(Modern) Hollywood hates Romance

I've noticed a trend in the last few years with female empowerment shows and movies. They typically don't include a romance. And if there is a male side character, they usually play second fiddle to the female and know it.
Even before that, love stories were slowly becoming twisted and toxic onscreen to the point of being unwatchable.
In this video, join me as we discuss the three reasons why modern Hollywood seems to hate romance so much and why this is a very bad thing for storytelling.

[@gole7411]

I really love your videos. Sad to see how these people are trying to destroy not only movies but society in general. Demonizing romance, chivalry, honor, sacrifice, etc.

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

They tried to do it 70 years ago but the Red Scare stopped it, or more correctly now, delayed their attacks.

[@AnthonyPompa]

They want to divide people and break them so then they can: A. Make us easier to control. B. Make us think that they're heroes when things get even slightly better (if that's possible). C. Extract more money. This goes for both sides of the government. They gotta keep us fighting each other so we don't start looking at them.

[@klowen7778]

Yep, though in fairness today's audience, weaned on narcissistic social media, and two-dimensional 'Superhero' movies, also bears some responsibility. After all, who still cares about things like romance, chivalry, honor and sacrifice, or even any kinda basic 'attachment'... when it's always "All About ME"?!

[@nerychristian]

@@klowen7778 It's mostly women who have that "all about me" attitude. I mean, just look at women's social media profiles. They are constantly taking pictures of themselves- whether fully clothed or half naked. Even women with husbands and children are constantly taking selfies. I grew up in a time when people had film cameras. And I remember that people used their cameras to take picture of their family, of nature, of important events. But now people have become so shallow that they only take pictures of themselves, or of their restaurant meals, or their vacations on yachts, or traveling in Europe. All these pictures designed to make them look better than they really are.

[@justsomeuser2871]

​@@TheRadioAteMyTV70 years ago... 1950s??

[@EverettBurger]

"Write what you know" - Modern Hollywood

[@lagopusvulpuz1571]

​@@Newramsin Modernity created a lot of Narcissistic people. Narcissist people can't understand what others feel.

[@kathyp1563]

Wow. Cold. But, probably spot on.

[@TaoScribble]

I've never liked romance, but I've always hated the idea being pushed that power is more valuable than relationships, and that all of these toxic relationships being portrayed nowadays are "positive".

[@kathyp1563]

I think that because rom-com is so popular with the majority of women, it is (was?) a cash cow. Thus a lot of really lame rom-coms have been made. Gee an entire channel is dedicated to lame romantic movies. BUT, excellent story telling is excellent story telling. the good ones can be hard to find.

[@ryanmaddugal]

Even the Barbie movie had the same ideologies hidden behind pink shiny girly things and the famous name of a girl toy this is basically Hollywood saying: "Embrace the woke, reject love Leave your man you don't need him He's holding you down, Be selfish." It's evil.

[@ramdustincarandang7798]

I don't think Barbie's that. It's never about making women hate men/men hate women, it's about the problems of being a woman and what it's like being human. (Not trying to be woke or offend you)

[@JudithYD]

"They had best be certain that there is a power dynamic and not an emotional connection." This is the key and the core, the heart of the problem.

[@IndyCrewInNYC]

Being a strong, independent woman doesn't mean you have to be an insufferable, angry cold fish. I see a lot of lonely, bitter women with a million regrets over the decades because they listened to these twisted H'wood creatures.

[@gcooper642]

True, but I also see a lot of disillusioned unhappy women who were lied to by the glamour of Hollywood romance. It gave them unrealistic expectations. If only that had something better to aim for than a man who burned them. We've always had an issue with realistic romance in media. It's a struggle to find something balanced.

[@cinemint]

I'm sending this to some of my friends. Thank you for putting this into words so well. This take on romance is the way my girlfriend and I genuinely feel about each other, and it hurts that this beautiful thing we have just doesn't exist in storytelling anymore.

[@gcooper642]

That's nice, but it's great that there is new media with no romance. I know retired women who married in the 70s who had awful husbands and have never been loved. The soppy stuff isn't what I've seen in real life and I like that we have non romance endings to movies now.

[@CrazyStoneTiger]

I couldn’t disagree more. Just because some people have had bad luck finding a good person doesn’t mean that romance isn’t real and powerful and important. And while not ALL media NEEDS romance, I don’t think it ever hurts the stories or characters when written correctly, and often makes it better, more powerful, and more enjoyable in general, at least for people like me who aren’t cynical and jaded. I believe in romance. You should too. Also the “that’s nice” sounded slightly dismissive. Hopefully you didn’t intend it to come across that way.

[@RandomSkyeRoses]

This is why I like the Miles and Gwen's relationship in the Spiderverse movies. You can tell that they have feelings for each other but they also truly care for each other in ways that aren't shallow

[@kathyp1563]

Miles is young, though, right? 15? 16? It's good that friendship forms & solidifies, regardless of age. But, especially at 15. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the 2nd, yet. But, their portrayal of Mile's awkward expression of attraction felt realistic...charming...

[@davidchambers44]

I would say it goes far beyond hating romance, they hate the idea of women needing a man's help for any reason, or even wanting to have a family.

