MLM Top Leader Does A Bad Training

[@Santiago-in1xf]

"We could only take one family vacation a year." That's hella privileged compared to most people.

[@heartsandpulseras]

My thought exactly! And $60/week eating out!

[@LisaHarvey16]

They love to flaunt their privilege but often it backfires.

[@emmatfink]

Okay so it wasn’t just me who physically cringed at that 😅

[@BaublesOfDelight]

😂 I thought the same thing. Like.... I want my Starbucks 365 days a year. Instead of 355 days of the year 😭

[@krissyehenderson8041]

Same lol what is vacation

[@jaga392]

Aw they could only do one activity at a time and one vacation a year?!? 😢 my heart bleeds for them

[@eloisepharmacist]

They got a vacation and activity!

[@LisaHarvey16]

Mine too.

[@catz7679]

Smallest violin 🎻

[@maryeckel9682]

Poor, poor, pitiful them

[@jannettb7930]

Don't forget, they could only spend $60 every single freaking week on eating out. Not on groceries, just on restaurants.

[@lane6216]

“Make a list of who your dream team is.” Girl, please. Someone who is drawing breath is their dream team, and you know it. They cannot be picky eat down there at the bottom.

[@aliaelle322]

Why is she recording in a cave?

[@LisaHarvey16]

Love this comment.

[@Jasperollie84]

😂

[@megsuttoncreates]

Exactly what I came here to ask. The bar for production value is on the floooorrr

[@ReturnToSenderz]

Yeah, it looks like she’s making Zoom calls while being held hostage in a basement. Ma’am, blink three times if you need help. 😱

[@nafeesahtynetta]

I need answers! 😂

[@hawaiianshirts4715]

People actually PAID to listen to this? I would have been furious if THIS "training" was what my money bought! She's just talking, maybe with an outline. Put up some lists or charts or something! And her use of the Shatner Comma (especially around the 29:00 mark), while she pauses to think of the next thing to say, isn't making her any easier to listen to.

[@yvonned627]

I hate when they talk about “pain points”. To me, that feels so predatory and manipulative! My “pain points” are no one’s business except for people I’m closest to and know that it will stay confidential. Maybe that’s just me…

[@WTangoFoxtrot]

Volunteering for a great organization is a better way to positively impact people while making no money.

[@caffeinatedbroccoli]

For real... It's so easy to volunteer places and it's fun. Best part of my life for the most part is getting to help people at a food bank every week. And when I volunteer there I know for a fact we're helping the local community. I see where every resource we get , goes. And I get to see that it's fair and done properly.

[@JackieUnfilteredASMR]

PS. “Retired” means I NO Longer Am Employed 🎉I’m retired, I’m a Canadian Army Veteran, I just enjoy my time retired doing things I enjoy ❤

[@crystalstuart3781]

Thanks for your service! Retired US Air Force here. It’s glorious!!

[@JackieUnfilteredASMR]

❤❤🎉😊thank you!

[@juliejo]

Thanks for your service 🫶

[@juliejo]

@@crystalstuart3781 thank you for your service ❤️

[@bridesbard]

"poke poke punch" sounds like what happens in the backseat between my kids on long drives, not a business strategy

[@LisaHarvey16]

Same for my Grandchildren.

[@juliemorrison3450]

Hi Julie Jo, I just want to tell you that I have had a very difficult summer with some heavy mental health challenges (anxiety and depression) and your channel is one of the things that has helped me get through some rough days. You are so calm, kind and a force for good. Thank you for being there. You'll never know how many dark days you helped me get through.

[@LisaHarvey16]

I hope you feel better soon.

[@juliejo]

Wow. Thank you so much 🥹❤️ I hope things start to ease up soon. I understand how difficult mental health challenges can be and I hope I can continue to help out!

[@christinasisneros3549]

It's so sad that they see an actually small business woman and that's their "dream team". I fell for the "well you're already in sales, so you might as well join." Once I did my taxes I left.

[@LisaHarvey16]

So happy you got out.

[@juliejo]

Taxes got me so bad. I’m glad you got out!

