Modeling a Realistic HO (1/87) Scale Rail Car Ferry Deck (Part 1) | Boomer Diorama ~ # 277

[@keithludowitz9637]

So a couple of years aago you were burying track with sheet balsa, (edge sanded to ride over sleepers), coated with urethane and Golden fine grit. You especially liked the way it painted. Has your preference changed over time? Or is it to do with the exact situation? Has your painting technique changed? Love all your videos and great instructional technique!

[@boomerdiorama]

Great questions. As you stated, I think particular situations require different approaches. The modeler has to decide based on their past experiences moving forward. This method is very similar. However, I chose it because I want a finer resolution to the texture since I will be looking at it longer when cars are loaded and off-loaded. Furthermore, it's a layout component, but also a stand-alone model as well. ;-)

[@keithludowitz9637]

@@boomerdiorama Thanks. Of course, adapt to the situation, as you always state. Noted: Liquitex acrylic medium Natural Sand can be sanded to create a fine H0 'asphalt' finish .Looking forward to your painting video of these elements.

[@randydobson1863]

Hi Boomer Diorama & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Boomer Diorama & Friends Randy

[@boomerdiorama]

Cheers!

[@SouthBrooklynRR]

It is nice to know that the human element is not lost and perfection is not the goal, but realism is.

[@boomerdiorama]

I guess the hobby overall is a type of escape from reality with each person having their own version. ;-)

[@PeterTillman3]

You are the Master Boomer. No one explains these techniques as carefully and completely as you. Thank you, thank you and thank you!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you Peter!

[@jean-lucgiorgetta9785]

Beautiful job!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you!😁

[@allenshirley1077]

That was 37 minutes well spent - thank you!

[@boomerdiorama]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pierrecoiffeur739]

What an amazing job!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you!

[@vincenthuying98]

Dear Boomer, never had the chance yet to see the Carrier Princess up close. From the photos you’ve shown the deck looks pretty similar to the former rail ferries between Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Germany. Only some of those carried a true steel deck with embedded rails. The deck then formed out of tread plate. The ‘Halsingborg’ ferry is a great example of this way of decking. Most ferries servicing between Rødbyhavn and Puttgarden, Helsingborg and Helsingor, Kristiansand and Hirsthals seem to have a coated deck. Those ferry services offer(ed) similar service to both rail and road transport, as well as individual cars. Saw several of these ferries over time, and your version of the anti slip coating on the deck fits the bill. Never saw asphalt used this way. Might just get too runny on real warm days. The epoxy coatings you mentioned were designed to withstand a similar contraction and expansion as the steel they have to protect. Back to tread plate, the examples I’ve seen all had removable sections. Can only guess on the dirt and grime that will accumulate in between the ship’s true deck and the ‘rolling’ deck at the level of the rail heads. Think that way of constructing requires a lot more maintenance than the coated version. When I visited the Industrial Museum in Essen some years ago, I was surprised by the excellent display of track manufacturing they got there. Fyi it used to be a railroad track manufacturing plant in its former life. There also was a display of different types of track and their cross sections. The ferry track actually has a much lower profile than normal track. Plus, comes with an attached flange, just like streetcar car track. That kind of track may be very hard to model in HO scale, but I do think you’re absolutely on point, with the way you model the embedded track. Absolutely awesome vid. Cheerio

[@boomerdiorama]

Things are done differently here than Europe. A local guy working for Seapan told me it was skimmed with asphalt. Asphalt does not melt like you claim - not on the salt chuck Pacific Northwest. Another friend told me he backed up his cement mixer and poured four inches of cement on a rail barge as well. They must do it different here on the West Coast. Cheers. 😁

[@royreynolds108]

@@boomerdiorama What we are calling asphalt is actually called asphalt pavement, asphalt concrete, or a flexible pavement in the trade. It is not pure asphalt but an asphalt granular stone/sand mixture heated over 200* F and applied before it cools to less than 180* F. To install it, a heated oil is sprayed over the surface to be covered. Then the asphalt mixture is spread by a machine to a determined thickness. Then the asphalt mixture is compressed or compacted by rollers until the desired compaction is obtained. This is the method used on roadways and parking lots; and also for paving over concrete or brick streets so it would be appropriate to do a deck on a ferry. It does not weigh as much per yard as regular concrete.

