Model Y E21: Headliner Comparison M3-MY, B Pillar Integration, and Questionable Trough Mods

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@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Some points about the Model Y & Model 3 comparison need some clarification for people. The 2 vehicles share a "platform" which is done often throughout the automotive industry. For example the Chevy Cruze and Chevy Equinox are on the same vehicle platform. The whole point of sharing a platform is to share components to bring the cost of manufacturing down but still offer consumers a variety of options in the final product. It is extremely likely that many of the changes we are seeing on the Model Y are being implemented on the Model 3 already or likely will be in the future. The same thing can be said for many other car manufacturers that make yearly changes to their vehicles. A 2019 version of a Chevy Cruze might have some changed components over a 2018 version and that likely would roll over into the Chevy Equinox as well. We'd love to teardown every year of every vehicle but that would be extremely expensive, time consuming, and frankly not worth it. It is safe to assume that the 2020 Model 3 looks a lot more like the Model Y these days. But only for components that are shared between the two. Thank you all for wonderful support and discussion!
@niolss
@niolss 4 жыл бұрын
Munro Live why don’t you have advertisements enabled
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
@@niolss Still waiting on KZbin's review process. Unfortunately, it takes a while...
@niolss
@niolss 4 жыл бұрын
Munro Live ok, sorry to heat that. Love Your videos. You have a crazy amount of knowledge, so impressive. So nice to ser that Tesla are goding in the right direction too. I will rewatch all you videos again when you have adds so you can get a little revenue. We are all suffering in this crisis. Keep up the great work!
@xiaop123321
@xiaop123321 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Munro, hope you have wonderful day. If cyber trucks come out you should do episode on it. Ps: also Rivian truck can also be fun too
@subwarpspeed
@subwarpspeed 4 жыл бұрын
I assumed that it was like that. But your disassembly of the 3 and Y, both early cars, creates a benchmark of how well Tesla has designed and created a car from the start and not how they changes it after customers had it for a year. So sure we expected Y be better than 3 since it shares some/lots of design and that Tesla is learning - but by how much is the interesting part. And then when it comes cybertruck which is a completely different design, it would be interesting to hear/see you do it - will it be a much more mature product from the beginning or will it have things that makes no sense as the 3 had?
@MaxxerG
@MaxxerG 4 жыл бұрын
13:40 from that nervous laugh you can tell he doesn’t like to ask for charity when it gets to the selling advertising portion of the video. The quality of these videos is incredible. 1 straight shot, no cuts, no editing, just knowledge and professionalism. Respect for your work Sandy.
@jamesthomas1244
@jamesthomas1244 4 жыл бұрын
He's an extremely humble man who speaks his mind. Quite the rarity, and i can not help but love the guy.
4 жыл бұрын
Its quite impressive that you did this in one shot, this episode was super-smooth!
@bob15479
@bob15479 4 жыл бұрын
Tomás Ottonello Sandy’s style is a fresh of breath air on a platform clogged with videos that cut every 3 seconds.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 4 жыл бұрын
@@bob15479 I imagine it's also out of necessity, he's got a lot more important things to do than make vids.
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 4 жыл бұрын
The segue way to the B-post camera was really well done. That’s beyond professional level work.
@MaxxerG
@MaxxerG 4 жыл бұрын
@@bob15479 I was thinking the exact same thing
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 4 жыл бұрын
And to think it's just a dude walking around his garage talking about cars :) it's awesome that they are posting it!
@martingardens
@martingardens 4 жыл бұрын
"The guys on the floor sometimes hate them and other times loathe them". Sandy is the new Will Rogers.
@robertscully9686
@robertscully9686 4 жыл бұрын
Like " ....what time is it boys and ....", how many viewers need to Google Will Rogers? 🤠
@TheVineOfChristLives
@TheVineOfChristLives 4 жыл бұрын
Remember being a kid and taking random things apart? This video series is like my dream come true when I was a kid. I always wished someone could or would explain to me why things were built a certain way.
@accountname1651
@accountname1651 4 жыл бұрын
Jed Cruz I am wondering if you never thought of working in a repair shop for cars or washing machines or sth. like that?
@TheVineOfChristLives
@TheVineOfChristLives 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Andy I went to school to be a computer engineer now but now I mostly toy around with software and cloud architecture. 😅 nothing under the hood except a bunch of code. Altho sandy’s vids inspire me to get back into design thinking.
