MLB Has An EJECTION Problem

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@Goose7432
@Goose7432 4 ай бұрын
You change one letter in the title and suddenly it’s weird
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
💀
@jackwright7044
@jackwright7044 4 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@RainerWarrior666
@RainerWarrior666 4 ай бұрын
MLS?
@joshhardison3106
@joshhardison3106 4 ай бұрын
I believe that issue might be the underlying reason why the one the video is discussing exists in the first place lol
@Goose7432
@Goose7432 4 ай бұрын
@@RainerWarrior666 Yeah your right!
@tqnohe
@tqnohe 4 ай бұрын
A couple of weeks ago, Jomboy featured an ejection where the umpire threw someone out. “Who? Who did you throw out?” He had simply pointed at the dugout and tossed someone out. “I don’t know. Someone has to go.” “Who?” He had no idea. These ejections come with fines and sometimes suspensions. Umpires must have a damned good reason or they need to pay the fine. “Looking at me with a smile on his face after I made a questionable call” (aka showing me up) is not a good reason.
@hondocalrissian1918
@hondocalrissian1918 4 ай бұрын
Umpire get their feelings hurt waaaaaaaay to easy, it’s like they are teenage girls. I officiate football and basketball, have done so for the last 20 years. In that time span, In basketball - I have tossed 2 coaches and 3 players. In football, none for conduct but a few for illegal hits to the head. Yes, it’s two different sports compared to baseball but as an official - setting the tone by making the correct call sets the tone. I actually had a conversation with a former umpire asking me why I didn’t toss a player because he started using colorful metaphors at me, I simply told him I don’t take it personal, he is just upset and warning him before I “T” him up usually helps the situation or telling him I will watch for it next time or admit you missed the call. MLB needs to tell their umpires to stop getting their hurt.
@eymannreport4177
@eymannreport4177 4 ай бұрын
what's worse is that the league office is threatening suspensions if players and managers don't cool it
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
And the umpires just get a stern talking to if they were wrong!
@daywalkingvampire1521
@daywalkingvampire1521 4 ай бұрын
the sad part is that a player can't even talk about the officials either without mlb issuing retaliatory fines against coaches and players
@nelsonporter8387
@nelsonporter8387 4 ай бұрын
@@daywalkingvampire1521 why do they need to say anything ? Did Hank, Willy’, Roberto, Bob, or Sandy bitch about every call to reporters? No. These clowns now complain if the wind is blowing. Kudos to the umpires!! And the league!
@tvideo1189
@tvideo1189 4 ай бұрын
@@nelsonporter8387 EXACTLY RIGHT.
@cantprocess
@cantprocess 3 ай бұрын
@@nelsonporter8387when did you play or umpire? Just using your own logic.
@WyattsWorld100
@WyattsWorld100 4 ай бұрын
When the A.I. Ump throws out Alex Cora for saying poopy
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
How’s 6th place in fantasy baseball buddy
@King-03530
@King-03530 4 ай бұрын
that jt ejection in SPRING TRAINING was the worst one i’ve ever seen in my life so absurdly bad. Umpires have just become toxic and want to control the game these days it’s just so annoying because of the point you made people come to watch in person or on tv to watch their favorite players when they get thrown out then the umpires completely take the fun out the game and people start to lose interest. Need to take some notes on hockey refs 🗿
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Ik. That one still makes me just wonder what was Happening in that man’s brain
@robertdouth8979
@robertdouth8979 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk JT's only ejection ever. That's crazy.
@HealeyBrianT
@HealeyBrianT 4 ай бұрын
The umpires in ST are just like most of the players who play there. Minor leaguers.
@FAB_GNC
@FAB_GNC 4 ай бұрын
This umpire didn’t survive this ejection. ‘Nuff said.
@pieguyepic45
@pieguyepic45 3 ай бұрын
Add in that previously at that at bat when JT asked for a ball the ump threw to Birdman. So the next time when he doesn't feel it coming JT assumes "oh umps throwing it" it's some BS
@Traestaree
@Traestaree 4 ай бұрын
I'm 43 seconds in and you've already made a key incorrect assertion - there are rules governing ejections, and after watching every single ejection this season on close call sports, all but maybe 2 were the result of one of these rules being violated, with the other two being ejections that were because the umpire thought the player or manager violated a rule and didn't bother checking to see if it was in fact that player or manager.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Did I say anywhere that most ejections aren’t justified? If I did I didn’t mean to, most of them definitely are, like at least 90% of them, BUT the “rules” stopping ejections can be broken literally whenever the umpire feels like it. There’s no one really governing them. Even if they do after the game A LITTLE BIT, it could still ruin a game because of how they reacted in the moment.
