65r4w8]

yaura is so fucking goated

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Who did Miya lose to?

[@atietta]

@@nathanlevesque7812 Sriks and Futari No Kiwami Ah! for unranked losses, ezs and metara for top 150-101 losses

[@kestrelynn]

In 2022, mang0, considered by many to be the GOAT of melee, was ranked #11. People made jokes of him being so goated he got sumber 1 twice in the same season Then immediately agter the rankings dropped he won a major and performed so well throughout the rest of the year he climbed to top 3 Melee storylines and ultimate storylines seem to evho eachother sometimes, im hoping this is one of those times

[@hecticmojo4532]

Mango and Hbox still hitting top 10 while mostly being content creators still blows my mind. It’s like riding a bike for them

[@nathanlevesque7812]

And HBox does it with a character that is countered by the main of 2/3rds of all players. @@hecticmojo4532

[@extonjonas6820]

​@@hecticmojo4532they are also in their thirties. They have just been playing so long

[@hecticmojo4532]

@@extonjonas6820 true. It’s awesome to see and I just got into smash early 2023

[@isuck6049]

Waiting for an mkleo armada type comeback arc

[@jinxeatsdust]

ik theres people that will be mad about acola #1 (when is there not) but like... Solely top 8 placements at every event with no losses outside the top 50 (his worst loss was Big D at like 45) is so insane. You can't attribute that amount of consistency to just Steve.

[@silverpotato4272]

For another insane stat, over the course of the entire year he only lost 5 times to players outside of the top 4

[@silverpotato4272]

(Once again each of: muteace, asimo, Ken, hurt, and big d), and he beat 4/5 of those players later in the year anyways

[@jevorok3905]

he's also lost to less than 10 individual players and genesis was his only placement outside of the top 4

[@danielrogers6862]

Still an unbalanced game..there was no consistency his play style is like completely random. I personally don't think Nintendo should have esports. Like at least in cod and fortnite everyone is on even playing ground. Shouldn't have to use a character you don't wanna use to win. Props to everyone who didn't use dlc or sonic though.

[@jannomeeuwessen4886]

Actually we can. It's the only reason he's doing this. Before making Steve he was not even close to doing that, neither with his secondaries.

[@nevohyams]

Yaura was pretty consistent, and he got big wins over Sparg0 and Miya. they're very close but Yaura is definitely insane. as for Ken, his first half was kind of weak, for example 25th at BoBC, but if the rankings were only the second half i think he'd be top 10

[@octaviodelbarrio]

The jab1 jab2 fsmash from jdv to win against KEN tho 🧑‍🍳

[@ryan_raus]

No way they both thought Tweek would be 4th when he’s up against Acola, Miya, Sparg0, and Sonix

[@abghen2323]

Miya's rise was mainly at the latter half of the year. It could make sense since Miya has some large losses to deal with

[@voodooedits785]

Miya still had better results than Tweek for the first half

[@mysteryghost7972]

Miya was ranked above Tweek midyear too@@abghen2323

[@RuneTacticss]

Tweek would be 1st if he didn't lose to Goblin every time 😭😭😭

[@abghen2323]

@@RuneTacticss what a random take LMAO

[@KingDarksider]

Leo is NOT washed.

[@Rocky-cc3xs]

Yeah, people just get better

[@packun_jonk3276]

hes washed relative to where he used to be, where he just no diffed everyone else and was guaranteed 1st at any given tournament but hes not washed in the sense that hes still one of the best to play smash in general and if he were to stay motivated would easily make top 10 this year

[@Tonjit41]

Why do you even care bro get some priorities.

[@maddox9511]

@@Tonjit41 Welcome to competitive activities. People care about rankings. Smash ultimate is entertainment. People get to speak their minds, the only reason people can make a living off of smash is because of the community

[@kkss7064]

@@Tonjit41 because it’s fun

[@kestrelynn]

I just realised when sparg0 loses its always to the gype signature of the player, voids raindrop, tweeks puramid scheme or muteaces turnip combo. Great sets

[@U.N._Owen.]