@rausch101
@rausch101 4 жыл бұрын
"these little chicken shit things don't matter that much" hahaha love it 13:33
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 4 жыл бұрын
rausch101 I say that to people backing Biden all the time and no that doesn’t mean I support Trump
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrew11 Stop supporting trump.
@jacob9895
@jacob9895 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrew11 lol which one?
@qpwodkgh2010
@qpwodkgh2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrew11 ... compared to you, chicken shit at least has a use.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 4 жыл бұрын
William Sheehan whatever you say bitch
@miltonmiller
@miltonmiller 4 жыл бұрын
Yesterday at the grocery store the cashier was an older gentleman, probably around 60 years old. I asked if I could have money back on my transaction, he said yes, and I punched in for $10. When he handed me the receipt and the money I said "That is for you. Just a tip for your excellent job." YOU SHOULD SEE THE SURPRISE ON HIS FACE! That made my day. He was so happy. I was wearing a mask so he couldn't see the size of my smile. This was one of the best ideas. Thanks Sandy for that.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome story, Milton, thanks for sharing and for your generosity. Great stuff!
@gadashiagbor112
@gadashiagbor112 4 жыл бұрын
This has quickly become an addiction. Great work Uncle Sandy
@brandonsmith8235
@brandonsmith8235 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for deciding to make these Sandy. Really love the feedback, positive and negative.
@praveenkumaryo
@praveenkumaryo 4 жыл бұрын
Mobiles : Jerry Rig Everything Laptops : Louis Rossman Cars : Munro Live Wish these people did a collab video 🙃
@Arpin_Lusene
@Arpin_Lusene 4 жыл бұрын
Hotel : Trivago Sorry couldn't resist.
@QaisMaaitah
@QaisMaaitah 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arpin_Lusene 😂
@ogodei70
@ogodei70 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the AxE channel for tool teardowns. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIqaiYJrfcRpfrs
@rkan2
@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ogodei70 AvE*
@Enemji
@Enemji 4 жыл бұрын
You missed LockPickingLawyer
@Urgelt
@Urgelt 4 жыл бұрын
The Third Row video featuring Elon and Sandy was great, don't miss it.
@TheVineOfChristLives
@TheVineOfChristLives 4 жыл бұрын
Agree!!
@ziggs123
@ziggs123 4 жыл бұрын
Where can i find it?
@Urgelt
@Urgelt 4 жыл бұрын
@@ziggs123 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pprLZZ6La96psJo
@ziggs123
@ziggs123 4 жыл бұрын
@@Urgelt thanks mate
@bobwallace9753
@bobwallace9753 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVineOfChristLives Sandy's insight about why ICEV manufacturers are so slow to develop EVs is well worth the listen.
@qpwodkgh2010
@qpwodkgh2010 4 жыл бұрын
And for the biggest deal of all. What does Sandy drive? A Wrangler. Great video series Mr. Munro. You are a real class act. If you want to know about a car, come and see Mr. Munro. He'll give it to ya straight.
@grizzlymartin1
@grizzlymartin1 4 жыл бұрын
The more I watch your program, the more respect, admiration and even pride I feel for the talents and drive of so many of my fellow human beings. It's an inspiration for me, at a time when I personally believe the everyday american is being fleeced by oligarchs and their corrupt employees - the politicians. I don't watch "news" anymore...I just watch "Munro." :-) I learn a hell of a lot more.
@ivankuljismusic8895
@ivankuljismusic8895 4 жыл бұрын
i'm comin' back____for more, Sir Sandy! You ARE 'The White Knight' of Automotive Tear-downs! Thanks Sandy and SM+A Team!
@alanmoss4407
@alanmoss4407 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy - roof grab handles are really helpful for those of us with lower back, hip and/or knee problems. They allow us to add upper body strength to help us enter or exit from vehicles. They’re especially helpful in lower riding cars.
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 4 жыл бұрын
Love your break downs. Thanks. Suggestion: Drop a sheet on your board your trying to keep out of prying eyes. I get it and thats fine but a sheet covering that would make your post production smoother and your viewers dont get the blurry shots not needed. Good work!
@Paul-pj5qu
@Paul-pj5qu 4 жыл бұрын
This is really quite fascinating. And although I don't understand everything, Sandy does a good job of not getting too deep into technical lingo, but where technical lingo is used it's explained.