@Knyghted11
@Knyghted11 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk Right the ump can eject and after the game say my bad. The dude who commented just wants to argue. Good video
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
relax, the umps aren't going to have sex with you. and your never going to make it the the MLB as an Ump.
@nelsonporter8387
@nelsonporter8387 4 ай бұрын
It’s not an ejection problem-it’s a respect problem of the players!
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
@@nelsonporter8387 the umps are pretty disrespectful to the players as well. its an Ump's have to big of an ego and to thin of skin.
@Hakusrequiem
@Hakusrequiem 4 ай бұрын
Here’s a fix. If an umpire ejects someone they are now contractually obliged to do media time after the game and explain themselves.
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 4 ай бұрын
99% of ejections are fully deserved. Mostly because Players and managers are utterly ignorant of the rules. In reality MLB have a out of control players/Mangers problem. As an example Torey Lovullo got ejected yesterday arguing a pitch that was literally Middle Middle. The ammount of players that lose their minds over a pitch either correct or within a half inch of being correct is insane. That said I agree that the 1% of bad Ejections should have reprecussions.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I also agree that at least 95% of ejections are perfectly fair. But those 1-5% that aren’t are VERY VERY bad
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk I don't mind a bad ejection, so long as it has consequences. Everyone makes a mistake, but you shouldn't compound you mistake with a further mistake and not get called to task for it.
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 4 ай бұрын
That number is way too high. Umps pull the ejection handle far too often. The thing is there is zero menaningful oversight. My solution? Make umps stay after the game to hand-write a report justifying ejections to the Commissioner. If its not worth the ump's time to write it up afterward, its not worth the ejection. The reports can even be secret. Just make the umps think "Is this worth 15 minutes and writer's cramp?"
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
@@MGower4465 players get fined when they are ejected, umps should get fines when their egos get bruised and they toss someone for nothing.
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 4 ай бұрын
@@MGower4465 I totally disagree I watch Close Calls Sports, so i've seen every ejection for the last 3 years at least it's extremely rare for an umpire to pull the trigger unless a player or manager steps over the very well drawn lines of behaviour. Don't make it personal - You can say that was a ball, you can't say YOU suck at your job and you definately can't sware at them. You know normal behaviours that are expected in ANY workplace.
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet 4 ай бұрын
I remember one clip where a hit batter argued with the umpire when the pitcher was ejected. It was quite funny.
@CiscoJedi
@CiscoJedi 4 ай бұрын
Allow the 2 managers to get together and eject an umpire! That will make the umps think twice about ejecting players and making bad (Hernandez-like) calls as well.
@MXSHYYYY
@MXSHYYYY 4 ай бұрын
Goofy
@lucieleimbach
@lucieleimbach 4 ай бұрын
Never will happen.
@SirWulfrick
@SirWulfrick 4 ай бұрын
We're fast approaching the extinction of umpires because they've managed to go from "humanly-flawed" to "complete crap but we're untouchable gods."
@mr_sm0k3y60
@mr_sm0k3y60 4 ай бұрын
The stupidest ejection that I have heard about is thatan umpire makes an ejection motion but doesn't know who he ejected. After they realized no one should be ejected they stated that someone "needs" to be ejected from the game and told the manager just to choose someone in the dugout to be ejected.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Ik like why is the motion like the end all be all of power, just because he called “safe” doesn’t mean that can’t be fixed, so why does an ejection motion HAVE to throw someone out
@margaretjiantonio939
@margaretjiantonio939 4 ай бұрын
Umpires are the main reason we, the fans, pay all that money just to see the star players get thrown out of the game.
@Brent-Tanabe
@Brent-Tanabe 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't just say an ejection problem. More like a umpires union problem. Umpires are getting worse & worse with their performance & attitudes but because of the umpires union MLB cant do much about it. The umpires need to be disciplined & held accountable for their bad actions!
@26ColinBarth26
@26ColinBarth26 4 ай бұрын
I'm an umpire and i have coaches get mad at me all the time, i dont eject them because I'm not very sensitive unlike mlb umpires, still waiting for that first ejection😅 BTW great video, i agree with everything you said
@rachelnew9131
@rachelnew9131 3 ай бұрын
the umpire that ejected the player for moving the on deck circle needs to grow a since of hummer
@ItsJonBaca
@ItsJonBaca 4 ай бұрын
It needs to be majority of umpires saying you should be ejected to be ejected. Three of the four need to eject someone. Umps have proven they can no longer be trusted. Too many narcissists.