[@samuraiwoman7088]

I think it's because they think that heterosexual relationships mean damsel in distress

[@petery6432]

Exactly. Wanting to fall in love and become a mom is something that is reliant on a man, and we can't have modern women relying on a man now can we?

[@guygadbois3010]

It's a bit contradictory to per feminism demonize men as responsible for all of womens' problems and then turn around and depict a romantic relationship with said men. And the ending of She-Hulk, where she kidnaps DareDevil into her new reality as a sex partner 'because a woman has needs' is another good example of the 'sex only' relationships of modern female hero characters.

[@nerychristian]

Well said. Another contradiction is the fact that feminists complain about male qualities, such as aggression, stoicism, violence, lack of commitment, etc. Yet the film makers now make female characters have these very qualities.

[@albatross4920]

​​​@@nerychristian that's mostly cause they're greedy hypocrites 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@guygadbois3010]

@@nerychristian Masculinity, although in the bastardized form presented by feminists, is at least still on screen, while femininity has been erased completely. It's a real debate as to which is getting the more hateful treatment.

[@NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore]

So we finally found the 1 person that watched shu-helk to the end...

[@kiasax2]

@@NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore BRAVO!👍😎

[@scientistservant]

I barely ever see modern films anymore, especially when it comes to Disney. I'm happy with my small but growing collection of VHS tapes, but I seriously want modern entertainment to change. I want to watch fun movies that I can escape into with entertaining characters again, not watch a movie forced to have an agenda.

[@brandonscott5544]

ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP MODERN HOLLYWOOD HATE IT,

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

You have a working VCR and a TV to play them on? Most impressive. Does your phone hang on a wall too? That would be cool. 1980s rule.

[@AnthonyPompa]

Pixar feels like a shell of it's former self. Everything recently has felt like a knock off of Inside Out or Coco. I miss the stories that were found in ones like Ratatouille or The Incredibles. I don't think it comes down to rose tinted glasses either. The quality across the board has gone down quite a bit.

[@scientistservant]

@@TheRadioAteMyTV lol We don't have a house phone. I have a small CRTV with a built-in VCR in my room :)

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

@@scientistservant You are amazing. May it all live long and prosper.

[@scottthong9274]

Modern shows: "Who needs true love, focus on your career girl!" Women after 20 years of doing just that: "Why am I middle aged and still single and can't find true love???" Remember kids, corporations want single income earners who have empty lives and fill it with products.

[@DJSenpai17]

What I find most interesting as of late is how happy these actors are regarding the lack of romance. Like, why are you SO happy about your character ending up alone? Why are you so glad that your character isn't going to end up with this man who cares about her and sees her as one of the most important aspects of his life? Why is that a good thing??? Makes no sense.

[@michaelmayo]

Since no one's mentioned this in the comments yet, I'll say this is one of the reasons for the growing popularity of Korean dramas. The Koreans make unabashedly romantic shows across many genres from fantasies like "Alchemy of Souls" and "Hotel Del Luna" to contemporary dramas like "King the Land," "One Spring Night," "Itaewon Class," and "My Liberation Notes." Since Conflict is an essential part of storytelling, Korea offers a unique setting for romantic stories since it has slammed hard into the future from its patriarchal and rigidly class-structured past, so that many of the shows feature a "lower class" woman and an "upper class" man (a Royal in the shows set in past times or the son of a conglomerate magnate in contemporary stories) who have to navigate family issues and class structure as well as finding out what they truly want individually as well as from a relationship. The characters often have huge trust issues due to being burned in the past and a good chunk of any series usually involve the pair testing each other to fiind out what kind of people they really are and if they'll have each other's backs when the chips are down, and make no mistake, the women in these shows are no pushovers and have to show as much courage, sometimes more, than the men. The length of most shows (anywhere from eight to sixteen hours) give the writers plenty of time to explore the characters and the situations so that you really become involved in the characters' plight and setbacks and are on tetherhooks from one episode to the next waiting to see how they'll overcome the obstacles thrown in their way. Another huge difference is that the Koreans take sex seriously. It usually doesn't take long for western characters to jump into bed, but for Koreans the end goal of a relationship is marriage and children so that falling in love means establishing a life-long committment to one another. Even holding one another's hand is a significant sign that this is more than a friendly relationship, and it can be a scary moment when they do because it means the relationship is turning serious with all the problems it will entail. For all you busted romantics out there, I urge you to start looking at some of the many Kdramas out there. I did over a year ago and have never looked back.

[@neomatrix4412]

i like squid game

[@railroader2431]

As someone who genuinely likes love stories, it's disappointing that Hollywood's obsession with deconstruction has finally caught up to romance. They're either toxic, ignore it entirely, or are kept to the barest of minimums. What's sad is that even the Mario Movie, one of the better modern movies, sort of did this, with literally the first scene they share together being a cheap subversion of "love at first sight." And what comes after being kept to the minimum.

[@johnsmith651]

Twisters was a blatant example of this. You can tell they wanted to do a romance but felt they had to cater to what they thought were current trends and cut it all out

[@Makoto03]

Great video and completely agree. Its pathetic how Hollywood portrays romance in modern movies.

[@Mojavekight17]

Hollywood loves having the moral high ground...

[@thomasn3882]

Which is hysterically funny when you stop to think about the perverse positions that they are in favor of....

