PK Madness + VAR: Teammates Argue, 3 PK Tries & Referee Goes TWICE to the Monitor

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Күн бұрын

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@christianyonan8201
@christianyonan8201 3 жыл бұрын
You can blame the person who wrote the rules, but not Alan Chapman here. He did everything right
@daneorigene6913
@daneorigene6913 3 жыл бұрын
I was at that game so happy we won
@jfxesports9754
@jfxesports9754 2 жыл бұрын
if the keeper just knew not to step off his line
@nemezlar
@nemezlar Жыл бұрын
this has been the rule for ages in football . watch another sport like rugby or baseball if u dont like it . + GK looks retarded . Never seen it happen more than once in European football . Sportcasters also sound retarded . Mls and american people are a joke . Stop watching + playing football . Please .
@phdcmd
@phdcmd Жыл бұрын
@@jfxesports9754 he literally has one job
@paulwoodhead303
@paulwoodhead303 3 жыл бұрын
I agree stutter steps should be rewritten, keeper already has the disadvantage in a PK. But weird as it is Ref followed the letter of the law can’t get mad at him for that.
@johnmcgimpsey1825
@johnmcgimpsey1825 3 жыл бұрын
Law 14 was specifically rewritten last year to address stutter steps by allowing keepers to have one foot come off the line. I doubt it's going to be revised again soon (but I've been mistaken before).
@jdgower1
@jdgower1 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it's a matter of being mad at the ref (though I'm sure many people are who don't know the rules as spelled out), but it is legitimate to be mad about the hard and fast rules as they are spelled out. The GK's "encroachment" in this case obviously didn't afford any advantage to him or his team, and if 'advantage' can be considered on one side of an offense, it should have equal weighting on the other side.
@johnmcgimpsey1825
@johnmcgimpsey1825 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdgower1 Frankly, the Law is harder on the kicker. If the GK infringes, it's a re-kick. If the kicker infringes by feinting at the end of the run-up, it's a mandatory caution and an an indirect free kick for the opponent. That's even if the kick is saved or missed. There have been quite a number amazing PK saves in the top leagues and competitions under the revised Law. Some GKs have obviously figured it out.
@daneorigene6913
@daneorigene6913 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcgimpsey1825 one foot is alright, both not because where are you gonna draw the line. Dudek won Liverpool a ucl final by saving penalties and he was miles out of his line
@daneorigene6913
@daneorigene6913 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdgower1 why tho? A penalty is supposed to give an advantage to the player taking it not the keeper. Faking a shot isn’t legal because the keeper can’t do nothing about but staying on your line until the player hits the ball, does not put the keeper at disadvantage. How many keepers are able to stay on their line and save the penalties? This keeper was not focused and that’s that
@coky18
@coky18 3 жыл бұрын
If coronel saved the third,.. this would be even more absurd and insane... And he almost did.
@Danny71891
@Danny71891 3 жыл бұрын
Stutter penalties should be banned as well as letting a team change the penalty taker if they get to retake it. How unfair that three different players took a penalty. Ridiculous.
@freecryptos
@freecryptos 8 ай бұрын
These are not stutter penalties, it's called: the game is rigged. Call it with the right name please.
@gagewoodcock2479
@gagewoodcock2479 3 жыл бұрын
The stutter step should negate goal keepers off their line. BS rules.
@daneorigene6913
@daneorigene6913 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree because when he did that stutter step the keeper was still on his line if you watch closely but it’s when he hit the ball, keeper was off it. Loads of keepers saves penalties with players taking stutter step. It’s not supposed to give the goalkeeper an advantage, it’s a penalty for a reason. If we allow keepers to go off their lines, where will we put the limit. Faking a shot in a penalty kick is not allowed and I understand why but a stutter is definitely alright
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania Жыл бұрын
​@@daneorigene6913That's a bs call if you know amything about the human body of a GK. You already have your movement in your mind and in your body. He wanted to wait, but the Taker simply hesitated making the move in the GK's body simply to early. I'm a former GK, trust me.