[@Beehappy76637]

1) What I want to know is what is their NET bring home After all expenses?? Each month ?? 2) If the 60,000 is pre tax what amount of taxes are being taken out annually ?? Any bonuses, car allowance etc is also considered income. 3) How much do these ladies spend per year on products? Are those tax deductible? Probably not because they are supposed to be for personal use correct ? 4) How much in fees do they spend per year? 5) How much do they spend per year meeting people for “ coffee” ? Drinks? Dinner? 6) How much money do they have to put with the car bonus to actually make the payment? I doubt very seriously if the bonus covers the entire payment. 7) What is the yearly insurance cost on a luxury vehicle ? The bonus paid to them is considered income so they would have to pay taxes on that amount. Which increases their out of pocket expenses toward the payment. 8) How many conferences do they attend per year? How much are they spending on each trip? Tickets, airfare, food, lodging and expenses for their spouses. Even if they earned free tickets they still have a big out of pocket per trip. 9) How much of those conferences, fees, product purchases, can you actually claim as tax deducted business expenses?? If I’m guessing after taxes and all expenses they are probably a little above minimum wage. Has any creator ever broke down the costs by just picking a yearly salary amount these ladies claim to earn?? After taxes, fees, product purchase ( minimum requirement) car payment difference, conferences, air fare, food, entertainment and any other cost. I just wonder if these ladies have actually ever saw the break down on paper. Overall I think these ladies love the feeling of being popular and somewhat famous and well known within the team.

[@LisaHarvey16]

They are definitely not keeping all of the 60K

[@juliejo]

THANK YOU! This is excellent for people to think through!

[@lisahance]

Target audience for recruitment: anyone with a pulse and a credit card.

[@lucilesautot7740]

I think the pulse is recommended but optional. I mean, when your autoshipment is setted, who cares if you're alive ?

[@k_leeanne]

So stressful! That she has to always be thinking “if I’m not working, I might miss that one person who’d join me”. Ugh I’m exhausted!

[@michellemurray1784]

"What's your dream team?" Anything with a pulse and even that is negotiable.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Exactly

[@PurpleMonkey123]

Only one family vacation a year... the horror!

[@haruuuuu1115]

maybe i missed it or didn’t understand the title but i thought it was going to be an actual down line demanding refunds 😂

[@Starry_Skye22]

Haha me too!

[@provoked3342]

You didn't retire! Retired means no longer working! Or is this a Freudian slip that she actually does no work and just collects checks off her downline's efforts?

[@LisaHarvey16]

100% she collects the checks.

[@lindsaykatz874]

Ha its the absolute dumbest thing when they say that. Makes 0 sense😮

[@ReturnToSenderz]

There are some (very few) jobs that you can retire from and still be in the workforce. You can put in your 20 years in the military and collect a retirement check when you leave even if you pick up a new career afterward. That’s not “being retired”; it’s being “retired from” a specific job that continues to pay you. Collecting residual income from your downline is not that, just like collecting winnings from a casino isn’t “being retired”.

[@mitzie393]

What am I missing? I thought I was gonna watch literal down lines asking for refunds. Lol

[@DezHickson]

17:19 I was working quietly and ho humming until she said “you are paid what you are worth in this industry” 😮

[@LisaHarvey16]

That's why most people earn zero. In the huns opinion.

[@Arting_Through_Life]

That lady was the opposite of motivation. OMG. She was putting me to sleep.

[@AllthingsCrafty]

This is absolutely hilarious. They're all talking about KZbin now because of me. When I started I was the only one with a KZbin following. Now they're all hell bent about KZbin after they kicked me out because I didn't want to do it anymore and started Affiliate marketing something my upline knew I've done for 4 years on KZbin🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a bunch of losers

[@blazedgoddess710]

That's gotta feel good in a twisty way 😂

[@rebelbelle1388]

If this woman put all this energy and all this time into an ACTUAL job, she'd be making BANK. Most time and money put into an MLM is wasted.

[@JRand5501]

44:35 got it. So always work on vacation so people don’t think you are gone.

[@Humblebee413]

Thank you JJ. These reps and their recruitment strategies are so unbelievably predatory. It’s not about selling amazing products to the public and it’s certainly not about serving others - it’s purely about selling a false reality at the expense of innocent people and setting them up for failure. The layers of manipulation run so deep and I often question how many of these reps are actually victims of manipulation and genuinely believe what they are saying vs. how many of them are very much aware.

[@fabg6451]

I always wonder that too!

[@Bee-ol1xr]

Every. Single. Time. I hear "it was on my heart" I hear Mack Attack laughing. That is such a culty thing to say! "Send a voice message so they can hear your heart " hmm no thank you! Also if anyone could hear their heart would it be you, JJ, as a US technician? It's sad how much they worship this cult leader (imo)

[@phnxrmx]

omg yessssss. the faces he makes too😂

[@Maguire708Julie]

On my heart, in the season, pain point… automatic hang up cues!

[@beckiehubley5798]

Fake friendships are the worst. The fake friendships I've been in maje it hard for me to trust people to this day. They mostly happened in my teens and early 20's and I'm pushing 50. It was mostly people who meant well, but it still caused me to have a hard tine trusting that anyone actually likes me.