[@jacobdenton6065]

That’s OK snow white will flop

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

If Disney is smart, it will never release it and shut it down now and call it a Batgirl and reorganize the entire company's efforts.

[@Thagomizer]

Like Barbie?

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

@@Thagomizer Barbie is by all definitions an outlier.

[@jamesmary8953]

@@Thagomizer They're NOT the same thing, dude. But hey, keep on trying to convince yourself that they are. lol

[@rasalasblack]

Barbie is winning tho. It's hopeless. Now every insufferable hack thinks they can possibly make a billion with their "the message."

[@chrisaguilera1564]

It seems that Hollywood has been trying to flip gender roles, but these movies consistently perform poorly at the box office. Meanwhile, Barbie continues to rake in billions. Unless Hollywood can rid itself of this "woke virus," they will continue on this path until studios go bankrupt. The problem is that Hollywood is more concerned with projecting their own narcissism onto characters that audiences don't care about, rather than catering to the desires of the viewers.

[@nerychristian]

Barbie only made that much money because they tricked parents into thinking this would be a light hearted family film about Barbie's relationship with Ken.

[@lagopusvulpuz1571]

But Barbie is woke. They swear in the movie, the women mistreated the men (Barbies & Ken), the Kens are all in shape, but there are fat Barbies. Barbie moves to the real world where men are drawn as stupid or kinda degenerates. Ken learns about the new system & brings it to the Barbie world where everyone was happy with it, but Barbie hates it, etc. It depends on how you see the movie, but it tried to be the extremely toxic feminist. I just watched reviews & I think the writers forgot the main target audience age group.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

barbie made money because of the marketing, a lot of parents didn't know this movie was gonna be pg 13 and also barbie doesn't end up with ken cause "societal expectation of women" I guess

[@MissMedeiros]

Barbie fooled everyone with her marketing that hid the true plot of the film. If there is a "Barbie 2", the same success will not exist.

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

@@lagopusvulpuz1571 Did you watch the movie and come to this conclusion yourself, or did you absorb your opinion from online content creators?

[@jacobdenton6065]

That’s OK they deserve to lose $1 billion Dollers because if this is the death of Sinema, it’s their fault they killed it

[@sartenquemada1101]

I'm with you except for the notebook. That shit was toxic af It has become frustrating that kindness, in females, is seen as some sort of weakness. This people has no idea how hard it is to actually be kind and gentle

[@adamdavies1068]

Well said. I completely agree. The truth in the need for human beings to yearn for love and romance is everyone around us

[@gbc7416]

In degrading romance, they are degrading women and girls. The actresses involved, don't know it.

[@kaykutcher2103]

WhAt cAN poSsiBLy Go wRoNg by saying love is a weakness?

[@shinaxia7474]

A few years ago I wrote a story. where one of the characters was a delicate princess protected by a strong man. The publisher rejected, informing me that they were not interested in traditional princesses, that they were looking for something new. What new, I asked, after all Leia Oregana and Fiona already existed. Never mind. A woman nowadays in the West has no right to be delicate, feminine, needing the protection of even a professional bodyguard. Heck, I, as a woman, couldn't write a female character the way I thought she should be. The ideology was wrong. I don't understand what's wrong with a woman who doesn't want to be a soldier, doesn't want to beat up every man and wants to find love and live happily with her family.

[@martinkunz7155]

I imagine a big part of the "why" is the old saying "misery seeks company". Bitter resentful people aren't going to promote wholesome stories and happy relationships.

[@classic.cameras]

Your videos get better and better!!! Good job on this one and all the others!!!

[@Phantasma3]

It feels like with male heros, getting the romance is usually a driving force. Modern female heros seem in love with themselves.

[@Nonjola]

Well, they hate the romance between a guy and a woman.

[@shippendales8543]

I don't think they have it they just don't care bout comedy and romance films anymore But even then You'd be surprised to note that heterosexual relationships are still prioritized in most Hollywood films

[@zephyr_green9492]

Bullshit. Straight relationships are still the norm in film and pop culture. And as a gay dude I'll be the first to say that's how I think it should be. It's representative of the real world, where queer people exist, but as a minority. You look at the current state of the entertainment industry and see queerness everywhere because the baseline has shifted. We went from having basically no queer representation to having some. And that's a positive change.

[@DemonicRemption]

@@zephyr_green9492 While it's still the norm it's reviled by the butt kissers in the mainstream media. Not that they celebrate the LGBT romances any more. Hell from where I'm sitting they barely promote it. And I get it as they don't wanna scare off Christians like me or anyone else in the world who isn't LGBT nor cares for it. But still why should it matter when it appeals to people like you? Like as an entrepreneur I don't have time to go into detail on why not letting the LGBT, or other marginalized groups,(which I'm a part of being a black guy...) enjoy a great amount of exposure is idiotic. But in mulling this over it became clear all these brain-dead crap munchers is controlling what is and isn't popular. It's bullcrap, but that's why people like me gotta compete.

[@MarianaFranco1]

Thank you for this video! I’ve been telling this to all my friends, but having a hard time to put into the right words. I’m sending this to all of them!

