Modern HE Washers Suck!!! (Part 1)

[@Sharkie626]

Just last night, I happened to remember that you had two videos on this. I revisited them again then. I was not disappointed!

[@jaykay18]

This was actually a pretty funny set!

[@lizboz]

Same here!

[@jeromedavis8575]

Likewise!

[@Blackdragon79]

57 mins for a normal wash? What a joke. My speed queen can do 2 loads in that time.

[@jaykay18]

+Blackdragon79 Same with my Whirlpool Direct Drives. I don't know how people accept this kind of garbage in their own homes.

[@Blackdragon79]

+jaykay18 I actually seen this machine attempt to wash a queen size comforter. Not once during that entire cycle did that comforter turn over.

[@jaykay18]

Blackdragon79 That comes as no surprise. Better off taking it to the river and beating it on rocks!

[@DeeOne88]

@@Blackdragon79 what year is your speed queen?

[@Blackdragon79]

@@DeeOne88 it's a 2014 model

[@Smurdle450]

Oh, my, god. I came back here and forgot how goddamn funny this video is! My internal ROFLcopter has been released once again!

[@jaykay18]

Nice! I know I'm awesome ;-)

[@o0Avalon0o]

These new washers need to be regulated for quality. My family specifically bought a "commercial grade" H.E. washer (HE was all you could buy within an hour drive) & our clothes come out smelling like soap, dirt, & failure.

[@jaykay18]

"Soap, dirt & failure". What a great line! You got that right! Don't even bother with HE, it's Highly Expensive and actually Hardly Efficient. Go to a used appliance shop, even if it takes 6 hours to travel to, and get a good old fashioned washer that has one job to do. It will serve you well for many years to come.

[@jeromedavis8575]

There's nothing commercial about HE washers. NOTHING!!!! These people think we're stupid!

[@jeromedavis8575]

You should've bought Speed Queen Classic!

[@DaSamNudge]

Joe's energy is so entertaining 😂

[@jaykay18]

I agree.

[@laundryandtrainman2467]

@@jaykay18Did you know LG released their agitators? They work better, especially with the Deep Fill.

[@jaykay18]

@@laundryandtrainman2467 What is this deep fill crap? I use REAL WASHERS. They have powerful motors and transmissions and manual controls. They way laundry is supposed to be done. They are selling Playskool toys today.

[@YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

Someone suggested adding buckets of water at the beginning of the cycle. HE suggests that you leave the lid open after washing to dry it out to prevent mold and smell from developing. Like anything, if moisture builds up in a sealed environment it will stink. I keep the lid open overnight. This is what I do and there's never a smell. Also the fragrance packs also helps, which is what I use. But I totally agree with you, these HE washers SUCK!!!!! The drain hoses suck - they are made of cheap plastic, the cycles are too freakin' long - almost an hr, (4 loads take 4 hrs), there is too little water to really get the clothes clean, it wrinkles and damages the clothes, lint and stains are every where, and the agitator at the bottom of the drum sucks. While the cycle was going I watched clothes on the top take an extremely long time to come in contact with the water at the bottom and by that time the washing cycle was half-way through. I miss my agitator. Also what is the use of having a huge drum when these washers don't take advantage of it? The water only fills halfway on the "deep fill" option. So far my dryer works flawlessly, which is the only good thing about buying this set.

[@christopherconger4619]

It only takes 3hrs and 36mins to "Sanitize" and "Steam" the laundry...

[@jaykay18]

Yes, _only_ that long!

[@Smurdle450]

Not long at all! (SARCASM INTENDED)

[@lorumipsum1129]

Christopher Conger I guess it depends on what you “sanitize.” That’s sounds a bit dark if you think about it.

[@jeromedavis8575]

I wish everything was made like they were in the '80's! Washers back then were vicious on dirt!

[@jaykay18]

They made them even better prior to the 70s, good old American iron!

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@jaykay18 That's what you need!

[@ryans413]

Everything going to break lol I lost it

[@jaykay18]

+Ryan Scherbluk Thanks, Ryan! I don't know how I held it together either, but either way, it's not far from the truth!!!!

[@DaSamNudge]

9:07 - when your iPhone gets to 30% and dies for no reason

[@jaykay18]

That's just because it's Crapple.

[@DaSamNudge]

jaykay18 true, true.

[@marco.morel04]

TRUUUUUUUUUEEEEEE

[@fordfilo1068]

"Everything is gonna break" hahahahaha Im dead

[@jaykay18]

Ever since this video was recorded, that line has stuck!

[@jaykay18]

@Ňaraŋĵa Oh yeah, it broke about a year later. Replaced with a Speed Queen TC5.

[@ericfreeze1945]

My Maytag did a load of towels for 2 and 30 minutes and 5 error codes. It also gets angry when I open the valve for hot water and then drains the water and trys again.

[@jaykay18]

That's about par for the course.

[@BAFVintage]

Oh god the house I'm moving to has one of these. My parents don't want to get an old quality washer and dryer. Guess I'll live with dirty clothes.

[@jaykay18]

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps, if they already had an old-school washing machine, and tried this, and found it was virtually useless, they'd change their tune.

[@BAFVintage]

That's the thing, we have a direct-drive now. Enjoying my final months with it. Hopefully the horrible quality of the new one will finally make them believers in vintage quality appliances.

[@jaykay18]

Start showing them videos.

[@TheBehemothHyper]

@@BAFVintage I make my mom do the laundry because of how crappy my new front load washer is and I don’t even want to touch it. Hey BA&F’s I have to say I was rather disappointed to see the peace of crap China pride LG Top load washer and couldn’t take that Kenmore 90 Series direct drive. I wish you were able to take that. Anyways I hope you can find a Kenmore 90 series or 80 series whatever that’s similar and of course start making wash videos. Wow this comments old lol. Didn’t see it till now but I just hope you can find a nice Kenmore washer like your old one and replace that peace of crap you have now

[@TheBehemothHyper]

@@jaykay18 BA&F’s used to have the same old school Kenmore washer like xjoe81x’s two twins expect his was a 90 series. I find the 90 series and 80 series washers are the same. I say him and xjoe81x used to have the same washer. I always look back in BA&F’s video of when he did a load in his Kenmore 90 series direct drive and feel disappointed that he won’t have the same washer anymore. I hope he can find a nice Kenmore washer like the washer he had before. This is an old comment lol but didn’t see it till now. I just wanted to state my opinion on BA&F’s old school washer and how much I hate his new HE washer.

[@Smurdle450]

ONE good washer today:speed queen. NONE OF THIS "HIGH EFFICIENCY SUPERIOR CLEANING"CRAP YOU GET THESE DAYS

[@Smurdle450]

In fact, one of my friends has an LG and they say they just want it to BREAK ALREADY so they can get a new one.

[@Smurdle450]

AND they'll be getting a QUALITY speed queen washer.

[@jaykay18]

+Smurdle450 That's a story I've heard over and over again!

[@Smurdle450]

And I have a 5 year old he kenmore Bearings are bad after 1 year! I will get a speed queen when it breaks.

[@jaykay18]

Smurdle450 I've also heard about lackluster bearings! Especially on these "HE" machines.

[@WilliePeck]

LG you never fail impress me with cheapness. The commentary is fucking Hilarious in this video!

[@jaykay18]

+Willie Peck Thanks! A piece of crap like this _really_ rubs me the wrong way.

[@WilliePeck]

Oh yea I can tell! At least front loading machines look like they know what they're doing!

[@jaykay18]

Willie Peck Well, let's say they put up a good _front_.

[@WilliePeck]

Haha lol!

[@theericfreeze1493]

Me: turns on machine Machine: 🎶everything is gonna break🎶 Me: grabs axe and tosses it on the control panel and then steals direct drive from the dump.

