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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@gabrielraveleau1798]

Love your vids man keep it up !

[@trumanhw]

excellent video.

[@StEvEn-dp1ri]

You should've gone vertical again. You were doing that the entire engagement and then you didn't. I know it was in it's second burn phase, but a vertical recommit probably would have defeated it. I'm just brooding over the jump scare, that I was not expecting.

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-15EX with AIM-260's VS The MIG-31 with R-37M's! Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM!

[@violet4576]

a cool video would be F22 and YF23 vs SU57 and J20

[@arrtemfly]

someone needs to count what % of those "we probably beat the missile" at the end of the video end up in a shot down 😁😁

[@nicholaswilson9724]

If GS says his opponent's missile is very dangerous AND then says "I think I'm safe/beat the missile", you know the screen is about to go black ;)

[@firebald2915]

The mutual kill view from the mig crash site...

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

You mean the missiles with confidence seeking technology?

[@vandasaragosa]

​@@nicholaswilson9724agree 😂 his self confident kill him many times, but I love him 😂

[@srellison561]

That's actually the first time one of his KIAs made me jump.

[@PapaPilot88]

First jump scare of 2024 😂

[@michealnyers184]

I swear I jumped out of my seat haha

[@jameswilliams1085]

Totally!!!! Hahahahaha

[@TJ_Loves2fish]

Almost made me fall off my treadmill😂

[@wolfofmagdalene92]

Ikr! I swear it always gets me the first time when GS is like "Yeah we should be good I think we lost -tra-..."

[@chrispowell6992]

Same!!! Scared the livin 💩 out of me! 😅

[@Fatallydisorganized]

That death jump scared me so hard.

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

😆🤟

[@RAZEE77]

I broke my chair

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

@@RAZEE77 😆

[@JohnQuePublic903]

I unintentionally threw my mouse.

[@highlander723]

9:39 "You hear the silence of the RWR so it's probably lost track"..... DO'H

[@itz_joyyy]

Rwr to GS : I'm not beeping cause it's too late for you bud to give a beeping sound RIP 😂😂

[@fdel7032]

RWR praying in silence.

[@SSFFRRJJ]

@@itz_joyyy😂😂

[@teddyballgame4823]

The reason why the 4.5g overload limit is imposed is only for safety. The reason is that the MiG-25 could lose control and possibly enter a flat spin if it pulled more than 4.5g because the wingtips used to flex 70 cm from their original position at 5g+ caused aileron reversal.

[@Utubesuperstar]

So it can’t pull more than 4.5 G’s……….

[@speedfiend74]

@@Utubesuperstar smfh...it can but there is a risk.

[@sixdegrees6434]

What’s the point you’re trying to make? The reason ANY aircraft has a g limit is for safety. Either the pilot blacks out or the wings fall off

[@noname_exe]

@@Utubesuperstar one mig-25 pulled more than 11 once.obviously it got scrapped but the 4.5g limit isn't some hard imposed limit by jesus himself or smth. It can pull more if the situation demands it. Still dogshit at dogfights tho tbf

[@challenger2205]

Dude, that’s like more than 180 tons of force pushing onto the wing spines. What kind of steel did they use to make that thing……

[@intothewoods7649]

GrowlingSidewinder: I think I lost track let's chaff flares and swing side to side to defend. R77 MISSILE: THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS THE MISSILE KNOOOOOWS WHERE IT ISS

[@algroyp3r]

>posted it again award

[@martigamez6732]

Interesting to see how the missile conveniently starts its engine again when it loses energy nearby the moving target

[@sebastiaomendonca1477]

Thats why the double motor thing is so deadly

[@90whatever]

Our new AIM 260 will have that feature as well

[@Trades46]

The Chinese PL15 does this. Probably why it outranges the AIM-120D and so scary.

[@adrianwilliams8278]

Them R77M's😅

[@Godsjudgement12]

russian wunderwaffe

[@The_Ren]

I’m always amazed at how much that little single engine F-16 can carry and still do solid work.

[@chrisbird1052]

Not very little, the engine takes the up the entire back half of the fuselage and it's about 4ft in diameter, but yes very impressive the thrust that thing puts out

[@murph3194]

Man the R77 variant is scary. And I assure you all I'm not a hater but it always makes me laugh when we hear "ok I think we're safe from that missile so I'm going to..." BLAM! lol Great vid as always.

[@HypoceeYT]

That last shot with the zoom/dolly to eventually bring in the missile was so well-paced and such a cute piece of cinematography. I expect to see it in a sci-fi movie or show someday.

[@jimkenealy6448]

Bingo shot! so cool to see the AMRAM creep into view top corner bearing down on Foxbat - chops to the video editor for that sequence.

[@nercksrule]

The Expanse has several scenes of space combat where the camera follows the torpedoes all the way to the target.