@jasong6460
@jasong6460 4 жыл бұрын
2:33 Tesla stopped using it at around vin 3,000 and switched to the same material as Model Y
@DeerKoden
@DeerKoden 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, i remember reading about them switching to a different material for the headliner.
@chriscarr82
@chriscarr82 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many other differences being pointed out in these episodes that are already standard on today’s model 3.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
GTK ty
@DeerKoden
@DeerKoden 4 жыл бұрын
@@chriscarr82 that's true, Tesla has always been busy at making many changes over time without releasing specific restyled versions (aside of the Model S maybe).
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 4 жыл бұрын
And the forums bitched to no end about it!
@luisvalencia2350
@luisvalencia2350 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry Munro, Elon loves your feedback. !! Keep up the good job.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine there's at least one employee assigned to watch and relay problems to the department's concerned? In fact, all department heads are probably watching?
@gerhardkutt1748
@gerhardkutt1748 4 жыл бұрын
Remembering this is a really early roll off the assembly line, I would imagine there are lots of go arounds - or design mistakes and changes which was not properly logged. If it is still structurally sound, and you can't see it, it really does not matter. It will no doubt be noted and redone. The Model Y overall looks like it will be the best selling Tesla to-date. Great job Sandy and team. Great transparency. The learning and improvements continue. I am sure Elon appreciates the care that is taken and the comments made by Sandy. Everybody wins.
@aaronbounds1336
@aaronbounds1336 4 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I became aware of the third row Tesla podcast with you and Elon musk on it. Watched it. It was awesome. It's too bad that the two of you couldn't have interacted directly more on the event in real time but it seems like your connection was a little bit laggy so you couldn't really get a word in edgewise. Nonetheless, it was super awesome to have to Tesla heavy hitters sharing some space. Also, hopefully you get to interact with him at least on the phone to share ways to improve the production process for all Tesla vehicles. It seems to me that they are really something else in terms of ideas, although they might have some drawbacks, and they are only going to get better which will only help them which in turn will only help us all. Thanks for all of the work and keep up the good work.
@dennisjutzi7075
@dennisjutzi7075 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sandy you’re insightful comments on the model Y build quality are really on the money. I am a former shop teacher. Wish I could expose students to your clear presentation of construction materials and techniques. You could influence many to follow a career in the trades.
@g-palmer4760
@g-palmer4760 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all you are doing Sandy... Just made a small contribution to you via your shop. Would strongly encourage everyone else to do so as well.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support and thanks for tuning in!
@dzerres
@dzerres 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I like grab handles. On a long car ride I tend to look for them to locate my arm to another resting spot for a bit - obviously, passengers only. I did observe my elderly mother reaching for the grab handles when she was trying to exit my car. They are a nice feature.
@glenncordova4027
@glenncordova4027 4 жыл бұрын
My 85 year old mother loved them and used them all the time.
@danneil8778
@danneil8778 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sandy Munro and Associates. You bring light where there is darkness.
@krrk6337
@krrk6337 4 жыл бұрын
People should make these engineering vlogs a thing!
@DavidSpiers
@DavidSpiers 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda glad you're finding things wrong with the model y, be interesting to see/ hear how long it takes Tesla to sort out these issues.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine many are already fixed. The next batch of headliners will have the clip moved, same with the wiring/ moulding.
@L3uX
@L3uX 4 жыл бұрын
The running change rate for Model 3’s/Model Y’s is incredibly quick. Depending on the issue, it could be engineered approved, introduced within a few weeks.
@madgaming3172
@madgaming3172 4 жыл бұрын
Especially with the current downtime of freemont i expect the next batch to incorporate many small changes/improvements. Sandy already said that Tesla worked out how to get some insulation around the compressor in the Y. Yes, super interesting to find all those small things.
@scanspeak00
@scanspeak00 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy has the perfect temperament for this kind of job.
@stephenw4720
@stephenw4720 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of details Munro has mentioned is total a new level of ball game comparing to other youtubers.
@rpmtesla
@rpmtesla 4 жыл бұрын
Model 3 headliner was only alcantara for the first 3,000 Vin’s. After they all went to the gray cloth for both Model 3 and Y. FYI. Great video !!
@accountname1651
@accountname1651 4 жыл бұрын
RPM's TESLA Aftermarket Accessories so quality decreased to that plastic material?
