MLM HORROR STORIES #51 | Summer camp nurse using oils on children

[@yasmincurtis7511]

Hey there, I’m a doctor. Tea tree oil does show some evidence of having antibacterial/anti-inflammatory properties (many people use it for acne for this purpose). However, it is also a commonly known skin irritant that can cause contact dermatitis. It has also been implicated in having estrogenizing effects used long term (i.e. breast development, vaginal bleeding in prepubertal females, breast development in males). It is also very dangerous if ingested. This is the nuance lost on MLM essential oil peddlers who tout these oils as a cure all with no side effects.

[@josief5963]

I've tea tree oil a few ways (for acne, nail fungus, etc.) and I haven't had problems with it, but it didn't do anything either. However, I tried to use it in place of deodorant (it's a fairly common substitute) and it burned horribly. I can't imagine trying to put it on an open wound, and especially not on a child's open wound.

[@HeatherHunterJ]

I was totally advised to use tea tree oil and found out it irritates my asthma even though it worked on my skin 😂❤

[@metalcatmom5891]

Thankfully, YL essential oils are not very high quality so any kid Princess put the oil on was probably ok. Most essential oils are skin irritants and should NEVER be placed directly on the skin. Just like they should NEVER be ingested. I like using a bit of rose in my hair (I like the smell), but it is thoroughly diluted in jojoba oil so that it is safe for my skin and hair.

[@clairekortbawi5659]

Former MSN- & MPH-prepared public health research nurse. This isn't just an issue for MLMs, doctor, but also one that applies to the general public due to a lack of health literacy and a (largely superficial) substrata of preventive care via folk remedies. Being a JIPMER and St Joseph (Beirut) graduate, you'd think that I'd mean fellaheen out in the middle of nowhere or the dangers of Ayurvedic remedies, but I'm actually more shocked about it back home in North America. The audacity of marketing and stubborn arrogance of the undereducated, overconfident public leads to billions being spent on attempts at preventive care and therapeutic care that only harm. Even if the substance itself is harmless to one person, it may not be to those around them, to others to whom they may recommend it, and it is never harmless in terms of money wasted and ignorance reinforced. Access to care and proper primary prevention are both made more difficult by the essential oils, homeopathy, and "exotic" wellness industries (eg, botânicas, "Eastern medicine", detoxification trends, Ayurveda, &c). If healthcare is a war, they are the enemies' war profiteers.

[@magicmiya7545]

Tea tree oil also kills lice. Used it on my kiddos once, it worked great. I didn’t buy it from an MlM.

[@Shawna0108]

I see this was posted a year ago so I don’t know if you will see this, but as a Black educator I just want to say, you did a fantastic job explaining both micro aggressions and implicit bias. I actually teach an entire lesson on both subjects- which often time show up at the same time, with my group of high school students who are mostly BIPOC attending schools where majority of the staff does not look like them. So these are things they are facing daily and are important lessons to give them language to go with what they are experiencing. I know that you use to be in education yourself and just wanted to say 👏🏾👏🏾 YES!

[@sideshowratt]

The Princess story tripped my "serious mental illness" alarm, especially with the empty stroller. Science denialism and people who need major psychiatric help are a bad combination. I hope she has a safe person in her life who can intervene.

[@lindybabcock3786]

Agreed. I’m a doctor who delivers babies and we have patients come in occasionally thinking they’re very pregnant when they are not. A very sad subset of mental illness on many levels.

[@tiararoxeanne1318]

There's a possibility that she broke up with her partner due to her involvement in MLM. And it broke her because MLM that supposed to make her dream comes true shatter her dream instead. She refused to face reality, and instead she's trying to projecting her dream life while working in MLM.

[@tshepison8907]

One of the best descriptions of what a micro aggression is. Pretty much textbook in everything you said in how you explained it. You have a great way with putting sentences together off the top of your head that can be seen in all your videos! Keep doing the good work.

[@TheHitsubasa]

I’m glad you mentioned Farmacy as it is legitimate where as Farmasi is not.

[@lillyvaughn5398]

Farmacy is such a good brand!

[@crizmeow8394]

Farmasi sounds like a bootleg, not a real company lol

[@rachelingrisano9055]

@@lillyvaughn5398 It is fantastic. I suggest their face wash/melt to everyone!

[@lillyvaughn5398]

@@rachelingrisano9055 if you haven’t tried their Honeymoon Glow I highly recommend it!

[@britterization]

I love love love the honey halo but did have to Google make sure it wasn't the MLM lol

[@myfabulouslifewithlupus]

As a person of color, I truly appreciate the clear, kind and gentle way you explained micro-aggression. I am sure some light bulbs went of for some in this teachable moment. Thanks as always for sharing.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

The only "light bulb" that went off was a reminder of my terrible experiences with aggression at the hands of POC growing up in the Bronx. I got called tons of names for being White as did my sister and my nieces. We lived in NY and were the minority in our area growing up, and racism, cruelty and hatred was on full display. One of the worst things was that a lot of this happened in my Christian school where we were being pointedly taught to love one another. One of our Hispanic neighbors threw water out her window on us when we were just leaving the building. I can't tell you how many nasty names we got called in Spanish, too. Anyone can be racist whether they are Black, White or Asian. If you're hateful, you're hateful. That's a choice one makes with the full consent of their will and not anyone else's fault.