[@jaykay18]

Save the trouble at the beginning, it's less work that way.

[@marylawson6060]

My 31 year old Whirlpool died 😢😢😢 so I bought Speed Queen. Doesn't have bells and whistles I have to turn the knobs for water load size and regular, delicate etc. But it agitates like my old washer. And made in Wisconsin.

[@jaykay18]

Yep, you did the right thing! As a matter of fact, the machine shown in this very video has DIED and has been replaced with a SQ also! There will be a 4-part series coming up on that in the future.

[@marylawson6060]

jaykay18 Yep people I know don't like the HE machine so that was enough. Now to get my basement floor that pretty.

[@jaykay18]

It was only that way because the heating oil tank ruptured and the original concrete floor had to be broken up, so it was repoured and finished.

[@marylawson6060]

jaykay18 Oh man what a job that must have been. You wouldn't know the way it looks now. Great job.

[@jaykay18]

The company that did it could have certainly done better. Fortunately for me, this was not my house, problem, or washing machine to have to deal with, but I certainly do feel bad for my friend's mother who this happened to. Anyway it's all done now and the floor looks good for what it is. That basement used to be finished years ago.

[@jenniferkiesling676]

This was the funniest video about appliances ever!! I used to have this machine it was awful. Now it’s only speed queen for me lol

[@jaykay18]

Thanks so much! Yes, this machine was also replaced with a Speed Queen. No more complaints!

[@toltec13]

At first, I didn't like the HE washers, period! After a few years, the tub bearings give out and the drain sump fills up with lint, coins, etc. Once the sump becomes a collection zone of these undesirable objects, it becomes a breeding ground for bacteria and mold. No doubt your clothes then smells like a sewer basin. After I repaired the bearings and cleaned the drain sump, I concluded that the sump needs cleaning 2 a year, at least. Better yet, the engineers need to go back to the drawing board and improve the bearings and develop a way to extract the washing by product(coins, lint, etc). I don't mind doing the maintenance, but for an average person this may be a pain in the ass.

[@jaykay18]

+jorge hernandez Generally, yes, a well-oiled machine runs better than one that hasn't been oiled. But to have such high maintenance is ridiculous. There are many with older washing machines that will tell you stories of 15, 20, 25, or more years than never needed anything. Plus they knew how to wash. Perhaps I have a problem adapting to the future, but I can't possibly see an HE machine doing a better job than my old ones. Kind of like mother's or even grandmother's cooking. NOBODY does it like them, and chances are they are very old recipes as well. There is just no comparison.

[@toltec13]

+jaykay18 I Agree 100%! My mom's old Maytag lasted well over 20 years. We have become a "throw away" society. Gone are the days when every city had a "we can fix anything" shop at a reasonable cost. Today, we don't seem to put any value on anything anymore: make them cheap and squeeze as much profit from the consumer. I restore American made tube radios from the 1930's-1950's as a hobby and they were built with quality and pride. My sister purchased a Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner a few years back which lasted about 5 years; my mom's Kirby vacuum cleaner, on the other hand, is 51 years old and still runs well. I may be old-fashioned, but I put value on old American made products and bring them back to life.

[@jaykay18]

jorge hernandez Excellent! Yes, America unfortunately just isn't what it once was. In my opinion it's due to Corporate American Greed. They are the ones that pushed all the manufacturing off-shore to China, to be made with sub-standard materials and workmanship, with the workers getting paid slave labor. Now they're trying to pay the burger-flippers $15/hr.

[@dualactionsurgilator]

Just another reason I have a Commercial grade Speed Queen Front Loader. My Washer will use much less water and do a far superior job. No clean washer cycle needed either as it has a smooth finished stainless steel outer tub which won't build up with shit or crack and leak.

[@jaykay18]

Here, top loaders were king for many many years, and they didn't have to have clean cycles either. Then they designed them like this, and it all went bad.

[@YourLocalFireAlarmTech]

Modern washers are GARBAGE! My 21 year old Kenmore is still kicking... Whirlpool Direct Drive Mechanical washers are STILL the best aside speed queen

[@jaykay18]

Thank you! Exactly right!

[@YourLocalFireAlarmTech]

These new HE electronically belt driven pieces of crap can't wash worth a damn!! The rollover is terrible, water level is like 1 CUP they are poorly designed and use cheap parts, more computer crap instead of mechanical parts to worry about, so yay for error codes!! No tub brakes, ridiculous lid locks, and please tell me WHY it takes over 1 hour and a half to do it all? 15 mins for main wash on mine... the reliability is trash, no more than 5 years and it's broke! I wish we could just go back to the way washers used to be, because none of them sucked back then!

[@jaykay18]

Unfortunately it's a bygone era. Washing machines are computers now, computers that think they know better than you. I strongly dislike when a computer thinks it's smarter than me.

[@spatsbear]

Gotta show that Made In China Pride (TM)

[@jaykay18]

+Spats Bear Inspected by none other than Huong Wu! He's on Facebook! But there's probably so many of them, and the original Huong Wu probably died from lead poisoning.

[@jaykay18]

***** Bleach eats metal, by causing corrosion. Doesn't take much. Most older washing machines have rust, some have holes punched through by bleach. There's no way to prevent spillage of bleach, it's like cars that rust out due to salt on roads in areas where there's snow. Just a fact of life.

[@blueandwhite363]

+Spats Bear Speed Queen says USA pride. You can never go wrong with Speed Queen appliances

[@Smurdle450]

Oh LG, shame on you.

[@blueandwhite363]

No shame on Speed Queen, built to last.

[@ENB2002]

The reasons I don't like HE Washing machines (long): 1. The manufacturers are complete hypocrites. The washer manufacturers such as Whirlpool, LG (Life's Garbage), and "Swansung" (Samsung) pitch their products as being more environmentally friendly by using less water & energy, and then turn around and use a lot of plastic on their washers. Plastic takes hundreds of years to degrade in our landfills, and there's a huge problem with plastic waste floating around in our oceans. That sounds so much more environmentally friendly compared to steel, which breaks down into nutrients for the soil over time, and isn't limited in usefulness when recycled in the same way plastic is. 2. The machine has complete control over how it does YOUR laundry. At least on the machine shown here, you can't tell the machine to fill up to the amount of water you want it to; it does automatic load sensing. This may sound convenient, but what happens when the load sensors break? You will have an otherwise fully functional washing machine that you can't use just because it throws an error code about non-functional load sensors. If the automatic weight sensing fill was just an OPTION you could CHOOSE TO SELECT along with the small, medium, and large wash load settings, then it might be a tolerable/acceptable feature. But no, you are at the mercy of the automatic load sensing that may or may not use the amount of water YOU want to use on YOUR clothes. 3. This machine (and some others) have a wash plate on the bottom of the tub driven by a motor. I actually watched a washing machine buyer's guide by This Old House (don't watch it if you hate modern washers), and one of the reasons the guy gave for buying an HE washer is for the more "energy efficient" motors. However, from the sounds this machine made while it was "cleaning" the tub, I believe the motor is being turned on, then off, then on and off again with the polarity reversed. Electric motors are at peak efficiency (which everything on a washer has to be at these days) when running continuously. Starting a motor, as well as changing speeds, takes more energy energy, and can even waste energy on lower quality motors. It just seems counter-intuitive since they could just add a TRANSMISSION, with a TUB BRAKE, and the motor could just run continuously while the transmission did the work of changing the direction in which the wash plate moved. 4. The full capacity of the wash tub can't always be used. Lorain Furniture on KZbin did some testing on an LG WT1901, and one of the things he mentioned was that it could not wash a full load of 12 bath towels very well. Where it "excelled" was when he filled it up halfway with 6 bath towels. One of the oldest tricks in the book to save time, energy and water when washing clothes is to wash full loads. Not only is washing 2 loads of 6 bath towels time more time consuming, the machine uses more energy to do two loads as apposed to one. Once again, the machine is counter-intuitive.