[@PelemusMcSoy]

Two things about romance that I think the modern girlboss crowd loathes are vulnerability and depending on another person. Being vulnerable means showing (more) emotion, uncertainty, and (dare I say) a form of weakness, something you would normally reserve for only the people closest to you. Leaders need to be stoic, act with certainty, and appear strong to those around them, yes, but when in the company of just their romantic partner, they feel safe enough to open up because they know it won't ruin their image or reputation, and they'll receive comfort and honest feedback. As a result, they depend on their romantic partner to help them through these dark times. The girlboss doesn't like this because they think being strong means 100% stoic, aggressive, and depending on no one but herself. She doesn't _need_ anyone else. The irony being is that many stories have been about getting the stoic and aggressive man who depends on no one but himself to open up and accept help and comfort from others (like Beauty and the Beast).

[@foreignparticle1320]

I just saw a charming new Finnish film called "Fallen Leaves". It was like inhaling a lungful of fresh air after being in a stifling, smoky room. A love story between two heterosexual working class people, where politics and ideology are nothing more than a background blur. The single most relatable film I've watched for years, and best of all, under 90 minutes long. If you can cope with subtitles and wry Finnish humour, I highly recommend it as an antidote to the insipid goo of modern mainstream cinema.

[@dejathoris4890]

I think you're right about romance and complete understand your point , thank for talking out on this video, we need more romance now more than ever and friendship 😊

[@Pauletorr]

I'm not female but I think that sometimes women want to be rescued by a handsome Prince..am I wrong

[@PTX_THEVAMPS]

No your not I'm a girl and I Agree with you

[@the1magageneral323]

The only romance modern hollywood allows is rainbow alphabet ones even if there's no story there for it all to pander to woke women on twitter. And those films bomb.

[@davidpothin5544]

Really dig your channel, as a dude you really boil down all this madness for me, ta much.

[@nerdword07]

Glad to hear it

[@suzygirl1843]

​@@nerdword07Have you been loving under a rock? Modern Hollywood has opened up the romance genre to more than Hetero WHITE pairings. I think Equality feels like oppression to whote people because they still have tonnes of romance movies coming out: Puppy Love, upcoming Blair Lively movie, The Dummer I turned Pretty. You just don't like diverse representation

[@AnthonyPompa]

I just wish that politics weren't injected into everything. Not everything needs to make a political statement. People should be able to escape when enjoying entertainment. Take the 2000s Spider-man trilogy, it's lessons and themes were for everybody. It felt a lot more human rather than something spit out to check a list off. Maybe not as much with the 3rd one lol. The lack of new stories that everyone can enjoy plays a big part in killing the perception of creativity and enjoyability in Hollywood. Even classic comedies are all pretty much gone these days. They're perceived as too "risky." Crazy stuff man.

[@jacobj3933]

The problem of it being political is because it's an intentional action being done to change the minds of people over what ought to be considered the societal norm, or normal. They WANT people to forget about legitimate femininity and masculinity, in favor of this grotesque slop, because to the people behind these actions, these are remnants of a period in human history they want gone. You really can't hope for something not to be political when you yourself have issues with the blatant attempts at trying to force the norms of society to change to what suits the ideological ideals of the people behind these actions.

[@kathyp1563]

Not everything...but when it is, it should be done with finesse. These people are suppose to be creatives.

[@AnthonyPompa]

@@kathyp1563 Exactly. If you look at older movies and shows, they had much smarter ways of getting the point across without being as preachy. There was definitely more quality in the writing.

[@Linklex7]

It’s not that they hate romance. They hate straight romance. If it’s two people of the same gender, especially women, Hollywood has no problem shipping them.

[@itznotdatserious99]

I really enjoy your take on this topic! Very good video!

[@lucid5017]

What is think is hilarious is that the people writing these characters seem to think that independence, power and leadership cannot go hand and hand with love and femininity. I am amateur writer at best but even I know that a women who has a high position in a chain of command can be powerful in her own right and still return home to be a caring wife or mother. It’s not black and white. Just some examples from the people I know: My mom is a director for a large pharmaceutical company but she still takes the time to get her hair done, get her nails done, go on dates with me dad and have mother daughter days with me. She is serious and stern at work but kind and caring at home, and vis versa. My friend works two jobs to support herself, she gets up at early times of the day and returns home much later yet she still does it everyday. She is independent and hardworking but does it all so she can buy a house and have a family with her fiancé. I’m not saying every women is the same in fact the complete opposite. Some women could care less about work and independence, some stay at home, or never work or never strive to be anything than what they already are. Some spend hours, days, weeks, months or years to achieve their goals. Some are ceos, some are bakers, some are teachers, some are scientists. You can never define a person by their gender, a singular trait. Everyone is usually a bit of everything. Edit: Alright rant over, sorry for how long this is lol

[@docblade3270]

I am writing a story, just published the first chapter, and, even if is an scyfi, action, adventure, i DON'T SEE HOW keep a story without romance, just make it dry and unreal, and your characters became artificial and shallow, without any humanity, beside, EVERYONE wants to love and be loved!(P.S: i am a guy)

[@movieedge7370]

So many women hating men out there in Hollywood it’s pathetic but if men did it we would never hear the end of it

[@caldwellkelley3084]

Thanks for the interesting and thought provoking analysis! As a lifelong movie fan it's sad they are so terrible now!