@randomaccount2880
@randomaccount2880 3 жыл бұрын
That was the most funniest thing I’ve seen all day! 😂
@DequanClarke
@DequanClarke 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! NYRB Goalie should be getting man of the match for those two saves. As much as I love the stutter step the goalie shouldn’t be penalized for moving on it too
@rickylafleur8525
@rickylafleur8525 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO but we won 😏
@Sablesuit
@Sablesuit 3 жыл бұрын
Should you really give man of the match to somebody who broke the rules twice? Part of the reason why he was able to make those saves is because he jumped off of his line. That's why they don't allow it.
@sefofiwilliamlebea4071
@sefofiwilliamlebea4071 Жыл бұрын
The commentator was just brutally honest throughout this clip
@pujangga5931
@pujangga5931 3 жыл бұрын
How annoyed the keeper is, still repect for the saves
@thedahkterizzin8831
@thedahkterizzin8831 3 жыл бұрын
He's clearly off the line twice. That's the rule and he knows it. Don't blame ref for following rules.
@Lakeland_IV
@Lakeland_IV 3 жыл бұрын
Blame VAR
@CarbonR600
@CarbonR600 3 жыл бұрын
If the player hadn't stopped his run to stutter on the 2nd PK attempt, he wouldn't have been off his line. It's ridiculous to penalize the goalie for his forward momentum when a penalty taker is trying to be cheeky.
@its_milli8403
@its_milli8403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lakeland_IV No blame whoever wrote the rules. No ref would call something that minuscule before VAR came into the pro games. But now they're forced to follow the letter of the law because its a league for entertainment, clubs would sue if there was an issue with the PK and it wasn't re taken. The ref's hands are often tied and it becomes more about money than what is best for the game.
@Lakeland_IV
@Lakeland_IV 3 жыл бұрын
​@@its_milli8403 "No ref would call something that minuscule before VAR came" ie; "Blame VAR"
@liamsaucedo44
@liamsaucedo44 3 жыл бұрын
That stutter step should be illegal imo, it’s pretty wack
@michel7850
@michel7850 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the goalie. The rule is very tough and straight, it's a bit unfair for the goalie. Even the second PK, he did a little stop in the end, how the goalie can react that fast and still need to realize he's on its line or not? They need to change it.
@corytoews5222
@corytoews5222 3 жыл бұрын
Proof that no one in IFAB ever played defense or tried to stop a PK. If anyone starts a petition to rewrite the stutter step or hand ball rule, I'll sign it. EDIT: After rewatching, it'd be interesting to pick Chapman's brain on this call. I could see this being a handball due to the "hand to ball" vs "ball to hand" consideration. If this is deemed unnatural playing position, my question (as with all defenders) is: where am I supposed to put my hands when going to ground?
@its_milli8403
@its_milli8403 3 жыл бұрын
So would I. My thinking is that his arm wasn't supporting his body. The recent law changes get rid of the part that says "when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body." So that is now punishable by a handling call in my understanding. Either way I would argue his arm isn't supporting him there anyway since its laterally away from his body not under him for support. As a referee myself those calls are always some of the most difficult because there are such good arguments for whatever decision you make.
@vincenzodanello4085
@vincenzodanello4085 3 жыл бұрын
I am a referee and I absolutely hate when this sort of PKs are given. The defender is sliding, he can't put his arm anywhere else, and he's too close to the ball in order to be able to avoid it. Anyway I actually hate how the handball rule is dealt with in general, because it's so inconsistent and often goes against the spirit of the game.
@joereynolds5476
@joereynolds5476 2 жыл бұрын
@@vincenzodanello4085 Nice to read some common sense when it comes to handball.
@TENER
@TENER 3 жыл бұрын
Can the broadcaster cry some more please. Holy XD
@AMbradfordfilms
@AMbradfordfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Next they wont allow the goal keeper in goal for pens.
@twobeaz
@twobeaz 3 жыл бұрын
Allen chapmen loves a penalty retake.