[@McRogson]

I would love to see you fly the Mig 25, modernised or original, see how you go about it.

[@dgfgts]

That last R77M: "So you think you're outrunning me?"

[@coastiebrian2024]

A MIG-25 did shoot down a F/A-18 on the 1st night of Desert Storm. Other pilots saw the MIG and requested permission to engage, but the E-3 AWACS operator denied the request, so they left it alone, only to lose a fellow pilot.

[@sexyitalian891]

By the way you word it, it sounds a lot like you're saying the only reason it shot the F18 down was because of the Awacs operator. I don't know why Americans go to such lengths to blame everything else in order to save the illusion that their equipment is the best and the most special.

[@stark5353]

​@@sexyitalian891 Nobody is claiming that the equipment is special tho. In this case a loss could have been prevented if ROE allowed the mig to be killed sooner.

[@Gesso64]

@@sexyitalian891 Im not american but no where else in the world does over a trillion dollars go into the military.

[@Utubesuperstar]

@@sexyitalian891umm it is the 18 had a clear shot and the 25 capitalized on it having to wait…..

[@traviswalker8933]

​@@Gesso64a lot of countries in the world allocate a large portion of their budget to the military. Just because spending is high, does not mean equipment will be great.

[@kosher4418]

For a foxbat, it would be best to perform a U-turn with a climb of speed, rather than descending to the ground

[@Digi20]

Not really in most situations. The F-16 (and many other jets) easily outperform the Mig-25 in terms of thrust/weight and initial climbing ability, and you dont climb with them either. Its almost always better tu run the missile out of energy in denser lower air.

[@somubhai5882]

Well its good bcz those rocket engines of foxbat can really put some huge thrust on but its not always good

[@danielberger1378]

As Digi20 already said, you should always go lower and drive the missile into denser air. The only thing you would "achieve" with an initial climb is decreasing your own energy and allowing the missile to keep its own energy up. The saying "go up to blow up" doesn't come from nowhere

[@davidsapir3764]

I hit "like" before I even start watching, this is such incredible content. Thanks GS.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate you brother much love.

[@cs512tr]

that R77 hunted you down like it was attached to a wire lol brilliant

[@assidragon]

I'm a little amazed how handicapped the US fighters seem to be by their missiles. Meteor or the modern russian/chinese ones just seem more lethal at longer ranges than the AIM120.

[@icaleinns6233]

that's why the AIM-260 is being developed. Not sure how close it is to a production status, but it should be on par with the Meteor and R-77M.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

Slavic and Chinese missiles don’t actually work and they’re meant to be launched from planes that don’t actually fly 😂

[@seniorspaz8754]

@@icaleinns6233While we likely won’t know for sure until they’re actually in deployment, the 260 is meant to already be in production.

[@LooxJJ]

@@icaleinns6233 We do not have full information on the AIM-120C~D yet. They are all classified. Data out in public are all estimates. But do assume that they are few levels above Russians counterparts (way more investment into R&D and access to much better tech and production).

[@jacobdoolan4978]

@@LooxJJfrom what I understand there underpowered in range but better in track

[@molokofreak]

0:55 nice carpet

[@PvtPartzz]

Did kinda look like a fur rug

[@jamesh6406]

Ok you've mentioned it twice. We need a Mig-25 Vs F5 vid.

[@barnhaardkraft875]

10:01 You forgot to set a Obi Wan "Hello There" by the Missile! 😁

[@terryritter7065]

The last scene of the Foxbat hitting the ground and the smoke trail of the Viper in the distance was a nice touch.

[@coz6908]

Love the dedication. Even in death, he's still popping chaff and flares as his F-16 goes down in flames.

[@terrabolista]

So yeah, at this point whenever GS says "Okay, i think we defeated that missile", 100% the missile is going boom on this tail within 2 seconds. Great vid as always

[@DDayJayke]

Congrats GS. This is the first time that explosion effect you do, made me jump. I was not expecting that. Kudos

[@wildifin]

Everytime you say that "we probably beat the missile" it gets you 😂

[@wurfyy]

I suspect he sometimes says it when he doesn't really believe it, just for this purpose. In this case the RWR didn't shut up, that's just how the F-16s RWR sounds, one warning every 10 or 15 seconds or something like that. I would imagine he knew that, and he knew he was about to be hit, so he just decided to have a little fun with that.

[@octopus92]

That Russia's missile final thrust when approaching and closing the target is so dangerous. 😥😥😳

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Meteor/AIM-260 does it better

[@No1harris_98]

I honestly love the Foxbat and similar aircraft like it.

[@Anarchy_420]

Idea for an interesting fight! You in The SU-30SM with R-27EA's VS The SU-35S with R-77M's!🙏👍

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The MIG-29K VS The SU-33 guns only!

