10 Times Judges Set The MMA World On Fire

[@HoRuSMU]

A "bad night" by a judge can change a fighter's life forever, it's unbearable to see the same judges make several mistakes over the years and keep their jobs.

[@Khedran]

That's just it, "a bad night" insinuates a single mess up, but time and time again the same judges make the same bad calls and are rarely (if ever) held accountable. Adelaide Bird is always my go to, she's clearly got backroom-mobster type connections with the crooked Boxing AND Mma cards she's routinely turned in.

[@loganmyall660]

Honestly I find it hard to agree with that. If Dana saw the fight as you winning there's a good chance you're still getting a good fight after. When refs have a bad night, however...

[@dmoney7784]

@@loganmyall660 Okay but if a judge screws them on a decision its half their money out the window

[@MattBeeson2004]

Enter Ian McCall poor guy probably would’ve beaten the goat DJ but the judges screwed him

[@JRF1004]

Perfect example is Reyes vs Jones, Reyes should be a former champion and having the legacy as the man that dethroned Jon Jones, and because of a shitty decision he’s just a contender in a 3 fight losing streak

[@DizzyDez613]

I get physically upset every time I hear Bruce Buffer say, “Your judges at ring side are; X, Y, and Sal D’Amato.”

[@thegriffans]

That's the best part of the judges being there Bruce calling there name after that it's all disappointing

[@teflonthedon5213]

Or Chris Lee

[@ccainum5971]

Hes better than he used to be (not a very high bar to jump). Also i remember a single time watching a fight night fight, it goes to decision and the pretty clear winner is robbed via split decision. Belive it or not the sole judge that gave the fight to the correct fighter was actually Sal D'amato. The purest irony ive ever seen

[@DizzyDez613]

@@ccainum5971 haha. That’s crazy. Even a broken clock is right twice a day I suppose. Lol

[@Fiercetits]

I cringe anytime I hear his name

[@dannywhite7786]

There’s always that random 49-46 for every single fight now

[@madgavin7568]

Just like Shevchenko's previous fight. That one came out of nowhere and was roundly criticized in the community.

[@dannywhite7786]

@@madgavin7568 yea the shevchenko 4-1 is horrible. I think Valentina won to but only 3 rounds. But like Francis and gane that one random 49-46 for Francis💀 Colby vs Usman 2 Whittaker and izzy

[@edderz101]

*Sal D'Amato starts sweating*

[@DeezNuts-gl6nx]

Worst judge in history

[@bryancastillo5045]

Lol

[@DizzyDez613]

I get physically upset every time I hear Bruce Buffer say, “Your judges at ring side are; X, Y, and Sal D’Amato.”

[@gagebrown2101]

I’m a licensed mma judge in the state of Missouri. The judging is as bad as fans yhink on one hand and on the other, it’s not as bad as they think. I’ve met some great judges and I’ve met some judges that literally didn’t know what a triangle choke was. A lot of old boxing judges were thrown into mma judging without knowing anything about grappling.

[@thexbigxgreen]

Gotta give respect for Cleary coming out with an honest and introspective apology

[@MrKinkysloth]

Yeah, definitely. Stood his ground and offered his honest viewpoint not just turning it into a pissing contest to prove his point

[@misocriallo4379]

Makes sense that he would be the judge to communicate honestly and humbly when making a bad decision on the cards, because he is actually one of the consistently better judges out there.

[@misocriallo4379]

Damn near anytime there is a questionable decision or weird split...somehow Sal D'amato or Chris Lee is involved. Sometimes both.

[@lazaruscomplexofficial]

I've had to spend a year scorekeeping shadowing judges before I've even been allowed to apply for my judge exam (next month let's go!) It helps having a boxing, muay thai, wrestling, and mma background as well as working several hours with active fighters.

[@russell2890]

Best of luck

[@frankiehitman2610]

Sweet

[@edwardreflects8500]

Nice, good luck. 👍🏼

[@Khedran]

Clearly Adelaide Bird was never required the same thing EDIT- And congrats! Hope you can help turn the misjudging around in the years to come 🍻

[@skoshow8418]

Always remember, you don’t always have to be right but you have to be fair. Hope you kill it my dude!