[@jaykay18]

1. This is a bit far-fetched. Steel is going to take a VERY long time to break down via iron oxide to enrich the soil. Sure, plastic won't help the soil at all, but even so. 2. I agree, they took away the ability for you to do laundry the way you want to do laundry. Now it's the norm; the machine has to select how much water for you. I guarantee that every single time, it gets it wrong! 3. I fully agree with what you said. The reason they cut out all the good stuff was a cost-cutting measure. Charging more, giving you less. That's the name of the game in Corporate America. 4. Washing is regressing to how it was before the "automatic washer" became prevalent in America. Somewhere around the late late 1940s to 1950s, "automatic" washers came on the scene, and that was the next thing to have in order to "keep up with the Joneses". Not only was it keeping up with them, it was also a good thing, because it *really did* save a lot of time, toil, and trouble. Those fortunate families who could also afford a dryer seriously had it made. Washing was no longer a chore, it was a simple task that only took a few minutes, instead of hours upon hours. But machines have now regressed, taking 2 hours per load. Yes, it's counter-intuitive, but like they say, everything old becomes new again!

[@ENB2002]

@@jaykay18 Steel is also much more recyclable than plastic. Recycled plastic is limited in usability, but with steel, you can just melt down the scrap metal and pour it into a new mold to make a new product. Other than that, washers like this with flickering, singing electronic control panels seem to be built under the assumption that nothing will ever fail on the appliance, and nothing will ever need to be replaced. That is simply not the case. In fact, I give a Life's Garbage or Swansung washer a life of five years at the MOST. If you buy a washer that isn't made by a company that also sells TVs, I'll give it 10 years max. Unfortunately, MOST millennials don't seem to take build quality into consideration when buying a new washer, but rather what lullabies the washer can sing to them, how many different cycles (that seem to do the same thing) there are that they can get for the lowest amount of money, and they probably factor in brand loyalty as well. Sadly, I think the #1 most important thing to washer manufacturers these days is getting Energy Star certified. Not about making the best performing or most reliable washer, but about getting Energy Star certified, because that would TOTALLY be the deciding factor on what washer I purchase. What really sends me over edge however, is that they try to convince you that you should "upgrade" from your old washer you've had for over 20 years to a more "efficient" washer that would last 5 years if you were lucky, and that this is what you're SUPPOSED to be doing. One more note: Why didn't the washer fill the tub all the way with water when asked to do a tub clean? If there is one clip I would use to describe an HE washer in a nutshell, that would be it. Now, I have a question for you: Do you think there is any new washer on the market that is worth buying? Also, thank you for taking time to reply to my long winded comments.

[@jaykay18]

Wow, you sound exactly like me!!! I fully agree with everything you said! I absolutely hate the "upgrade to a new washer/dryer" BS, and people STILL fall for it, time and again, even the holdouts. They say the same thing about refrigerators, air conditioners, and dehumidifiers. The end result is always the same--the new machine will provide nothing but lackluster performance if it even works at all, usually has to run at least twice as long as the old one, and then breaks in 5 years or less, offsetting any "savings" that may have been realized. Washer on the market today worth buying? In a word, no. You need a washer, buy used!

[@jdog20012001]

Lucky Goldstar never ceases to impress us with the SHIT they pump out of their factories

[@jaykay18]

+annacomputerwiz Very well said. +500 Internets!

[@jaykay18]

***** There are worse. Gonna have to go back to beating clothes on rocks at the river.

[@jaykay18]

***** Yeah, higher efficiency than having the machine wash out the poop stains and "pollute our waterways".

[@jaykay18]

***** They can keep making phones, but major appliances were never these companies' forte. They branched out into them, which was a smart business move. People have their phones surgically attached to one hand, so they see "Samsung" or "LG" all day long subconsciously. Then, they buy Samsung or LG washers. Brand recognition.

[@jaykay18]

***** No, I don't remember them.

[@jasonhernandez9371]

@1:38, I would be done and walk away too. That machine is an embarrassment. Regular wash? More like regular dirtying cycle. How exactly do clothes get cleaned with that much water? Oh wait a minute, THEY DON'T! Using more water will permanently break the machine. POS! A mechanically driven Whirlpool Direct Drive will still work properly despite the amount of water used in it.

[@jaykay18]

+Jason Hernandez Yes, very true. A machine has to have enough water in it, because water is not only the universal solvent, but it carries the dirt away! If I were an appliance repairman, I would get a jar, scoop up some dirt, and fill it with water, to make some really dirty water. Then I would show the people that not only is this ALL the water it's going to use, but also the water is this dirty, then they use the same amount of water to flush it out. It just doesn't work that way! Way back when, when we used to beat clothes on rocks at the river, there was ample water, and it all flowed downstream. The EPA wasn't after anybody for doing that then!

[@jasonhernandez9371]

+jaykay18 I'm tired of the EPA doing the laundry for us by practically forcing us to use water saving machines. THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT! None what so ever. The EPA just pisses me off!

[@jasonhernandez9371]

+Jason Hernandez *water and energy saving machines.

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@jasonhernandez9371 You cannot wash a full load in a small amount of water! You can't!

[@MrSpyfelis]

When I buy my own house, I will buy a Speed Queen top load washer, a old belt drive or a old direct drive

[@jaykay18]

It's nice to dream, kid.

[@MrSpyfelis]

jaykay18 cool

[@binthrdonthat]

You guys are funny as hell

[@jaykay18]

Thanks very much!

[@DaSamNudge]

This is similar to the machine I did a video on at my aunt's house. I ran the self clean cycle after I took the cameras out of the machine. The reason it spins fast with water is because it doesn't use enough water to fill the entire basket with water, so it has to spin the water to reach the rest of the basket. The machine fills with hot water on the self-clean cycle, but theres actually a heating element, yes a heating element, like they use in ovens, under the basket to heat up the water even more. That is why there are no chemicals required for this machine. This is probably the only HE machine I would consider buying, however, but if I were to buy a washer I would look for an old Whirlpool direct drive or a GE Filter Flo.

[@jaykay18]

You've got the right mindset, my man!

[@coolrobuxgaming]

Surprisingly it didn’t go out of balance and then do like 10 rinses just to try to balance itself. That is wasting water, not saving. And new washers don’t have a suspension. Instead they have 4 rods. High efficiency means high inefficiency. The only high efficiency washer that didn’t have the balance sensors were the GE HydroWaves but those were still not good and they were discontinued. The GE HydroWaves just kept shaking. The GE HydroWaves also didn’t have a lid lock. Also the reason why the lids lock is due to no suspension or break. On old washers, The spin cycle is designed to spin the rest of the water out, not fill with water and agitate even when unbalanced.

[@jaykay18]

HE stands for Hardly Efficient. The filling and draining to balance the load is a huge time, energy, and water waster. Imagine if you had a washer that went off balance and you had to balance it. Except that you were blind and had no sense of touch. It's completely random guesswork as to whether you got it right or not. It's a process that should be completely manual, not resource wasting. The machine should stop down, sound an alert tone that it needs assistance, and wait. Lid locks are on every machine today because all companies are afraid of lawsuits. America is sue-happy, usually due to their own faults. Parents not watching their children, no lid lock, kid gets into the machine, lawsuit. Why? The parent should take responsibility for not watching, not blame the company. But nobody takes any responsibility for their actions nowadays.