[@myfabulouslifewithlupus]

@@user-gd2ys5tu8d Please allow me say how sorry I am that you went through this needless torture while you were growing up. No one should have to experience what you did. I did thank Hannah for explaining what micro aggressions are and the lightbulbs going off are not those exclusively to non poc. In contrast to you, I was one of only four black kids in my entire graduating class of hundreds of kids in my Catholic elementary school. The neighbors in my neighborhood from age 5 to adult, those neighbors actually made a petition to the seller of the house to not sell the house to my parents (white mom black dad), in addition they tried to pool their money to buy the house so we couldn't purchase it. Thankfully the seller sold the house to my parents. Growing up bi-racial meant for me that I did not see my parents as "White Mom" and "Black Dad'. They were just Mom and Dad and to some extent I didn't really see that we were all different colors. I know that a little hard to believe that someone does not see a person's skin color but in all honesty, that was my experience in my younger years. My parents went through hell having just married one year after civil rights were established and I can't begin to understand what they went though. I just mention these things to illustrate that we ll have some experience with racism on some level. At the end of the day, this is not a contest to see who had it worst; pain is pain no matter what color you are. I hope you've found some healing in adulthood. Bless you.

[@hellenmuka7207]

​@@user-gd2ys5tu8d nice to make it about YOU...🙄

[@avalin247]

@@hellenmuka7207Why is that an issue? The topic is lightbulbs about micro aggressions. The first person was thanking for bringing the subject up and explaining discrimination. The second person added with a personal experience. Why is it wrong to add to a subject that is being discussed?

[@lexbel8394]

@@avalin247the second person seems to be sharing their experience as some type of rebuttal to refute the first commenter’s statement. They’re also decentering (I think that’s what it’s called) the important discussion about POC’s experiences, which is dismissive at best.

[@jane7of983]

My understanding is that you should never ever put oil on a burn blister. Products designed to treat burns help the affected areas cool down. Oils hold in the heat and can actually make burns worse. This is what I was taught in my Red Cross first aid class.

[@maryrichardson1318]

Yes, any oil and the heat already there from the burn, would literally "cook" the skin. Oil is for frying french fries.

[@jaeydnheeren]

bringing up racism, intentional or not, and micro-aggressions is an incredibly important and more people need to talk about it! sociology is one of my favourite topics to learn about and i think it should be a required class because these topics are covered and kids have the opportunity to learn about what micro aggressions are, how racism and sexism work in this society. thank you for bringing it up!

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

Yeah and how these aggressions can also happen by POC to White people, too. I grew up in an area of NYC where Black people were the majority population, and also Hispanic people mostly from Puerto Rico. NY has its neighborhoods and is vastly diverse. Thing is, even though POC are the majority in many many areas of NYC, they still exhibit racism and hatred towards others. Like the friction and hatred between Black people and Asian people in the area which is quite famous. My family and I got called a lot of racist names and attacked for the color of our skin. My sister was so terrorized and intimidated that she tried to tan her skin with those self tanners and went to the beach to bake herself to look darker and thus be more accepted. She almost died from those things because they blocked her pores and she swelled up very badly and was in so much pain. I don't think anyone should have to change themselves in any way to suit some stupid prejudices and bigotry of anyone else. I decided, after seeing how much my sister suffered trying to be accepted by the POC in her school who made fun of her for being White, that I would not try to change anything about myself for anyone, ever. I don't want to try to please people who are so cruel and evil. They don't deserve it, and I will not deny myself and who I am. No one should. No one needs to change their natural color or hair or body in any way to suit anyone else.

[@tarajh]

She explained it perfectly!

[@KaylieghHereford]

@@user-gd2ys5tu8d I'm so sorry that happened to you and your family :(

[@IzoInk]

Random but I’m so glad a kid is gonna have you as a mom, I love your patience in explaining challenging topics such as micro aggressions and your ability to explain them calmly and empathetically

[@JamesQMurphy]

This. Hannah is going to be an awesome mom!

[@crystalldaddy]

Straight up, the first thing I thought when Princess was walking around with an empty stroller in Walmart, was that she was fencing. When I worked retail for a large department store, we were taught to look out for fencers, aka people who shoplift from stores and then sell the stolen merchandise for profit. One of the common tactics we learned to watch out for was women with strollers but no baby. Often the stroller was a ruse: wrap the stolen merchandise in a blanket, put it in the stroller and walk out. Once we had well known fencer come in with a stroller, and when security searched it, they found the entire baby seat as lined in tin-foil, which, if the merchandise was wrapped up in it properly could stop sensors from going off. I'll bet you anything this is what Princess was doing.

[@tarajh]

Holy cats! That's fascinating! I've never heard of such a thing.

[@ravenm8623]

So glad you talked about micro aggressions. I deal with my hair being told it can be tamed or less frizzy a lot. While my profile shows my straight hair from years ago I’m living with my untamable curls daily.

[@ireneangelucci3733]

And then here I am, living for African curls 😍 so, so gorgeous

[@molekyyli]

As someone dealing with frizziness too (though I've never been told anything by anybody (well, I have a mirror), rather I hoped I could've gotten some advice (usable, not essential oils obviously), the frizzy look just affected my self-esteem badly), I'm currently trying to learn how to make them less frizzy. Looks like it's a learning curve. So far, the main achievement is less tangle issues. Not sure if I ever learn to like them, still longing for straight hair but well, can't have that. :/

[@ninawilson3132]

As the person who lived the experience of the crazy camp nurse... I had to share because I was watching this channel when she showed up.