[@ReturnToSenderz]

I feel like I just witnessed a sermon from the Church of Jesse Lee Ward. I can’t believe people paid extra to hear somebody wax poetic about JLW under the guise of “business training” when we can just watch any rando in her downline do that for free every business day and twice daily on the weekends.

[@leiseagee]

Helping others as a means to help yourself and your own business is not the selfless altruism they think it is. How many people in mlms honestly think they’re helping people, but they’re just being manipulated into manipulating their friends and family (probably a lot). So gross to frame recruiting as some sort of charitable act. There’s only on reason to recruit-building a team and making $.

[@lilurri]

When she mentioned the vehicle, I wasn't sure if she meant "vehicle" like they use it, or an actual vehicle. LOL

[@JackieUnfilteredASMR]

I’d say no once they contact after that I’d block but definitely say first “what part of no, do you not understand” ugh 😑

[@DG_212]

Except … Mini-Lee, when you have start-up costs for a real business, you OWN whatever those start-up costs. You receive EQUITY. That’s the difference: MLMs you pay but get NO OWNERSHIP in return. You get powder. Rock on. I’ll take the first option, thanks. Also, I think I said this in a comment on one of Erin’s videos that had a rep talking about how you need to decide who you want on your team. It’s HILARIOUS. As if we don’t all know that you’ll take anyone with a pulse. As if you’d ever tell someone “no, I want an all-female team, my guy, look elsewhere.” Absurd. 🤣

[@maryeckel9682]

I think even "women only" Angela would figure out a way to recruit a guy.

[@bethanycostello2231]

Jamie Lynn is really out here looking like tomato in a dark void lol

[@katicorn411]

I like how she said "write down what you want your team to look like" and then said "dont judge your team by how they look." Im confused...

[@theeclecticmemah]

Time Freedom! BUT you HAVE to post NO matter what you are doing or going through!

[@ramenaddict1000]

I am not sure how relatable she is making herself saying her “before” is one vacation a year, one activity per kid AT A TIME (so presumably they could do one per season if they didn’t overlap), and $60 a week on eating out. Kid activities are usually pretty expensive. Even if the actual lesson/activity fees are not that much, you usually have to buy stuff like uniforms, equipment, etc. That can really add up, not to mention all the gas money you spend taking your kid to and fro.

[@Danib81000]

I thought she said she was able to retire herself!!! Then why is she working on vacation 😂😂

[@kookootrix1978]

I bought some Liquid IV, I did a pre-order for the sugar free peach, cuz it's out of stock right now, guess it's a popular flavor! Looking forward to trying it, Thanks, JJ!

[@catz7679]

Oh no, you could only take one family vacation a year.🙄

[@AussieFiggy]

When she was talking about platforms, and started to say “only fa-“ I thought they were tapping into an entirely different market these days for half a second!

[@randilee2662]

She’s so robotic and it makes me think that she doesn’t really have the depth of knowledge to talk about what she’s sharing- really feels regurgitated.

[@jules8273]

"they need to know you're not going anywhere" okay but if they know that, they should and probably will block you because no one finds it encouraging to be repeatedly "poked and punched"

[@jaymel4691]

Anyone who pokes or punches me is getting the same back, lol!

[@jocelynvienneau9117]

People paid for THIS? Am I suppose to be getting something from her? Is the suppose to be value in what she’s saying?

[@Alisha_79]

If I see someone working while on vacation, I definitely wouldn't want to do what they do! No thanks! Now if it's a work trip that you're adding on to for a bit of vacation that's different. Be honest about what it is though.

[@betsyblackbird8098]

Hey, Julie Jo! I’ve been bingeing a lot of your content lately, and I just learned that you are in Austin! I live in Elgin now, but I was born in Austin and lived there for 30 years. I just thought that was neat, nothing else to say, just stay cool out there! 😊

[@janewaysmom]

18:46 somehow, I feel like if she asked me this, and I said "Come to my house and do the dishes and grind the dog's nails so I can send out more messages" ... she wouldn't come. I just doubt she'd actually help if you were honest like that.

[@laurence.d.a]

Wait - how many family vacations are you supposed to have per year?! Like... is one really not enough?

[@thomasvaldez8566]

What she can do for them? How about paying a ffair wage for the hours they work?

[@klynne8410]

Omg when she said "I want to recruit ALL the humans, I wanna recruit the unicorns" I almost lost it! What in the pyramid scheme?? 😂

[@erinfindsen4953]

7:26 I hate it when they say “no cap on your income” without saying there’s also no floor.