[@coolrobuxgaming]

@@jaykay18 Also another thing with new washers is most of them lock throughout the whole cycle except GE and Whirlpool. The older Whirlpool high efficiency washers did lock full cycle tho. The older GE ones (like the HydroWave) did not tho. Also now washers cost 400 dollars at most. Appliance prices just keep going up. Even 2000s washers were way better. A lot of direct drives were made in the 2000s and those were awesome. The older GEs were just decent, not amazing. Although sometimes the older GE washers lasted like 20 years. Still way better than a new washer. New washers don’t even usually last 12 years. Old washers clean way better, have a better design, and they work better. No electronics failing. Also you had one of the higher end GEs from the late 90s or early 2000s. It appeared to be electronically controlled and had indicator lights. The more basic GEs from that time when yours was made just used mechanical controls. Even some HydroWave washers used mechanical controls. GE was the last residential washer manufacturers making washers with mechanical controls. There are ones as new as 2016. Speed Queen doesn’t count as the machines they make are designed for commercial use, not residential. Another stupid thing about high efficiency washers is that if the load is a super or extra large load and is set to the normal cycle, It will not agitate during rinse cycle. Probably some stupid water saving thing. High efficiency washers are expensive and unreliable garbage. I hope your direct drives will keep going as those are awesome machines.

[@jaykay18]

@@coolrobuxgaming You're trying so hard to sound like you know what you're talking about, that it's obvious you don't.

[@Smurdle450]

Wait... Was that a careful choice of finger when pressing the buttons in the beginning?

[@Smurdle450]

I noticed some... Very nice gestures toward it.

[@jaykay18]

Actually that wasn't the intent at the time, just happened to choose that one. Perhaps subconsciously I chose it!

[@Smurdle450]

jaykay18 whatever the reason... It happened to fit!

[@lexmarks567]

Diamond glass. Wonder how it would stand up to a blow from a hammer lol.

[@jaykay18]

+lexmarks567 Ha! It would probably stand up as well as the rest of the machine, which isn't saying much at all!

[@Epiccatsandkittens]

I would want to try with a sledge. I bet one blow would take it out lol. They don't make thing like they used to.

[@gatrwrksMarshall]

HE washers do suck. I'd rather go with a old school washer. Great video Jay!

[@jaykay18]

+Marshall H. (gatrwrks) You got the right idea! New stuff is junk!

[@gatrwrksMarshall]

Yep. It sucks that we live in a throwaway society

[@jaykay18]

***** Even worse is the junk they make today will only get worse in the future. I don't know what we're all going to do with ourselves 30 years from now.

[@dualactionsurgilator]

The new SQ TL will be of an Agi-Tub design(the drum and agitator move as 1). the stroke on the HD cycle is 900 degrees so the machine will be relying much more on lateral motion than turnover or blooming" This is done by reversing the FULL 1HP MOTOR. The transmission is gone and the motor has been doubled in horsepower. It now has a proper neutral drain and unlike all other TL machines the lid only locks during spin.(Which just makes sense) ALL models will be controlled by commercial grade, solid state electronics regardless of knobs or touchpad. This is good as properly designed solid state controls eliminate the aspect of mechanical failure associated with a traditional timer. Of course this would not hold true of the shitty electronics used in many home appliances as they are made to fail.(WHICH SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN). To sum it up I see a much more robust machine that is much better positioned to be on par with the SQ FL. It will however have to prove it's washibility as I am not convinced on the Agi-Tub design. I will post more when I know more. What I do know is if you want an old school SQ TL buy it before the end of the year or forever hold your laundry. Nick

[@jaykay18]

I'm not sold on this new design, and probably never will be. It's going against so many years of old design that just plain works. It may take some time for the Agi-Tub to work properly, most times the first model year design is flawed, and they work out the kinks in later years.

[@dualactionsurgilator]

I'm not sold on it yet either. I will reserve judgement until they have been on the market awhile. However I have faith in Alliance that they won't put a piece of shit on the market. I still wouldn't trade my SQ FL for ANYTHING. It does it's job quickly, efficiently and thoroughly and is built like a tank.

[@Sharkie626]

The agi-tub I'm not sold on either. When Whirlpool came out with those new belt drives, we could all easily see how turn over was pathetic with the tub that moved back and forth opposite of agitator direction. I have reason to doubt that was by design, I think it was because they had no choice due to the removal of a tub brake. But hey, in the possible event that SQ screws up big time, at least this new house got them when it did!

[@applianceman6009]

We have a Speed Queen AWN432 from October of 2016. 3 years later, we still have not had a single issue with it. The only good washer that is still out there is the Speed Queen TC5. There TR series does not clean.

[@jaykay18]

Yes, it was one of the last good washers.

[@applianceman6009]

Jay, the Speed Queen TC5 washer that they currently make is a good washer. It does NOT have a lid lock. They have a tub suspension, a brake, and a real transmission. Yes, it does have electronic controls, but they are the same ones that they use in their commercial laundry systems. They brought back their old design for that model. Their TR3, TR5, and their TR7 do a terrible job cleaning. They are a piece of crap.

[@jaykay18]

I'm well aware of that information.

[@applianceman6009]

I know somebody who had a Maytag Bravos washer. The seal went bad in only 4 years. This caused the bearings to go bad. What a piece of crap. I went to Lowe's and Home Depot and felt how thin the materials used on them were. Modern washers sold at big box stores are "Lousy Garbage" or "Lots of Grief ", "Samshit", "Whirlfool", and "Whirltag".

[@jaykay18]

Once again, I'm well aware of all that information.

[@cammycamdemos9799]

Everything is gonna break! Everything is broken! Everything is gonna break! The last one idk but thank you drive through!

[@jaykay18]

That song was great!

[@ENB2002]

78 people are still waiting for Joe's 8 o' clock rendition of "TONIGHT!".

[@jaykay18]

Well it won't be tonight, won't be tomorrow night, and as far as he's concerned they can wait for as long as they want.

[@kagome122885]

This is exactly why I am not getting rid of my 2006 Roper direct drive washing machine!

[@jaykay18]

There is no reason to EVER get rid of it, and it will probably last a lifetime.

[@kagome122885]

@@jaykay18 I had to replace the agitator dogs in early 2017, and that's about it. I replace the inlet hoses every 5 years, use Affresh once a month, and leave the lid open when it's not in use.

[@jaykay18]

@@kagome122885 Yep, it'll keep on running.

[@ESUTERURE]

I'm so glad I bought recently my old school Kitchen Aid direct drive washer. Works great and quiet. And not computerized yuck.

[@jaykay18]

Used to have a phrase: To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer! Once they computerized pretty much anything, they turned to garbage.

[@ESUTERURE]

@@jaykay18 yep. I dodged a bullet. Where I bought my washer they get tons of the older ones. They adore them. They try to persuade buyers to get the direct ones but alas the fools want the shiny new ones.

[@jaykay18]

@@ESUTERURE Most times they go to the stores for something shiny and new.

[@ESUTERURE]

@@jaykay18 you're correct

[@Smurdle450]

You know what's funny...LG says in the name:"LG Electronics inc." See? "LG ELECTRONICS"!NOT "LG APPLIANCES"!!! And just look at how their appliances turn out. TERRIBLE.

[@jaykay18]

+Smurdle450 Their electronics turn out terrible as well!

[@Smurdle450]

Indeed they do!

[@andrewg593]

This video series never gets old!

[@jaykay18]

Thanks, I know!

[@jeromedavis8575]

You cannot wash clothes in a thimble full of water! What do they not understand! This is why I use Speed Queen Laundry!

[@jaykay18]

By selling poor quality machine with poor quality washing, they break sooner so they can sell you MORE poor quality machines with poor quality washing.

[@jeromedavis8575]

Who told LG and Samsung they could make appliances?

[@jaykay18]

Certainly not me!

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@isaiahgreenfield2037 He should be in jail!

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@jaykay18 I didn't either! Some stupid idiot did!