@zachansen8293
@zachansen8293 4 ай бұрын
This is not right at all. There are absolutely guidelines that are followed by umps for ejections.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
They don’t follow them, therefore they aren’t real
@USAbaseball99
@USAbaseball99 4 ай бұрын
The umpires are so soft people are getting ejected for saying nothing we want to see are favorite players play
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
They are extremely soft
@Ninjollie
@Ninjollie 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalktoo soft, but they cant replace them it takes 7 years minimum to become an mlb ump, and thats very rare mlb would 100% replace them but they unfortunately can’t
@HealeyBrianT
@HealeyBrianT 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely false. Other than Anthony Rendon getting tossed by Marty Foster, players get tossed for something they said. How do you not toss a guy who is supposedly "walking away" but turns quickly and obviously says something vulgar or inappropriate. You get tossed. Simple.
@USAbaseball99
@USAbaseball99 4 ай бұрын
@@HealeyBrianT but like in Harper’s case he calmly said something about there umps zone and got tossed. Also in prior years they didn’t eject them so quickly
@Michael-gu5kl
@Michael-gu5kl 4 ай бұрын
@@USAbaseball99 do you think that is the case as you don't think that they add a certain word to the things that their saying to get tossed?
@vergee4068
@vergee4068 4 ай бұрын
if you fine the umps for their bullshit like they fine the players it would stop almost immediately
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@joshhardison3106
@joshhardison3106 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, if they set up a review process after the game handled by an outside party where umps could be fined or sidelined for so many games after making a frivolous ejection they'd at least think twice before they tossed someone and it'd cut out a lot of these heat of the moment ego trips.
@marrzy
@marrzy 4 ай бұрын
Man the amount of inaccuracies in this video is amazing. Please do more research. For 1 Beltre wasn’t moving away from the foul ball he moved the circle closer and was basically in view of the pitcher. The clip you showed even shows him moving closer.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
He pulled it away from the umpire i meant, he was trying to not get hit by a foul ball, the angle where he was standing made it very difficult to get hit, where the circle was made it much easier. He was not doing it to get in the eyes of the pitcher it was 100% bc he was in a safer spot, the game was 18-6, he was not trying to steal signs for his teammate 💀
@alonzobean1
@alonzobean1 4 ай бұрын
What I would love to see is if an unjust ejection happened, every player on that team said something to umpire to get ejected. Leaving no one to play.
@Mikepun51
@Mikepun51 3 ай бұрын
For the John Lackey one, the umpires shouldn't have thrown him out because it was on purpose, but because he lacked ball control. I remember that happened during a Rays-Yankees game, the pitcher hit three Rays in an inning and the umpires tossed him because his ball control sucked.
@agentflush388
@agentflush388 3 ай бұрын
I have to disagree. If they wanted the problem to stop, owners would tell managers “Stfu or you’re fired” & managers would say the same to players.
@tycro23
@tycro23 3 ай бұрын
When the intro is more than 25% off the total video. Just old clip we all seen before with a boring voice over.
@TheAbele992
@TheAbele992 2 ай бұрын
Yeah he kinda sucks
@retiredatforty
@retiredatforty 2 ай бұрын
It’s largely a rule problem, and mostly stems from bad calls at the plate. The idea that you can’t calmly say, “C’mon, that one was a little low, Bob” without being tossed is insane. Especially in an era of computers giving us instant feedback on each call behind the plate. They should put up on the Jumbotron every pitch immediately after the call, including the box drawn onscreen, so the umpires get immediate feedback and tighten up their calls themselves. That alone would stop a lot of this. The players see their errors writ large on the Jumbotron, so why not the umps’?
@umpingwithrpg
@umpingwithrpg 4 ай бұрын
Can you now post a video covering all (dozens) the Emails and Training videos the MLB/NCAA/NFHS sends to Umpires Telling them that coach and player behavior has gotten out of hand and telling Umpires to be less tolerant.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I don’t have access to those emails. So not really
@BrundonC
@BrundonC 4 ай бұрын
Another great video! The audio still has that issue. But your content is so good I don’t care! Keep them coming man!
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I recorded that video before your last comment! I’m going to look into my mic tonight to try to fix it. Thank you again!
@BrundonC
@BrundonC 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk You're killing it with content though man! This time next year you'll be one of the big ones!
@richardwhite4923
@richardwhite4923 4 ай бұрын
I can’t even watch baseball anymore. The MLB has ruined the game. Especially the umpires.