[@YourFavoriteSociopath]

what is it with huns and free trips? I like my house! THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT IT! I'm getting my mortgage's worth out of my house dang it!

[@charliehobo7007]

Totally agree. When I close my front door, I am on vacation.

[@WTangoFoxtrot]

@Julie Jo-your videos just get better and better! I hope the people she is targeting realize they will make the money they need with less time commitment and stress if they get a normal job. Or better yet, realize they can take out federal low interest education loans and get a degree that will in time provide them much greater earning power than they could realistically make in any mlm.

[@veronica58]

It's all just world salad. "They can hear your heart." Huh? Just garbage.

[@Kalikinsribbit]

"you took yourself out of it" me - 👀 , Julie Jo "HUH?!?". My thoughts exactly xD

[@AngelaHesterBooks]

1. It's telling how she wants you to be a multi-millionaire like JLW, but not herself - because she's not a millionaire. 2. How many people take more than one vacation a year? Only rich people. 2. You are paid what you're worth in MLM? Oh honey, no. That's a gross and false statement. 3. I don't know how downlines can watch videos like hers and not see that they were pulled in and manipulated by the same tactics. 4. "You can change everything for them, while they are ACTUALLY helping you change everything for yourself" - this is so gross. 5. ONLY $60 a week for eating out? There's a lot of people out there who can't budget $60 for the whole month? Yikes, girl. 6. "poke. poke. punch" - why are we pretending to assault people in any capacity to make a buck? 7. First she said "People know what you do for a living" and then she said "don't assume people know what you do." 8. "It's okay to outgrow people" - what a way to try to convince people the MLM is better than their friendships. Yikes. 9. "She believed in us" - Orrrrrr, she saw dollars signs. 10. "What you track, grows." Say what now? That's not even true. 11. Thanks for sharing, JJ.

[@purple_kathryn]

A "dream team" is at very most a soccer team. To make multi millions you'll need hundreds of people (maybe thousands). How can you ever be only recruiting 1 type of person to get that?

[@StKildaBlvd]

It's the exact same shtick. Meaningless statements that have been made for a decade. And then the pause between those statements. Like it was something profound. She doesn't care about Mums/Moms, she doesn't care about family, community, or financial independence. Her goal is to build a downline so her stressful life every day ends each week (if it's each week) when she sees her cheque.

[@glendastansbury5702]

I have a question. I used your affiliate link for liquid IV today and read the ingredients. It says it contains a “proprietary blend”. So you and Erin always warn about that terminology. Why is it different for you with liquid IV? I’m going to try it but found that interesting.

[@Jmg5594]

Good question @julie jo

[@TherealIndie0625]

👀

[@haleyflores13]

oo that’s interesting. Where did you find that at??

[@erika2m16]

You should always be wary of MLM products- because of the business structure, the price point is higher, and they try to cut costs by only putting the smallest amount of the active ingredient they can get away with. Liquid IV is an electrolyte mix, so I don't think there's anything sketchy going on there. It's essentially the same thing as Gatorade Zero, if you want a cheaper option. But I love it. Not all proprietary blends are bad, but certain companies use it as a method to hide something

[@glendastansbury5702]

@@erika2m16 that’s helpful. I’m going to try it but the words certainly jumped out at me because it has been emphasized so often as MLM’s hiding their ingredients and getting by without testing or oversight. So it’s just an unfortunate term IMO.

[@JRand5501]

41:21 stop it with the business. You are a contracted employee that recruits to make money. Period.

[@LisaHarvey16]

100%

[@NotThatKate]

This sounds like she used JLW’s Jasper GPT code

[@Carol_Pearson]

As someone who has trained in a mix of martial arts and does not like being touched, if you "poke, poke, punch" me, you will probably not like how that experience ends for you.

[@yvonned627]

Poke, poke, punch? My response would be ignore, ignore, block!

[@jadedbelle4788]

I have heard the exact same things in so many posted zoom calls and 'training sessions'

[@MommaB74]

She. Is. The. Speaking. Version. Of. This.

[@summerdowlig]

I mean you could also get a part-time job and make the same amount of money or more. Don't have to pay your job a fee to work for them. They won't poke you.

[@erika2m16]

"Pouring into" is bad enough. Now they're trying poke and punch us 😭

[@brightballoon]

I've never been in an MLM, so it's a little more confusing to me, but, you recruit people to recruit people who will recruit people. Is that about right?

[@Astrocam88]

These people paid thousands of dollars to be fed info that we've all heard before for free? Wow. I could have recited that from memory and I've never been a part of an MLM lol.