[@Sharkie626]

57 minutes for a regular cycle......... this thing is drinking while intoxicated........ Also, I did get your message about the recent vids. I was absolutely bombed with class work last week, so, I'll look at them as soon as I can.

[@jaykay18]

+Sharkie626 Drinking while intoxicated indeed! I think its liver is failing, it peed all over the floor!

[@redandwhite3228]

+Sharkie626 LG is Lots of Grief, especially their VCR systems nowadays.

[@Smurdle450]

+jaykay18 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[@jaykay18]

***** I was actually there this past week (no video) and the machine was on. It "Shaked", it "Shimmied", but it certainly didn't "Rock N Roll"! It just sat there and fumbled around, like a kid who didn't study for the test and goes in and doesn't know a single question!

[@jaykay18]

***** The time wasn't right to make a video, plus I didn't bring my camera.

[@gospos1]

Jay, did Joe go Gary Busey on us and forgot to wear his helmet while riding his motorcycle?.. He cracks me up but he ain't right...lol

[@jaykay18]

+gospos1 He's told me he was thrown down the stairs a lot as a kid, or dropped on his head too many times, or perhaps it was self-inflicted damage. Who knows? He sure doesn't! He cracks me up too sometimes. I never know what he's going to say next. There's definitely something not right, but he makes up for his deficiencies in other ways. Once I figure out what those are, I'll let you know ;-)

[@Maint98941]

Glad we did our research and bought a speed queen, we like to sock our clothes in hot water ?

[@jaykay18]

+gilbert landeros-holden Good deal, you know what's good!

[@jaykay18]

***** It's people like the person you reference that only have their fake facebook friends as subscribers, yet they have no videos to offer to the KZbin community, and all they do are troll the comments section. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

[@catkicked]

+gilbert landeros-holden good pick speed queen

[@any123-og]

On the crappy HE washer (if you still have it), bypass the lid lock 🔐

[@jaykay18]

It died somewhere back in 2016 I believe.

[@any123-og]

@@jaykay18 so it only lasted about 1 year :(

[@jaykay18]

@@any123-og Actually, about 5. The heating oil tank in this house ruptured, the basement contents were removed, and the soil excavated, and the slab repoured. This washer sat in storage for about a year, and this was hooking it back up after the basement was deemed inhabitable again. It lasted a year from this point.

[@sartoaj]

Ive got the same LG washer. Its trash. Went through 2 main boards, a set of suspension rods, and 4 drain pumps in 11 years. I finally hooked up a trash pump to the drain hose for a manually operated, 300 gallon using rinse and spin cycle. My clothes have never been cleaner. 😂

[@jaykay18]

Amazing, how when you use the one thing washers used to never cheap out on--water--the clothes get clean. They don't call it the "universal solvent" for nothing.

[@cestmagnifique7932]

I'm here cuz I've moved to a building that has front loaders and I've just started my wash.. then I realised I forgot to add a piece of clothing and the machine will still go for over an hour, but...... I cannot ad the clothe, I can't open the door.. like WTF, that's a load of nonsense

[@jaykay18]

Yes, and the public has been duped into believing this is normal, and the way it's supposed to work. With front loaders, there's usually a great reason why NOT to be able to open the door while washing, chances are water will spill out. But all washers are like that today.

[@IanGSully]

So why is that house called "The Oil Spill House"?

[@jaykay18]

It used to use heating oil for heat. One day, the tank was being refilled because it had run low, and it ruptured. The tank was located in the basement. Half of the basement was finished, the other half was not. All destroyed. It required jackhammering up the concrete floor, removing that, and then excavating the soil that was contaminated. New soil was sent back in, and a new slab was poured. I surmise the reason the tank ruptured was because of a plugged vent. These tanks have a vent with a whistle, the air escaping as they are being filled makes a whistling noise. The person who fills the tank is supposed to listen for the whistling to stop, and stop pumping at that point. However, it was the middle of a nasty winter, and I believe the holes in the whistle were plugged with ice, so the pressure built in the tank until it failed. I don't have proof of that, just an educated guess. If the tank filler actually did his job properly, this likely all could have been prevented. But like most, they're not there to work, just to collect a paycheck.

[@IanGSully]

@@jaykay18 HOLY SHIT! That would have been quite the damage!

[@jaykay18]

@@IanGSully Probably had a couple videos on that.

[@IanGSully]

@@jaykay18 Oh okay.

[@johnbruches598]

That doesn't solve the customers problem, telling them its a piece of crap. They will not throw away a $500 plus machine. When asked what to do, I offer solutions to the problem. After 27 years as a technician. I've seen a lot of changes in the major appliance field.

[@jaykay18]

+John Bruches Offering solutions is great. But when the solutions actually pose an imposition, such as having to ALWAYS use the bulky cycle, and lessen the load size, it's actually a workaround to a problem that won't be fixed. Reducing the load size especially is a kludged workaround; less in each load creates more loads. Couple that with the fact that it can take 2 hours to do a cycle, and that adds up quick. I couldn't imagine doing laundry for 6 hours (and I understand the machine is doing the work). I can get 6 loads of laundry done in my 2 machines in a little less than 2 hours, with no shortcuts being taken, or workarounds that need to be performed. It's really a matter of good vs. bad.

[@chubbybunnygang1205]

Gosh why am I seeing this video a year too late. My husband brought a set of these shitty "smart drum" lgs home. I filmed the whole cycle and all it's doing is slowly moving around dirty clothes. Where's the clean in that?!? $5000 down the drain, literally.

[@jaykay18]

"They don't make them like they used to" doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad these new machines are.

[@tallboyyyy]

You aren't supposed to clean the stink out of the washer you fool. You are supposed to buy scent boosters so your clothes that don't get clean at least won't smell like the washer or your nasty BO. They come out smelling like flowers so they must be clean and the scent is guaranteed to last for 14 days so your nasty BO or machine stink residue stays covered up long enough for it to find it's way back in the laundry again.

[@jaykay18]

+tallboyyyy +5000 Internets! You win! It must be too early for me, I can't possibly come up with anything close to better! Ok, feeble attempt: They must be HE compatible scent boosters (READ: EXTRA-STRENGTH) otherwise you run the risk of ruining (gasp!) your new washer!

[@420bars]

DONT BUY HE here is why. 1.They take longer to wash, in some cases over 2 hrs. 2. In most HE washers you will never EVER be able to select the amount of water to use,this will leave a bad odor. 3. They can not remove oil stains as well. 4. By selecting fast wash, the stupid washer will just drain the water without Spin Dry..this leaves the Softener, then the washer adds the bleach, yea you will have Softener and bleach together. 5. Load Sensing is just a waste of even more time that is not effective of fluffy stuff . Here is how it works. The washer weights the clothes, spins it then micro manages every drop of water is adds. all to make sure that the clothes inside sucks it in. Ones the washer "THINKS" all the clothes is wet is starts to wash.. This is by far the most stupid shit ever.. It takes for ever and in some cases the clothes never gets wet.. even on a front load washer the water never gets to the center of the clothes.. 5. On "My Wash Settings" you will not be able to maximize the temperature or amount of water. 6. The soap companies figured these washer needs less detergent so they made "Low suds detergent" when in reality all you have to use is less detergent.. But hey that would have mean less sales for them. If saving water is more important then time and clean clothes for you.. the HE washers are are for you.. And dont thing that a larger capacity washer will help.. Take my word for it, SHAKE OFF THE HYPE FOR HE WASHERS AND GO WITH A SPEED QUEEN.

[@jaykay18]

Well said!

[@Smurdle450]

It amazes me how when I first figured out that speed queen made home laundry equipment, nobody knew about it. And here we are, years later, and now EVERYBODY knows. But of course everyone gets a price of crap HE washer.