[@meganivanyos3232]

Princess is going to give me nightmares. I question she was a legit nurse and maybe she was found out then fired.

[@Saburi0504]

Also, Dr. C Tuna?!? Sea tuna?! I feel like they had better options than naming something sea tuna

[@Rejistania]

They are not an English brand. They are Turkish.

[@Saburi0504]

@@Rejistania I’m fully aware of that. Just highlighting how it sounds to an English-speaking demographic.

[@Saint_Medusa]

@@Saburi0504 imma be honest a skincare brand called skin tuna or sea tuna low-key be quirky enough to get my money so they did missed a chance

[@lionfish2201]

Nah, this way we can all see something fishy. It’s spot on 😂

[@crizmeow8394]

Sea tuna sounds delicious…

[@PurpleT3a]

Thank you for addressing micro aggressions instead of just moving on from the point.

[@AgathaDrinksTea]

Admittedly I haven’t read my bible cover to cover yet, but I’m blanking on where Jesus talks about putting oils on your third eye…

[@rebekahjimenez2808]

Oh, yes. I believe that verse is Hezekiah 1137:86! 😂😂😂

[@Quagthistle]

It is common first aid knowledge that you never put oil of any kind on a burn. I'll quote just one website (Medline): "You may put a thin layer of ointment, such as petroleum jelly or aloe vera, on the burn. The ointment does not need to have antibiotics in it. Some antibiotic ointments can cause an allergic reaction. Do not use cream, lotion, oil, cortisone, butter, or egg white."

[@mooniemoons]

Hannah's plant in the back ready to walk out after having heard so many MLM stories 😂

[@JamesQMurphy]

Zeke and Cooper won’t let that happen 😂

[@yukil.spencer3848]

plant was like that's enough mlm for today i need a mental health break 😂

[@magicbymelanin]

Hi Hannah! I have been binging your videos and I was SO EXCITED that you took a moment to discuss micro aggressions. As a black women with locs I face them daily. Thank you for making your audience aware. If it causes just one or two people to rethink asking me if I wash my hair- its worth it. Thanks again.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

Why would anyone with a brain pick on anyone else's body? It's batshit. Emily Post always said it is bad manners to comment on anyone's appearance, and I stick with that.

[@secondsofglory]

The oleander story chocked me because I heard of a true crime case where a wife tried to poison her husband with oleander. It's easy to assume that anyone that works with formulating cosmetics would know how toxic it is to humans😳😳

[@Acinnn]

my mum had Oleander plant as house plant and always warned us that it's poisonous and she had story about some people who got poisoned when they used the twigs to roast some sausages on a campfire and ate those sausages.

[@beautifulmidnight]

“There’s no baby in her stroller” sounds like a new way to say she’s a little bit off. “Few fries short of a happy meal”, “not all her dogs are barking”, etc. Imagine being the staff member who was selling Princess her admission. “Just you today?” “No, my daughter is here with me.” “….is.. she?”

[@yasminerobinson4220]

As a black woman, I think you did a perfect job explaining what a microaggression is and why that comment was offensive! Thank you for taking the time to address that.

[@cate7540]

I think that it is great that you give shoutouts and provide links to legitimate small businesses by ex mlm people. A lot of mlm boss babes claim that anti mlm content is anti small business but it is not. I seek out legitimate small businesses. I'm happy to support them.

[@jessiedarrelljarbadan7326]

Love your style of addressing all this stuff as usual, however the micro-aggression explanation was exceptionally well done. Thank you once again for being so caring and intentional in the content you’re putting out here! Love your stuff!

[@222daley]

Hi Hannah! I’m a political science major and for my senior project I decided to dive in to the economic side of politics to see why we still have MLMs you were a huge inspiration!

[@rachel3620]

I'd love to learn what you find out when you're done!

[@stephaniejane6168]

What an interesting project!

[@katiescollection6707]

Tea tree oil is antimicrobial, but undiluted it's super strong and can damage skin. It needs to be diluted in a carrier oil like almond or coconut oil for use. I've used it on stubborn pimples, but I would never ever use it on an open wound or blister - pass the Polysporin for that, please.

[@tuschi8039]

True. Some suggest to put it on pimples undiluted....Well i tried (despite knowing better) and looked like a crab afterwards.

[@tarajh]

I'm cringing just thinking about how much tea tree would BURN if put on an open wound.