[@JRand5501]

40:13 you’re not retired lady.

[@StillBloom]

Oh boy. This was tedious. How does she expect to make any sweet hun money with a personality so devoid of charisma. Actually, I guess that is a good thing...

[@shadowofthemoon3104]

Its so eerie to watch this back after Jessie Lee Ward died. Like i almost couldnt tell this was from before because it feels like shes deifying this woman.

[@purplhaze5464]

Omg, she had to SAVE for a family vacation. Boo hoo

[@blazedgoddess710]

I love the cow/lips mug behind you.. ahhh and the pink cup!!

[@echoecho4590]

Even though I've seen that before, I feel like I lost brain cells like I sustained a concussion... I'll be staying up monitoring that for a few hours... Gosh Jami-lyn - hyperbole much!

[@valerienelson3296]

That's about 50 to 75 a week, since I am paying the taxes that shouldn't be anymore of 2 hours of my time.

[@AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1]

She sure loves JLW, the coulty way.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Totally right

[@purplhaze5464]

Take a shot every time she says “paycheck to before paycheck.” Oh wait, don’t.

[@StKildaBlvd]

And even the way she says they have $60 bucks a week for eating out. Ummmm,.... people need over $60 bucks a week to pay a bill these days. Eating out is not an option. That's not the flex she thought it was. Woe is her.

[@samanthakavanagh7034]

I can't believe this girl seriously just said "think of some pain points.... use those!"

[@Gracewodag]

It’s taken me 4 times to realize she was saying “spammy” not “scammy” 👀

[@Spicypoptart1]

It might be helpful when you go thru income disclosures and their average yearly income that you also tell us the minimum spend they need to qualify for commission. Eg ”average yearly income for rank 1 10.62$. Minimum spend; cheapest starter pack 100$, one time back office fee 50$, monthly 30$ PV x 12 = 490$ expenditure vs 10.62$ income.”

[@tieerraanicolee]

I make good money and I STILL take money into the gas station and the pump clicks when it reaches the limit 😂

[@parkerjon29]

It's haunting to watch her cancer update from 11 days ago essentially taking a victory lap and then finding out she passed. Such a tragic outcome.

[@BeverlyJohnson1]

Girl… blink twice if you’re in danger 😂😂

[@earthvibestarot]

Girl I thought you was about to show Jamie Lynn spears 😂😂😭😭😭

[@mindysouleotis7475]

So when did anyone say they wanted a refund?

[@mynzora]

Woah you mentioned Britt… ohhh I know her… real well.. I was one of themmmmmmmmm 😮

[@neverneverland5836]

I'm sorry but the way this woman is trying to convince us she was poor before... I get that there are levels of money problems, I really do, but she keeps saying she "only" had this or "only" had that. No, you had a family holiday each year. Your kids were doing one paid activity each. You had 60 dollars a week for eating out. She's trying to connect with the desperate, but doesn't know what that truly feels like.

[@SallySueSaywhatagain]

Tbf, $300 annually probably won't get taxed. Unless things have changed since my 1099 days, income less than $600/year doesn't need reported.

[@shannonplimmer4981]

She said the same thing over and over and over and yet she managed to say nothing of any value. Yep - she’s definitely a member of the JLW cult. 🙈🙉🙊

[@LisaHarvey16]

She is nearly a replica with the script.

[@thezenoflux8244]

you can't make this foolery up. these scammers have no limits.

[@samanthakavanagh7034]

There are a lot of people who are doing just fine but can't afford to sponsor a family for Christmas? Not being able to donate money doesn't mean you're poor 🤦🏼‍♀️ just like $2500 isn't "life changing" money..... maybe week or month changing but CERTAINLY not life changing. Wtf.

[@user-ic9yv8jf4c]

She’s yelling at me like bosslee

[@valerienelson3296]

They act like your in school picking ypur kickball team. I am sure they will have ANYONE on their team they can suckered in, and let's hope it's not family they are dragging down.

[@Akyra2011]

It's all about recruiting, not the product.....it's almost like a (say it with me) a pyramid!!!

[@CarmenHernandez-gm1cs]

The painpoint thing irks me. Yes we all have things we want, I don't rub that in to my friends and strangers faces. Please, please stop.

[@ShanaLawson]

She makes about as much as enlisted military but with none of the benefits. The benefits are the draw.

[@mikeymike6047]

Why do they always have to mention retiring their husbands? Also, I don't think the husbands really quit their jobs,they probably just joined the MLM. I also disliked her argument "Just think: why not me?" - no, instead just think "How many people make a livable wage in the MLM? How many percent of all members is that? How probable is it for me to get to where they are?"