Riddles back throw into forward air

[@RuneTacticss]

Kola's.......Kolaness

[@kestrelynn]

Reminiscent of melee in 2018 and 19 Hbox was #1 but in 2018 armada had a big winning recprd on him and in 19 leffen did Hbox just won so much more and was so much more consistent that he got #1 anyway

[@JadoLT7]

I love Maister

[@kajin2422]

He genuinely has such a great personality it’s a shame every1 dismisses him cause of GNW

[@I_Love_Light]

I love light

[@meanttoaster7261]

Maister hard carries these videos

[@enriqueperez3671]

Hey Leo please continue playing, have fun because your fans will always want to see you play! 😊

[@Feller06]

I’ve gotten to know y’all two a lot more because of goat talks. It’s really fun and y’all make great content. GL in 2024

[@octaviodelbarrio]

Am I the only one who finds the fact that bloom has random as a secondary in his player card absolutely hilarious? Also props to raflow for making it so far in the ranking as the best palu in the world with such a difficult competition

[@hunterbranch8458]

Leo, we wanna see 111 next year, number 1 three times 😎 Still the greatest of all time Leo 🔥

[@NaughtyPigMario]

💀

[@ManuelPersona24]

I love how the Japanese commentators screamed while Miya was dominating Kameme with Incineroar!

[@TheGFFA]

Japanese comms go unnecessarily hard lmao

[@espeka1207]

I think it's very safe to say that peak Sparg0 is the best player in the world. If he can just keep his peak perfomance going for a full season, I think we see him take #1.

[@crazykhespar8487]

Kurama, the Japanese Mario, totally my favourite.

[@slsqns]

He ain't japanese

[@ManuelPersona24]

I told you that Super SmashCon was the tournament with the highest value! Acola is insane!

[@eliotvega5823]

Literally!

[@skoolwifi3835]

As much as I loathe Acola's play, you're coping if you don't think he's first. The numbers don't lie

[@guspolo03]

Maister looks professional! Very nice bro!

[@younex7952]

THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE HYPE

[@komastemon9269]

What, can we talk about perfect french accent of leo on "william belaid"

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Zackray being one spot above Maister several rankings in a row is funny!

[@kestrelynn]

Sisqui vs yaura is in interesting rivalry and i hope to see them in the same tourneys more They both have great wins and got such similar rankings Similar to bloom/lima

[@nevohyams]

Raflow and Jagaimo too, one spot difference. so many cool rivalries

[@mercurysnake274]

I think sisqui vs yaura is the definition of peaks vs consistency. Sisqui outplaced Yaura at the tournaments they both attended (BOBC and Port), and has comparable wins. But stuff like 129th at Smash Con really hurts him, which imo is what pushed Yaura ahead

[@feresoththedamned2688]

yo, Mister's facial hair is looking real good this time! hope he keeps it!

[@Buddah__0]

I'm in this video and that's awesome lol. I still remember watching that comeback Riddles did live and in person. Right at the very front too

[@minervaselysium137]

god damn this video is so good and im falling in love with maister. keep it up

[@galaxyrend]

Acola is obviously #1 but I gotta say his top 100 wins board isn’t nearly as impressive as Sparg0’s lol

[@jonahbishoppollock3229]

Honestly it's not even as impressive as Miya's and Sonix's too. But he barley loses to anyone so that helps allot lol.

[@Cubesage]

It's because he doesn't lose early in brackets. His good wins are in winners finals and grand finals. Spargo sometimes has a bad loss early and makes a great losers run and compiles big wins going through it.

[@HxL-yy1fl]

Its because we cant see the loses board. Spargo has a negative record vs tweek, light and riddles kinda hurt.

[@haalamn877]

i mean mkleo got top 1 at lumiRank at Spring 2019, Fall 2019, Summer 2022, 2022

[@user-x2y2x]

I LOVE IT that MKLeo is the only person in the world to predict miya as no. 4

[@erickaguirre4888]

Wut

[@NaughtyPigMario]

??? they both think tweek is #4 did u watch the vid

[@NaughtyPigMario]

wait nvm did leo forgot that this is a full year ranking or something aint no way acola is #3 💀

[@johnathandys8894]

Maister haircut is WILD

[@liquidberry3386]

24:39 bro the sound 😂😂

[@awxii_]

34:17 When you wake up on December 16, 1773 and see American colonists dumping tea into Boston Harbor.