[@jaykay18]

Smurdle450 No, those "in the know" will buy a SQ. Perhaps after being fooled by one of these spaceships posing as a washing machine,

[@Smurdle450]

jaykay18 yeah, and I got my parents "in the know" about HE, so now they said "it's not worth this HE s@&/, so where do I get a SQ???" Yes, YES. We will get a SQ when the whirlpool dies. I got them sold.

[@jaykay18]

Smurdle450 Good. That was the hard part!

[@johnbruches598]

I always tell people to use bulky cycle, some are now coming with deep water cycle. Use H.E. detergent for a better wash. Reduce your load size also.

[@jaykay18]

+John Bruches That's all fine and good, but it doesn't negate the fact it's a piece of crap!

[@ericgreen4610]

My mother has these washers and she doesn't even bother messing with it. My father is more tech savvy, so he uses the machine. But I'm telling you, these washers are really stupid. Basically they're just lazy machines that don't wanna wash your clothes.

[@jaykay18]

That's right, modeled after the people that designed them!

[@TheBehemothHyper]

This is an example of a lemon washer. Why even call this a washer when it doesn’t clean your damn clothes. I’m certain that these crappy things are gonna breakdown and give more problems to people and cost so much money to get it fixed. The worst part is eventually the whole thing will quit all together maybe less then a year and then your money wasted. I also noticed these modern machines use these crappy computer boards and sometimes they take a crap and say Error F01 and also not to mention they made these annoying noises when you press the power button and can be very irritating. Also the worst part is that they become very expensive in stores and basically people are wasting there money on what I call a lemon. Now that I’ve watched this video, I’m gonna take your suggestions for the future and buy my family an old school direct washer expect for the Two family members who were smart enough to keep their direct drive washers. Anyways thanks Jay!

[@jaykay18]

No problem, this thing died already and has been replaced with a Speed Queen.

[@TheBehemothHyper]

@@jaykay18 How good is a classic Whirlpool direct drive and will they not tear up clothes and blankets? The reason I ask is because I heard some washers (don’t know how old or how new) has teared up clothes and plus I’ve never used one of those older Whirlpools before. Anyways I heard the older Whirlpools are good machines, last a long time and wash clothes really good so hopefully should be fine.

[@jaykay18]

@@TheBehemothHyper They are excellent in every way, and quite gentle, if the machine is used properly.

[@TheBehemothHyper]

@@jaykay18 Lol great! A gentle and quite machine to wash my valuable clothes! Get the job the done and have clean clothes to wear and clean blankets. Also I bet the older Whirlpool direct drives should be strong enough to clean certain things that my crappy HE lemon can’t do (for example remove dirty snot from shirts) I bet these things can do it! Also best of all! This machine will be gentle enough and give my valuable baby blanket a good clean. It’s silly to have baby blanket but I’ve had that blanket for years. That blanket needs a good washer. I’m 50% sure that peace of shet HE washer will eventually ruin clothes and especially valuable clothes. I’ve heard HE front loaders can do that. Sorry for the load of comments lol. I just want a old school washer so badly cause I want super clean clothes and also worried the HE front loader will start ruining clothes (which it has not done yet).

[@jaykay18]

@@TheBehemothHyper They are out there, go and get one before it's too late.

[@xjoe81x]

OMG. I forgot about this. Funny shit.

[@jaykay18]

+xjoe81x "And you're forgetting! You're forgetting the answers!" My favorite part was the "Everything is gonna break" song!

[@littygangster1885]

Omg who would buy this crap? Not me!!!!! I love the washing machines that were from the 1990’s... and I love the drain pump sounds from the 1990’s and even the timer when the timer clicks it’s exciting, it’s like ooooooooooo what’s it going to do next, I miss the old school washers, now we have to live with this junk!!!!!!!!!!

[@jaykay18]

When the owner's previous machine needed replacement, she was under the same mindset many were, that when they'd buy a machine, it would last a good 15 years or so. This machine lasted about 5 years. It was replaced with a Speed Queen, one of the last good machines with a mechanical timer!

[@littygangster1885]

jaykay18 how did this machine die?

[@jaykay18]

If I recall, it started making a lot of noise, a common problem, which is due to worn out bearings. Basically, really dirt cheap, slap-it-together-and-no-one-will-notice construction, with poorly manufactured parts, is what did it in. In other words, it was planned obsolescence. Made to wear out in a few years, beyond economic repair.

[@ricardov.126]

i hate this kind of washers, they don't wash and clean up like the old ones, i have a whirlpool washer direct drive, i love them they are the best ones, i don't like this garbage, i don't like even the belt drive ones

[@jaykay18]

That's right, you know what's good!

[@borregoimages8117]

It's a shame you don't care for your washer. I think LG and Samsung's are probably some of the best H.E. units in the market. I don't have anything against a speed queen either. I just don't own one.

[@jaykay18]

This isn't even my washer! It's my friend's mother's washer! And here's a real shock, Frank---IT DIED ALREADY! Only had 5 years of use. It's appalling the lack of quality. And lack of washing action. My friend's mother (and the people who live with her) hated the thing also, from day one. It has been replaced with a brand new Speed Queen, with its old-school agitator, manual mechanical timer, and all that goodness. None of them could possibly be happier. They also state they have run out of dirty laundry--the Speed Queen is SO MUCH FASTER the loads get done in less than half the time, and also dry faster since they're spun out better!

[@borregoimages8117]

jaykay18 Yeeesh, that's so disappointing. Hopefully the Queen takes better care of them. Ask them if they can upload it washing. :)

[@jaykay18]

Oh, it has taken care of them. GOOD care of them. And your wish has been granted, I recorded the entire process of switching over from that LG to the Speed Queen. And you'll find out a sad truth about saving water and how it will cost you big bucks later on. That'll be a 4-part series, and will be coming up in a few weeks on my channel.

[@borregoimages8117]

jaykay18 looking forward to it!

[@zmzmzn2000]

Samsung should stick to TV's, their washers and dryers their washer and dryers are terrible they are VERY SLOW they use VERY MUCH energy and are not efficient at all, stay away from their washers and dryers you'll be glad you did.

[@jaykay18]

Agreed whole-heartedly! I've always said they have no business in the appliance business.

[@fegeleinthemanofantics9748]

The only he washers u should buy are front loaders and some top loaders like ge

[@jaykay18]

More like the only washers you should buy are Speed Queen or VINTAGE!

[@fegeleinthemanofantics9748]

jaykay18 my he washer is doing good I have the same like u years ago 4 yrs ago it is still cleaning and working

[@jaykay18]

That's more the exception, than the rule.

[@fordfilo1068]

Well the only good thing about these new washers are the bigger tubs.

[@jaykay18]

A bigger tub is no good if it doesn't wash well!

[@fordfilo1068]

Yeah but what if it had a dual action agitator with bigger tub

[@jaykay18]

That would be like putting fancy wheels on a car that doesn't run!

[@a9029k]

Pointless when they can’t be filled with water.

[@LolLol-zk8fc]

You also do not need sensors to determine the amount of water for a load. Like if you are doing a small load, you probably would set it to small load. Common sense people.

[@jaykay18]

Common sense is non-existent today.

[@dualactionsurgilator]

It does not look like Alliance will be changing the FL SQ anytime soon. Funny my machine does not HAVE OR NEED a cleaning cycle because it does it's job correctly. It is also much more reliable and energy efficient than this toy.

[@jaykay18]

I'm not worried about them changing the front loader, I am worried about them changing the top loader.

[@appliancessuck5581]

Don't you know what HE stands for, HUGE EXPENSE.

[@jaykay18]

Excellent! Also love your name and picture!

[@connorbull4273]

No it stands for “High Efficiency”

[@gamersexperience600]

@@connorbull4273 no shit sherlock

[@connorbull4273]

@@gamersexperience600 oh one year later..