[@DRCRailroard]

Great content, Boomer. I won't be building a ferry with buried rails, but it's great to see all the challenges that would be encountered when dealing with something like this in the real world. It doesn't seem like asphalt or concrete would be stable enough to use on a flexing ship deck, but driving trains on and off a ship deck doesn't either. Mans ingenuity and determination to overcome the many obstacles put before him to overcome nature is a marvel of engineering. Sometimes engineering seems to borderline on the edge of reckless abandonment to overcome the obstacles of his environment put before him. Your layout is a good reflection of this phenomena with every aspect of the entire barge scene it takes to pull something like this off without fail, all in a days work.

[@boomerdiorama]

The transportation of dangerous goods always intrigued me as well. I used to do it, so I take it for granted. ;-)

[@DRCRailroard]

@@boomerdiorama That's an interesting observation. I was an electrician with 46 years of experience in the trade. While I respected working on energized 480 volt systems, I never really thought about the dangers associated with the job because I was so focused on the task at hand. I've tapped live bus bars in switch gear before the days of PPE, apparently when our life was expendable. It was just part of the job description. We even had a saying. " There are old electricians and there are bold electricians. There are no old bold electricians 😟.

[@railscanner]

So much to learn so little time. Your modeling diligence just adds to the high level of excellence you achieve day in and day out! Thanks for sharing with the rest of us.

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you for inspiring me with your compliments. Cheers ~ Boomer.

[@bluefj-wc3vz]

That weathering blows my mind lol 🤘

[@boomerdiorama]

Lol . . . the stars were in alignment that day . . . lol. '-)

[@davidcurtis5398]

In some clubs I have been in we have used rack to make the flange ways. We lay the track inside the standard track, glue it in, and then poor something like plaster in the middle. This works fine but I like your way better and will use it in the new and final road I am getting ready to start.

[@boomerdiorama]

Sounds good. I think the "buried track" method depends much on the scale and size of the layout as well. I like this method because I can do a little bit at a time and control the outcome more. Cheers.

[@deanrowland2210]

Thank you Boomer for sharing, I always learn something every time I watch one of your videos! Cheers!

[@boomerdiorama]

Very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to share and watch! ~ Boomer.

[@shaunhuckstepp7531]

Hi Boomer the car ferry deck is coming on nicely , I'm starting to get withdrawal from not doing any modeling for the last 2 months . I have visions of endless cartons to pack and constantly refilling tape guns LOL anyway the big move is tomorrow . Looking forward to building the new Diorama going over some of your older vlogs. Thanks Boomer

[@boomerdiorama]

I know the feeling. ;-)

[@michaelimpey1407]

Boomer, great video, and thank you for the master tips. You have taught me that the right material for the job in hand is very important, and I now have a "supply" of the various Golden and Liquidex finishes, and mediums, and they make a huge different to the final effect. I will now have to try the double and triple effect. The deck is looking awesome, and the "sneek peaks" everty now and again really look great. Thank you for sharing, and really looking forward to the painting / finishing video. Cheers, and stay safe, Michael

[@boomerdiorama]

Just a tip. Make sure you wipe the top of the rim with a damp rag before sealing them up. It helps the shelf life more and stops things from going crusty on the edges when you don't use it for awhile.

[@michaelimpey1407]

@@boomerdiorama thanks for the tip.

[@jesselomas8626]

Brings back memories of painting a 'sweeper deck back in '85 damn it, 😂😂😂..

[@boomerdiorama]

Awesome!

[@bradleysmith2021]

I have a photograph of a blueprint from the Northern Pacific’s Como Shops in St. Paul that shows how they made their pavement embedded tracks. They took a used rail of the same size and laid in on it’s side with the head up against the inside of the primary rail with spacers between the ties and the foot of the used rail to put the other (top) side of the foot flush with the primary. Then laid rebar and poured concrete between the two used rails. Might be interesting to try. Love the videos!

[@boomerdiorama]

I know someone who told me they actually poured cement, four inches thick, on a barge like you described. Thanks for sharing. 😁👍

[@UnionPacificNorthwest]

I wasn’t aware of these mediums! Thank you so much for the valuable content boom!

[@boomerdiorama]

You're so welcome!

[@royreynolds108]

I have moved several times so I can't find the magazines( RAILWAY TRACK & STRUCTURES) I would like to refer to, as usual. I remember in the late 1950s, '60s, and '70s there were some ads for 2 systems of easy-to-use flangeways for railroad tracks. One used steel bars in chairs set a distance from the rail head to provide the necessary flangeway. The other used an angle with supports to create the flangeway from the web of the rail out and up almost even with the top of the head of the rail. I got out of the industry in the early 1990s so I don't know what is available now. Your method is almost exactly like the bars on chairs.