@Subihabsfan
@Subihabsfan 3 жыл бұрын
This was crazy to watch. I'm glad we got the win but geezus do we need someone who can take a penalty smh. Even Wanyama hit the goalie, luckily it went in. They gotta practice penalties as I'm sure we wont get 3 chances at it ever again.
@daneorigene6913
@daneorigene6913 3 жыл бұрын
Bro for real I was at the game and I my brother told me the 2 first ones were gonna miss cuz they didn’t look confident
@Golfnut_2099
@Golfnut_2099 3 жыл бұрын
If the GK cannot come off his line, then the stutter should be outlawed!!!!!
@jaredrobbins4440
@jaredrobbins4440 3 жыл бұрын
SAME REF AS THE ORLANDO-NYCFC GOAL LINE MADNESS LAST YEAR.
@davidparkes1917
@davidparkes1917 3 жыл бұрын
MLS clearly haven't learned their lesson yet
@wilsondeng2116
@wilsondeng2116 3 жыл бұрын
I call him the var encroachment legend
@Felix-nj8xx
@Felix-nj8xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidparkes1917 What did he do wrong here?
@alexanderthompson9070
@alexanderthompson9070 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the 'fans' throwing rubbish on the field after the third attempt ... But what a lot of crock from the penalty to the stutter step during the second attempt
@s0ccer96
@s0ccer96 3 жыл бұрын
Red Bulls got robbed. How are players allowed to stutter-step but the keeper gets penalized in that situation? Complete hypocrisy
@johnmcgimpsey1825
@johnmcgimpsey1825 3 жыл бұрын
IFAB revised Law 14 to counter the stutter step by allowing keepers to have one foot come off the line. None of those saves were aided by the infraction - if the keeper had figured out how to keep one foot on the line he'd be being celebrated.
@blodhthringa
@blodhthringa 3 жыл бұрын
John is right. The goalies can bring one foot off the line, they used to not be allowed to leave the line at all until the ball was kicked. Also, stutter steps have always existed, you just couldn't halt your forward momentum. The long, exaggerated plan step into the shot has been around longer than the law change.
@Linus76
@Linus76 8 ай бұрын
I give props to Coronel - He must have been supremely frustrated. But knows he violated LotG, and took the yellow without complaint. But to pile onto the commentators, I agree, and as an official, would like to see the kicker shenanigans come to an end.
@jdgower1
@jdgower1 3 жыл бұрын
GK doesn't have anything to be ashamed of - he guessed it right three out of three times. Also, the PK call was illegitimate from the start in the real world, but silly rules make for silly calls, so that has to be accounted for. The match should have ended as even.
@surfhappens202
@surfhappens202 3 жыл бұрын
I counted 2 out of 3
@principleparenting
@principleparenting 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I say all blame on IFAB
@jdgower1
@jdgower1 3 жыл бұрын
@@surfhappens202 True that he only stopped the shot two out of three times, but I stand by what I said, he guessed it right every time - that last time he just didn't deflect it enough to keep it out of the goal. But he did go in the right direction and get a good chance by getting a significant touch on it. I've seen three PK saves in a row before, but it's hella rare.
@jacobshea9104
@jacobshea9104 11 ай бұрын
I will tell you that referees hate this rule too. Looking for it without VAR is a pain in the butt!
@comicbrat86
@comicbrat86 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that is missing here is COMMON SENSE. I've been a qualified referee for more than 20 years and I've given many penalties. I know that the Laws of the Game state, but I was never bothered by 1/2 a yard off his line. If the GK launched himself off his line before the kick was taken, I would have had the kick retaken but not half a step, it's pathetic
@joereynolds5476
@joereynolds5476 2 жыл бұрын
I think common sense would have meant it shouldn't have been a penalty to start with.
@xin5aneshot410
@xin5aneshot410 2 ай бұрын
Players want to have a perfect officiating game. And when the goalie doesn’t stay on the line then when the ref makes the call to look at the VAR they complain. So this basically ruins the whole replace refs with robots argument. This proves that no matter what the players are gonna complain.