@Tal_Spotting
@Tal_Spotting 4 ай бұрын
Angel Hernandez biting the curb 8k
@BlooketWarriorYT
@BlooketWarriorYT 4 ай бұрын
2 days ago Cleveland Guardians vs Seattle Mariners well 2 people from Mariners got ejected from the game and let the Guardians win 8-0
@coryboedeker6300
@coryboedeker6300 4 ай бұрын
Im just waiting for a team to just pack up their gear and leave mid game.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think sponsors would like that at all
@fiveoh51
@fiveoh51 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't bother the umpires one bit. They get paid regardless
@KHFN_YT
@KHFN_YT 4 ай бұрын
​@@fiveoh51Yeah but the MLB would pay thousands in refunds and havw to deal with the aftermath
@MXSHYYYY
@MXSHYYYY 4 ай бұрын
It’s become a no tolerance for who I work for. That’s how bad baseball parents are 😂
@Rick-jf6sg
@Rick-jf6sg 4 ай бұрын
As a general rule, professional baseball players and managers have never been the brightest bulbs on the planet, and more and more of them have attitudes as well. Sadly, it seems an increasing number of umpires have chips on their shoulders (and rabbit ears) too, so you've got a volatile relationship anyway. I wish all these folks would exhibit more self-control.
@city6291
@city6291 4 ай бұрын
Theres no professional sports league in the world that allows referees to just eject anybody for any reason.
@bigbens33
@bigbens33 4 ай бұрын
Like gockey fights, many fans look forward to ejections and the antics that happen. It's not a problem at all
@H8rProof
@H8rProof 4 ай бұрын
MLB has an overall umpiring issue which is really stupid in the game where officials could most easily be replaced by machines. The baseball umpire has been an outdated concept for years now. No idea why they still exist.
@samuelkawer
@samuelkawer 4 ай бұрын
Angel hernandez and Ian kinsler
@XenoFireStar
@XenoFireStar 4 ай бұрын
The Beltre thing was him trying to be closer to home plate, not further away. He was told to move away because it could be distracting to the pitcher.
@VoidStaredBack
@VoidStaredBack 4 ай бұрын
Judge getting ejected was a real head scratcher. The most that man ever says is "really?" and just gets back in the box. He rarely even says a word on bad calls low in the zone by his ankles and that happens all the time. Umps got big heads i.e. Angel Hernandez, may he enjoy retirement far from a baseball field
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
On that ejection he was talking a lot to be fair. But he was walking away, a player should never be ejected while walking away imo
@HealeyBrianT
@HealeyBrianT 4 ай бұрын
He calls the umpire and the call itself "horseshit". Ejectable offense 100% of the time.
@KHFN_YT
@KHFN_YT 4 ай бұрын
Bro is commenting all of riding the umps like your life depends on it. Umps are soft its fine to say that and they make mistakes and should be called out. Stop meatriding​@@HealeyBrianT
@kfizz21
@kfizz21 3 ай бұрын
From an umpire’s perspective: I agree that ejections should be able to be reviewed by the crew before becoming official. HARD disagree on both Beltre and the fans. Beltre was showing up the umpire when moving the on deck circle, and definitely deserved to be tossed, regardless of game situation. Fans can be brutal. If you don’t believe me, go umpire a middle school or little league game. We HAVE to be able to police the worst of the worst, because often the stadium crew or the game officials present don’t have any real idea what is being said or done by the fans in question.
@maxable9128
@maxable9128 3 ай бұрын
There are very specific standards for removal/ejection and the umpires write very detailed reports for their ejections. Some of the standards for removal are dumb, but that’s an MLB issue not an umpire issue.
@jeremystone3961
@jeremystone3961 4 ай бұрын
I'm an umpire that works high school games and down (and some adult leagues, not professional) and in 13 seasons, I'll bet I've ejected less than 6 players/coaches. I don't want to effect the game, and if I handle an objection properly, it rarely escalates. Realizing that, yeah, I might have made a questionable judgement call, I can see the side of the players/coaches involved. As long as I'm approached with a little respect, I can let them vent. Name calling, swearing AT me, and similar action probably won't be tolerated. Be angry, but be respectful. I've had wayyyyyyyy too many partners want to eject people.
@Gadi2013
@Gadi2013 3 ай бұрын
I mean just banned ejections like it’s annoying
@leighreganarblaster9852
@leighreganarblaster9852 4 ай бұрын
The world baseball federation need set ejection rules. Ejection shouldn’t be up ump because a unp o umpires could be got up the wrong side of bed or got something against the pl
@roakldp
@roakldp 4 ай бұрын
I like the requirements of consensus from the ump crew on ejections. If we’re going to a challenge system, it would get a ton of pushback from the umpire’s union but I think there needs to be some sort of accountability mechanism. Maybe if you try to eject someone and it’s overturned, you yourself are suspended without pay from your next scheduled game.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I feel like maybe the challenge system is too far, but getting together and talking about what was said SEEMS like a good idea
@jeffa818
@jeffa818 4 ай бұрын
What the video fails to take into account is the fact that sometimes the umpires’ asses are in the jackpot.