[@boomerdiorama]

There are several ways to do this for sure. You can use rail on it's side as well if you plan to hand lay the track. This method works good for flex track.

[@bobhastings6464]

Hey Boomer Just got through watching the video. That is some top drawer modelling I must say. Great work! Cheers Bob

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you kindly Bob! Cheers. ;-)

[@williamdickman7917]

Boy....that deck looks phenomenal, Boom!😮

[@boomerdiorama]

I think I was a little lucky with it. But , yes, thank you!

[@WHJeffB]

Pretty damn outstanding Boomer!! Some great techniques and material there... Thanks for sharing!

[@boomerdiorama]

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing. ;-)

[@harperlarry49]

No words.... I got none. So many great tips and techniques. Now I have several more products that I need to buy and that will be extremely useful going forward with my layout. Thank you sir, so very much!! Cheers - Larry.

[@boomerdiorama]

It helps to wipe the rim clean with a damp cloth when closing the lid if you plan to extend the shelf life of these acrylic products. ;-)

[@Torsionv6]

Simply genius, thanks boomer.

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you kindly!

[@jonnybeck6723]

I don't even have any trains of my own these daze (Except for a collection of "Thomas"es from 1 inch to one foot...) and yet I'm still so entertained by your vids (!) Cheerios, Boomer (and companion w/ them great ears)

[@boomerdiorama]

Thomas Train - Awesome. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. It's people like you who make channels like this successful! Cheers ~ Boomer.

[@southernwulf3335]

I've seen some of these old ferries with asphalt decking to so I'm sure thats what it is. Most modern ones in Galveston Texas use concrete

[@boomerdiorama]

I have a friend who just told me that he backed up a cement mixer and poured four inches of concrete onto a rail barge. As you say, it's a common method because it's a whole lot cheaper than steel. ;-)

[@ironwolfusa]

Your attention to detail is amazing! The ferry looks SO real. I'm constantly learning new things from your knowledge. Keep up the great work, Boomer!

[@boomerdiorama]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@rwissbaum9849]

I like your advice about figure it out as you go. I have found that as I'm working on the (sometimes tedious!) task at hand, my mind is thinking ahead to the next steps and clarifying my path forward.

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Bunyip_Studios]

Another great educational and entertaining video. The painted deck looks fantastic! Now I'm all caught up with the River Road Vlogs!!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks for showing interest. About three years ago an early subscriber recommended I archive the whole layout build. I have no idea when it will be done so it should go on indefinitely for now. Cheers.! 😁

[@Bunyip_Studios]

Well I'm so glad you decided to do so. It's been fascinating, interesting and educational in equal measure, I came here for the scenery and stayed for everything else! 😂 Dunno if it's because we're the same age (weren't born in April were you? lol) or just the era we grew up in, but every subject you present is easy to follow and understand. I don't think I've watched a video yet and said, "No way I could do that!". Along with the side stories, that quite often bring a chuckle, like leaving your brother in the basement with the train layout, so thank you for sharing your hobby, and stories with us.

[@MRR_Shadowolf]

Another outstanding video! Learned a few new tricks as well.

[@boomerdiorama]

Great to hear! Thank you for being such a reliable subscriber. You never seem to fail when it comes to giving words of encouragement. Cheers ~ Boomer.

[@johnkelley4874]

Looking fantastic Boomer Wow! What an awesome build series!!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks a bunch!

[@nunya_business1702]

Incredible

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you! I hope it inspires!

[@555metroman]

Really nice.. thanks. I am doing a parking area to a building and I think I will skip the Smooth-it and try the paste. Yours looks great. Thanks for your work and inspiration.

[@boomerdiorama]

Try a thin layer first on a small area before you commit. Get the feel of it first.

[@lovetolay]

The ferry looks amazing, , great work boomer

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks 👍

[@johnboughton7451]

It’s worth mentioning that for some unknown reason KZbin have unsubscribed me from your channel so I had to re-subscribe to both channels on my phone and on my TV so it may be worth asking your other viewers to check their subscriptions to make sure that they haven’t been unsubscribed like I was anyway, buddy thank you so much for all your hard work and endeavours. I really enjoy your channel and your content

[@boomerdiorama]

Sorry to hear that. There are things about KZbin I don't think I'll ever understand. It probably helps to bookmark the channel as well. Cheers.

[@allenlandis4504]

Excellent. Boy O Boy did I learn a lot of in this video.