[@kiasax2]

It's nice to hear these ideas being told by a younger person. Bravo! What is wrong with being chivalrous? Or being polite? Or ROMANCE? Or being monogamous? I'm a guy and I am the first two, enjoy the third, with my wife, and am absolutely monogamous with out being told to be. Iam simply because I respect our vows and my wife, and I love my wife.

[@daybertimagni4841]

The only way to beat this is with our wallets - and not support these projects financially. Tricky, when Barbie makes a billion… but, one step at a time.

[@fitthickchic6732]

Having a woman be in a relationship implies some kind of domesticity. What if she gets pregnant? She'd have to stop or curtail the fighting and be a mom. Xena got pregnant and abandoned her child. I think Disney has some strange issues with women of color esp black women being princesses. Lately, Ive noticed that the more diverse the cast is the less likely there will be marriage or romance. King Tchallah didn't marry the mother of his children. Black Ariel doesnt marry Prince Eric, and Snow Brown probably wont have a love interest. I know there are a few exceptions in the past, but I feel like when main characters were white women, they made sure those women got married, got the Prince, or what not. Black women are baby mamas and situationships.

[@nerychristian]

You are correct. I am a hispanic male. But I realized that Disney was "truly racist". I saw that Princess and the Frog movie in the theatre. And I couldn't believe how poorly they treated the main character. First, they chose not to make her a real princess. Then they turned her into a frog for half the movie. They have never done that with any other Disney princess. Then the man in the movie who is supposed to want Tiana, turns out to be a nobody. He is not a real prince either. He is a sleaze-bag, a player, and a con man. Hollywood claims to love minorities, but won't give minorities good characters in movies. They are usually made the comic relief of the movie.

[@lagopusvulpuz1571]

Not true, it's a modern mentality, it's not linked to race. In "Peter Pan & Wendy" movie, there's a scene where Wendy said "happy thought", visualizing herself as expending all her life studying & working & dying alone. She also didn't like boys throughout the movie & imagined herself as graduation from an all female school. The actress was a white girl. Disney also owns Marvel & Stars War where the female characters are Mary Sues & are arrogant like Captain Marvel.

[@fitthickchic6732]

@@nerychristian Facts. In the og Little Mermaid, they made sure Ursula didn't turn Ariel into one of those creatures.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

@@nerychristian this just proves hollywood only cares about $$$ and not minorities (as minority speaking myself I don't think they have to but they pander a lot how much they care about race, sexual orientation etc) I still love princess and the frog but Tiana deserved better😭

[@AnthonyGladbach]

@@nerychristian Um... Navene is STILL a Prince... His parents just cut off his allowance because he was irresponsible and a party boy... He is still very much 100% legitimate... But actually... Making Tiana a workaholic and turning her into a frog for half the movie... Yeah that's bad... You want to know what's worse...? Poverty and Nazi's... Okay check it... Tiana at the end of the movie... Gets her Restaurant... in 1920... 8 Years later the Stock Market Crashes and the Great Depression happens... Even IF Tiana would somehow be capable enough to survive a self made restaurant in Great Depression New Orleans she STILL wouldn't get the chance to because there is no way Navene's parents would allow the Crown Prince of the goddamn nation to live in an Impoverished nation so they would FORCE them to move home... Now the Great Depression ends in 1939... So Tiana only has to wait a decade out right...? Hitler invades Poland in 1939... And Tiana is actually in a country around Greece... Tiana's life is going to be utterly miserable because no one writing the movie ever opened a fucking history book...

[@thomasn3882]

This ugly phenomenon carries over into the sports world as well. I was both struck and sickened by the ugly poster that was plastered all over the internet of the US women's soccer team in advance of the game that they lost today. All of the most opinionated, big shot players on Team USA were posed with their arms crossed, and with menacing scowls on their faces. The looks on their faces were revolting - as if they were on their way to a gang fight; instead of a mere soccer game. Granted, that takes place in men's sports all the time too. Nothing ever gets better in this area, we just go further and further downward.

[@mk_wizard]

This is why Ever After is the best progressive Cinderella story there is. In this version, the Cinderella MC is a badass and a fighter, but she is still feminine, classy and falls very much in love with the prince who in return falls in love with her and respects her as a person.

[@thecloudtherapist]

The worst thing about Hollywood writing today and the people doing the writing is that it's no more than an angry tirade against 'the established Norms of society'. It's a rebellion, a backlash. But it's nothing more than that. It has nothing to say, nothing new that we don't already know and (largely) either accept or 'tolerate'. It turns what's there upside down and offers up a twisted version of the original narrative but it itself has nothing to offer; no new revelation about how we should treat others or how men and women should be with each other or how we treat those weaker than us and have no voice or anything remotely educational or useful. It's just a vandalism!

[@georgekanyoni8029]

Another great video. Thanks for breaking this down so well. I hope Hollywood realizes that Romance is an integral part of human life and they integrate it into future movies as they have before they went full-on activists with recent movies.

[@charlescaulkins8306]

Apparently we are in a dark dork age where all the people want to message and shove in our faces that women are the best ever and that men are lesser beneath them. The Barbie movie is no exception, but it goes so hard on these feminist values that it kinda circles back to unintentional satire exposing these problems, at least according to another KZbinr I’ve watched. Glad there is still someone rational in this age of mediocrity though, as your video here was well made.