[@wintermistique3399]

The way you explained micro- aggression.....girl I swear I love you even more. Thank you Hannah!! ❤️

[@katie4929]

Thank you so much for bringing up Microaggressions-I am currently on a DEI committee at work and learned so much about them-everyone needs to know about these slights and put downs, it is SO important! As always, I love your your videos each week and hope you’re feeling well! ❤

[@MiraBoo]

Sometimes the line between a well-intended compliment and a micro-aggression can be very blurry. I have curly hair, and people with straight hair would often say “Oh, if I had your curls, I’d--” and I have to stop them. I thank them for admiring my curls, but natural curls don't behave like fake curls. They’re difficult to style and easily frizz. They look at me confused and I’ll have to explain that it can take anywhere from 15 mins to 2 hours to style/tame natural curls the way they want. They may think they’re giving me a compliment, but what they’re actually saying is “Why don't you style your hair fancy every day?” or “Why aren't you controlling your curls better?” Only once I go into detail about how to get the “simple style” they’d want with my curls do they say “Oh, thank God I don't have curls. That’s way too much work.” I’ll then say, “But I thought you wanted my curls?” They’ll then respond with “I didn’t know how much work they were. I’d rather wear a wig.” I don't usually take offense, but it can be frustrating to constantly be complimented and insulted at the same time. “Your curls are lovely, but-“ is not the compliment many seem to think it is.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

Seriously my landlord who was from Guyana asked me one day "Why are you so white?" Talk about a "microagression" that was a full on MACROaggression.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

@@MiraBoo How is it aggression when someone just doesn't have any idea what it's like to be you because there's no possible way they ever could be you? I know people with curly hair who hate it, but that's what they were born with. Some people with thin hair (my sister) were jealous of my very thick hair, but it was a hassle for me and I could never fit all of it into any hairbands or clips because they'd all break. No one knows what it's like to be you but that doesn't mean they're being aggressive in any way. We are now confusing simple, not malicious ignorance of a thing with something cruel and mean.

[@hellenmuka7207]

​@@user-gd2ys5tu8d you're on everyone's comments talking about microagression....I was sympathetic to your situation....but that's out the window since...just by your tone and aggressive and emotional responses...seems you kinda deserved it... YOU'RE VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH OTHER COMMENTERS...

[@WhatTheFriedRice]

Thank you so much for your explanation of microaggressions. As a POC it is exhausting to try to explain why something seemingly innocuous is hurtful. it’s so much unnecessary mental and emotional labor.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

As a White person who grew up the minority in my area, for years my sister and I were made fun of and attacked for being "pale", told we looked sick or ill, called "white out" , "powder", "light bulb", "casper" and so on. We went to a Christian school, too. So much for Christians, right? They clearly didn't have the love of Jesus in them. Most of my neighborhood was Black and Hispanic. We got called a lot of names in Spanish (that's one way to learn the language), too. I totally know exactly what it's like to know that you're being laughed at, picked on, mocked, and seen as somehow deficient and unacceptable by those around you. Racism is everywhere and anyone can perpetrate it, it has to do with your own thinking and choices, and you choose to be racist or not.

[@tarajh]

​@@user-gd2ys5tu8d you've replied to every single "micro aggression" comment with a long description about your own poor treatment. You obviously have a lot of unresolved trauma & resentment about your childhood and I hope you reach out to a behavioral/ mental health professional for help processing that. But taking a comment about the systemic oppression & hostility faced by an entire race of people for generations and *making it about YOU* is not the way. ☮️ 💜

[@IzzyHasADHD]

Regardless of whether or not tea tree oil is antibacterial (or safe on an open blister), the fact that the "nurse" ignored her patient expressing that they did not want the oil makes it a consent issue.

[@MissMystery1412]

Thank you so much for taking the time to address micro aggressions! You did a fantastic job, you’re so well spoken and intelligent that I’m sure you really opened the eyes of some viewers to such an important topic. Keep up the good work, we all appreciate you ❤

[@reviving_rosie]

A Mary Kay director I know was really pushing Kendra Scott in her posts last week, but she wanted to message you with information instead of just being up front about it. 🚩🚩🚩I wasn't about to ask for information, so thanks for covering that one!

[@amberisrad]

thanks for mentioning Farmacy vs Farmasi - i got confused the other day about this 😆 i feel bad for the legitimate brand having their name confused for that MLM!

[@charminglychelsea5250]

The camp story is WILD. I think the nurse lady is doing that Christian thing where you "speak over your life". And basically try to manifest what you want by pretending it's already real. That explains the empty stroller. She probably doesn't have a baby but is "sowing the words of faith" that God will give her a baby. I'm a Christian (catholic) and religious person so no slight to anyone who believes in God provides because they do. But the prosperity gospel (which is probably what this woman believes) is very culty and MLMs are RAMPANT in them.

[@pippo17173]

In other words, she is flat out crazy.

[@spokenwordpoetries]

Thanks for sharing this. I am Christian, and don't believe in faith as explained above. I think this goes to show the wide range of beliefs and approaches to faith, even within the same one. I absolutely believe in prayer and asking God for things that might seem impossible, but I also believe that both faith and wisdom live in beautiful tension with one another.

[@Amanda-el9sk]

Prosperity gospel is basically new age. It’s definitely not biblical Christianity.

[@milkteamachine]

She might just be mentally ill. Not sure it's even related to the MLM.

[@shannontrent3702]

Thank you, I wasn't sure how to say this exact thing. I am a bible-believing Christian but the nurse seemed to be in a cult. People in cults just seem to regurgitate information they've heard and not really have a relationship with God...interpretation can be so skewed.

[@CarboneCat]

The camp one (story 2) was crazy! Thanks for bringing up micro aggressions as they can occur sneakily in our everyday lives.