[@romanroyer7057]

Leo's english is incredible, considering how long he's been learning it

[@Visage_Pale]

31:15 perfect cut 😂😂

[@alfort3542]

Yaura said that never lost sisqui when they played friendly.

[@DerrylHopkins]

Leo seeing people he's better than ranked higher: >:(

[@offdeez21]

Acola is more consistent, but if we’re keeping it real, Sparg0 is the better player when it comes to skill alone. Respect to both players tho, the entire top 4 are number 1 in my eyes.

[@kassidystrain2323]

Love how humble Leo and maister are

[@kingcarrotxvi9437]

Maister looking like he has an MBA with the facial hair. Our top players are all grown up 🥲

[@rodrigomiranda5751]

I know I’m not the only one that thinks Squad Strike would settle the real top ten players. For example when one Steve stock gets knocked out, good-luck against a well rounded player such as Tweek.

[@aymenjbaili]

You're well rounded bc you play banjo w wifit like nah you're wrong

[@rodrigomiranda5751]

@@aymenjbaili thanks for bringing that up, Tweek has literally beat Protos mains with DDD, Banjo, and Inceneroar in a squad strike…

[@aymenjbaili]

@@rodrigomiranda5751 of course he have an inceneroar

[@judithforever9494]

@@aymenjbailiahh yes, the most broken character

[@moonbeam2730]

i believe in you mr. leo and mr. maister!

[@RemixkingDystansy]

Leo so goated he needed to number 1 rankings

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

Miya's top 100 wind is xX on 8 players from the the very Top ten hes being ranked in. The rest are honorable mentions or maybe even arguable. Thats crazy.

[@fupalover]

Leo i love you but you are lowkey hating on the Japanese players lmao. Like thinking Acola would be 3rd is just not logical

[@dingo9696]

Hes salty as fuck hahaha

[@alexmartin6561]

He's said multiple times that he doesn't respect acola's play. Plus even when he was #1, he always made/insinuated comments about how lame the Japanese players play with the exception of zackary as that man, like leo, is all about team fundies. Japan had it good when their top player was someone as hype as zackary.

[@dingo9696]

@@alexmartin6561 sounds salty as fuck that mexico is washed up now and japan has half of the top 100. NA smash is dying and japanese smash is still growing. Very interesting! Im wonder if its because of all the complaining

[@alexmartin6561]

@@dingo9696 Nah, he might have some salt now but Leo has always disliked the Japanese playstyle. (with the exception of zackary) As I said, this was true even when he was undisputed #1. His opinion hasn't changed due to the new ranking.

[@dingo9696]

@@alexmartin6561 there is no such thing as the “japanese playstyle”. Its just being butthurt that foreign players are doing better than him. As seen by him talking shit about yoshidora without knowing a thing about him.

[@HanakoKuni]

Yesssss another GOAT talk episode 😎

[@platinum_ap6836]

I would respect acola's first place more if he didn't consistently take the L to the number 2 and 3 players. It's hard to take his placement serious.

[@名前なし-x2l]

Yeah and how about spargo being 49th lmaoooo and having unranked losses and a top 50-100 loss , gosh your making a fool out of yourself , please use your brain next time

[@platinum_ap6836]

@@名前なし-x2l That would mean Acola, the number 1 player, gets beat by a kid that got 49th and loses to unranked players LMAO. That’s even more embarrassing for Acola.

[@timjim7163]

⁠@@platinum_ap6836but you acknowledge that sparg0 is the one with the losses and placements Acola is consistent, and when he lost to sparg0 he always got 2nd with tons of great wins

[@alicepeak]

@@platinum_ap6836numbers dont lie, Acola #1.

[@legitsniped]

Acola had 8 1st places spargo 7 acola had way more 2nd places and no 49th placements and spargo got knocked out quick at summit so it makes sense

[@Marisarabia3167]

Not seeing the Goat mkleo was crazy but I know his comeback is going to insane.