[@drrcm81]

I have the same machine. Smells like asshole after every load. Moldy water just sits at the bottom no matter how often I try to clean. Avoid LG. I am taking a loss on this one to purchase a better machine. Tired of my house smelling like a lockeroom

[@jaykay18]

Exactly!

[@dualactionsurgilator]

What a joke! There is a reason I bought a Speed Queen Front Loader. I got a true commercial washer and none of this bullshit. OH by the way when I set it to Hot it fill with HOT water. My clothes are clean well rinsed/spun and done in less than an hour.

[@jaykay18]

Yep, that's the way to do it!!!!!

[@majida1617]

So what do we do

[@jaykay18]

There's always the old method of beating on rocks at the riverside, and not for nothing, they'll get cleaner that way anyway!

[@MrSpyfelis]

I have videos of me talking about the Modern washers and dryers, Want to see them, Search up, Advantage's and disadvantages of Modern Washer's and Dryer's Parts 1,2 and 3 Checks and errors on a new Whirlpool commercial washer and a Maytag centennial washer Checks and errors on modern washers and dryers parts 1 and 2

[@jaykay18]

Thanks, I'll check them out.

[@MrSpyfelis]

jaykay18 your welcome, Also comment if you would like to.

[@MrSpyfelis]

jaykay18 have you checked them out yet, also, can you comment on them?

[@techrickyross]

They NEVER Suck

[@jaykay18]

Right, just like modern fans don't blow!

[@Sharkie626]

If they don't suck, they blow.......error codes!

[@jaykay18]

Sometimes things are so bad, they both suck and blow at the same time!

[@dyanebarker8869]

Maytag has a comercial washer for home use it's a good machine

[@jaykay18]

It's not as good as the older machines were.

[@TheCaitlinMarie]

@@jaykay18 its as good as the early 2000s machines right before HE washers became a thing but the 2000s direct drive washers they were starting to regulate them as well, the agitation power was a little less aggressive on 2000s direct drive than it was in 80s and 90s, but still worked great. They're definitely not as good as the 70s or 80s, but it works better than what's out there now for sure. Maytag commercial actually scored higher than speed queen in 2020 I believe on their competing models. Maytag commercial is a different brand from regular maytag, regular maytag is junk. Maytag commercial is made and assembled in the US and their whole shtick is trying to bring maytag back to its glory days where their stuff didn't break down and actually lasted. The maytag commercial brand is pretty much direct drive, and very little buttons, simplistic design and made very well.

[@jaykay18]

@@TheCaitlinMarie Schtick is great, if they can only actually do it in real life.

[@declanmarsh4647]

Fake lousy garbage hardly efficient Direct drive! you guys had me in stitches throughout the video. Glad it was replaced with the Speed Queen.

[@jaykay18]

Yeah, the thing died about a year later and was replaced with the Speed Queen, one of the last good ones they made. Haven't heard a peep out of the owner since, and probably won't for a very very long time to come!

[@declanmarsh4647]

@@jaykay18 typical bet it was the electronics And sure it will last 20 years at least. It's a battle now to keep those old school washers going for as long as possible. I reckon there will be loads of used pre 18 speed queens on the used markets before long as people will be conned into getting the HE or later fake speed queens.

[@jaykay18]

Nope it was actually a mechanical failure, something was clanging around pretty bad. The old school washers really aren't a battle to keep running, they're so reliable they almost never will need fixing!

[@declanmarsh4647]

@@jaykay18 yeah true but sad truth is even the best machines like these old school beauties will have their demise eventually. But many people seem to get rid of them when there is very little or nothing wrong with them.

[@jaykay18]

I think that by the time these machines meet their demise, it will quite possibly no longer be the owner's problem. My 2 direct drive machines only do half as much laundry as everyone else's one machine. The more you use something, the sooner it will wear out. These are being used half as much. My dad has had a Lady Kenmore from the 1980s which he got around 1995 or so, and that machine has been running since without any repair needed. His other machine, a Whirlpool belt drive from the 1970s, has needed a timer and a brake disc. That's it. The tons of people throwing these machines out in droves is mostly over. Most people were throwing them out because "HE" and "save 40 billion dollars on your water bill a year" were the terms being thrown around. Everyone's always trying to get something for nothing. They figured even if they'd spend and spend and spend on a new machine, it would last and last and last, and save and save and save. It's done none and none and none! A lot of people are starting to realize this and they're snapping up machines on the used market, saying "this HE stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be, I want an old-school washer. Fortunately, those are the smart ones. There aren't too many smart ones out there, believe you me!

[@dyanebarker8869]

Havd you tried washing with it

[@jaykay18]

No, but I know the owners of it personally, and they were never impressed with anything that came out of it.

[@jefferyb7167]

The house I rent has this washer. It SUCKS!!!

[@jaykay18]

@@jefferyb7167 Just like I said!

[@joedelgado3190]

It's a time machine dude...

[@jaykay18]

Yeah it sure looks like one! I mean, look at all the time it uses!

[@fordfilo1068]

Wait is that sharkie or someone else

[@jaykay18]

xjoe81x said it.

[@240Volts]

The awful sounds on that piece of crap. The lid looks like it is from a rear window out of a car that has those defroster wires.

[@jaykay18]

Agreed! This machine has since died, and was replaced with a 2017 Speed Queen.

[@karencarmody4335]

agree , I hate mine.

[@jaykay18]

Yep, garbage.

[@Datsun7705]

why speed queen is 100000000x better than this washer

[@jaykay18]

Agreed. The machine in this video has died and was replaced with a Speed Queen.

[@mikemiller5839]

What did you guys use on the floor? I want to do my basement, i bought some stuff by behr but its not shiny.

[@jaykay18]

It's not my house, but I'll try and find out for you what it was.

[@xjoe81x]

This company is a commercial company with commercial resources. I believe they used a two part epoxy and mixed it on sight. I don't think I was there for that. You can go to my channel xjoe81x and type in oil spill and look through the videos and see if there is anything on the sight that would giveaway what product they used.

[@mikemiller5839]

Thanks, i bought some stuff by behr, epoxy garage and basement floor paint, but it's not as shiny as i would like. I might try the two part epoxy.

[@JB-ut7mu]

actually this washer is more smarter then u lol . I have a GE HE washer for over 10 years that i bought in 2009 and i only had to replace shaft and bearings about 9 months ago which only costed me 120$ .

[@jaykay18]

I bought a Whirlpool, non-HE direct drive in 2009 also, and it has needed NO REPAIRS AT ALL in that time. My other Whirlpool, from 1994, has needed 2 sets of agitator dogs, which cost $5 each set, for a total repair in 27 years of $10.

[@isaiahgreenfield858]

My mom work friends house has lg fridge she keep it o throw in the street

[@jaykay18]

There's never a need to toss anything if it still works.

[@elevatorproductionsbymaxpassa]

Get rid of this piece of shit LG Washer and get a Whirlpool Direct Drive Top Load Washing Machine.

[@jaykay18]

No worries, it died of its own accord and was replaced with a 2017 Speed Queen top loader!

[@italia01139]

Thankl you to all the green save the planet bs, that`s why washers sucks

[@jaykay18]

All the government intervention, meddling in OUR business, politicians looking for nothing more than anything to line their pockets, that's why we have such regulations today. Add in the outsourcing of this stuff to China, and you have a recipe for crap. BONUS: This washer DIED ALREADY and has been replaced, with one of quality, a Speed Queen.

[@brettromo2187]

Had my HE LG toploader for 5 years now and it works great, never had any problems with it whatsoever, would gladly take this over any other type of washer anytime

[@jaykay18]

FIVE years??? That must be some kind of record. I have 2 standard top load washers, one is 10 years old, not a single problem, the other is 25 years old, only problem was the agitator dogs which was a $5 part.