[@rockstar11627]

This channel is quickly becoming my favourite youtube channel

[@th0rn3]

dude i fucking JUMPED at the end

[@johnbrowning9753]

Got me again, should always be expecting the jump scare.

[@joelfrantz3189]

Those R-77 missiles are freaking terrifying 🤯

[@jmtpolitico80]

I kinda figured it was going to go one to one. At least you didn't lose! You tied! lol! Great flying though as usual...

[@Lopezs777]

GS, I’d love to see you flying a MiG 25 in a video. It’s my all time fav Soviet jet 😎

[@Michael_Michaels]

9:39 Damn! That ending scared the shit out of me!!!

[@KonuralpBalcik]

Tumansky R-15 engines are not for flying at low altitude, you fight with MIG 25 at 65000 ft and you will see what kind of overwhelming superiority MIG 25 will establish. And the MIG 25 was actually designed to be a space plane, its highest untested altitude is thought to be 120000 ft.

[@knightonwarbeck1969]

Ages ago I read the absolute level flight (ceiling) is/was 90,000ft. And agreed: this was a VERY poorly flown Foxbat.

[@HypoceeYT]

The 25 pilot got to choose his altitude and already enjoyed a significant range advantage, so whatever. And this fighter-on-fighter stuff is just messing around in a sim, it was made to intercept nuclear bombers, not establish air superiority.

[@guccidan2026]

Go back to warbird content if you can. Or warbird vs early jets. Those were always interesting!

[@horusfalcon]

Interesting outcome here. Looks kinda like, "Enter the MAR and dead you are!"

[@Matisaro]

Another one for the "I made it BOOM" reel!

[@Tommygunn776]

It, in fact, did not loose track

[@kangarutan1915]

I sxwear, those "I think I'm clear" missile kills always make me jump! Better than a horror flic!

[@tomsthomas1139]

Happy to see real life weapons are starting to resemble their Saturday morning cartoon counterparts in capability.

[@Hg_.karting.]

"i think it lost track." famous last words

[@MedEighty]

09:35 As soon as he said that, I thought "oh, you just jinxed yourself".

[@verfugbarkite]

Love the way he includes his prophetic last words- very humble of him.

[@geeno_ms5233]

holy shit i eated the first jump scare of 2024 with that R-77M, also the R-77M: "i know where i am at all times"

[@meteorknight999]

There will never be a coolest looking jet whose body screams power than Mig25 those vents that wingsize those engines muah

[@hippoace]

its basically a flying muscle car lol

[@user-ws5zu8jt8c]

Man this was such a good video. I've been struggling a lot with trying to hone my BVR tactics and something about this just made it click for me. I'm still bad (I was going to use another word but I think it's censored), but I feel like now I'm making better calls on when to commit and when to go defensive and my 50/50 is inching up steadily. Much appreciation. Or I think it's this: starting to take more into consideration what my action forces the opponent to do. And taking into consideration what the opponent wants me to do with their shots. Something just caused a substantial upwards turn in my success rate. I still get shot down all the time, but, after being on a plateau, now it's getting better.

[@rElliot09]

Never read anything about an Eagle almost being downed by a MiG-25 in 91. There was the Hornet loss to a Foxbat and in 1982, a MiG-21 nailed an F-15A with an Atoll but the Eagle made it back to fly again.

[@Mike_Romeo]

Read up the Samurra air battle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurra_Air_Battle

[@AnuViation]

Genuinely jumped in my chair when you got hit mid sentence.

[@darksidetize5183]

Holy shit that missile scared the piss out of me lmao Literally jumped 😂

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

No tumble weeds were harmed in the filming of the drop tanks in this video 😂

[@guitarfan01]

Those missiles with second booster phases are absolutely deadly! Really hope USAF tacticians are working hard and not assuming that everything that worked in Iraq will work in the future.

[@Frost_x_NB]

The jump scare was crazy 😭😂 felt like I almost died

[@aaardvaaark]

I almost jumped out of my own skin when that missile hit.

[@Stant123]

It's good to see that even though it's a new year, some things haven't changed. RIP GS.

[@Cornography1996]

I appreciate the Sioux City Iowa ANG markings on that Viper!

[@SSFFRRJJ]

Thanks for the jumpscare

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

Wouldn't a modernized MIG-25 just be a MIG-31?

[@NikeaTiber]

I think it would depend on the total amount of "modernizations"

[@Ewan_Gaming]

They have different fuselages, mass, thrust-to-weight ratio, avionics, iff, radar, max speed and more. Mig25 is single-sit. Mig31 is double-sit. The USSR could not simply modernize the Mig25, because it was stolen by a traitor and fell into the hands of the United States. The USSR had to make a new interceptor. But it based on mig25. Mig31 is the first Soviet 4th gen fighter.