@accobra4272
@accobra4272 2 жыл бұрын
Some say...they r still looking at the monitor
@xetothex
@xetothex 3 жыл бұрын
how old is that tv/monitor though
@vincenzodanello4085
@vincenzodanello4085 3 жыл бұрын
The keeper had to stay on his line. He should know that it's being checked now with VAR, so he should practice his diving technique differently. With these little steps forward, you're always going to get caught by the video
@mikedavis9144
@mikedavis9144 3 жыл бұрын
yup, make the GK stand perfectly still while the guy running up does 10 stutter steps. Lame
@TheNotoriousNemo
@TheNotoriousNemo 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedavis9144 😂
@zini726
@zini726 2 жыл бұрын
There's no need to check the monitor to see if the keeper is off his line. He either is or he isn't. It's not subjective.
@nickmitrou6238
@nickmitrou6238 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm surprised nobody else pointed this out. Monitor itself was useless this could've been done by radio only.
@FalleorFalwan
@FalleorFalwan Жыл бұрын
Penalty sans discusions possible !!! C'est la règle
@FalleorFalwan
@FalleorFalwan Жыл бұрын
Normal ! Le gardien bouge avant le tir. Rien de choquant, à retirer
@StuAnderson90
@StuAnderson90 Жыл бұрын
i wonder how much RB NY put in the officials pocket quietly in his changing room and VAR.
@principleparenting
@principleparenting 3 жыл бұрын
What an utter Fiasco. A few things: 1. His arm was in the natural position. Sliding on the ground, you’d naturally put your arm in that position. Horrible rule adjustment. 2. Each time the goalie jumps off the line it in no way helps him stop the ball. Horrible rule. 3. You can bet they wouldn’t redo it if the goalie jumped off and it scored. Again a horrible rule. 4. When will the governing body actually makes or adjust rules that are fair and actually make working sense in the game? Crap rules like this set the game back and turn off any prospecting fans to the game.
@vincenzodanello4085
@vincenzodanello4085 3 жыл бұрын
1. I agree, terrible call 2. Then the goalie should practice his diving accordingly instead of doing all those little steps forward 3. If the penalty was scored there wouldn't be a retake, since the striker didn't do anything wrong 4. Well I can only agree on that
@luis43447
@luis43447 3 жыл бұрын
These commentators ran out of things to say half way in 😂😂
@calebemiller
@calebemiller 3 жыл бұрын
This is an embarrassment to the game of soccer. This must be fixed.
@pscrypto966
@pscrypto966 2 жыл бұрын
99% of refs don't call this small stutter step bs
@jonandra678
@jonandra678 3 жыл бұрын
3 TERRIBLE penalties. Ref should have disallowed the last one for being just dreadfully embarrassing.
@danked.mp4103
@danked.mp4103 3 жыл бұрын
commentators are soooo salty
@bchantharath
@bchantharath 3 жыл бұрын
the first one was too close to tell in real time
@chloiehickman1286
@chloiehickman1286 2 жыл бұрын
Biased announcers. Blame the person who wrote the rules. Sorry buddy the rules yearly. The Red Bulls goalkeeper should have stayed on the line and not tried to cheat. The keeper broke the rules twice, got caught and had to be in the goal for the pk for two more times.
@nickmitrou6238
@nickmitrou6238 4 ай бұрын
It is just a rules problem. Look how the goalkeeper doesn't even react to the retakes, he knows the rules. But this kind of set of rules takes the enjoyment out of a penalty. Good goalkeeping technique includes carrying your momentum forward towards the ball and away from goal, everyone has to take a step forward. Look at Dudek in the 2005 champions league final, the man was saving pens like 3-4 yards off the goal line and nobody cared. Somewhere in the middle would probably enhance the game dont you think.
