Model 3 Performance battery capacity test

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[@lubricatedgoat]

Seems like the SR/+ is the efficiency champ at the moment. Can't wait for the next gen batteries next year!

[@AgentSmith911]

What are the difference between those new batteries compared to today's batteries?

[@lubricatedgoat]

@@AgentSmith911 They've yet to reveal the technical differences, but Elon said later this year he might have a talk on it. He also mentioned that they'll last about 2-3x longer (to match the life of the drivetrain/body).

[@Flutentei]

9:15 "Teslabjorn's No Copyright Songs" I couldn't hold my sh*t xDDDD

[@scratch009]

Great video like always Bjorn. Big fan from Belgium here. Love your enthusiasm like the moment 21:40 🥳👍

[@seb.]

Finally a HUD in a Tesla 13:52

Volvos with Volvo On Call has had that navigation feature for some years. I'm sure there are other cars which also has it.

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

In the efficiency comparison to the LR, try the "chill-mode". According to a dyno test, the performance is then identical to an LR. Maybe you could also do a practice test between the two, which affects acceleration and deceleration to make the performance differences visible.

[@jamesdicken3442]

Bjorn did you see the aftermarket company that sells a more aerodynamic front for model 3? Saw it on another channel. Unplugged performance I think its called? Claims increased range. Since your damaged maybe a good excuse to try it? Love the videos!

[@Chrisb8s]

No, he needs to drive a car that everyone can buy.

[@UnderWarranty]

@@Chrisb8s Can everyone afford that car ?

[@mravecsk1]

@@UnderWarranty Everyone who buys it. he meant . And it is not that expensive, look at the streets with tons of cars in price range of around 40-50k eur.

[@Chrisb8s]

Corn Pop not that. Just that it is available. If he tests a car with too many mods it won’t be relevant to others driving that car. Not about affordability

[@DirtyTesla]

Yeeeees been waiting for this test from you!!!

[@NormalXP99]

This comment has gone under the radar lol.

[@SURFpal]

Fun fact: The 0.5% odometer difference is the same as less than a 2mm wear of you tires!. If your rolling diameter is D= 30 inches,, D * 0.005 = 0.15 inch on the diameter and half on the radius, i.e. 0.075 * 25.4mm = 1.9mm. Your smaller tires runs faster and the odometer will increase. From a new 8mm tire down ti the legal thread limit of a millionth of a US mile, you can expect an increase of around 3 x 0.5% = 1.5% in speed and odometer reading.

[@evolor]

The difference in kilometres from google map, could it have something to do with the difference wheel/tire size from the original?

[@libertymurf281]

Yes

[@tomaskonkol8894]

yes difference it is in wheel size, what lane you driving also how you going across the corners or if you overtake and you change from lave to lane. there its many variables and easy could be accounted easily up to 5% of total distance.

[@chriskreidler1137]

When you change tires the car prompts you to enter what size tire you installed. I think that's correct because it would've been a bigger error, probably something smaller like tire pressure.

[@LesterDFunk]

Even for a given size not all tires are exactly the same height. Small variances between styles are normal, and tread depth will also change your tire diameter.

[@PL-fh8cz]

On my bicycle computer, I have a measurement for wheel size & tire size for a total wheel diameter. On a bike, this makes a difference in the accuracy of speed & distance measurements.

[@libertymurf281]

Like a Boss! Good sheeeeeit mang!👍

[@loganzcai]

BMW supports sending Google Maps to car assuming your car is 2014 or newer and you’re paying for Connected Drive. I used that feature when I had a BMW i3. The send from google to car was really helpful when typing on the iDrive controller is meh.

[@3DAerobatix]

Hi Bjorn, I’m getting 246 watts per mile with the 20” rims on a Model 3 performance. (or 154 watts per km).

[@michelroerdink6587]

Bjørn I love your channel but it looks like that you're getting more careless when you're driving. You have the camera in your hand while driving and using your smartphone at the same time. I know MC Hammer has autopilot but this can go south very quickly. Take care of yourself man. Greetings from Holland.