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

"at least according to another KZbinr I've watched" 🤦🤦

[@jplopp7388]

When you get a good love story, you get the opening of UP. You get Hal and Lois constantly dealing with their sons and still madly in love with eachother. You get Loyd holding a boombox over his head, playing Peter Gabriel to get the attention of Diane. Each character is very different and quite memorable.

[@gcooper642]

I was going upvote good examples up until Lloyd. He is absolutely not what young women should be looking for.

[@Barot8]

It's really presents a series of bad toxic lessons for young kids. It's irresponsible. What's worse is there is no real creativity. It's about shouting angry before the film is released then shouting angry that the audience doesn't get it or stating it's beyond them. Whoever hired these writer/directors didn't realize that passionate filmmakers make the best films whereas these people make the worst films. It will drive away the film audience until they are fired. As much as I don't like James Cameron, nor Titanic, he needs to make another Titanic like movie romance to break this cycle of toxic filmmakers. We are in the era of films to be forgotten, and purged from our memory as the self indulgent crap that they were, that represent nobody except for some angry and toxic twitter users who got hired to make films and tv. Nobody will talk about this era in fondness. It'll be the creative bankruptcy that happened where all we got was junk and maybe one rare gem among thousands of films. Disney has forgotten how to make a good film. All they push out is garbage propaganda. Like a vampire leech, they suck the joy out of any of their early works and trash them so nobody wants to see the remakes. It doesn't help that all the characters are narcissists, only in love with themselves.

[@suzygirl1843]

You're selective. There plenty of Conservative Romance movies. You just hate diversity

[@JeromeBellon]

Seriously, I don't mind some movies without romance. That's not something I want in every single movies. For example, romance gives super-heroes a degree of humanity that lets us connect with them. But it is not absolutely necessary in a movie that is a tightly-timed race for a McGuffin that will destroy the world. However, the recent trend is an outright display of disdain for romance. And that is disturbing. No need for feelings or humanity. Just raw power, cold leadership and ruthlessness. All the traits that have built up decades of toxic masculinity are now the hallmarks of Hollywood "femininity". (But "it's ok when women do it", or something.) Moreover, we are forbidden from criticizing it because "sexism". We can't call out the new brand of "toxic femininity", or simply unrelatable characters, because these are our new female models, and we're supposed to like them. Somehow. And dissenting voices are just angry men who want their male super-hero dominance. When you can't justify your actions and are unwilling to correct them, insult your audience. Great strategy.

[@Jayness]

I remember going to this convention (pre-covid) and sitting down to hear a panel about 'steampunk literature'. Rather than steampunk, the people there (all women) only talked about how they want more stories with no romance or "how the girl doesn't need to get the boy in the end". That was the last time I bothered to go to this convention as all the panels had become utter garbage at this point anyway and this sitting listening about "Romance bad" when I wanted to learn about "Steampunk" in literature was the straw that broke the camel's back. Also, I love a bit of romance in stories.

[@kathyp1563]

As a woman, I've always preferred the romance in sci-fi or war movies or time travel or such. In order to make a story interesting, one must have conflict. If it a modern story, they too often make the conflict a toxic relationship that somehow works out. But, if it's in a grander complex story, the conflict is already there...Then they add a bit of beauty in a terrible situation.

[@Impolitespoon18]

Crazy thing is Romance is literally one of my favorite genre’s.

[@Tubeflux]

Well done, well-researched, well-spoken video. Keep it up

[@nerdword07]

Much appreciated!

[@candicemceady308]

​@nerdword07 exactly!!! Japan actually understands that men and women need each other for survival support and love. Why do you think sooo many girls love shojo manga and anime? They love the fantasy of a guy sweeping them off their feet and carrying them off into the sunset. For guys they just want a girl who will love them wholeheartedly. Nothing wrong with that. I'm a girl BTW. Love your channel!!!

[@scottyhehehe5367]

I wonder if this recent change in Hollywood story writing has something to do in part with the youth who now get scriptwriting and storytelling jobs in Hollywood. Something like only 25% of children are now in homes with a married mother and father. Additionally, 75% of blacks, 50% of Latinos, and 25% of whites have no father at home. Throw in schools trying to teach critical race theory under the guise of "ethnic studies", and wallah...a bunch of young writers who have no real understanding of romance and love. 😢

[@rwinger2481]

To make a good Hollywood romance story work, it has to be relatable from both the male and female’s perspective. More importantly, both sides have to be flawed. Or in the case to just have the romance story be light-hearted in a comedy, it is played completely straight and sincere. Pixar’s Elemental is a brilliant character study how opposites can form a believable mutual attraction by overcoming their differences throughout the movie. Ember is short tempered and uncertain of what she wants when it comes to living under her immigrant parents’ roof all her life. Wade is more relaxed and relatable, but he is quite emotional about many things. You have plenty of time to develop their relationships as well as with their families. I wouldn’t say much but their relationship was very positive and it should make a good impression. The fad of strong, independent females (as well as toxic relationships) and rejecting men to just pawns feels like it is a Cold War (even genuine comedy is on thin ice because of stuff like MeToo and everything else people consider problematic).