@colinhall7247
@colinhall7247 4 ай бұрын
Maybe mic up the umpire like in Rugby
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 4 ай бұрын
I htink the best solution is to create some clearly defined rules on what offenses constitute and ejection. For example, in the NHL, if a player instigates a fight, is called for a 5 minute major match penalty (attempting to injure an opponent), or a penalty with an automatic game misconduct attached to it, the player's gone, otherwise, the refs have no authority to boot a player from the game. Same goes for Soccer, Football, Basketball, etc, they all have clear rules surrounding ejections that's not just the ref "felt like it".
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
um, i get what your saying but in hockey if you instigate a fight is a 5 min fighting and a 2 min instigator. you don't get tossed from the game. at most a player will get a 10 min misconduct for yelling at a ref, but the refs have very thick skin in the NHL.
@robertmcnearny9222
@robertmcnearny9222 4 ай бұрын
Also, Lackey was clearly throwing at the hitter. Good ejection.
@re-dacted.
@re-dacted. 4 ай бұрын
They need an unbiased review booth that supersedes the umpires.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Agreed with that
@mikefriedman593
@mikefriedman593 3 ай бұрын
The umpires have a massive ego problem and MLB needs to step in and fire umpires one by one and clean house until they get the message. I am wondering if minor league umpires have this massive ego? They are off to a good start getting rid of Angel Hernandez. Now CB Buckner and others must go. A manager or player can not even speak to them anymore. As you say in the video, If I pay money to see a game, I would not want to have a star I pay to see be ejected in the first inning.
@KnickKnack07
@KnickKnack07 4 ай бұрын
No...they have an entitled player and manager problem. And an "I'm an idiot with a failed KZbin channel about baseball even though I know nothing about the sport
@ericchester9828
@ericchester9828 3 ай бұрын
First off, this is one of the biggest reasons I don't like baseball! Second, if you want to change it, just sending it to a vote among the other refs will not change anything, due to biases within refs. If a lead and seasoned ref decides to throw out someone, then the rest of the refs will likely vote with them just to keep their job (in most accounts). If you want to change this policy, first be clear in the rule book what would qualify an ejection. Then, set up an unbias committee to look into the circumstances surrounding the ejection, and punish the ref who made the call. And if enough bad calls are made, then a firing of the ump! If a player can get cut for bad play, then the refs should also, and this should be all sports not just baseball!
@scorpiodave65
@scorpiodave65 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. You should do a video on umpires who touch players and managers. If a player or manager cannot make contact with an umpire, wtf gives the umpires the right to touch players? Laz Diaz is the biggest culprit. If a manager argues with an umpire, there is no reason for another umpire to intervene. Let them argue like men. It seems as if the umpire needs his bf or bff to bail him out. The manager has the right to argue, so the umpire should hear him out instead of walking away while the other umpire blocks or holds the manager. Umpires have become soft wussies.
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 4 ай бұрын
One thing about these umpires I don't like, is when the player looks back and then umpire will thrown a player out, like what the hell, seriously, just because someone looks at you doesn't mean throw the person out of the game, that's just plain ridiculous and plain dumb, those players and coaches has the rights to be upset
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean, you cannot LOOK at another human! Are you crazy????
@GoNDIr1sh
@GoNDIr1sh 3 ай бұрын
An ejection in the WS has happened 7 years ago, Davey Martinez Nats vs Astros
@Narutowatcher465
@Narutowatcher465 4 ай бұрын
I agree, the umps shouldn't be able to eject a fan, they're not really a part of the game. It should be up to the stadium security instead.
@matteocarlini27
@matteocarlini27 4 ай бұрын
Well I agree with the Tuner ejection. If an Umpire tells a player to stop, the next word he says, he’s gone. Doesn’t matter.
@maddog6767
@maddog6767 4 ай бұрын
Ump called it a foul ball and still called it a foul ball when it was fair and was a home rum. Hit ball that hit any part of foul pole is a fair ball and a home run
@CyrusBrunner
@CyrusBrunner 3 ай бұрын
UMPIRES ARE MAKING BASEBALL WORSE WHEN IT COMES TO CLUB,TRAVEL,LITTLE LEAGUE, AND MAJORS
@AOOA926
@AOOA926 4 ай бұрын
Simple yet perfect title and thumbnail
@AOOA926
@AOOA926 4 ай бұрын
Inspired by BDE right?
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
How could I not be inspired by him, he is the best baseball youtuber on the platform!
@devonballgaming
@devonballgaming 4 ай бұрын
Give umpires a season ejection limit. Say they only get like 18 ejections in a season.