[@Baisemannen]

I can send destinations to my B250e navigation so Mercedes has that feature :)

[@patmcdaniel2016]

You are so very entertaining.

[@smoothoperator1061]

Hello Bjorn, maybe the difference is also due to the change of rails and the fact that when we drive, we don’t take the shortest way on the road.

[@FrankTaylorLieder]

Sharing destinations from my phone is a cool feature. It’s pretty much how I do all my routes.

[@SebastiaanBakker1]

Thanks for the video. A little sad that you started holding and even using your phone whilst driving. I don't think you used to do that before. Be careful, keep paying attention to the road and when you do need to intervene, having two hands available is so much safer.

[@funkydunky1430]

Do google maps take into account slopes? Sloped path is always longer than its projection onto the horizontal plane. They are equal only in the case of completely horizontal path.

[@zvdfk]

Very interesting video again Bjørn! What are your thoughts on the VW ID Neo, is it going to be a big hit in europe? And will it be comparable to the Model 3, even though it will cost less?

[@heavymetalboi]

Ikke vær en av de som kjører i 90 i 110-sonen. Det er rett og slett farlig for andre bilister, ellers en god video:)

[@bjornnyland]

+Jø Wa kzbin.info/www/bejne/amG2gp-mnbWKo8U

[@bjornnyland]

+Jø Wa And it's bullshit. It's not dangerous to drive in 90 km/h which is the same as what trucks drive. Driving in 40-60 km/h would be dangerous. But not 90 km/h.

[@seb.]

I wouldn't trust the GoogleMaps distance to be the real life one, and after all if you do change lanes while you drive, you're already adding distance.

[@DA-dv7ey]

Awesome commitment Bjørn! Marathon Tesla driver

[@ericoudammerveld424]

I'd like "M3 Hammer" better for a name.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Or M3 Hamm3r

[@Simple_mechanic_guy]

Hello Bjørn. You're one of the best. Thanks. BTW : model 3 is too much noisy for the price. :(

[@RuneVenes]

Of corse you can share destinations from Google Maps or Apple maps with other cars as well.

[@adfgasdfful]

Yes. For example Audi cars do it: “share” via “myAudi” App.

[@AllTimeAutoReviews]

Run out of juice in the Tesla for a video Love the videos by the way

[@AgentSmith911]

@@rogerstarkey5390 How is he damaging his car by running it out of juice? Do you really think Tesla would sell cars that got ruined by reaching 0%? That's like Toyota selling gas cars that'd get ruined if they ran out of gas.

[@kevin42]

Roger Starkey no, but these battery’s are desiged for 1000 - 1500 cycles, doing a 100% - 0% discharge once or twise, or even 10 times for that matteryisnt gonna lead to any noticable degredation. Infact its recommended to do so every once in a while to reset the BMS’s energy estemator for more reliable degredation/range estemation

[@pers.jrgensen3178]

Hi Bjørn The VW e-Golf also have the feature to share from Googlemaps, but a step better as you can add many waypoints. So I can setup my hole route from Oslo to Bergen adding all the stops/sites on the way. In my Model X it still not possible ....just point to point

[@royketil]

That is a big "no-no" with Teslas. I really would like Tesla to implement Android Auto or some other way of making it possibe to plan trips with google maps (with waypoints) and transfer to the car.

[@pers.jrgensen3178]

Yes android or carplay... stop all these Atari games and develop a real navigation platform... or buy themselves free with third party app. Teslas navigation is like and old fax machine

[@MrSportauspuff]

Also all fossil Mercedes-Benz cars with navi and Mercedes Me can send adress from Google maps or Apple maps like this. Introduced 2016 on the new E-class when it was lunched. Now all Mercedes cars has this feature.

[@9kilsyth]

Bjorn have watched your videos for years...I have a Model s which is about 3 years old....Is the Model 3 as comfortable and as quiet as the Model s? Keep up the good work.