@dansugardude2655
@dansugardude2655 3 жыл бұрын
IFAB need to change the laws at their next meeting in light of this game. I’m not blaming the referee Allen Chapman. He was just doing his job with the laws that he’s required to enforce. But actual laws (or aspects of the laws relevant to handball and penalty kicks) need to be made less strict. That handball in the area did not appear to make himself bigger or gain an advantage, yet Chapman had to award a last minute penalty kick in a tie game. And the feet off the line; I get it, we don’t want goalkeepers to jump off the line and give themselves an unfair advantage. But I would want the goalkeeper to be given a little leeway. I don’t know. It just looked like the refs were forced by the laws to essentially “help” the Quakes win the game. I know that’s absolutely NOT what they were doing; they were just following and enforcing the laws. But the optics of what the laws forced them into did not look good.
@Dracoknight
@Dracoknight 3 жыл бұрын
IFAB recently did update the laws, which went in to effect I believe the first of last month, and was mainly focused on wording revisions. One of the biggest focus was the hand ball wording, since every referee kept calling handballs that didn’t need to be called. This particular case was a good call. Yes, the player didn’t make themselves bigger nor did they attempt to play the ball with their hand, but it was in an unnatural position and they where not using their hand to support their body. His left arm is stretched out, it touches the ball and with the new IFAB changes, it’s a handball. As for the retakes, I think what made it look bad was the fact that Chapman had to go to the monitor twice. The first time was close so I’m fine with the VAR. The second call should have been easy for the AR to spot and signal to the center ref that the keeper was off his line. I think if a player goes for a stutter step and the keeper is of his line, he shouldn’t be penalized. It ruins the flow the the game and the stutter step just destroys the flow of PK.
@arroe621
@arroe621 3 жыл бұрын
Montreal impacts won the game.
@silentburnsjosh
@silentburnsjosh 3 жыл бұрын
That was no way a PK in the first place
@band586
@band586 3 жыл бұрын
It seems he doesn’t understand that he shouldn’t go out of the line before the player touches the ball.
@yann1124
@yann1124 3 жыл бұрын
commentator showing his bias lol
@Blanksmithy123
@Blanksmithy123 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't claim to be objective, it's the new york broadcast
@arroe621
@arroe621 3 жыл бұрын
take away the stutter step
@mojabaka
@mojabaka Жыл бұрын
The ball isn‘t placed correctly onto the spot every time. Should‘ve actually checked that instead of being an idiot about the goalie being of for 1 centimeter.
@Mike604
@Mike604 3 жыл бұрын
Take away the stutter step but when it’s a home player I bet you he won’t say the same, bias whiners
@jaymorales5049
@jaymorales5049 Жыл бұрын
Johnson lost his job of penalty kicker after that!
@JoeyLu
@JoeyLu 3 жыл бұрын
The 2nd try should be a yellow card for the kicker and IFK for the defending team.
@etiennebourgoin3691
@etiennebourgoin3691 3 жыл бұрын
why for the kicker?
@jpjordan90
@jpjordan90 3 жыл бұрын
We can argue about the rules of stuttering and coming of the line etc. But the main thing is, this shouldnt have been a penalty in the first place
@dertfert745
@dertfert745 3 жыл бұрын
It is though, and I hate that it is
@victorcruz9323
@victorcruz9323 3 жыл бұрын
Almost had 3 saves wow
@JoseCalderon-up1oj
@JoseCalderon-up1oj 11 ай бұрын
This how MLS Refere look so bad
@QuickScopingPerk
@QuickScopingPerk 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh this goalie
@GandrungBolang
@GandrungBolang 3 жыл бұрын
de javu ~hamid
@Anipaper_
@Anipaper_ 3 жыл бұрын
What the heck is this
@MrDzham-n1l
@MrDzham-n1l Жыл бұрын
Из-за чего три раза пенальти?
@no_username4520
@no_username4520 3 жыл бұрын
That was BS every part of it I agree with the first call no stutter step he comes off early but as I think about stutter steps shouldn’t be allowed or keepers should be allowed of the line early in that situation not super early but that’s not on the keeper on a stutter step
@QuickScopingPerk
@QuickScopingPerk 3 жыл бұрын
Also Montreal can’t take penalty kicks
@blabla1221
@blabla1221 3 жыл бұрын
Who's that salty "analyst"? I've watched a couple of his games and he's pretty bad.
@0xOrganix
@0xOrganix 3 жыл бұрын
fu%ki ng up the sport!!