@rpmtesla
@rpmtesla 4 жыл бұрын
Quality? Smoothness of a made made fabric does not mean quality decreased.
@edwardbyard6540
@edwardbyard6540 4 жыл бұрын
Clever stuff. You can see what Tesla did on the Model Y. The tooling for the headliner isn't cheap, but it saves times on the line, and they can amortize the cost of the machine over many millions of cars, and new models too. Ends up cheaper than the old way of doing it. It is very clear from Sandy's comments that other OEMs aren't innovating anything like Tesla are. Impressive stuff.
@Rokalno
@Rokalno 4 жыл бұрын
We cannot compare how good/well/cheap the MY is because we don't know how Toyota, Honda, Kia, BMW, AUDI, Mercedes build their similary priced cars
@polycrystallinecandy
@polycrystallinecandy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rokalno we don't know, but Sandy knows
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 4 жыл бұрын
"It is very clear from Sandy's comments that other OEMs aren't innovating anything like Tesla are" - Actually no, that's literally the opposite of what he's saying. Everything Tesla is starting to do now, other manufacturers have been doing for years, that's the WHOLE POINT of these videos, to show how terrible the way Tesla has been doing things so far in previous models, and that ONLY NOW they're starting to do things up to industry standards. They're not innovating, they're copying and catching up. It blows my mind how people can be as clueless as you and jump to these "omg innovation" conclusions. Stop freaking glorifying Tesla so much, especially for all the wrong reasons...it's ridiculous. You people are taking the term "sheeple" to a whole new level. The Y interior is still one of the cheapest and bare interiors on the market, both to produce, and to touch, feel, etc. FACT. It's nowhere near the level of complexity of pretty much any other car on the market, ESPECIALLY for this price. FACT. Take apart an interior of a European 60-70k car, and it will make the Y interior laughable in comparison, literally LAUGHABLE. It's nothing but cheap plastics and the most simple and basic shapes, end of. Nothing innovative at all, literally, at all. Not a single thing on this car is an innovation or something absolutely new not found on other vehicles. Not to mention that Tesla's engineers are ALL old employees of other car companies, so naturally they'd use similar solutions. You wanna see innovation? Go see what Polestar is doing. They're 20 years ahead of Tesla, ACTUALLY doing amazingly innovative things nobody else has done, developing completely new materials, completely new ways to build parts that are 100% natural and bio friendly, made out of recycled materials or plants, LIGHTER AND STRONGER than plastic parts, and also look luxurious as well. What Tesla is doing is a joke in comparison to pretty much any serious car brand out there. They're designing cars to be as cheap to produce in mass numbers as possible, without much care for quality.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 4 жыл бұрын
@@derbigpr500 Did you actually watch the video? How many times has he said during the entire series, "never seen before", not done by any one else and I like it", etc etc. You also say that the Mode Y's interior are cheap. Where did you have a chance to see and feel the interior? Not many of them around in the US yet. And why are you using European cars as a measure? This is an American performance vehicle and should be compared to other American vehicles.
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 4 жыл бұрын
stop talking nonsense moron what is special about the TESLA here, wtf , for the best build quality dont even count tesla its not worth it, my uncle still drives his very old 1986 mercedes and the interior is in imaculate condition
@TheSOHO92
@TheSOHO92 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Sandy! Hitting the ground running with that opening comment! Though I'm no engineer, I think your ability to describe the manufacturing process to the layperson amazing. That and I feel your enthusiasm for what you do is infectious! It sparks the same kind of curiosity in the constructed world around us as the way things works books! Admittedly with fewer tiny mammoths.
@fotowala1
@fotowala1 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, thanks for sharing and knowledge and expertise.
@jasonwidegren
@jasonwidegren 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy Munro is turning into a total KZbin rockstar.
@stefanherzberg1630
@stefanherzberg1630 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see these teardown videos and happy that it's good for Munro business.
@TagmakersCoUk
@TagmakersCoUk 4 жыл бұрын
Head over to Munro Live shop and support Sandy and the team. A few dollars is small beer for this marvellous insight into not only what goes into the Model-Y, but fantastic lessons in how car design happens, and how experts keep manufacturing industries on their toes. My very best wishes to you Sandy... you are a real gem.
@Clark-Mills
@Clark-Mills 4 жыл бұрын
Man, what a nice guy! A role-model.