[@SigurdFlaatten]

On Fortum chargers with CCS, start charging first, THEN put the plug in. Then it works 100% - I have the same issue on E-Up!

[@electriccarstv]

Perfekt Tesla 👑, thank you Bjørn

[@norbertholzmann8653]

Great video!

[@Arpedk]

127 kW charging ftw :D :D Well done Bjørn! - Thanks for the info :-)

[@aigarius]

The phantom cars dancing around the screen at 3-4 minutes in are really scary in FSD context.

[@Aureliius]

You are never using Navigate on Autopilot, that makes me a sad panda!

[@memoli555]

BMW Connected app does send destination to the car’s navigation system. But not from within google maps that I know of.

[@lucheijnen1312]

Google map car link also possible with Audi A4 Allroad Virtual Cockpit - very cool integration feature

[@veganinstinct2813]

So what would the range be if you drove a more normal speed, cause driving 90 all the time is not a good speed on dutch highways. I would like to know what the range is if you drive 110 or 120kmph all the time.

[@bjornnyland]

+Vegan Instinct kzbin.info/www/bejne/amG2gp-mnbWKo8U

[@kasmopaya2676]

Nice Bjørn! I also always wanted to know if Model 3 can handle 18" and if that increases efficiency. By the way, in Germany the Supercharging costs just increased. 500km on Model 3 are about 37,5€ instead of 25€. You lucky Ninja with your free km on MC Hammer!

[@patrikj]

"Lance: They should be f***ing killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution. Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it." These guys are lucky Vincent's Malibu didn't have sentry mode...

[@Talaxianer]

Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3!!! Did you know, that the first video you get recommended, when you search for 'nereus tires' on google, is from uncle Bjørn?

[@hirosima1984]

Winter tires have more resistance, so try summer tires

[@johnroehsler6440]

I enjoy the videos. I just get in my car and drive.

[@DJRaffa1000]

i think the supercharger are only "putting out" 118 kW since they use a quater system .. they have 30 kW charging units in the cabin and assign up to 4 to a supercharger stall stall (that way they can maximize utilization .. and thats also why you get reduced speed when plugging into a stall that is shared with one thats already loading another car .. the first car gets 1 charger taken away and only charge with 90 kW and you get that 1 charger to charge with 30kWunitl the first car is around the 60kW then it gets switched to 2/2 and both cars get 60 kW .. etc) ... and the 2 kW lost there are propably charging loss over the cable length from where the charger units are housed to the car

[@kevin42]

The BMS adds a slight buffer below 0%, so i dont think ur battery has degraded, its just that u arent pushing it to its absolute limit in terms of energy left.

[@bjornnyland]

I don't count hidden capacity past 0 %. No one should.

[@kevin42]

Bjørn Nyland wise. But i think the BMS counts that too while measuring degredation

[@AgentSmith911]

Why are you driving 20 km/h under the speedlimit? 🤔

[@Amphibiot]

I'm guessing because air resistance is lower, and therefore you can get som extra distance out of the battery.

[@bjornnyland]

+Anon Anon Because heat loss must be as low as possible in order to get the correct measurements.

[@TommyboyGTP]

@@omelvold In order to simulate combined driving, you need to do combined driving. Going slow and steady maximizes efficiency. This is not an accurate test.

[@gospelhubdigital]

Bjorn it's 5. 42 and u did not even drink a coffee LOL

[@mr23monkey]

Maybe you should measure your driven distance with GPS, because the distance of Google Maps might not be ob spot either.

[@jakewarren9465]

Gps distance can not measure the extra ground covered when going up and down gradients, Gps speed also cant compensate for gradient.