@Anipaper_
@Anipaper_ 3 жыл бұрын
It's not as good as a league, but it's better than a lot of leagues out there.
@Anipaper_
@Anipaper_ 3 жыл бұрын
Also, there wasn't a single bad call made
@mattprasmussen
@mattprasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
Amro Tarek was already on the ground when the ball trickled over his arm while he slid. Retaking three PKs by three different shooters is bull. The ending of this match was a complete crapfest. I'm a big MLS fan but this was awful.
@miltonvalencia4308
@miltonvalencia4308 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@golfer435
@golfer435 3 жыл бұрын
Only in MLS
@twobeaz
@twobeaz 3 жыл бұрын
I know
@AbsoluteNut1
@AbsoluteNut1 3 жыл бұрын
The second shot the shooter stopped his motion. PK over. game over.
@VvVici
@VvVici 3 жыл бұрын
No he did not stopped his motion. If it helps, watch it in 0.25 speed. You can clearly see he's not full stop. He is always moving.
@jameshills4380
@jameshills4380 Жыл бұрын
Commenter doesn’t know what he’s on about
@danielmena78
@danielmena78 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't like the commentator, "I don't like the rules, I don't like this" bro its rules they change every season getvover it. I get it its frustrating but get over it
@noahtalley4351
@noahtalley4351 Жыл бұрын
The rules still haven’t changed!
@SpidyBat
@SpidyBat 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever tf decided to write this rule either the governing body or who ever it may be, is such a joke to society. Writing up random rules to try to make the game and MLS fair is ridiculous and the laws of the game. Such a joke
@johnmcgimpsey1825
@johnmcgimpsey1825 3 жыл бұрын
This had nothing to do with MLS. It's IFAB that writes the rules for all of world football. Lots of keepers have figured out how to keep one foot on or over the line - a change that was made by IFAB to benefit keepers, since the previous rule required them to keep both feet on the line.
@principleparenting
@principleparenting 3 жыл бұрын
IFAB BOARDROOM: How can we make the game better and less confusing? Executives busily writing solid responses. HEAD: Great! Let’s do the exact opposite.
@Se7en50Rider
@Se7en50Rider 3 жыл бұрын
The rules are dumb
@thetimeisrite
@thetimeisrite 3 жыл бұрын
Can this commentator just shut up?
@tonchi74
@tonchi74 3 жыл бұрын
The goal keeper should have gotten the yellow card after the second off line save....
@Penisqksjdhdnw
@Penisqksjdhdnw 3 жыл бұрын
He did
@kwamebaidoo9601
@kwamebaidoo9601 2 жыл бұрын
The new rule has worked in the women's game and it has worked in more competitive leagues around so stop the nonsense commentary.
@TheNotoriousNemo
@TheNotoriousNemo 3 жыл бұрын
Look i think there should be a limit, 3 times PK, give it 2 max is all im asking. Everyone going to be doing the stutter step then its dumb
@grayknight836
@grayknight836 3 жыл бұрын
3 different penalty takers, what a cluster-F! It was Interesting to watch it go down, but not fun for the New Jersey Red Bulls 🐃 and the sport ⚽️.
@Penisqksjdhdnw
@Penisqksjdhdnw 3 жыл бұрын
Stinks for us😒
@Hi_itsRaph
@Hi_itsRaph 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ‘soccer’
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania Жыл бұрын
This rule is so stupid. Let the goalie get a little bit off the line. Just for the fact that the taker stutters like the second. Penalties are just unfair for the goalies.
@lisacateyes53
@lisacateyes53 3 жыл бұрын
This bullshit is why I don't watch MSL games. I will stick to EPL and international games thank you.
@DRM0087
@DRM0087 3 жыл бұрын
Bs rules ruining the game. If goalies have limited mobility then so should the players. Goalies are already put at a big disadvantage especially with this rule
@4400seriesFAN
@4400seriesFAN Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this rule is hot garbage. But what do you except from IFAB who change their rules every three months? Look at what they did to the offside rule this year!
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