[@flowerprincejess]

THANK YOU FOR BREAKING DOWN MICRO AGGRESSIONS!! YOU EXPLAINED IT WELL. ppl really dont understand the damage that causes to minority groups. Black hair is NOT unmanageable. It is uniquely strong and requires special care

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

POC can show microaggressions to everyone else, too. this is not exclusively something White people do to Black people. I've been attacked and mocked by Black and Hispanic people where i grew up where I was the minority (i.e. I could walk around the whole neighborhood and never see another White person). I never picked on anyone's skin or hair, but I sure got attacked for mine.

[@flowerprincejess]

@@user-gd2ys5tu8d Never said it only effected minorities. I simply mentioned how damaging it is to minority groups. Also we can't pretend that poc in the US don't experience the bulk of micro aggressions.

[@NotAllegra]

I will definitely look more into microaggressions. That's horrifying, I never knew those were a thing until I watched this video. I wonder if I've ever unintentionally used one, ugh I hope not. Thank you Hannah, that's very eye opening.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

I don't know about microaggressions because it sounds like sometimes it's just ignorance and ignorance does not necessarily mean there's anything negative intended. We can't bemoan people somehow being aggressive when they are simply not informed at all and have no experience with a person or thing. They're looking at it from a place of ignorance or poor education. Then there are those who are passive aggressive and who MEAN to be hurtful with their little nasty advice, but not everyone.

[@nadinegriffin5252]

My budgies (and me) love your content! They love to chirp and talk to my phone as I listen to you.

[@MommaB74]

I think, not sure, but basically only Canadians say budgies? Usually Americans say parakeet. Is this correct?

[@megan5348]

@@MommaB74 Australians and New Zealanders also say budgie as well ☺️

[@karriqueen]

My cats don't like her videos usually. When her cats meow my cats start searching for the strange cat that don't belong in this house lol. I turn it off then and continue when my cats are outside. No cat noises in this video.

[@chloeinthecities]

My roommate was a kendra scott campus rep (gem), a vs pink rep and a bumble ambassador - they were just collage programs to raise brand awareness and she would do give aways of merch and sponsor parties. She never made a commission on anything but got sent a ton of free stuff. We were both shocked to find out Kendra had an MLM arm.

[@ShotCallerTaylor]

Victoria’s Secret Pink rep? Did I read that right??? What in the heck is that?!?!? 😂 Omg I worked for Victoria’s Secret years ago and thankfully this was not a thing back then (that I know of). It was bad enough trying to get people to sign up for the credit card.

[@chloeinthecities]

@@ShotCallerTaylor It wasn't an MLM, she just applied and got sent free stuff and goodie bags to market on campus, micro influencer style. She did not sell or earn commission on anything. Sorry for the confusion.

[@Saburi0504]

Just in time to watch while I get ready for work! My cat likes watching stuff with me and she ran in when she heard your voice!

[@MiraBoo]

That's so darn precious!

[@juliettehernandez5115]

i loved how you explained the micro aggression

[@karmagal78]

I used to work retail. When I was still at the retail job, the boss’s daughter was in LipSense. She was trying to get us to buy from her. She left the catalogs in the break room for us to check out. I took one look at the prices and went “nope!” Not spending that much on lipstick and something that you would have to remove it with.

[@tracyeric07]

You did a perfect job explaining micro aggression.

[@RouxHarbour]

My mom was always into MLM and "alternative" stuff. We went to so many fairs and parties where people were saying they had the cure for everything. When I started taking my prescribed anti-anxiety medication, my mom was afraid it would hurt me. Because these types of people had filled her head with "medication bad! use oil/crystals instead!" It's not her fault. She grew up in a time where medications were largely unreliable, full of bad side effects, and largely unregulated, and it made her very afraid of even taking over-the-counter paracetamols. Which these MLM type people jumped on and preyed on to the max ofc!

[@Dom.Johnson]

Thanks for pointing out and explaining microagressions!

[@madelynmoore957]

Kendra Scott’s mom, Jan, is a retired pink Cadillac director with Mary Kay. She’s very familiar with how to be successful in MLMs and they both speak at Mary Kay events together. Kendra Scott products are very popular in MLMs, specifically Mary Kay. I was a rep for a few years and still have many of the top directors and reps on social media

[@candacehoban4945]

My husband worked in a call center for Tahitian Noni. He worked in the middle of the night and took calls from Germany and the UK. The longer he worked there, the more they pushed up-selling to the customers, especially talking them into auto-shipments. He ended up losing that job because when they downsized the team, he didn't have the same sales numbers as others. He said the job was listed as a customer service job, and selling to people who needed help felt icky to him. They would give him "bonuses" in the form of free Tahitian Noni products. Looking back, that is really weird.

[@jessicawaldeback]

Did you know that we have Young Living in Sweden? I was somewhat aware of what mlm entails, but when my former classmate from university started posting things about this business opportunity she had come across that I first heard of Young Living. My friend has this public instagram account where she posts everything YL related. I tend to sneak onto her account when my curiosity peaks. I noticed that she had posted this zoom call she had with another YL rep. Oh the horror! I’ve never heard so many red flags in one conversation before. I honestly screamed “NO!” when I heard what these two said. I really have to transcribe the conversation and translate it sometime. They talked about my friend using essential oils on her newborn. How the other rep had to struggle to conceive, and finally got successful with IVF, and how wonderful it would be to plug YL products to people in a similar situation. And how this other rep has used YL oils for their healing properties and due to the positive affects they claim that the oils have on people’s health. And how this rep’s own kids now chooses to use essential oils instead of medicine. It sounded like this was fairly young kids, but I can’t remember an actual age being mentioned. Does this sound like a horror story in the making perhaps?! 😅

[@tuschi8039]

Let wobbly plant wobble 🥺 it dances to praise your effort

[@moldyvoldy1231]

It looks like Kendra Scott is moving into mlm territory with this program. Edit: the fact that the woman I'm the second story used the terms third eye and Jesus in the same sentence is red flag enough for me 😂

[@seameology]

Right? Who does that?