@christhayer5498
@christhayer5498 4 ай бұрын
Naw it just needs to go period. Since instant replay has been in use the dugout is basically arguing strikes and balls now. Incorporate the automated balls and strikes or challenge of pitch and elections will go almost to zero.
@chaseeubanks1538
@chaseeubanks1538 4 ай бұрын
@@christhayer5498You must’ve not seen the triple an ejection last year over balls and strikes on a fully automated game.And in the Florida State League (Low A) there are ejections and complaints even with the system being used to challenge.
@christhayer5498
@christhayer5498 4 ай бұрын
@chaseeubanks1538 yeah I don't pay to much attention to lower levels. Question is how much have ejections gone down since it's been implemented? Ejections just need to go period and only reserved for touching an ump or bench brawls.
@ghijkmnop
@ghijkmnop 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure John Lackey had thrown about 5000 pitches in rehab plus a minor league loss before that start. Those definitely weren't the first two pitches he'd thrown in six months.
@jaredblahnik3125
@jaredblahnik3125 4 ай бұрын
Try “MLB has an AUTHORITY problem”
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
It’s both. But I like the word ejection more
@jamiemcfall2523
@jamiemcfall2523 4 ай бұрын
WHEN THE UMPS HAVE MONEY ON THE GAME
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Probably not
@Ninjollie
@Ninjollie 4 ай бұрын
it’s probably illegal
@Lasxrcsto
@Lasxrcsto 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalkoh you mean like the ump that was just suspended for just that?
@michelangelocaruncho8571
@michelangelocaruncho8571 Ай бұрын
I agree yes the umpires are way to quick to eject it’s kind of ridiculous but at the same time the players are childish little pansies and should also know when it’s the right time to talk back to an umpire and not do it with every single strike call. Baseball needs to grow up a bit in general
@Robbyspov
@Robbyspov 4 ай бұрын
I was an umpire for an 8u coach pitch game. Keep in mind, i was 14. This coach that i had thrown out, wasn't even a coach, he was the commissioner of this team. Keep in mind that this coach was one of the rudest and most unintelligent person i have ever met. He started arguing a foul tip call, (him saying it was a foul) and it was clear that the ball was on the ground, as the batter swung above his head. He started going on a rant saying that I have to be at least 18. The rule in my county says that all umpires can be 13 or over. He dropped one F- bomb, i warned him. he said "You're just a kid, you have no authority." and then proceeded to curse me out. At this point the only thing I said was "Sir, You're going to be embarrassed if you do not stop" he says "Try me mother f---er" so I threw him out. Funny how a kid can act more mature than adults.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Well in that situation you were more than justified to eject that unruly “adult” You handled the situation very well and were definitely professional there. That’s the umpiring we like to see
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
no fan is ever removed from a game. if the ump tosses a fan "out" the stadium staff just moves them somewhere else, away from the ump. the fastest way for this to stop is when an ump tosses a player for no reason every fan should make for the gates and demand a refund because they didn't pay to see the refs. a few games of having to give back 100s of 1k of dollars and the loss in sales will make the owners tell the league to do something about it.
@Michael-gu5kl
@Michael-gu5kl 4 ай бұрын
NOT TRUE they have been removed from the stadium by security! I would like to know where this happens! What makes you think that there isn't a reason why players get tossed! Why don't you go and umpire a game and let me start heckling you as a fan and see how long it is before you remove me!
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
@@Michael-gu5kl first no, they are moved by security not removed by security. second I wouldn't toss you because I could care less what you think. third no UMP is going to have sex with you, you can stop white knighting for them. oh and I never said there isn't a reason players get tossed, I said umps toss most players because their egos get hurt.
@Michael-gu5kl
@Michael-gu5kl 4 ай бұрын
@@justinmiller5660 maybe so but let it get to the point that they talk about you or your family or even go up to you and threaten you after a game! Oh and your wrong about that cause I have friends who work security at games and they are removed from the venue. Get your FACTS straight!
@justinmiller5660
@justinmiller5660 4 ай бұрын
@@Michael-gu5kl maybe drunks are, but not anyone else. i have friends who own MLB team and they never remove paying fans. see I can make shit up to.
@Michael-gu5kl
@Michael-gu5kl 4 ай бұрын
@@justinmiller5660 Nice try I'm not making anything up as I seen a couple of fans who were removed from a Triple A game recently! Besides why would they remove them from one section to another section in the stadium for when that wouldn't make any sense?
@kpg-uo1tm
@kpg-uo1tm 4 ай бұрын
Did you sat that the rules were changed in 1989 allowing umpires to eject players? Did I hear that right?