[@playerhateroftheyear1084]

7:26 that shot of Keith Peterson for the Cruz commentary 😂😂

[@whiskeybravo91]

I wouldn't want Chris Lee judging me either, that guy probably has more "oofs" than anyone

[@razor1957]

Sal D’Amato

[@bushisback112]

No fighter should be able to choose what judges they want for their fight thats blatantly unfair. Izzy himself has been given rounds that he clearly lost so he was a bitch for that

[@whiskeybravo91]

@@razor1957 he's got some doozies too for sure

[@NahhBPodcastProductions]

idk man, just about everytime i hear Sal D'Mato is one of the card judges I cringe before the event even starts lol

[@youlesie23]

Worth mentioning this too: Chris Tellez, the other judge who scored the fight for Diego, also hasn’t judged a fight in a major promotion since. Dana basically blacklisted them. He’d done it with officials before (Mazagatti, Winslow and later Yamasaki), but this was new ground for Dana

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Different categories for titles like Judgement Day

[@noahturtle3975]

I think the biggest problem is Nobody knows what to ACTUALLY look for when scoring fights

[@pcprinciple3774]

We do, we just don't care what the rules say, it's obvious who is winning 95% of the time

[@misocriallo4379]

Least of all Joe Rogan

[@s1nnocense]

err, the rules are open for everyone, i know what to look for, i can expect a judge to know that aswell.

[@007oskari]

@@misocriallo4379 what? I guess you just say stuff like that to appear like you know your stuff. I'm not a fan of joe but he is extremely knowledged in mma. I haven't seen him give wrong score cards. You really just say stuff like that for no reason so he we all know it's not like he doesn't know what he's talking ABOUT

[@robertcampbell8070]

​@@pcprinciple3774 Problem being the 10 point must system can make that deceptive, especially when it comes to grappling. Based on the way fights are scored currently, a basically even round with a knockdown for fighter A in the last 30 second, probably means a 10-8 for fighter A. But if in round 2, fighter B scores a takedown at the beginning of the round, keeps working and let's say alternates between side control and full mount for the next 4:30 of the round, most judges score that 10-9.

[@hardnewstakenharder]

To this day Bisping getting the nod over Matt Hamill is still the gold standard in bad judging.

[@Cuseball121]

Almost impossible to win a decision in England against an Englishman. The judging over there is horrendously home-biased

[@brooksfromtheblock]

​@@Cuseball121 spot on! i had hendo winning in manchester and silva in london but you cant win vs the count on his turf.

[@Khonnell66]

Ross Pearson v Diego Sanchez is the all time worst decision I've ever seen

[@crlclssic]

🇬🇧

[@madgavin7568]

@@Cuseball121 The ironic thing was the sole British judge actually gave the fight to Hamill, while the two American judges gave it to Bisping. Crowd pressure definitely played a part in the judges decision, but at least the British judge remained professional.

[@Turppa21]

Paddy vs Gordon just took the #1 spot lol

[@o-m2094]

Only thing to do is ALWAYS GO FOR THE FINISH, these judges are beyond incompetent.

[@madgavin7568]

The trouble is often times thats just not possible. The opponent you're trying to finish can either be too tough and/or too skilled for that to happen. Imagine trying to finish a prime GSP or Jones, good luck with that.

[@isaiahvilla6908]

4:28 is the reason why I’ve never believed ex fighters should judge fights at all. Conflict of interest, simply put.

[@AJKungFuu]

I'll never forget Ross Pearson Vs Diego Sanchez. That was the first time I was ever truly baffled by a judges decision in this sport and still to this day I haven't seen a decision that egregious.

[@Rome6601]

I was there Live... lol in Albuquerque Diego's hometown

[@Rome6601]

Actually it was in Rio Rancho... a small town right next to Albuquerque

[@QBryant14]

i remember watching that fight between ed herman vs alan belcher and short fuse lost i was pissed that he loss that fight back in the day he won the 3rd round

[@Ty-oe4dr]

bisping vs hamill comes to mind

[@Rando1975]

@@Ty-oe4dr yep. That's a complete WTF?! decision.