[@alexandrawilson-hodge2974]

Oh heck yeah, Hannah video!! 😎 good to see your nursery set up by the way, congrats! It looks so beautiful so far. I think we’d all love a nursery tour when you’re finished, if you feel comfortable! ❤

[@JJayTheGoat]

Honestly I think you should do a deep dive video on Plexus. A family friend of mine was selling it so I did research on it. My favorite find (of MANY) was that they were sued in 2016 for putting LEAD in their products. The lawsuit is public information and is like the first thing that pops up when googling “Plexus Lead Lawsuit”.

[@HannahAlonzo]

I have one already! It’s called “Plexus Deep Dive” - on my deep dives playlist

[@JJayTheGoat]

@@HannahAlonzo Oh I haven’t seen it! I’ll totally check it out. That family friend sold it to us saying it would cure my moms Crohn’s and my anxiety. It did neither and caused excruciating pain for my mom. I was FURIOUS when I saw that lawsuit haha.

[@elizabethmccready]

@@JJayTheGoat I've been told by several Plexus reps that it would cure my anxiety, and it makes me very angry.

[@kadeelacayo4806]

It’s actually concerning that the woman brought a stroller into several locations without a child in the stroller or seen . That sounds like a major mental health issue and i hope she got that looked into

[@lilessab85]

This story was beyond creepy!

[@journeywithrosie]

Thank you for speaking on microaggressions 💗 I think your explanation was well said and informative.

[@AsterInDis]

My road to getting on the right med for my depression was a rocky one, but I eventually found one that worked for me. That plus therapy was incredibly good for me in HS; in college getting away from my mom was even better for my mental health.

[@kybifox13]

Even if tea tree oil has real benefits, the fact that "Princess" wouldn't respect people who just wanted to be treated with the right medication that they are comfortable with is frustrating and WRONG especially in that work position

[@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac]

That camp nurse needs to be reported… and I AM a nurse - I don’t take that lightly

[@AllOutBible]

"sniff an oil" now I'm imagining someone doing a line of peppermint or tea tree.

[@gentle_words]

Thank you for talking about micro aggressions ❤

[@Guilty_Feet]

Thank you so much for talking about microaggressions.

[@juliasmith960]

I really, really want to read a Stephen King novel about Princess and her empty baby stroller!

[@pixiegirl131415]

Ok, I work in a burn specialty unit. Do not put ANY unapproved products on your burns. They can make it soooo much worse. Even with the products available to us and all our knowledge, we have to be careful of which topicals we choose for various patients and types of burns. If you are burned, get the burn under cool (not cold) water within 2 minutes, then keep it clean. If it’s small, some neosporin and bandaids will be fine, but if it’s a large burn, or on face, hands, etc., go in and be seen by a medical professional.

[@msmagsmn]

Yaaaaaay new Hannah for my Monday! Ooooooo Princess and I would have had some problems. Just insult after insult after insult...it would have been hard not to have a few words not appropriate for the ears of children. Thank you for that succinct and informative summation of microaggressions, by the way. Very good explanation, and I'm sure those sorts of comments get tossed off in MLM spheres all the time. Edit: I'm a nursery manager (plants, not tiny humans), and when i heard the 'magic ingredient' was oleander, I shrieked. That is indeed a major skin irritant! In its raw form, that plant is hugely poisonous and can absolutely kill people and animals, though it's very beautiful, hardy, and its flowers smell like marshmallows. :-) Plant it, enjoy it, and DON'T use it for anything on or in your body - this means you, MLMs!

[@maryeckel9682]

And don't burn it! Fumes are toxic

[@Stephsteph8]

Thanks for pointing out and educating your audience on micro aggressions!

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

The only thing lacking is that POC can exhibit microaggressions as well towards people of other races and colors. I have been a victim of some POC who were obviously racist and ignorant, not loving people or accepting. There's always room for any human to do better.

[@absynthefaerie]

The two essential oils multiple doctors have recommended to me are Tea Tree and Peppermint. I have scalp psoriasis and tea tree helps with that, and peppermint was recommended on top of the medications I had for Hyperemisis during my pregnancy 10 years ago. The peppermint was to be sniffed.

[@pugsondrugs5480]

I’ve heard they use peppermint scented things in hospitals. Specifically inside doctor’s masks to protect from horrifying stenches.

[@Keshlynne]

That camp nurse should have been fired. I worked at a camp (20 years ago, now), where we had a nurse and two first-aid providers. If our nurse or either of us first-aid providers had refused a child medication, or tried something other than what was proven and necessary, we would have been let go. It's literally a liability issue, which the camp may have figured out with 'Princess.' Also, my daughter has beautiful, super curly, hair (3C according to the stylist). It's not "problematic" in any way, it has to be taken care of, like everyone has to do no matter what kind of hair they have. Sorry, the hair thing is super offensive to me and I would have been beyond livid at that woman.