[@brettromo2187]

@@jaykay18 bought mine brand new haven't had to replace a single thing yet, and don't plan to for at least another 20 years

[@jaykay18]

The machine WILL have other plans.

[@TheCaitlinMarie]

There's definitely a different washing style with HE washing machines I noticed, I noticed oxyiclean like based HE detergents do better in HE machines, I also notice with the impeller models, the clothes need to be put neatly around the impeller not on top, and it can't be over loaded, or over use detegent. A lot of people use regular sudsy detergent in HE machines and their clothes never come out clean, and the machine takes even longer. For delicate lightly soiled items I think an HE impeller is better on not wearing clothes out opposed to a direct drive agitator machine. I had deeply soiled clothes and they came out okay in the HE machine, it was clean but it didn't feel super clean, still agitator power drive outperforms, and id rather a power drive, even if ny clothes wear out a little faster, I know I won't have to question whether they're clean or not.

[@a9029k]

@@brettromo2187just checking in. How long has it been since your washing machine shit the bed?

[@cammycamdemos9799]

Only LG and Samsung are good but not other machine from he!

[@jaykay18]

Wrong. This machine IS an LG and it's junk. ALL, that means every single one, all HE machines are junk.

[@Massachusettshvacandmore]

That display is so bs it’s so loud even on camera

[@jaykay18]

Of course, that somehow makes the machine "better".

[@Massachusettshvacandmore]

jaykay18 I hate beeping noises on appliances rip people who are using headphones on this video

[@jaykay18]

It's not much more pleasant in real life.

[@blueandwhite363]

What do we have here? A fucking LG. A lot of people hate high efficiency washers. I do too. Another thing that ticks me off is they blow up on you, or even tear up your clothes, anything could happen.

[@jaykay18]

+Blue And White They only tear up your clothes for a short while, then they stop working altogether. There is an old episode of I Love Lucy where the Ricardos sell the Mertzes their old washing machine. And of course, in typical Lucy style, the machine went haywire. Even though what they made that machine "do" (there was just a guy inside of the shell spraying water and throwing clothes out), it STILL wasn't as bad as how machines fail today. That was a nice, vintage 1950s washer, even the repairman said it wouldn't be too bad to fix it up!

[@blueandwhite363]

Whirlpool made direct drive washers would never tear up your clothes if loaded correctly like sharkie626 always says.

[@blueandwhite363]

+Jerome Davis And will last a very long time.

[@catkicked]

+Blue And White don,t have to do that with speed queen washer

[@blueandwhite363]

+catkicked That is true.

[@ceilingfansandmorecfam2342]

its a washer not a person

[@jaykay18]

That's a monumental conclusion.

[@andrewg593]

This really proves that HE washers suck and don't even clean clothes!!!

[@andrewg593]

***** If you don't, they give error codes.

[@andrewg593]

***** The HE machines are less efficient. They take over 1 hour to do laundry and don't even clean. If you have to get a modern washer, get a Speed Queen!

[@andrewg593]

***** Low efficiency is what they truly are. The HE machines are no match to the Whirlpool direct drives, Maytag, and GE filter flo washers.

[@jaykay18]

+Andrew Gallucci We'll start calling them LE--for Low End!

[@andrewg593]

jaykay18 Definitely!

[@Goldenwoodz]

Ugh these things are disgusting.

[@cadonbarton5690]

Have you ever owned one before? Cause before you say something is " Discusting " actually USE one first. I agree with these guys on the top loader, but some HE washers are good.

[@ryanstrains6446]

What a piece of crap. Well unfortunately we have a LG model that is more or less the same than this one is but maybe a bit older. My parents got ours back in 2014 so it’s 10 years old now. Supringly ours is still going which is odd and has outlasted an off brand one that we had before the LG that died because of a failed circuit board (which was also electronic). The thing I will absolutely complain about with these things and epessually these models is this: No turn over, not enough water, too much time, and goes out of balance every other load. It’s just horrible. Our washer before we got the LG did the same thing but was worse because the cloths came out smelling like machine oil. At least the LG does not do that and they do at least come out smelling like they have been cleaned. Definitely hard to find a new one these days that actually works like an old Whirlpool direct drive. These newer washers that Whirlpool makes are absolute garbage due to the fact there is like no wash action and horrible suspention. At least LG has some wash action yet and with them in the past 2 years adding their agitator for the first time (which is a step in the right direction at least) and still being a partial direct drive, they are still not perfect. Speed queen also since 2019 has also gone down due to the loss of their direct drive system but at least they still have the good suspension yet along with some wash action. I would say if you had to get a modern machine, Speed queen would be the first choice followed by either GE (which still has the traditional agitator) or a LG. Whirlpool today in my opinion is crap now and they definitely rank on the bottom of the list. Everyone do yourself a favor and go find yourself an old Speed Queen or an old Whirlpool direct drive.

[@jaykay18]

You're a few years late to the party. Things haven't changed since then.

[@ryanstrains6446]

@@jaykay18 I know. Just found this video today by total surprise. Todays washers though are still crap. Nothing will beat a old Whirlpool direct drive.

[@jaykay18]

@@ryanstrains6446 They were a good, simple design that rarely broke, and when they did, often it was a very minro and inexpensive fix. Still, the machines need care. Just like a car where maintenance has been neglected, a neglected direct drive can have worse things happen.

[@davidreviewsandstuff3841]

I have this one does not do crap

[@jaykay18]

Just like any other HE washer.

[@davidreviewsandstuff3841]

You should let a HE washer wash rocks

[@jaykay18]

@@davidreviewsandstuff3841 Have you ever seen tempered glass shatter? That's what would happen to the entire machine!

[@davidreviewsandstuff3841]

That’s great

[@majida1617]

I’d love to see more of your video 😂

[@jaykay18]

Please enjoy, I have over 2500 videos!

[@majida1617]

Your funny 💕

[@jaykay18]

Thanks, I'm well aware!

[@Floridarailz]

that's why LG suck you should get Samsung or whirlpool

[@jaykay18]

Try Speed Queen.

[@bergencounty_elevators]

LG? more like ‘L’iteral ‘G’arbage

[@jaykay18]

I say Largely Garbage. That works too.

[@bergencounty_elevators]

both work well

[@noonenoone848]

shut up modern washing machine,s are very good washing machine's

[@jaykay18]

Considering the fact I'm probably at least 3 times your age, I'm the one to tell you that you should shut up, not the other way around. Of course, if you were to actually back your statement up with FACTS that newer machines were better, then you'd have a leg to stand on. And not made-up facts they want you to believe like it "saves water" and "saves electricity", that's completely false. I've done tests measuring the amount of water and the amount of electricity both machines use, and the older, non-HE machines come out using slightly more water and slightly less electricity. The excess water would be negated should the HE machine have an unbalanced load, and have to fill and drain several times to redistribute the load. Now, I backed mine up with facts. I suggest you get going.

[@noonenoone848]

Well my 8yr old was the one that commented But he washers are great. Use less water and soap. Clean just as well as old washers . Never had an issue with our he washer in the last 10 years we've had them. But they do require you take care of them but if you're lazy then they are prob not for you. Oh and unless your 110 you're not 3 times my age.

[@jaykay18]

So we're the same age then. I'm not going to fight fire with fire. Any machine requires maintenance. But in the 30 years my dad has owned his non-HE machine, there was only 1 breakdown of a part that was worn out, which was replaced for about $25. No maintenance ever. I clean the tubs of my machines once every 2 or 3 months. But otherwise they're flawless and just plain work. No matter how much you want to fight back with "yours are better", that's fine. Mine are faster, 35 minutes for a FULL LOAD HEAVY WASH.

[@noonenoone848]

neither is better. it's a personal preference

[@jaykay18]

I can live with that.