[@austinheiden16]

Maister English kinda good ngl

[@blazikenblast0520]

Unrelated, Yoshi’s Island OST from MK8D would slap in any Smash game. I need that to be real lol

[@RedMooseJesus]

Is this season gonna be 6 months or 12 months?

[@broadcliff5842]

The reaction to tweek not being to five hurts me

[@gloop510]

Ok so like was tweeks results chart not just better then lights?

[@darkcircless]

bro this shit is crazy im geeked rn

[@EmmanuelKai25]

you can do it Leo

[@Caw50]

At this point I'm just watching for their reaction to acola's player card since they keep talking like they have no idea how dominant he is

[@Yela_indi]

It’s fine to call Leo washed, as long as you’re joking when you say it

[@sarahsloot2290]

I wish Maister was 22, for poetry. 1 twice and 2 twice. Still GOATs talking!

[@jonahbishoppollock3229]

Yaura deserves to be above Sisqui imo. 2 Miya wins and a Sparg0 win plus a ton of consistent results makes him better imo. Sisqui had an amazing year aswell though.

[@Tonjit41]

31:08 he wasn't dead. Look at limit. That's why he the (2nd) goat

[@abduleshabbar9223]

Light over Tweek is crazy when you look at Tweeks lowest placements versus Lights. That shit makes no sense.

[@SadFace229]

I'm a big Yaura fan but I begrudgingly see Leo's point about how Sisqui should be ranked higher. The man brings home the high ranked spots. But I vastly prefer quiK's and Yaura's playstyles. quiK is so smooth with the wavelands and how he integrates his charge feints. Yaura's back jump wave bounced shotgun charge shot ledgetrapping (what a mouthful) is crazy cool and disgustingly oppressive. Those guys made me pick up the character (only to drop her after finding out she was so easy to win with only because it was online...) I would love to see Sisqui integrate these playstyles. But that's a hard sell cause if it ain't broke, don't fix it, I guess. The Luminosity boys started off 2024 with a bang, keep it up!

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Sisqui getting two unranked losses at Smash con hurt him so much I think.

[@atietta]

Sisqui got 129th at the biggest tournament of the year

[@SadFace229]

@@atietta Oh, guess I sit comfortably corrected then.

[@YuhDug]

My GOATS

[@Oshawatt]

I’m sorry but if number 1 cannot win against number 2 and 3 then maybe you got your list mixed up

[@BryGuyJohn]

This is the point I keep making. Acola literally auto loses any time he meets Spargo or Sonix in bracket and they still give him #1.

[@NaughtyPigMario]

u guys are dumb

[@ぽい丸-n7u]

Acola's lowest ranking is 7th, which proves he is the best.

[@armakeen3576]

You could also argue that you don't deserve rank #1 if you lose to a sub-100 player. At the end of the day it's just subjective, Acola #1 makes sense, but Spargo or Sonix #1 would have also made sense

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@armakeen3576 I think that a ranking based on a well-thought-out algorithm is as close to objective as you can get. The argument for Acola being number 1 is just stronger.

[@yuyu-pu3vx]

Acola has to take the college entrance exam this year, so it may be difficult for him to maintain this record.

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Acola definitely had the numbers but going 0-6 to Sparg0 makes that first place over him pretty sketch.

[@名前なし-x2l]

Yeah and sprag0 having losing records to tweek , riddles isn’t talked about enough and the fact he placed 49th 😂😂😂😂 and an unranked loss lmaooo y’all delusional

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

Im gone say this... Going by results Acola definitely has it. But Spargo just seems more dominant. Even over Acola. Doesnt he have a winning rec over everybody frfr, or am I trippin???

[@jinxeatsdust]

Sparg0 had a losing record to Riddles, Tweek and Light in 2023 who acola decimates, so he doesn't have a winning record over everybody (unfortunately 😔)

[@erickaguirre4888]

Skyjay double eliminated him at collision and Void sent him to last place at Summit. Those are huge losses compared to Acola's.