[@boomerdiorama]

Me too . . . lol. I always learn something new when I try different approaches to the same thing. ;-)

[@jonpowell-ov3yh]

Looking good. Really enjoy the weekly insights and advice. Seems like I learn a few things from each video (and I've been at it for about as many years as you!). Always great to experience those "Oh, that's a different /cool way to do it" moments (or have I just forgotten a few things as I've become an old fart?!?)... 😹

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you. I like to try things differently as well. Keeps up the interest. ;-)

[@pgronemeier]

You always make me thirsty when you mention IPA. 🤣Cheers 🍻

[@boomerdiorama]

😁

[@mrtrek2117]

I got recommended to you channel by one of my Patrons. Love your work! I'm the guy building the entire interior of the original Starship Enterprise in 1:25 scale and will definitely be using some of your tips! Let me know if you are interested in a collaboration between our channels.

[@boomerdiorama]

Awesome, thank you!

[@marklewis298]

WOW....Just WOW!!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you!

[@generalsb6332]

Hi Boomer. Great production as always. A couple things. I’m working on a diorama and used basswood as a base for a county road. It’s what I had available. You use balsa as a base and to pack some things out. Is there a difference that’s appreciable between the 2? I love your advice on layers. I skim coated the wood with Golden molding paste. When I got it to where I wanted it I did wet on wet acrylic variations of gray and then skim coated Golden fine pumice over that followed with more wet on wet gray variations. I love the depth it has produced to this point. Not quite finished with the roadway yet but really like the effect so far. Thank you for lighting a fire to try things I never did before. Cheers

[@boomerdiorama]

Basswood will probably be more stable than balsa wood if it's glued down well. I only use balsa wood because it is lighter and easier to cut - and I have so much of it on hand. You are going about it in the right way if you are building up layers as you describe. This is how you learn this stuff. The same technique is used to water effects as well. I just did another thin skim coat of GAC 500 over my water. I worked small areas at a time by stippling the wet GAC 500 with a large bristle brush and it looks awesome. You can feather in the next later or area, and you won't see the seam either! It goes on "milky" in color but dries in a few days to crystal clear water with fantastic reflective qualities to it. Cheers. ~ Boomer.

[@generalsb6332]

@@boomerdiorama hi Boomer. Thanks for the tips and encouragement. This 1x2 diorama is a test bed to getting back in the hobby. Consisting of a main line, a transload segment of track parallel to it towards the back. The main is on a fill that will have water on the front edge. It’ll be a little compact but that’s ok. I plan to tackle my first scratchbuild creating a small office, also a small loading dock. I’ll dip into electronics with a working crossing signal and a track signal and other lighting effects. All new skills to learn. Taking it slow. One last question. I’m wanting to do clumps of pinch and stab 12mm grass along the waterline for tall reeds or cattails. Better before or after or even during the GAC 500 application? Have a great week. Thanks again for all that you do.

[@sparabo3780]

Great work and interesting products. Because my next project is buried tramway track in n scale, any tips, tricks and advices are greatly appreciated. I’m curious which of your tips work out for me. Your painting tips for tar / asphalt did great.

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you.😁

[@goforitpainting]

Awesome

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you!

[@specterman]

Thanks!

[@boomerdiorama]

Awesome! Thank you! Cheers ~ Boomer.

[@donhanley1213]

Just speculating here, but thinking about how we built a highway bridge, there was a heavy courgated deck material placed over the bridge beams, which became the bottom form . The material was 6" x 6" rectangular courgation. It wouldn't be difficult to imagine having a similar system to form the deck on a ship or ferry, but instead of concrete, the surface material is asphalt because of its flexibility.

[@boomerdiorama]

Good points. I can only share my opinion based on eyewitness testimony and photographs, as I never set foot on her. However, I was told by a Seaspan "Tug Boat" deckhand that the decks for rail and truck carriers with Seaspan are asphalt layer over steel due to the flexibility and no-slip qualities. On the other hand, he said they use a type of epoxy paint and sand to paint the Tug Boat decks.

[@nomo69ss25]

I hope and pray for the folks living along the Fraiser River, hope the real River Road is ok!🙏🏻🙏🏻🫡✌️

[@boomerdiorama]

The "Mighty" Fraser isn't called Mighty for nothing. She can handle it. ;-)

[@thomasdecker7631]

Very well done, although my car float from an earlier era will probably use some other material- wood? not sure. As a side note, ships deteriorate much more quickly on salt water. The Carrier Princess was retired at what would be regarded as a fairly young age on fresh water. In comparison, the SS Badger, built for the C&O in 1947, is still active as an auto and truck ferry on Lake Michigan.