@delpholo
@delpholo 4 жыл бұрын
I really do like all the knowledge and the informations you are sharing with all of us. Can't wait to see your next episode, it's kind of addictive!
@Capthrax1
@Capthrax1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that they're focusing on noise and vibration dampening. Without a engine noise intend to hear the road sounds a lot more.
@seanz6586
@seanz6586 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode once again and really great camera work! Smooth and informative.
@janholland2224
@janholland2224 4 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoying these lectures. Great to see you (finally) have your own channel. Would appreciate tear-down comments on the recyclability of stuff since that will become more important. Well it already is given the microplastics problem .... Apple's Liam was kind of an engineering landmark in circularity/remanufacturing. Cheers from lockdowned Holland!
@DxsPro
@DxsPro 4 жыл бұрын
8:46 i think the yellow around the wiring is where the wiring should go in each clip.. to either protect the wiring or to ensure a snug fit.. looks like they didnt align it properly for both clips
@teslaxyz4660
@teslaxyz4660 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. Do another Q&A with Third Row once the Y project is done Sandy.
@butchbailey8565
@butchbailey8565 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy You are a ROCK STAR., U Tube and Sandy were made for each other. Great Public Service Tip The Cashier. Staples copy employee was blown away after $11 visa charge for him downloading from my phone and making colour copies. I said by the way Sandy MUNROE insists I tip You too and gave him $5 cash. So he was blown away when I explained to him what Your program was all about. THE BEST PART ,I FELT REALLY GREAT TOO.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool story, Butch, thanks for sharing and thanks for tuning in!
@SolvingTheMoneyProblem
@SolvingTheMoneyProblem 4 жыл бұрын
"The Model Y is so different from everybody else's. There's no comparison."
@anonymoususer3561
@anonymoususer3561 4 жыл бұрын
This matters
@dannycorell6694
@dannycorell6694 4 жыл бұрын
Zaw T Hahahaha
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, take a sentence out of context to feed your Tesla fanboy delusions. Hilarious. The interior of this car is still one of the worst and cheapest built on the market, regardless of car cost. It's actually disgracefully bad compared to other cars of similar price.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 4 жыл бұрын
@@derbigpr500 What car do you drive that you are comparing to this one?
@rkan2
@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean Tesla is giving most value for the least amount of cost though ;)
@dealerovski82
@dealerovski82 4 жыл бұрын
I like grab handlers as a passenger, feels good to hold on to something instead of having my hands rest freely on my knee.
@robertchisholm8823
@robertchisholm8823 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks sandy enjoy watching these videos in lockdown all the way from New Zealand.
@wstoettinger
@wstoettinger 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy, please hand sign the parts you are selling! I will buy a piece just for display! 🥰😍
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Every part that we sell will be signed by Sandy, and we'll send you a personalized video of him signing it and addressing it to you! Check out this link: munrolive.com/support-%2F-store Thanks for tuning in!
@jedidjakor
@jedidjakor 4 жыл бұрын
Great job, Sandy and team. Thank you for sharing.
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 4 жыл бұрын
That podcast was great. Please keep up the effort!
@kermss
@kermss 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Sandy! You guys are rockstars. Thanks for the amazing content once again. Can’t wait for the next one.
@bobrichards6696
@bobrichards6696 4 жыл бұрын
Love your work Sandy, stay safe 😷👍
@sageakporherhe783
@sageakporherhe783 4 жыл бұрын
that sun visor magnet is 👌 I always struggle to put mine back when driving.
@RockitFX1
@RockitFX1 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you making these videos, so interesting!
@csongor48
@csongor48 4 жыл бұрын
Great work, sandy thank you for providing these videos for us!
@Martinsp16
@Martinsp16 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great look under the hood so da speak :D
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 4 жыл бұрын
The magnet instead of a snap is great. Have had more than one car where a snap no longer holds the sun visor in place after a while...
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 4 жыл бұрын
same will happen with magnets as they loose their force over time especially with the heat/cold cycles the go through in a car.
@europeanweb
@europeanweb 4 жыл бұрын
They actually use magnets in the model x as well, pretty good system.
@accountname1651
@accountname1651 4 жыл бұрын
and pretty expensive one; magnets 🧲 aren’t cheap - are you willing to pay more for such a feature?