[@kateemma22]

The part where the MLM rep just stood outside the camp building like the serial killer in a horror movie... there's no amount of tea tree oil that can ease the pain in my stomach after laughing so hard at that.

[@Mt4evr]

Lol yes, I was just thinking someone could use this story as a base for a horror movie. That story was creepy. She had to have had a mental illness. That's odd behavior, even for a hun

[@Tiffbishop2]

I once was interested in signing up for Monet, and the person who would be my up line told me to send her the personal information on 15 people that I think would be interested in being apart of the company. I told her I didn’t think I knew that many people who would be interested since the products are on the pricey side. She said “start messaging people you’re friends with on social media even if you haven’t talked to them in years”. I told her I didn’t feel right about that. Messaging someone you haven’t spoken to in years and asking them how they are doing makes them feel really special, and like someone has been thinking about them, and then when they found out the only reason you messaged them was to sell something can be a serious let down, and it actually hurts people feelings, Ive been there before, and I said I can’t do that to someone else, and her only response to me was “this business isn’t for you then”

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

Yeah you've got too much empathy, morals and an ACTUAL SOUL inside you. You can't make her any sweet sweet Mammon.

[@murisah]

my husband is always telling me about mlm’s or scams he comes across because he’s always in the room when im playing you and cc!! 😂😂😂he’s a freaking pro at figuring them out now!

[@nerdoftheatre]

24:44 "That would be the perfect place to share the bounty of Christ." Didn't Jesus braid and whip and drive people out of his father's house because they had turned it into a marketplace? A lot of religious MLMs seem to forget that.

[@user-gd2ys5tu8d]

I am always thinking about how these people worship Mammon and how God says that a man cannot serve two masters. He must choose between God and mammon. They've made their choice and it's interesting how none of them seem to have any conviction or guilt about how they have turned their backs on God. God said He would provide, and not to worry or "spin". Yet these people not only spin, they try to maliciously destroy other people and their greed is limitless. It's pretty much satanic in how selfish it is. Satan preaches selfishness and disregarding others. Jesus teaches loving others, sharing what you have and being trusting in God as your provider.

[@nadinegriffin5252]

The fact that Princess is still trying to recruit the same person multiple times over 5 years proves her business isn't doing well. The few people I know who have done well in an MLM (yes, there is actual people in the 1%) never ever speak to the same people repeatedly.

[@araneljones]

The only useful thing I ever received from a Young Living seller was about lavender, but not the way you might think. We had gotten bedbugs after buying a storage unit and sorting through some of the boxes in our house. Nightmare. Never, ever bring items from a storage unit into your house unless you thoroughly clean and inspect every nook and cranny. It took us 4 years and finally 2 $1000 heat treatments to get rid of them. I honestly have PTSD from it now. Anyway, my niece's mother sold YL and she had their book on her cabinet. I flipped through the index for anything about bug repellent. At this point, that had become habit as we had tried everything. They actually had a mention of bedbugs, suggesting lavender. I picked up some essential oil from Walmart and mixed up a standard spray with maybe 1.5 cups of water and about 30 drops of oil. Then I attacked the bugs. The solution literally made the bugs explode. Nothing else I tried did that, from chemicals marketed for bedbugs to diatomaceous earth, or even other essential oils. Only lavender. We went through so many bottles before we were able to find a reputable exterminator who offered limited guarantees. No idea what in the lavender did it, but it worked. I loathe the smell, unfortunately, and now the association with that scent is even worse, but maybe that tip will work for someone else. Think about it, though. If it will cause a bug to explode, what does this do to people who take it internally? O_o

[@atypicalgeek88]

Branding something "Dr. C. Tuna" is such a wild move!

[@MrsMuffin11]

the lady buying tickets to the zoo she doesn't approve of reminds me of the customers that come out on holidays to shop or eat out and then tell the staff how sad it is that they have to work on a holiday...like...I work here because people like you come here and support it lmao if no one went shopping or out to eat, ya, none of us would have to work on a holiday 🤣

[@Mt4evr]

This reminds me of a story I heard once. This woman was a waitress in the Bible Belt and would often work Sundays. Good old Baptists would come in for lunch after church and scold her for working on "the Lord's day".

[@lillyvaughn5398]

You are the nicest loveliest person on this platform

[@justrachel4496]

It's important to note that even when an essential oil does have scientific backing, you have to use it properly and at the correct concentration as they can cause chemical burns. I personally believe in many natural remedies, but I would NEVER apply essential oils to an open wound unless I had thoroughly researched it beforehand and lacked other alternatives.

[@emmacastro1]

I used to work in the back office for Neora when it was Nerium and they only had one product. The product stunk SO BAD they would give us employees bottles every month during our meetings and I never used it. We always told the Huns not to make crazy claims like that but of course, they wouldn't listen. Edited to add: the CEO of the company is a man name Jeff Olsen, so the lady in the last letter must have been referring to his daughter who's the CMO of the company. Fun fact, they don't allow employees to have any downlines but they can( Jeff, his daughter and ex wife Renee) .