[@CaulkMongler]

I definitely feel similarly in the way that in todays pop culture climate it just isn’t popular to be vulnerable, show the intimacy between lovers (or even friends/family) - there’s a kind of pathology behind how people value stoicism over the full feeling of human emotion.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

All of this talk about romance makes me long for a woman, a romantic partner, like Nerd Word herself. Someone I can get along with, pick a brain, discuss books and concepts with, learn from, grow with. If only I could be so lucky.

[@beauwalker9820]

If love is something the entertainment media demonizes now, I worry what other human emotions, morals, and values will be demonized 10 years from now in our movies, TV, books, and such...

[@SkippyLaughlin]

I just stick with period dramas, dramas and romantic shows. I don't watch these kind of movies.

[@jacobdenton6065]

I really really hate rings of power

[@albatross4920]

I'm not even a Tolkien fan and I hate that show

[@TotalTech2.]

Hollywood is just going through a phase right now just like how back in the 90's romcoms where everywhere and today superhero movies are the big thing. In time they will come back around

[@RainzzSplash]

Now I've never been a fan of romance, and I haven't seen pretty much any of the recent films or shows mentioned here, but I believe you and the other commenters here about what state they're in and it just disappoints me to no end. Putting down men doesn't empower anyone, if anything it just furthers the message that women are not strong enough on their own which is complete bs. Making women act just like stereotypical male characters just reinforces that femininity, emotional intelligence, compassion, connection, and kindness are weaknesses, which is also bs. And even if I personally am adverse to romance I can still acknowledge that it's just as important as any other kind of relationship, including a romantic aspect to your story isn't a flaw (so long as it's written well). If anything showing your characters, especially heroes or good guys, that they are able to be in a stable and healthy relationship will just add more to their character as someone with a good heart that we should cheer for. Stop making your heroes into villains and vice versa.

[@jimwilliams8819]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Casablanca. Now there's a great romance.

[@StephenRansom47]

Excellent … … that take on 50 shades, equating the relationship to beastialty was hysterical and perfect. Like the trope of a young woman and her Large Rescued Dog. Will we turn this corner? Is there a corner to turn? Keep’m Comin’

[@DickDarkie]

It's the adult version of Twilight

[@kathyp1563]

I've seen two relatively recent romance films that were decent, enough. "All the Boys I've Loved Before" (2018). It's a teen rom-com developed for Netflix, from a book. The main character is a teen--16? 17? maybe. She's feminine. she's an introvert. She has a strong family. She's incredibly romantic. She started writing love letters to her crushes back when she was 11 or 12, and keeps them. After an argument, her younger sister mails the letters. Great awkwardness abounds. She's not an introvert who suddenly knows how to act around boys. She is awkward. And she stress-bakes. "Crazy Rich Asians" (2018) -- The movie developed this similar to a classic fairytale. It's more about the relationship between fair, young maiden & the evil queen (boyfriends' mom). The boyfriend is just a writing tool to get the drama started. He doesn't really get a personality. Anything else remotely romantic in the last 10 years?

[@Femmeaesthetic]

in the ending of the notebook it clearly shows the realistic side of relationships about commitment which this generation has lost that sense since it's all about "what makes me happy all day or what I want or I can do what I want"

[@justacat869]

The ending is fine, but the Notebook is one of the worst romance films I've ever seen because it romanticises toxic relationships and tells people that: - if you want to ask a girl out and she refuses, just threaten to kill yourself - arguing all the time means that the relationship is passionate - it's okay to cheat on your partner if it's with the one you love - sending letters every day even when she doesn't answer you is very romantic and totally not weird and obsessive Good idea, bad example. And Lon deserved better. He was a true gentleman.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

@@justacat869 i loved the film however I agree with some of the flaws specially when he meets the girl and Allie cheats on lon, I don't think this movie tried to make it passionate when they were arguing, I think it showed that relationships are not always perfect. I think this movie was meant to be imperfect by intention. one thing you missed out about this film is Allie didn't know that Noah was sending her letters since her mother was hiding it from her.

[@justacat869]

I get that her mother hid the letters, but he didn't know that and insisted on sending them because his idea was that even when she said "no", he could turn that "no" into "yes" if he insisted long enough. The Ferris wheel scene is just manipulative and awful. I don't think any woman in real life would be okay with a guy threatening to throw himself off a building if she didn't go out with him. That would be harassment in real life, and people only accept it because the leads are both good-looking. And yes, I'm not saying every relationship should be perfect, but they never solved their conflicts in a healthy, mature manner. Not to mention that she hit him and slapped him and I don't understand that it's okay for women to hit men but when men hit women it's not. If a woman hits a man in real life, then she should be prepared that the man could hit her back. Violence is not okay, regardless of gender. I'm not against flawed relationships, but having grown up in a dysfunctional family myself, it baffles me how their behaviour is seen as romantic. I don't see how my father yelling or throwing stuff at my mother is a sign that he loves her. This movie tells impressionable young women that this behaviour is acceptable and they may end up in abusive relationships themselves because they think this is normal and a sign of a passionate relationship.