@europeanweb
@europeanweb 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Andy With all the magnets that goes into the cars motors / doors and other accessories I don't think that the price of the sun visor has any effect on the overall price. Secondly the model x windshield is huge and it has an completely different visor system. But yes I am willing to pay for stuff that works well.
@accountname1651
@accountname1651 4 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Christensen I may have put it the wrong way 1st in automotive business every cent matters 2nd would you pay more for the MY with the magnet solution or the M3 version? How much do you think is it with for you?
@Darenjanes
@Darenjanes 4 жыл бұрын
Sandy, you and your folks there at Munro are putting the rest of the youtubers to shame with your fantastic content and knowledge. I'm not sure what your end game is, but Tesla would be will advised to hire you folks as a critical external QA shop. Good luck and stay safe.
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
No need for Tesla to hire them. They're more useful as a highly objective, 3rd party QA team. If they were in-house, they could get (potentially) absorbed by politics and some of their criticisms might get blunted.
@Darenjanes
@Darenjanes 4 жыл бұрын
Colin Fox Agree, it’s a fine line. But they do need to stay in business somehow.
@MrCarCrazy
@MrCarCrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Loving this series!!!
@stano49
@stano49 4 жыл бұрын
I completely changed my mind about Munro after watching your videos of the Model Y tear down. Your analysis is fair and unbiased. I’m a 3 owner and I admit to being a lot defensive of criticism of my car, but I see now I was wrong. Thank you very much for sharing what you learned. And most of all, thank you for being a really decent human being. I’m a fan....now.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, Stan! We appreciate you sharing your time with us, and we really do make an effort to be as objective and unbiased as possible. Thanks for tuning in!
@DeerKoden
@DeerKoden 4 жыл бұрын
It's good that the Y has been designed with a lot of improvements in mind, i would hope - ideally - to have the same improvements being used within the Model 3 production from now on.
@catrabbit4996
@catrabbit4996 4 жыл бұрын
DeerKoden Theoretically, 70% of the Model 3 is improving in lock-step with the Model Y given all the shared parts!
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 4 жыл бұрын
That dremel-cut looks like an adaptation due to a defective part or shortfall of a specific part.
@MarkFunderburk
@MarkFunderburk 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it looks like either the wires in the harness that went up to the B pillar were too short or the plastic part didn't extend far enough back.
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 4 жыл бұрын
a dremel shouldnt even be part of a assembly floors tool set, if you need a dremel during assembly that means your parts are not good and you should not use them.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pixelplanet5 I don't see the harm in this. It's not a "pretty" solution, but it seems perfectly effective. It's not going to produce a problematic vehicle. I'd much rather see them get vehicles out there and get real-world data than sit around letting trivial things like this hold them up. All manufacturing lines generally have some sort of issues early in production. There's a reason why you'll often encounter advice to not buy cars in their first X months / years of production - for any brand. But this sort of thing should be harmless.
@MarkFunderburk
@MarkFunderburk 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pixelplanet5 if it's between delivering a car today or waiting 3 weeks for the new mold to be made and production and logistics to get the new part. Or cutting off a bit of plastic that will probably never materially affect the customer. It's a pretty clear choice to me.
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 4 жыл бұрын
@@karenrobertsdottir4101 this could very well become a problematic vehicle as we can see here the cables run very close to the cut of edges and since they are not held in place by the cable channel they can easily rub against the sharp corners and get damaged.
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 4 жыл бұрын
Your point about doing work consistently is very crucial for quality control. Some people might miss this small but important point to achieving great quality in products. That’s another sign that you are a true quality enlightened man.
@seb.
@seb. 4 жыл бұрын
didn't ModelX already use magnets for sunvisors?
@KaceyGreen
@KaceyGreen 4 жыл бұрын
yes, but a different style those were on the end and held it more firm in vertical or horizontal positions, but this replaces the hook catch most visors use
@DerKatzeSonne
@DerKatzeSonne 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, but still very different. This one is more conventional and still probably more practical. Definitely very cool!
@smithtimothy93
@smithtimothy93 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome. Thanks a ton.
@HH-ph3gq
@HH-ph3gq 4 жыл бұрын
Omg this is so good, you can learn a lot from this
@EvrSpd
@EvrSpd 4 жыл бұрын
I rigged my landrovers sun visors to work with magnets years ago, because the original snappy things failed 😒
@regulatorct
@regulatorct 4 жыл бұрын
love this series
@MarcGXE95
@MarcGXE95 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice if the aluminum has chemical conversion ( Alodin) as we use in aviation?