[@push3kpro]

@@Ewan_Gaming "traitor" Actually Беленко just wanted to go out from CCCP since childhood. Refugee or deserter who runaway not secret spy. Do not close your borders if you don't want accidents like that.

[@ferrous3262]

@@Ewan_Gamingvehicles being captured hasn't stopped Russia from upgrading them. su35 t72 mig29 and various other things have been updated even though us had their handnds on it

[@ferrous3262]

@@push3kpro he's still a traitor

[@Shadowolf24]

Hey can you do a F-22 Squadron versus a SU-57 Squadron

[@Mike_Romeo]

He already did a 100 F-22 vs 100 Su-57 video

[@Shadowolf24]

@Mike_Romeo oh I had no idea thank you

[@LifeChanger_._]

9:39 - Damn! 11:00 - Cool!

[@justinabaya6622]

I watch these on the elliptical and those scare the F outta me every time lol

[@mortenBP]

GOD damn it, Maverick ! The jumpscare every friggin time... and I should know that confidence line is a MF heads-up warning of what is about to happen.

[@Takyodor2]

"I think we beat it" 🚀🎆🔥 🤣🤣🤣

[@rougelemon7587]

"We beat it, cause of the silence of the RWR" famous last words and also a jump scare almost made me choke on my food yo

[@bradbullock2473]

Every time he says "I think I beat it"BAMMM!

[@m.searay4629]

That was impressive.....despite the R-77M range advantage you almost pulled it off. Nice fight.

[@bedhunter]

Last camera shot was crazy. I though it was the acustomed celebratory shot. Nobody expected the AMRAAM suddenly appearing!

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

Hot damn. Turns out those Wile-E Coyote missiles exist now.

[@XelaFrxsty]

Love your vids bro keep up the great work

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

GS: you can hear the silence of the rwr, that means its list track I think Me: *turns volume down*

[@chrish3662]

At the end I actually went "ooooooh!" 😂

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

MiG-25 (and 31) are missile trucks. Maneuverability is poor on them, so if you get close to them in pretty much anything that has a shred of agility, they are done for

[@nasafan23dl44]

Can you please try the F-14 vs the Mig-25 next?

[@basicforge]

Great video. Maybe if you had simply climbed and turned around at that last moment the missile would not have been able to follow you. But hindsight is 20/20.

[@SplashJohn]

Yep, hindsight. With the missile being that close, continuing the turn and climbing probably would have made it miss. But if the missile had still been a mile or two away, it could have cut the corner and killed him.

[@cgilleybsw]

2:40 - do da doo dah - think Jeopardy :)

[@BlyGuy]

That missile chase was nuts

[@shehanp66]

" i think we beat it " i knew it was gonna hit when he said that

[@michagysin3082]

You could have given the f16 at least the aim 120 c7.

[@esbuenodun]

Literally yelped when he got hit. That's a scary missle man.

[@theamericancommie727]

Day 1 of asking for An F-15C vs Eurofighter video would be interesting with Aim-120Ds and ECM. Videos like this makes me wonder what would happen if we used modern AMRAAMs and actually use Jamming EW to fight long range missiles

[@1badjesus]

10:55 🫡 ...WHO ELSE was "F-YEAH" as amraam entered frame?? 😆

[@worldbreaker1023]

Scenematic tank drop! Well done

[@L0u1z]

famous GS last words "i think be beat it" missile: hold my beer

[@Robert-cd5zr]

Do you have a video that explains all the RWR sounds?

[@Mike_Romeo]

There are plenty other youtubers that have already done that

[@user-vp7kk5vf1v]

Great mission design; very informative and entertaining.

[@benrichey2593]

Even though I brace myself every time GS says something like that, I still jumped 😂

[@modernhereticnw]

You could see the missile shadow on the ground a few seconds before the KIA. 😅

[@Funkbass1986]

First booster's name is Masha (Mary), and the second booster's name is Sasha (Alexander)

[@hubble37]

Wow, I didn't expect the final result of a mutual kill! Oh man being a fighter pilot can sometimes be bad news!

[@natedetailscars]

"It's cool I think we're safe n..." 💥

[@KH-wv7po]

Missile - 2,923 "I think I beat the missile" - 4

[@surfmanfish]

Ah, those famous last words. 😆

[@toaninh9120]

damn that double motor is scary af

[@michaelmatthews1127]

that R77M is a real hummdinger

[@robertanthonybermudez5545]

i never had a real jump scare in years

[@guidohorvall1484]

Seems like a fair trade.... I really thought you beat that missle....

[@R4p70r26]

"it probably lost track i think" famous last words GG

[@quasimondo1933]

Didn't jump, my bones told me it was coming...