[@fredkeeler1234]

The Little Mermaid remake changed the ending, having her steer the ship into the villain impaling her, rather than him because she don't need no man

[@Femmeaesthetic]

most of the things what you've been saying are the same what I've been thinking for few years, as a romance genre fan myself it's disappointing and unexpected how romance now days has gotten so bad either with "s3x addition" or messy plot wholes. There have been a lot of sh*tty chemistry romance between two character in movies like, 365 days 🤮(at least fifty shades wasn't worse than this), after, kissing booth, all the boys I loved before sequel, euphoria, the idol etc etc I could go on. It's sad how romance has lost it's charm and sensual chemistry between two characters.

[@LetThatStuffGo]

At least, there are plenty of Hallmark movies. Who doesn't want to see Lacey Chabert in more of her Hallmark roles? YEAH! 😇

[@dr.medieval1131]

All old norms must be torn down and destroyed. That includes love itself.

[@waltermelon12]

Hey love the vids, u should do one about the terrible relationships between children and parents in movies, and how hollyweird makes it seem like all kids hate their parents

[@0ptic0p22]

you guys remember there existed a species called women MEN ARE SOOOOOO AWESOME, EVERY WOMEN IS TRYING TO BE US TOOOO EZZ

[@LisaMariavanHarmelen]

All I want in life is love and I don’t care about a career when I can’t have that. I think many women feel that way. Hollywood should embrace what women are and not turn them into female men.

[@arunmahabier8447]

Just looking at Marvel, all the male heroes had romantic interests in their movies. None of the new female heroes have that in their movies or tv series.

[@jacobdenton6065]

Yes 2015 cinderella i love

[@paulhyland7456]

Very well put.

[@firstsonofthesea7938]

They literally destroyed Robin with that Teen Titans go crap turned a strong leader into a clown with no respect

[@CorleoneAk]

Brilliant video. 👏

[@jacobdenton6065]

Lois and Clark had a Better romance and so did catwomen and batman

[@dbsmgmt5354]

A story without a romance is like an engine with no fuel to me. And I am a man.

[@dnastri]

Well said! I miss the old romcoms.

[@cjphillips90]

Thank you for the video. Commenting for the Algorithm.

[@reinor-m1m]

the only thing keeping me alive is Lumity and Huntillow of the owl house than there's sprivy and Sashannarcy of amphibia keeping me happy with romance

[@jacobdenton6065]

This why the strikes are happening in write this shit. Let the strike go on forever.

[@shannonmcelroy8454]

I'm not going to say if it's one of the most intended reasons, but one theory I do have is regarding the #metoo movement. I know it's been confirmed to be the reason behind downplaying the romances in The Little Mermaid and Snow White because the writers were afraid those relationships supposedly supported kissing without consent even though it's not true. It's also a possibility that having more recent heroines use casual sex as a source of empowerment is meant to be a vehicle for revenge fantasy against men who do the very same thing and feel attraction in general.

[@quatore-5886]

I love your videos and you should have a million subs. The whole of agenda is anti-family and therefore anti-human. People are starting to figure it out. You and Baggage claim seem to really understand it.

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

What's wrong with anti family

[@bivekhunjan2888]

Well said!! Fab video!!

[@gcooper642]

I wish I'd had successful, happy, single role models to look up to when i was younger. I probably wouldn't have wasted so much time and been so unfulfilled because i couldn't find anyone in my 20s. Though I probably would have consumed media like this and made myself more miserable. I like that we are having a shift away from romance. I'm sad that a lot of the female characters are snippy, rude and badly written. We never seem to have balance in society. Its sad.

[@darricksulfridge2574]

love is the best thing ever. that the problem with the world 🌎 to much hate where the love.

[@themerchantofpueblo]

When you wanna write romance in a story you create this dynamic in between the two characters in order to lead them into a relationship without losing logic and you can keep adding emotions during these time in order for a better pay off but modern Hollywood doesn’t like dynamics nor having a character need another soul or just any needs at all so it just won’t work man it requires story telling but Hollywood won’t bother and we know it. P.s. plus most modern writers have never had a successful relationship or so it seems cause writing a love letter is easier than a script but they always miss it man they always do😂 and yeah I’m sure “female friendship” has never been toxic am I right girls?😂 god this disaster is hilarious

[@jacobdenton6065]

They will make a comeback

[@anonymoustroll2432]

I didnt know that Zendaya was also a Mary Sue.

[@humbertocroce1424]

I am with You on all points and Mindset, I'm an INFJ etc . . but, correct me if I am wrong here . . I thought the point of any good story ( Book, Comicbook, Mimi Series, Movie of the week, Movies, Films, even Blockbusters, were written with morals to in a way pass them along, bravery ( which is fearing something or another but still doing it, what about the Hero with Righteousness keeping Him or Her Honest, for the Good of Goodness sake, the underdog giving it all and more even if He or She is about to drop and winning just barely to inspire US and teach US that anything can be accomplished with the right state of mind and determination, practice makes perfect, You know what I am getting at . . goddamnit . . well but as a man greatter than me one said " .. In the absence of LIGHT, darkness prevails .. " BLESSINGS to YOU and lots of LOVE . . 😎

[@TF2Fan101]

Has anyone seen My Adventures with Superman? Because that show is the antithesis to everything in this video.

[@timberwolf4698]

Talk about the over use of CGI.

[@movieedge7370]

The Snow White movie is just a joke at this point . 😂 in my opinion, Rachel Ziegler and Phoebe Waller Bridge should be blacklisted from Hollywood.