[@CACars]

Hi Bjørn. I do miss a "normal" rewiev of the M3. Would you consider doing that in the nearest future, when you are back from Japan. Among other things, I am corious about consumption for heating the car, since it doesn´t have a heatpump. Information like that would be appriciated :) Enjoy your stay in Japan :)

[@sadlogic]

Ive seen the Kona, Niro and Model 3 (in USA) range Tests and they all do 510km, but the model 3 has a bigger battery which means its less efficient. Thats a bummer. I thought it was almost as efficient as the Ioniq. Maybe with the 120km/h test it would fare better?

[@mattaut88]

did you test the LR RWD?

[@sadlogic]

@@mattaut88 The test in the USA was of a RWD i think.

[@alconaft4343]

Bjørn, Scan my Tesla now supports Model 3, so it is time to get the adapter :)

[@MrGonzonator]

Try A Better Route Planner. It has all the non Tesla chargers too, and a more realistic charge indicator. Do you have the Plug Surfing fob? It amalgamates a whole bunch of different charge networks..

[@Joakimjakobsen]

Could it have something to do with that no one drive very straight on the road? Not totally in the middle of the lane all the time, and that is what can cause some more meters in the end.

[@nathanchilton803]

You use more battery when you use autopilot. That might account for the range difference.

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52YlIRtd8tgbrM

[@colvaq]

About send the address from maps or google maps to the car in real time or before arrive to the car, Tesla is not the first one... E-Class can do it from 2016... afaik, currently every MB model with Mercedes ME app compatible can do it 😀

[@1sheinz]

I noticed at the start of the video that your front left and right sensors wernt picking up vehicles until they were beside you. Have you noticed this and does it have to do with your stunt driving on ice episode hahahsheeeeeeett Cheers Steve h.

[@bjornnyland]

+1sheinz no

[@jasong6460]

You might only have 73.2 because remember Elon said recently that all model 3 have roughly 8 miles of extra reserve range

[@hknklc]

@16:14 Can I assume that - with the degredation of 1.8 kWh - you can at least expect a loss of 120 km after driven for 100K?

[@maldiesmaldas]

Hákân K the degradation isn‘t linear. For the first 20k or so the degradation is relativley strong, but then it decreases and has an slightly flat linear trend. I think 10% degradation after 100k is realistic, what corresponds to 50 km, depending on driving and charging behavior of course. But we will see, when he repeats the test in future. Last week Bjorn released a video about thr degradation of his former Model X after 100k.

[@hknklc]

That's a big relief to hear! I was already doubting whether it could be linear or not. If so, it would (according to the stats) come to a degredation of 24% after 100K. Thanks for the clarification. Will definitely do some more research.

[@ununoctiu]

Hey Bjorn, have you done a performance battery capacity test but going at a normal speed? lIke 120, 130kph.. Thank you for all your videos!

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/amG2gp-mnbWKo8U

[@njohan81]

Winter tiers do take more "juice" from the battery...

[@DanielZaar]

Share location to car has been a feature for a while :P ....Too bad one cannot share a set of directions with waypoints in it though.

[@jnstroik]

What kind of range would you get if you were instead driving about 125km/hr? That's a realistic speed on US freeways where the speed limit is often 70mph / 113kph

[@bjornnyland]

+Jesse Stroik kzbin.info/www/bejne/amG2gp-mnbWKo8U

[@dorsvenabili9123]

Hello, I am a big fan of your videos, well done. My question is about regen mode and impact on autonomy for cruising on the motorway. Is it better to keep on max regen or I'd rather switch to low regen on motorway to let the car cruise when the road goes slightly down?

[@bjornnyland]

It doesn't matter too much on the motorway because the slopes are not steep.

[@markymaarty]

Hi there! Thank you for the video. Is it ok to keep charging the battery even though my battery is only at 80-100miles? Will this shorten the battery life? Or do I need to wait until I reach 20-30% before charging? have the SR+ Rated @220miles.