[@markfigueroa1681]

Tommy videos all day

[@mateibaiu945]

Keep doing what you do

[@sirhodor5655]

This channel is more addictive than the Jorge Masvidal flying knee knockout

[@rootpooty23]

The knockout isn’t that addictive it was good but it’s the only fame Jorge got anyways

[@quattrobajeena135]

It’s about as addicting as my relapse in meth addiction this week

[@nicolaspallini6338]

Awesome video!! Honestly we need another one! We need to keep burying the judges too!!! Only ex-fighters should be judges 🤘🏻

[@TheHound402]

Time is a flat circle! True Detective reference, well played!

[@austinmorganmma]

There was also a moment where Dana White removed a judge at UFC Fight Night: Bisping vs Le following the first two fights on the card after questionable split decisions.

[@007oskari]

Didn't dana once also remove the wrong judge and said after that that he won't do it again.

[@leonguyen721]

Holy shit, I took kickboxing and jiu-jitsu classes in college and Jeff Mullen was the instructor. He was nice and cool, didn't know he scored one of the worst decisions in ufc history

[@brianbuckman6908]

People are human, I’m just glad I’m not making my biggest mistakes in front of millions of angry people lol

[@mohsinhammedaldeen4343]

I've made a killing betting on fights going to a split/majority decision when it's announced that Sal D'amato is gonna judge a fight

[@donovansteffen9639]

This is the greatest thumbnail in history

[@aqibfreed4672]

How did the judges from GSP v Hendricks escape this

[@madaxwayne]

7:29 This clip had no right being this hilarious🤣 wtf is he even wearing😂

[@GmenMMA]

Its a camera for the PFL

[@nickzukowski4106]

How statistically significant are controversial/bad decisions? I get that given what's on the line "one is too many", but it would be useful to see if things are getting better or worse over time or if there any particular patterns or trends (be it individual judges, certain commissions...etc). I feel like allot of the mma media (with some notable exceptions) can't see past whatever the most recent robbery was, which may be hindering actually addressing the issue.

[@vaughnordakowski8774]

Sal and Chris Lee are the most commonly brought up names over the course of many bad decisions

[@madgavin7568]

@@vaughnordakowski8774 Adelaide Byrd as well.

[@blitz5055]

When Tommy Narrating you know it’s a good video

[@AriannaEuryaleMusic]

Ben Rosett´s Music is Awesome.. I love it

[@Lscottjose]

This is great - can we get a follow-up of when commentators have misrepresented the scoring criteria?

[@onthecagemma]

Unfortunately this happens more then needed but i guess if your live calling out a fight and you accidently say something you cant edit it out.

[@joshwick09]

Figured Tommy would be narrating this one.

[@TheHeadown]

Shout out to the good old MMA forums out there from back in the day.

[@dohertyz]

How did Cecil Peoples saying that “leg kicks don’t finish fights” not make it into this video after he robbed Shogun Rua at UFC 104?? Still the craziest thing I’ve heard in MMA

[@paulocostasbaby5659]

Think he was a kickboxing coach too 😂

[@timephire]

3:30 the face you make when you open the fridge and see that someone ate the last slice of your birthday cake...

[@dave1927p]

Why’s this not on Spotify?

[@shootandragewithme1231]

MMA on point is literally the GOAT 🐐 of mma

[@adrianyanezmma]

See some Texas judges on here 👀.... Not surprised...

[@Tandereeno]

Why is the Spotify upload to this just the backing track

[@Goatvarro]

Suggestion: latest stoppages in championship bouts

[@flaredubbzy646]

10 Judges where the MMA is ON POINT

[@JAKEBB]

Just 10??? lol

[@pasthuman]

Very entertaining stuff!

[@MichaelGaryScott90]

*”10 Times the MMA Community Bashed on Mario Yamasaki”* *fixed it for you*

[@myNameisImSorry]

Does enyone ever wonder why we all know something is a problem but we never do shit about it? Seriously, humans as a species are by far the most fascinating.

[@stephenumphress5705]

Ya, but do You guys have your new office and channel yet? I can’t tell

[@GARBO96]

I almost never agree with Sal but that Mike versus Olivera was a 10-8 a lot of Judges would have stopped that fight

[@plastique45]

NO referee would have stopped that fight as Olivera was never in trouble. That big punch that had the crowd go "WOOOOAH" completely missed and Olivera went down for an ankle pick. It didn't work and Chandler rained down some punches and the round ended. Go watch that fight again and check the replay they show right after the first round. The rear camera angle makes it extremely clear that the punch never actually even connects and Olivera immediately drops to his knees and tries an ankle pick.