@rohscx
@rohscx 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Munro
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
That's "Mr" Munro to you.
@rohscx
@rohscx 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Starkey fair- correction accepted.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
No Mister needed, we appreciate the support. Thanks for tuning in!
@Dr.Know_4U
@Dr.Know_4U 4 жыл бұрын
Wire harnesses laid out perfectly in CAD are always too short. That is why they missed the cover opening. Seen it a million times in aircraft. Splines lack the physical attributes of an actual wire harness.
@rkan2
@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын
So a bunch of noobs then? :P
@Dr.Know_4U
@Dr.Know_4U 4 жыл бұрын
rkan2 noobs is Right. Typical of fresh new engineers.
@greggmcclelland8430
@greggmcclelland8430 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Know_4U Lack of fit up prior to production. The injection molded wireguide has 6-8 weeks of lead time so pre production ramp-up parts are stuck with modified first run wire guides. When the tooling gets updated, you will see this problem cleared up. Its not really a big deal. I didn't see any wires that would rub on sharp edges.
@Dr.Know_4U
@Dr.Know_4U 4 жыл бұрын
Gregg McClelland virtual fit up using CAD is very popular.
@accountname1651
@accountname1651 4 жыл бұрын
isn‘t Tesla prebuilding some prototypes to find 99% of problems which can occur in series production instead of using early customers as beta testers?
@Kuriente
@Kuriente 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, as always.
@sonekulla
@sonekulla 4 жыл бұрын
FYI Sandy, my 2016 Model X sun visors uses 2 magnets, one in the stow-away position above the door and another at the extended position near the rear view mirror.
@starwarsman2709
@starwarsman2709 4 жыл бұрын
Hook and snap is great for anything from alerting to parts a slide and lock in place or like plastic ribbots that uses screwdriver as pry bar to snap off to take part off or put on
@matthewabogado2834
@matthewabogado2834 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. Many Thanks 🙏
@Reason077
@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын
Only the early build premium Model 3s had the Alcantara headliner. They'd swapped it to cloth headliner in all Model 3s by early 2018.
@TranelHawkins
@TranelHawkins 4 жыл бұрын
I convinced Tesla is way ahead of the competition as a thought process, and we are starting to see that thought process influence there design.
@glenncordova4027
@glenncordova4027 4 жыл бұрын
I love to see thoughtful improvements even if they are small.
@hansqprz
@hansqprz 4 жыл бұрын
My 2020 model 3 als has the magnet sunvisor clip...
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! We tore down an early production Model 3 several years ago. Good to see they are making plenty of changes across the board. Thanks for tuning in!
@hansqprz
@hansqprz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive I must correct myself... I just checked and in my model 3, there is a mechanical clip. The action is so smooth I concluded it was magnetic just as the console lids. I am sorry if I caused any confusion over this! :(
@lewisrainwater9527
@lewisrainwater9527 4 жыл бұрын
@9:00 it's possible they went over the wrong side of the fastener. The tape is to possibly to reduce the rattle since the clips are spaced far away from each other. More clips would make more difficult injection molding.
@lespukh
@lespukh 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Sandy!
@burntchickennugget191
@burntchickennugget191 4 жыл бұрын
Please enable ads. It will help. I dont mind watchin a ten second ad. I think you might wanna talk with richie builds. He takes teslas apart and fixes broken ones. You and him might wanna chat about his car. He is interesting..
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
We just got approved for monetization today, so you should start to see ads moving forward. Never thought we'd hear people asking for ads, but we very much appreciate your willingness to support with your valuable time! Thanks for tuning in!
@markbullock3741
@markbullock3741 4 жыл бұрын
Grab handles are for those that due to age or other infirmities have trouble entering or exiting a vehicle. The Model Y is the first vehicle that Tesla has made that has a seat height that makes it possible for the above mentioned drivers/passengers to use.
@johnc_canada
@johnc_canada 4 жыл бұрын
I've really been enjoying this series of videos, thanks for making them! Why don't you set up a Patreon account? I'm sure tons of fans would support and it's a lot less hassle than shipping heavy disassembled car parts worldwide!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John! We actually do have a Patreon account and we'd love to have you join! We're over 200 strong at this point and growing every day :) Patreon.com/MunroLive Thanks for tuning in!