[@peiyuzheng7592]

Hey Bjorn, really liking your videos, im wondering if the use of autopilot reduces your range as it takes a lot of calculations and stuff of the car. Can you please test that for me? :D

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52YlIRtd8tgbrM

[@JamieHarveyJr]

Has anyone measured the battery voltage in the LR model 3 when SOC is at 0-1%? I’m curious where Tesla considers the 2170 volts to officially be at 0%

[@maximilianholland]

Hi Jamie, I'm interested to know this also. It the voltage drop off looked very steep between 3% (319 volts) and 4% (328.5 volts). It has levelled off considerably by the time we saw 29% SOC (372.3 volts). I'm guessing at 100% it is 410 volts (the max voltage output of V2 superchargers). The steepness of the voltage drop off approaching empty suggests that 0% SOC might be as low as 285 volts (or 295 volts at the most).

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

What was the conclusion of the battery capacity? Is it a 75 or 80kwh battery? 😅

[@Chrisb8s]

When is your trip to Japan. It would be funny to run into you. My family and I are also planning a trip to Japan

[@adammuc]

Send destination from google to car? BMW can do it as well... 😉👍🏻

[@mightygood1]

Hey Bjorn. Have you seen any good summer M3 range tests. Most of the year where I live is 30-40 degrees c. What do you think the real range of say a long range rwd with the aero wheels would be at highway speeds 100-110 kph?

[@mattaut88]

how much better would LR AWD with 18" Aero Caps perform?

[@Aureliius]

At least 10% better, thats at least that what Tesla says.

[@mattaut88]

@@Aureliius cool. I'm lucky then ;) wonder when SR+ will arrive for Bjørn to test.

[@gatisga]

try HYPERMILING, please!!

[@mleitner0]

Also I have never got any we're close to the wh/ml you have gotten my cars life time is 339wh/ml you were getting 240wh/ml . Going 55 on the freeway would end up just pissing people off in the US and I would end up shot...

[@Pus1]

Remember to connect the car to wifi to get updates

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/apKyeqWapcdkbKc

[@mleitner0]

Just an FYI it's not a Tesla thing I have had 3 cars that can take CCS DC and they all did the same thing they don't take the charge the first like 2 or 3 trys.

[@NeverFollows]

10:43 What App are you using to make an itinerary and what WiFi or Bluetooth setting are you using to transfer the map to Tesla?

[@OzAdventurer]

good video. Am interested to know if you had to buy new charging adapters now you have CCS plug when you plug in to non ccs chargers or connect to the juice booster. Like ccs to type 2 adapter, or ccs to j1772. I believe chademo is not compatible at all so no adapter exists.

[@RuneVenes]

He use his type 2 charger at home. Nothing changed from X to 3.

[@finnmacg]

Wow I know Scotland isn’t that far away from you, but there was no temperature difference.

[@brettmciver432]

could the difference be in the size of the tires?

[@aigarius]

Sooooo, in the end Tesla Model 3 Performance has less range than Hyundai Kona? You got that to 510 km on a route that looked similar to this.

[@bjornnyland]

Model 3 Performance has more range. Today it was rainy and the temperature was around 15-20°C. During my test with Kona, it was all dry and temperature was 20-28°C. My guess is that if I drove Kona today, I would get about 470 km. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaKWgKKQpLqNeKM

[@JM-wd3dk]

Anybody else noticed how the Teslas radar was glitching out in the beggining an not properly picking up vehicles? Is that normal?

[@coronachinesevirus8808]

J M That’s normal when there is a glitch

[@ryccoh]

Is the radar damaged because the bumper is?

[@JM-wd3dk]

@@ryccoh that's what I was thinking too. 🤔

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Looking forward to see 18 rims on ! Less noise? Please test the sound difference👍

[@TBasianeyes]

It isn't using radar for this, this is all done with cameras. Radar is pretty much only used for measuring distance to the car driving in front of you.

[@nathanchilton803]

Instead of the “door partially open” hack, just put it in dog mode.

[@bjornnyland]

Old habit. But HVAC was off during the whole test.

[@adrianbowie2094]

They do make white duct tape that silver duct tape makes your Tesla looks so GHETTO!