[@GARBO96]

@@plastique45 you're picking me ONLY where he looked hurt but wasn't for the entire rest of the first-round Chandler was destroying him. He had wobbly legs multiple times in the first round go back and watch the entire first round not just that 15 seconds sequence your talking about

[@Sam_Fuchs]

We now have a new #1

[@youngclueless7364]

I think they should get former/active referees to judge fights because they'll have a better understanding of how a fight is going as they would have overseen many fights and results to know what will win you a round or not

[@kameronmyles2013]

*Steve Mazagati steps up*

[@blueoctober55]

Give Tommy more videos please 🙏

[@crlclssic]

Just like the commentary team now...we need fighters as judges. With a real knowledge of what's actually going on AND... experience.

[@onthecagemma]

I kind of agree with this but at the same time I feel like every fighter will be biased as they all know each other or train with certain guys. Even if they say their nor being biased I feel like they still would be.

[@leatheryfoot6354]

**Sal D'Amato has entered chat*

[@motsy15]

Kills me how people think these same judges are “ incompetent “. It’s not incompetence, it’s $

[@j.h.460]

What happened to the Spotify version?

[@jordanfrancisco27]

1M letttsssss goooooo!!!

[@aronair3532]

The vettori adesanya fight was so one sided it almost wasn’t even enjoyable 😂.

[@farissafa]

I only watch when it’s Mr tommy toehold

[@Jack-hb4dm]

Judges in the UFC should be given every form of assistance for making their decisions since a poor call made against a upcoming fighter, or a struggling fighter trying to turn it around can completely destroy their careers and indirectly cause them to be forced to put their fighting careers to the side to pursue a consistent wage

[@Stabfab]

The Hammil/Bisping robbery was one of the worst. Home cooking for sure.

[@kaisersozaay]

the "new mma on point studio" self promotion commercial begins at 13:20

[@kangoftherang7468]

Popped for the mention of Fuck-It Friday, genuinely watch it every week to see what crazy shit Dana makes that week lol

[@FrogsTinyBladder]

Bisping was gifted hamil, Silva and Henderson 2. Got smashed in all 3 fights, got ko’d by Silva.

[@mr.1217]

I recently stepped into their shoes and judged my first mma event. It was a card with a couple amateur fights but mostly pro including a former ufc fighter. And it definitely is a lot harder when you sit there cage side. When you watch on tv you see every angle perfectly which you don’t cage side. You can’t see every shot that lands, or every takedown. I even missed a knockdown because it was right in my blind spot. You also don’t see statistics or hear other people’s opinions on the round (for example a commentator) Ultimately everything went good, and nobody had a problem with a single scorecard, but it definitely is a whole new experience from just watching on tv

[@007oskari]

That's cool. Where do you live? Did you have to shadow a judge for a year? I think in us they have to but not sure of everywhere else.

[@mr.1217]

@@007oskari that was the plan, but one judge fell out a week before the card so I judged on my own

[@crovax17]

Boxing version. 1000 times judges set the boxing world on fire.

[@msanders777]

5:14 is this at Elite MMA? Looks like Eric Williams second from left. Met Eric at a wedding last year and talked to him about the sport and this card in particular. He mentioned knowing Joe and Trevin.

[@iramos2488]

Before Sal Damato it was Adelaide "dirty" Byrd.

[@Diesel257]

Cruz has an impenetrable Lil Man Complex. 😄

[@gamez4420]

Sal on Oliveira v Chandler was a perfect example on how the judging system is just too much of a mathematical breakdown to way too many variables. The best way for them to judge would be still giving the winner 10 points, but giving the loser of the round x-9 points based on how they did against the winner, so it becomes more solely judging the loser of the rounds overall performance in those categories. Use the current system just to decide the round winner. I already know it has a possible side-effect of more lopsided scores, it isn't perfect. It is a place to start atleast.

[@scottydog771]

I might be late to the party but the 10-8 vs chandler vs Oliviera is understandable. The round was even and then at the end Charles got dropped and swarmed. I get that being massive factor. It probably should have been 10-9 but if you thought chandler was winning and then saw that you'd give him a 10-8

[@destano2951]

agreed plus another judge also gave a 10-8 so it’s just everyone hating on sal

[@milogeorgiev1440]

Background music?