[@jenniferdevinney541]

I love hearing you talk about mental health! I'm a counselor and I often listen to your videos in between sessions!

[@deehillard]

Subscribing after that microaggression description. Thank you for using your platform to educate others.

[@ariadneschulz8822]

Being in an MLM is like having a sociopath for a friend. You're probably being victimized, but at some point you're going to have to make a choice to give into the manipulation and behave in a predatory manner yourself or be discarded.

[@InevitableSecrets]

I am NOT EVER rubbing something that has Tuna in the name all over my face.

[@SpirituallyInspired]

WOAH memory unlocked! When I was a dancer growing up we had the three different lipstick things too, and they burned!! Never realized it was an MLM product until now. Kinra scary how they can infiltrate every area of life

[@1alayzzia]

I've had several friends with red curly hair and they get the same treatment. Is people are constantly trying to "fix" their hair. The other added bonus is that some religious crazy people will say that they are born of the devil.

[@peridot_craponite_earrings]

Sororities, man.... Easiest demographic to recruit for MLMs I swear. Also that part of the camp story when Princess randomly showed up by the cabin - I totally heard the violin screech sound effect in my head. Shouldn't have been listening to stories about strange encounters in the woods just before this lol.

[@BistrosHouse]

Tea tree, while it does has anti inflammatory and antibiotic properties, it is a known skin irritant. You should never apply it (or other essential oils) to broken or injured skin!

[@akaneakane1969]

I still remember when you first mentioned that Kendra Scott was maybe becoming an mlm & you feeling so conflicted that you'd loved their jewelry & had worn it in several videos. Hopefully they were just using sketchy language by accident / with the best intentions, and they don't jump off that cliff edge they've inched sooooooo close to.

[@newyearnewmae]

I hope you feeling well! Thanks for taking care of us with another video!

[@malindayoung2914]

19:09 🙌 Bravo!! You explained that beautifully, Hannah. 😊 thank you ❤

[@Erlrantandrage]

Omg what an amazing teacher you are! The section on micro-agressions made me feel like I was in one of my Wednesdays PDs. Not new info to me but so well taught! If you ever get bored with you tube become an instructional coach you'd kill it!

[@BistrosHouse]

I almost got got by Farmacy vs Farmasi too! Glad I’m not alone haha. Almost sent a strongly worded email to FabFitFun when I got a Farmacy moisturizer (side note: it was a lovely moisturizer!)

[@Akiku2]

I have to wonder what they would do if they met me. I have no pain points or real insecurities for them to prey on. Not because I’m perfect (I’m definitely not) but because I love my imperfections.

[@Pippa87]

Yay a new video! We just broke up for Christmas last week and I spent all day yesterday and Saturday in my onesie with your mlm fails and mlm zoom calls on in the background.

[@raychul33]

Very valid points about the corporate side of mlms losing their jobs. Not really considered it before

[@MelissaModsMetal]

Ok ok ok I have debated long enough! I'm writing in my story like today and I truly hope you use it because it's a topic that needs awareness big time.

[@emilyfullington9299]

Yay another Husky! I had my suspicions from the Optavia vid, but now they’re confirmed and I’m stoked!

[@dorotak2075]

Thank you for uploading a video! That’s exactly what I needed ❤️ horror stories are my favourite

[@ShesNervous]

(Please excuse the wobbly plant) 😂😂 Let that plant wobble! 🪴 she’s serving

[@kayem5812]

Oh I’m so happy this video just came out I was literally looking for something to watch while I eat breakfast! Just what I needed 🙌🏽

[@lisab3256]

Hi Hannah, I love your videos and because of all your information I am now researching more companies before I buy a product right away and no longer will buy from MLMs,( and there seem to be a million distributors in our small town.) That being said, I agree whole heartedly, that oils should not be used instead of medicine. I feel like they can be a good addition, for example some have a very nice and relaxing effect, such as lavender. I personally use Peppermint oil to aid in digestion, sore tummy, helps with heartburn and migraines. But I also will take medication if needed. I always try the Peppermint first, but I also take perscriptions and would not stop those without my MD saying so. There are companies that sell high grade oils that are not MLMS. I have read articles that Egyptions as well as many other cultures did use oils in the past because those were all they had, (I believe young living took that point over the top to try to get the religious sect to buy) then, so I believe oils can help, but would never depend on them solely. Also I wanted to point out that people on disability are very vulnerable to getting involved in these companies, ( because many don't feel good often) and the people recruiting have no idea that by joining a MLM , you can jeopardize losing your benefits. Most, if not all people trying to recruit have no idea about this or they point blank lie. I actually knew enough to ask questions, but it was in fact, young living that my friend tried to get me to sell. I joined because I wanted the oils as a discount. Someone ended up turning me in and thank goodness I could prove that I was the only one who bought and it was a small amount. Anyway sorry this was so long. Thanks for listening. I should have submitted a letter, but the truth is I thought you might read this sooner. Thanks for all you do. Tell the kitties Meow and congrats on your pregnancy.

[@TheWicked_Wench]

So that's what happened to Charlie the Tuna after StarKist got a new ad company!!?!

[@carinelsonfreeland]

This is just me, being extremely shallow, but I could not bring myself to use a product called “Dr. C. Tuna”. How did this make it through R&D?!