[@davidkay3151]

When you stopped for buns the heater was on while the car was off. Is it true that the energy used while car is off does not show up on trip meter? Could that be the reason your capacity was lower than expected?

[@bjornnyland]

Heater was off during the whole test.

[@GhitaA]

what was the average speed for the whole 500 km trip?

[@benthecaptain7419]

Maybe the car keeps a teeny bit of reserve for driving below 0km range left.

[@ericspda]

Yep, most manufacturers do this when the consumer expects to be able to use something to zero. There’s inherent uncertainty to the remaining capacity, so it’s very common to add a little extra bit below zero to account for this. In addition to that, deep discharges are much worse for the battery than charging higher, so it’s common to add even a bit extra the car will never let you use to protect the battery.

[@bjornnyland]

+Benjamin Orlowski Yes. But we don't count on that.

[@ericspda]

Zar TheMad Yes, this is exactly why they intentionally add some buffer to the low end. It’s much more complicated than that though, so it may stop driving before 0%, that does not mean the battery is dead. It more likely means one cell string hit a low voltage cutoff, which is more likely if the battery is cold, under high load, or both. The car will most likely drive further if you drive very slowly at low state of charge, and flooring it everywhere with a cold battery will likely cut off early. This just means a cell hit too low voltage before the car expected. It could be from more degradation than expected, or higher internal resistance than expected. Either way, that’s what a buffer at the bottom is designed to prevent. But if you add capacity below 0%, you can’t use it for the estimated driving range on the window sticker, so you’re paying for a larger battery that consumers don’t ‘see’, so they try and minimize the amount below zero and sometimes it may stop early.

[@andersvedel3243]

Hi Björn. We still need to see a child seat test.

[@aberney7848]

Hallo. Wir haben erst vor 3 Wochen, Möhlin Schweiz, ein Model 3 test gefahren und hatten unseren Sohn dabei (6 Monate) haben die Baby Schale dabei. Es war kein Problem diese zu montieren und ich Musst den Beifahrersitz nicht mal verstellen um den Schalenbügel um zu lenken. Habe mich (1m 83) kurz nach forne begeben und muss sagen; ich hatte sehr viel Platz für die Beine. Also von der Grösse her tiptop. LG ( Die die kein Deutsch können einfach mit Google übersetzen lassen)

[@andersvedel3243]

Danke. Super Info veil diese baby Schale braucht mehr platz wie eure Kinder sitzen.

[@danielgamelas1367]

@ 16:15 the car goes 102.1km to 102.3km

[@oddixgames6704]

thumbs up for the music!

[@MagivaIT]

ok ok good video as always but you're so focused on range testing, try and remember that alot of us are still driving basic fossils. why not demo and test all the features that us fossil people don't have. tyre pressure sensors, emergency breaking, people detection, auto following cars in traffic jams. i think you've got so used to the tech you've forgotten about what we don't don't have

[@frankscorer407]

What is the sense of this test when you drive around in a pretty unrealistic speed? At the distances in Norway who would stay 20 km/h below (the already low) speed limit?

[@afelso]

This is not a range test but battery capacity test. He intentionally uses low power since that gives more accurate measurement.

[@bjornnyland]

+Frank Scorer The purpose of this test is to have as low heat loss as possible.

[@roomempty343]

Why Norge superchargers dont have Suomi language selection? ^)

[@kulttuurihai1791]

Greetins from Finland! T:kulttuuri🦈

[@danielrafn9068]

Why is the supercharging price currency set to SEK?

[@bjornnyland]

Because the last time I supercharged was in Sweden. You can't see it on the screen, but it refers to the last supercharging location in Uddevalla.

[@Shenepoy]

RIP Hammer jaw

[@jerkermikaelsson5514]

Den front er ikke at tage fejl af. Jeg mødte dig på den Fynske motorvej mellem Odense og Nyborg i sidste uge. Formentlig på vej hjem fra Bruxelles.

[@jamesbriceno1576]

Gj

[@lubnahammami8801]

Hes from norway