[@zerg9523]

Anyone got any idea what judges get paid per fight or per night of fights?

[@newyorktutors6652]

You need to redo this video to include Aljimain Sterling vs Petr Yan....the one nearly every bettor lost.

[@arikara9966]

Sterling Vs Yan 2 wasn’t a robbery lmao What rounds do you think Yan won?

[@carphucker2973]

Yan lost. Cry

[@CERTAIND00M]

Guys, calm down. That's why there's 3 of them. The only certainty in this world is that humans are flawed. Hedge your bets accordingly.

[@codylevesque5200]

Just because judging isn’t hard doesn’t mean it’s excusable when they fuck up. Theres over 7 billion people on this hellhole there is sure as shit some competent judges out there

[@Oncopoda]

Machida v Shogun has to be on here.

[@Jamesfrancosdog]

It’s a list of bad judges, not bad calls by judges.

[@Oncopoda]

@@Jamesfrancosdog I realized that shortly afterwards but I'm too proud too delete my comment. 😂

[@YNGDYE]

Gotta watch until the end for that sweet Collin McGregor

[@theshape3988]

How many fights have you watched and thought onr fighter won then on rewatch you chance your mind? I've done quite a few. Judges dont have the luxury of rewatching. They have to judge on the first watch right after. You are gonna make mistakes

[@ActAccordinglyNow]

Remember gsp vs Hendricks ? Yeah , that’s all we need to know about bad judging.

[@MattPawlowski]

It was very decisive. With GSP's resume though, I called it when the fight ended that they were going to screw over Hendricks. Unreal, but not surprised.

[@tappuzzo05]

Joe’s face says the judges weren’t needed

[@whiskeySe7en]

Hammill smashed Bisping. I had forgot that fight untill seeing it here but now I remember how fucking pissed that decision made me

[@rpmcmurphy5125]

My wife and I were at Tingly arena for the Pearson/Sanchez fight and I told my wife people are about to start throwing shit because Diego lost 😂

[@xSN1P3ZZzz]

I think they should have 3 judges, but at 3 different corners of the octagon. That way they don’t copy off each other’s homework like a 9th grader

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

If you think judges in big name promotions are bad, just want till you see regional scene judging

[@dnan9638]

The most insane shit i've heard recently was on the JRE where Joe rogan said that JUDGES DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CAMERAS OR MONITORS WHILE WATCHING FIGHTS. in 2022, ur telling me that judges can' see the same shit people at home see and have to rely JUST ON LOOKING INTO THE CAGE FROM WHERE THEY ARE??? WTFFF no wonder why the scoring is bad

[@doublea9482]

Young kids not knowing what a forum is. Reddit: Am I a joke to you?

[@freemace8427]

Am I the only one put off by the extreme volume this commentator starts these videos at?

[@skankhunt434]

Judges ruin careers

[@Wormpuller]

It’s obvious when they got money on a fighter sometimes I tell myself dang my fighter lost bad and the judges give them the foght

[@mattibluntless]

Toe Hold !

[@radekseky4571]

Reyes vs Jones better be on here.

[@brycestoll]

MMA judges should also be required to have real MMA experience and regularly train.

[@onthecagemma]

Completely agree!! or they need to be more knowledgeable on the sport and have a better understanding of chokes and holds and grappling positioning's.

[@artem_mma]

Silly Sal!

[@keegantyner856]

I feel like adding 2 more judges would solve a lot of the robbery issues. Obviously they need better judges and need to be held accountable but I feel at least 2 more judges would make up for more slip ups

[@iron6463]

Please do a video on ufc after party's , remember Tito's post fight interview I'm pretty sure it was a Chuck loss, still asking people to come because he had Jet playing

[@thegreatboppilini9006]

Former fighters should be judging these fights. Chael, Bisping, DC, those guys could be judging.

[@joshhutslar9700]

It could be a SNL skit two judges have the exact opposite and the third judges card says potato

[@supreme_xxx]

They need to have a cam that pops in of a pov right behind or above the judges cause I need to make sure they’re watching the same fight cause sometimes they’ve really gotten out of fucking hand 😭

[@erikperez8842]

The judges at amatuer events are honestly better than some of these goons

[@Watchdogger]

Heimlich...I'm roaring