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 3 ай бұрын
1889*
@Phillies3240
@Phillies3240 4 ай бұрын
Umps are anoying
@allenbong9793
@allenbong9793 4 ай бұрын
lane thomas getting the boot because he LOOKED at an umpire is still baffling to me
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I would’ve added that one but I recorded this video around a week ago
@joshhardison3106
@joshhardison3106 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, I sit out down the rf line a lot when I go to Nats games and Lane is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet, he's never given anyone a reason to eject him. If you watch it closely and read his lips you can see the ump lying to Davey about Lane supposedly saying something too, Kevin Frandsen even called him out about it on the broadcast lol. That one really pissed me off, those guys are playing the best they have so far this season and that dbag broke their winning streak over his fragile ego.
@samuelkawer
@samuelkawer 4 ай бұрын
You should be allowed to challenge ejections
@ryansteele2677
@ryansteele2677 3 ай бұрын
Players and coaches know what they're doing when they get tossed 99 percent of the time... Pete Rose was ejected on a day the stadium was handing out posters of him. He was ejected bc he told the umpire he needed to go back to umpire school. After the game, he sent an autographed poster to the umpire with the message, keep up the good work. It was the umpire's first season and Rose was testing him... These are professionals who have spent their lives around the game... They know you can't argue balls and strikes. They know if they walk away while they say something inappropriate it will make the umpire look bad to the crowd when they get tossed. They know you can't showboat (like dragging an on deck circle after being instructed to stand on it) ... these men know what they're doing and when you start bashing the umpires for doing their job, congratulations, you have been successfully manipulated by those players... ...all that being said, mistakes are made and we've seen a couple this year with judge getting tossed for the Fan's words and the catcher getting tossed for moving his glove... But those were legit mistakes that were understandable from the umpire's perspective... I wouldn't be opposed to some kind of mechanic by which to undo an ejection for cases like those, but they are truly outliers... They know what they are doing when they get themselves tossed...
@ikigai47
@ikigai47 3 ай бұрын
Umps: *_MUH FEELINGS! YER OUTTA HERE!!!_*
@nick0875
@nick0875 4 ай бұрын
3:37 Thats what Jomboy Media is for, figuring out what is being said when incidents happen.
@PaulMaglio-g6z
@PaulMaglio-g6z 4 ай бұрын
Two of the most problematic umpires, Joe West and Angel Hernandez have gone, but unfortunately, many unfit for the job remain. I wouldn't consider paying to go to a MLB game at present-too many fragile egos and power tripping fools amongst the umpiring crews. The blame has to go to MLB administration for lacking the balls to go toe to toe with the umpires union that protects these incompetents. MLB must have more tools and ways of dealing with the clown umpires who take away from the game. I apologize to all professional clowns out there for the comparison.
@guppybill
@guppybill 3 ай бұрын
6:26 There was history behind the Lackey ejection. Lots of juicy baseball history.
@tadmartinson1147
@tadmartinson1147 4 ай бұрын
The Beltre one was because he wasn’t in the circle, he was standing closer to the batter than the circle
@Famijoly
@Famijoly 4 ай бұрын
Davey Martinez was ejected during Game 6 of the 2019 World Series. It hasn't been 28 years since the last World Series ejection.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Player ejection**
@matteocarlini27
@matteocarlini27 4 ай бұрын
Let me say this, it’s the Umpires discretion to eject a pitcher on whether or not they deemed it intentional. If you think it’s intentional than ejecting the pitcher is warned as well as the Manager.
@TheSimCaptain
@TheSimCaptain 3 ай бұрын
This is what makes baseball a joke. No proper rules, just opinions or hurt feelings of umps deciding games.
@aquaispoggers1902
@aquaispoggers1902 3 ай бұрын
i totally agree with the fans statement if you have an issue with a fan talk to security in my opinion
@sundaygolfer79
@sundaygolfer79 4 ай бұрын
They have a pitch cl9ck problem
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
The pitch clock literally doesn’t matter bro
@sundaygolfer79
@sundaygolfer79 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk yes, it does. But I respect your opinion
@mahasw777
@mahasw777 4 ай бұрын
Not even gonna waste my time. I went as far into the video as when it said that there aren’t any rules regarding ejection. That’s flat out untrue.
@deansmoker4853
@deansmoker4853 4 ай бұрын
People are already trying to get the umpires replaced by computers. You'd think they would smarten up if they dont wanna lose their spot altogether! People are at the stadium to watch baseball, not power tripping umps!
@hockeydawg5868
@hockeydawg5868 4 ай бұрын
there was a world series ejection in 2019…davey martinez had an absolute meltdown in game 6
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Yes sir, I should’ve specified I meant player ejection!
@13randydandy
@13randydandy 4 ай бұрын
Brice Harper deserves to be ejected, simply because he's Brice Harper.