[@boomerdiorama]

Yes. You are correct. It seems like a short career. The Carrier Princess ran in salt and fresh water when she would transit the Fraser River from Howe Sound. Although, all the steel ferry boats built in the 1970's have been retired except for a few B.C. Ferries ships. Even then, they are getting to the bitter end as well.

[@PeterTillman3]

Thanks

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you Peter! You are awesome. Thank you for supporting the channel the way you do. God Bless you. ~ Boomer.

[@PeterTillman3]

@@boomerdiorama my pleasure Boomer

[@iqbal_pradana]

as a kid back then, I really amazed by deep embedded rail track at old crossing, how come the big heavy train not derailed when rolling on it, turnouts the flange of real size train is very shallow compared to my toy train

[@boomerdiorama]

Wheel flanges on real trains are remarkably small.

[@briankistenmacher]

Boomer, did you you use CA to attach the flex track to the wooden deck?

[@boomerdiorama]

Yes. You only need to clamp with CA every few inches. The acrylic paste will hold it all down for good.

[@jonnybeck6723]

@1:23, I don't mean to 'barge' in (yes I did) but, this is fricking amazing!!! ...wait a minute, (Now which one is real and which is memorex? ...I lost 'track') ...somebody stop me

[@boomerdiorama]

Lol . . . Thank you!😁👍✌

[@jonnybeck6723]

@@boomerdiorama Hey-oh Mr. Boomer, your art never gets old...

[@BrockvilleRailfan]

I love that mossy flat car in the opening shot. I posted a photo I took at the Nanaimo yards September 2nd in my post this morning on my channel of another very mossy SRY flat car that may interest you. I'm assuming the moss is some fine Woodland Scenics ground foam? Do you skin you flat car decks with a laser cut wood deck or do you do you magic on the diecast deck directly? Oh, and before I forget, I am definitely a fan of your work and have learned many a fantastic technique from you, thanks a million!

[@boomerdiorama]

I just lay a few washes on the deck with some fine turf foam. ;-)

[@johnschutt9187]

😯Wow!

[@boomerdiorama]

Thank you!

[@SB5SimulationsFerroviairesEEP]

Sacré boulot! Merci du partage! Stéph.

[@boomerdiorama]

Cheers! ~ Boomer.

[@SkipJack1950]

Boomer, I build smaller 30-40ft fishing vessels. Those larger vessels typically had a steel plate deck, overlaid with a very thick epoxy, rollered on which gave it a very "nasty" aggressive non-slip surface... look at pictures of our warships (aircraft carriers).

[@boomerdiorama]

They use that technique on Tug boats as well. Thanks for sharing!

[@SkipJack1950]

@@boomerdiorama it's very expensive when compared to other materials... speaking of which, I use pumice mixed in the gelcoat to give a non-slip surface. It comes in course, med, & fine... very cheap & measurements out to be convincing N, HO, & O scale ballast. I don't believe it's actually real rock they use, might be, but I think it's ground up epoxy and sifted to size.

[@Vman7757]

Nice. Thank you for sharing. Are there tie downs that hold the cars in place? Just curious. Thanks again for sharing.

[@boomerdiorama]

With this ship they used "Jack" stands. They would only jack up the car on the end facing in towards the center by using the jack pads on the cars that were on all rolling stock. This would prevent them from rolling off the deck in a pitching sea. Some barges that were built later had steel right angle welded to the steel deck with pick points for cable hooks, etc. The Barrier Princess never had steel surface decks so they used jack stands.

[@WheelchairGuyHobbyChannel]

Boomer, I want to be just like you when I grow up! I’m 58 years old now so….

[@boomerdiorama]

Almost there . . . lol. ;-)

[@TubbyTubberson]

I'm about 95% sure the deck is steel with the rails welded down and then asphalt to bring the deck level to the top of the rail-head. Beautiful work though!

[@boomerdiorama]

I agree!

[@jasonadamson3265]

Amazing as usual. Quick question would you trust fine pumice gel by golden as a surface for the deck. I'm doing the seaspan Greg and loving this build. Not as complex as yours but has its own cool factor. I am just wondering if you think that will stick to sanded styrene (my deck is all covered in styrene) and do you think I should build my slip and lay that track first or can I do the barge track first and line up slip just wondering your opinion thanks for any help and your teachings are absolutely amazing as usual! That's the gift here is your ability to teach these techniques in an understanding way! Thank you!