@fettmaneiii4439
@fettmaneiii4439 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed! Cuz i geek out on this and for other reasons.
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 4 жыл бұрын
That B post wiring issue on both sides looks like an error during the wiring loom manufacturer. Probably happened too late to stop car production and they did a line fix. It’s unlikely to be a problem and unlikely to be there on many cars.
@rlaxton666
@rlaxton666 4 жыл бұрын
The sides of the mouldings for the centre console on my Model 3, where the trims attach, look like they were hand trimmed as well. Quite weird.
@CFG39
@CFG39 4 жыл бұрын
They ditched the suede/alcantara early in the Model 3 production. I’d really like you all to get a 2020 build Model 3 to see how much has changed/improved since the early-production Model 3 you tore apart.
@readeraway3393
@readeraway3393 4 жыл бұрын
Try covering your analysis board with a sheet before filming. Less time blurring out sensitive data in post production = video ready for upload sooner. Or turn it to face the wall. Or tape a fake version over the real one as an easter egg.
@FootballBello
@FootballBello 4 жыл бұрын
great video series!
@christianb8852
@christianb8852 4 жыл бұрын
"Guys on the floor sometimes hate them and sometimes loathe them" 😂
@DDG82IDC
@DDG82IDC 4 жыл бұрын
1. The magnet does not hold the visor well when pushing back in place - the Model 3 version fits, holds, and worked well. 2. The headliner in my Model Y is stained with grease like material. Was able to wipe other dirt marks on most but the "grease" stain will not come off. Now since the headliner is one piece, Tesla has it bbn on order to replace the whole thing, would have been better if maybe the headliner came in 2 piece forward and rear half. There is a seam for the cloth covering anyway - where they could have made the junction if the headliner is made into 2 halves. Thanks for the detailed info vlog! Keep it up SM.
@DeerKoden
@DeerKoden 4 жыл бұрын
ive seen some pics of stained headliners on Reddit, my bet is that they might have had some trouble fitting the headliner and it might've been layed against either tooling or on the ground
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 4 жыл бұрын
6:33 But it is made up of two pieces
@chstra45
@chstra45 4 жыл бұрын
Y headliner is 2 piece. Your "grease stain" is most likely urethane from roof glass.
@DDG82IDC
@DDG82IDC 4 жыл бұрын
@@2nd3rd1st , u are correct it's 2 piece - i missed that part. Lol.
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 4 жыл бұрын
8:21 That wiring has the beige-colored reinforcements that help reduce chafing & also to help hold the wiring in the clips. Not only they didn't install it correctly, IMHO, but the tape was also an afterthought to "fix" it.
@Martinsp16
@Martinsp16 4 жыл бұрын
amazing
@catman1353
@catman1353 4 жыл бұрын
Who else loves Munro? :)
@rhamph
@rhamph 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the wire that missed the clip, I bet it was getting pinched and the solution was to skip that clip and use the tape instead.
@MonsterSound.Bradley
@MonsterSound.Bradley 4 жыл бұрын
I hope somebody wealthy buys your stuff for big $$$$$. We need your expert advise. ThX Sandy. 🏆😎👍
@Basten133
@Basten133 4 жыл бұрын
Hi from Italy ! I saw more than 15 video in your channel. My sugestion for you is try to show not only pieces already dismounted but for my opinion dismount And teach how to dismount and discover Whit us any Pieces form Tesla
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like there's very little that's "difficult" to remove.
@rkan2
@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't a car repair channel. There are plenty of channels around which have nice videos about installing / removing car parts. I lile the current format, though I would watch an even longer version with more detailed looks at all the parts.. (Sandy was hinting it was coming though?)
@Basten133
@Basten133 4 жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 thanks my idea was was differe t one way to make the video different not for repair but for diascover togheter how is made the car.
@dangerL7e
@dangerL7e 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they keep blurring on the walls?..
@Fruchtig78
@Fruchtig78 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Thanks a lot! :-)
@mrseanpaul81
@mrseanpaul81 4 жыл бұрын
I would be very excited to see another model Y teardown in about a year or so (I am waiting for next year to buy one as they work out the early production kinks). I was also disappointed over the reduction in wiring not happening yet and the 12 volt battery still present :(
@quantaca5773
@quantaca5773 4 жыл бұрын
Changing that much would make a new production hell more likely. This way they can ramp fairly quick
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