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

@@jinxeatsdust lmao dude I'm talking about within the top ten. It's quite obvious when you look at the chart following their highlights and the point is mainly Acola. Mind you I'm a fan of both. You can go through my comments and see me going against most Western fans defending Acola. The point is it's looks crazy that number 1 has a monstrous losing record to number 2. And I'm not the only one that sees this. Stop being a fanboy for once in your life

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

@@erickaguirre4888 dude y'all are pointing out shit that doesn't matter to what I said. I'm not arguing that Spargo should be Number 1. My point is it looks crazy that Acola lost so much to Spargo but is still number 1 over him. Notice how I acknowledge that Acola definitely has it based off RESULTS which pertains to what you brought up. So this is a wasted statement

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

​@@jinxeatsdust Riddles has only 2 wins 🤣🤣🤣 chill bro chilll

[@Elvondir]

Skyjay? 32? wtf?

[@GavN2319]

Zomba disrespect is crazy

[@Jagm3854]

Yes Kurama is japanese

[@sarahsloot2290]

Ken was top 10 2nd half IMO. I see why you thought 10-12 human recency bias. He was Gaming toward the end of the year!

[@MannyForReal]

I personally still have ken in my top 10. Even in first half his placements were great. He only had 2 double digits placements 25th and 13th. And he's beaten 5 top 10 players. Idk I'm a big ken fan so maybe it's my bias but I personally would have him in top 10

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

@@MannyForRealhe had some struggles in the first half especially having many unranked losses. Plus him vs the Top 10 isn’t exactly that great. He has an Acola and Sparg0 win sure but they still have the h2h and the only good h2h he had is vs Light but it’s 1-1

[@hecticmojo4532]

I petition for LG to sponsor Skyjay if he hasn’t been signed yet. I always feel like he’s missing from Leo and Maister

[@BasedMamaJames617]

Rip Proto

[@CBFJoseGazza]

I love Sonix bro he the goat fr 🐐

[@michaelkaiser6193]

Maister rollin in high ok i respec

[@Blackace141]

Tweek and light have played 9 times this year

[@wotsthis8148]

sonix did the superman youu

[@mikehumphrey3172]

Leo #1. Genesis X! It’s your destiny

[@SeanBroom-r3n]

Leo is the Best player of all time , but 2023 is à notre good year for he

[@benbarker1258]

Tweek still #1 in my heart

[@C-mereSSBU]

Maister, the "L" in "half" is silent.

[@igotthemunchies7292]

Why wouldn’t Acola b #1 lol let’s not be bias now

[@MrKakashi402]

leos keyboard is gorgeous

[@유지수-z2t]

Sonix is the only person that makes sonic look cool

[@kestrelynn]

Aww their disappointment with sparg0 at #2

[@triplemako4326]

glutto clearly top10 c'est le boss

[@nicholasgrudier6710]

Leo ur still our number 1

[@carlosmeza1967]

Maister looks a little bit stoned.

[@raularaizag]

I don't think Leo is washed, it is only that he got a bit too comfortable and started playing bad characters because he could beat people with them, but Byleth's ceiling is lower that Joker's, if he kept evolving Joker he'd probably be higher, we can't do anything but see what's his new potential with it. I'm glad he's playing it again.

[@shoryusenkei3136]

I mean Leo vs Acola is 1-1 Leo won Ludwig invitational vs him and won that event any Acola won at Summit 6 and the whole event.

[@erickaguirre4888]

It's actually 2-1 Leo defeated him two times at Ludwig's invitational

[@corgitoergosum8400]

LMAO they thought Tweek would be fourth, are they stupid?

[@sayther01]

Steve should be banned or balanced

[@NaughtyPigMario]

tweek didnt have a shot to be 4th when there's the 4 hoursemen lol

[@Babykarats]

HI GUYS

[@SiyeiFaraj]

Sad, steve ruining runs

[@BryGuyJohn]

Acola literally auto loses anytime he meets #2 or #3 in bracket and he’s supposed to be #1 in the world? lol what a joke.

[@jeilastnamejei5831]

name all of acolas non top 20 losses, quickly

[@NaughtyPigMario]

and who tf r u again? lol

[@BryGuyJohn]

@@jeilastnamejei5831 name all of Acola’s Spargo wins in 2023, quickly

[@名前なし-x2l]

@@BryGuyJohn and name any major that acola placed less than 8th, exactly no even one , on the other hand sparg0 had 49th 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Fpl8646]

Riddles is not top 15