[@BrooksMoses]

You might also consider a third option: Build the slip and barge base together, lay the track across both, and then cut the barge free, thereby ensuring the tracks line up perfectly without much extra work.

[@boomerdiorama]

Yes, I would use "FIne Pumice Gel" as well. It's a good thing to become familiar with all the products because results can be stunning. Try a test piece. I always test things on small samples first. I spread this product over almost any surface (even metal) as long as there is aggressive scoring or texture on it. I you spread it too thin it might peel or roll up on plastic. If you spread it thicker it should stay down no problem with some shrinkage as well. ;-) Cheers.

[@jasonadamson3265]

Ok I will do a test for sure thank you for your help.

[@politicsandtrains]

On the Marine Atlantic Ferries that ran from Borden to Cape Tormintine, the decks were steel with a really thick coat of paint with a grit in it, it was like 1/4 inch thick.

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks for sharing. They do that with the Tug boat decks here as well. Cheers.👍

[@boomerdiorama]

They do that on Tug boat decks as well here on the west coast. Cheers!

[@StationaryDingleberry]

Beautiful work as always! I have had an ongoing question as to whether idler flats are ever used on your prototype. It looks like not, as the engine can travel onto the barge...

[@boomerdiorama]

They use idler 'flat' cars exclusively. I just haven't finished things yet. I'm deep into building stuff.

[@ADPeguero]

@16:15, Hi Boomer. What pin-vise do you use please? I model in N Scale. Is the one that you use too big for N? Thank you.

[@boomerdiorama]

Not sure. I found it in a hobby store. It's O.K. The set screw tends to blow out after much use.

[@TheGomes412]

I notice that your track wire feeders are soldered to the sides of your rail. Is that a better option instead of soldering to the underside of the track/rail?

[@boomerdiorama]

If you don't see it yes. There is more contact in the web of the rail this way. I covered it up anyway. I usually solder to the bottom of the rail in some cases as well. I even solder in several places if I use PC board ties for greater continuity.

[@randysrockandrollrailroad8207]

🤠

[@boomerdiorama]

I see you are moving Randy. Good luck to your new space and I hope it offers great modeling opportunities. Cheers ~ Boomer.👍

[@TheGomes412]

Can you describe what the red plug was in the early part of the vid, and what does it do?

[@boomerdiorama]

The red plug is for the "bus" wire or track dropper wires so it gets good current to the buried track on the deck. I do it in several places for redundancy and reliability. There may be times where I want to drive a loco on and off the Ferry. ;-)

[@SkipJack1950]

I use electrical tape with great success... gotta buy the "good stuff" and not the cheapest you can find. Just make sure you allow it to relax to a neutral stable shape and not put it down "stretched".

[@boomerdiorama]

Yes! Good quality electrical tape is great as well. Thanks for sharing!

[@rwissbaum9849]

So, for code 83 track, would you use 0.040 x 0.080 spacer plus 291 (0.060 x 0.060) angle? Or would you go up to 292 (0.080 x 0.080) angle? Seems to me the smaller angle would conform to curves more easily.

[@boomerdiorama]

You need to physically check it with a dry run. Not all track is the same. 😁

[@jamesbraxton6132]

It was probably diamond steel plate or star plate

[@boomerdiorama]

A guy working for Seapan told me it was skimmed with asphalt. Another friend told me he backed up his cement mixer and poured four inches of cement on a rail barge as well. They must do it different here on the West Coast. Cheers. 😉

[@CPRRAMSEY]

i like the liqiuidtex you use but i can only find liquidtex matt medium is this the same product

[@boomerdiorama]

Liquitex Matte Medium is excellent product that is also compatible with the texture paste. But no, it is not the same medium. It is the same product though. Try "Intercity Trains & Hobbies." Give them a call and they have it there. They can send it to you. Cheers.

[@CPRRAMSEY]

@@boomerdiorama will do thank you

[@GenxDiorama]

On the photo’s I found it looks like some sort of pavement. I think I can even see those tar fixings where it was ripped apart.

[@boomerdiorama]

Yes! Now that's what I see as well. Thank you for sharing that. Cheers ~ Boomer.

[@TomStarcevich-fb3qo]

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[@boomerdiorama]

Cheers!

[@mgamga9476]

This probably won't help. Ny automobile ferry that looks the same as that has diamond plate deck

[@boomerdiorama]

Thanks for sharing that! Cheers.

[@skruloos1]

Lots of commercials...

[@boomerdiorama]

I do not control the commercials. It's either that or membership and I don't want to do that. ;-)