@Bbabybear02
@Bbabybear02 4 ай бұрын
I disagree, The biggest problem I have with this (and why I believe we need MORE Ejections in MLB and other sports) is because ,In the social media Era, many players have become spoiled and entitled. Do we really want that behavior to be shown to kids that see many of these athletes as role models
@gregmead2967
@gregmead2967 3 ай бұрын
To all the people saying that this or that ejection was justified because the player "broke the rules", I think that maybe it's time to review the rules. I really fail to see how "showing up the umpire" should be an ejectable offense. Umps aren't gods. Maybe (since MLB seems to be so concerned about how long games take), time a player's rant. If he rants and screams for more than, say, 15 seconds, then toss him. The ump could stand there with a stopwatch and say, "OK, you've got 15 seconds." Player or manager blows off steam, game resumes, and no harm, no foul. Right now, to run a professional baseball player, who the team may be depending on, at the whim of a thin-skinned ump, is absurd. Also, each and every ejection should be reviewable by a team of players, management, and umps. The umps should be fined (like the players) for unjust ejections.
@URAWESOME94
@URAWESOME94 4 ай бұрын
Ejections or disqualification is something that’s been in the rule book for decades. Just about anyone in the entire stadium can be removed. They’ve changed the way pitchers get tossed. A meeting with the crew has to happen before a pitcher is removed. No more rogue home plate umpires tossing immediately based on opinion.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
I thought only if there were warnings it had to be discussed? Maybe I’m wrong though, either way everything should be a discussion
@URAWESOME94
@URAWESOME94 4 ай бұрын
@@peskytalk nope. They initially stopped the home plate umpire from unilateral ejections of pitchers but no warnings are necessary. Only a crew meeting. I think requiring a crew meeting for every ejection would be a bit much. While some umpires are a bit too soft and go overboard, they’re the living rule book and only authority on the field. They’re supposed to keep good order and enforce the rules. Their authority comes straight from the commissioner. The problem is out of control umpires aren’t held accountable enough.
@sportsloverbaseball
@sportsloverbaseball 4 ай бұрын
An arguing pitcher doesn’t require a pitcher ejection I thought. I thought it was just if a warning was being discussed or if they needed to throw the pitcher out for intentionally throwing at a batter.
@URAWESOME94
@URAWESOME94 4 ай бұрын
@@sportsloverbaseball a pitcher arguing is definitely something to get ejected over. It’s in the rules that objecting to any call by an umpire can be grounds for an ejection. Written in the rules probably a hundred years ago. The sport was meant to be a gentlemanly game where you left the dirt kicking tantrums up to your manager. Players were to do their best and leave the rest to their coaches and the umpires. If the president of the United States was in the stands heckling, he could be ejected too.
@sportsloverbaseball
@sportsloverbaseball 4 ай бұрын
@@URAWESOME94 I am aware. You stated that an umpire meeting must happen before a pitcher can get ejected. I am stating that a pitcher shouting and screaming profanities at an umpire over a missed call is ground for ejection and, in that case, the umpires would not convene.
@benjlar1902
@benjlar1902 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, all these “for not doing anything ejections” you’re right there is no hot mic’s so you don’t know if he didn’t say something to get ejected. You can’t argue balls and strikes simple as that. There are some ejections that aren’t warranted sure but a lot of the time it’s warranted.
@bidenproductions
@bidenproductions 4 ай бұрын
Now I will say there are repercussions that one umpire in spring training was fired!
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
That is true
@FAB_GNC
@FAB_GNC 4 ай бұрын
Bryce Harper, the biggest whiner in baseball, is a bad example. And there are protocols that should be followed, by rule. If the umpires fail to follow protocols they are disciplined accordingly.
@sinocte
@sinocte 4 ай бұрын
Simple. The offended ump can request an ejection, but another ump has to actually order it... So the offended one has to stop, think and EXPLAIN why he's so butthurt and get another ump to sign off on it.
@Jay_Force_One
@Jay_Force_One 4 ай бұрын
Fans cannot be ejected by an umpire by official MLB rule. Fans can only be removed by Ballpark management. Now, have umpires overstepped their authority and done it and nobody batted an eye? Yeah.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Oh really? That’s very interesting, thank you for letting me know!
@ghijkmnop
@ghijkmnop 4 ай бұрын
Awful lot of empty seats in that "fans flocked to see" Beltre game.
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
It was 18-6 in the 8th inning
@mbdg6810
@mbdg6810 4 ай бұрын
There *are* ejection rules but many times the umps don’t really follow them accurately
@peskytalk
@peskytalk 4 ай бұрын
Maybe but rules that don’t get followed aren’t real rules
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 4 ай бұрын
MLB umpires are betting on the games they call.
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