Are The Distractions Of Modern Life Stealing Your Purpose? - Mike Thurston

Mike Thurston is a podcaster, KZbinr and a fitness model.
Me and Mike went to university together 15 years ago. Even though we were odd, awkward creatures, there was no pressure to get our life together. In 2023, it seems like there is much more pressure on both men and women to sort it out. What's changed, and why is life more confusing than ever before?
Expect to learn why Mike wants Derek from More Plates More Dates to test him for steroids, why going to university wasn't a waste of time, why Mike stopped drinking alcohol, what he thinks about Greg Doucette's KZbin Channel, why women are just as lost as men, the problems of masculinity in the modern world and much more...
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00:00 Intro
01:30 How Mike Created a Platform Without the Drama
06:20 Would Mike Get Tested by Derek MPMD?
12:50 Will Jesse James Will Burn Out?
19:20 Advice for KZbin Beginners
23:14 Why Are Men Feeling Lost?
33:56 The Essence of True Masculinity
38:00 Spending Time with Andrew Tate
44:17 The Lack of Female Role Models
51:41 Mike’s Relationship with Alcohol
1:01:35 Developing New Skills
1:07:14 Why Logan & Jake Paul Seem Indestructible
1:13:41 What Mike is Doing Next
1:19:01 Where to Find Mike
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[@ChrisWillx]

Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZbin by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 How Mike Created a Platform Without the Clickbait 06:20 Would Mike Get Tested by Derek? 12:50 Why Jesse James Will Burn Out 19:20 Advice for KZbin Beginners 23:14 Why Are Men Feeling Lost? 33:56 Essence of True Masculinity 38:00 Spending Time with Andrew Tate 44:17 The Lack of Female Role Models 51:41 Mike’s Relationship with Alcohol 1:01:35 Developing New Skills 1:07:14 Why Logan & Jake Seem Indestructible 1:13:41 What Mike is Doing Next 1:19:01 Where to Find Mike

[@JamesHatfield49]

Loving your content Chris! You're the real beauty! 😁

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

Beauties? Ayo, pause 🤨

[@mollconn5998]

Excellent Podcast!!!

[@rjflores438]

Its funny how you touched upon Southeners in Northern Universities. They seem to take them over! They seem to all have home county accents you cant tell apart. If you cant already tell, I am a slightly disgruntled Northener!

[@Jesuswalks7475]

Both you two are Chad's, you both have completely different experiences of the world compared to normies and subfive.

[@FalcaoXTZ]

Admit it, you're brothers

[@flashback1123]

Lovers

[@BrownieJPEG]

Aw damn it I can’t unsee it now 😂

[@BananaClipz]

Racist

[@773superprguy]

No kidding 🤣 I was thinking the same thing

[@mayyamihaylova1123]

It’s crazy ahahaha

[@Denmosocial]

Mike Thurston one of the few OG influencers who has always remained a great dude

[@tawsif1999]

just like you bro

[@asparrow9876]

@@tawsif1999 lol?

[@24tommy109]

Imagine thinking an Influencer is someone to look up to. fuckin el

[@ch-yq5yn]

Nice guy, little simple in the head.

[@tawsif1999]

@@asparrow9876 your mom

[@joshuawilliams13]

Loved the conversation about alcohol. As a 20 year old in college, I can definitely say it’s REALLY hard to find people that don’t drink/ aren’t into the whole clubbing scene. This goes for people to date or that I’m just trying to be friends with.

[@agustinpulizzizondatricolo3926]

I´m with you Joshua, happens the same to me.

[@theroamingsavage8813]

If u like, i would encourage u to go out and "sow ur oats" as they say. Experience it and don't deny yourself too much of all this. Don't be the guy in his 40s regretting not partying in his 20s and then trying to act like a teenager at 45 with a toupee and a Camaro trying to pick up 19 yr olds

[@brianlong2334]

Depends were you live also, but same same in your 20s and 30s heads up.

[@garljr]

But you can, overseas lol.

[@balancer182]

Interesting, they say that in the US, Gen Z are no longer drinking as much. So it's still more or less the same in the UK?

[@TheZGALa]

lol At age 52, listening to you two talk about getting older causes me to smirk foundly, then find my reading glasses to leave you a comment. 😂

[@leekellygaming]

The biggest difference in the past 5/10 years is that information is immediately available as to what is possible and for some it is mentally crushing.

[@Incandescence555]

Bingo

[@lundi44]

Also misinformation and disinformation - and there are people who don’t have the ability to discern these from what is factual.

[@oriondye3212]

More like it takes so much time and effort to sift through what is and is not factual, most don’t bother and just listen to whatever personality they trust.

[@juniorcapilla9672]

Analysis paralysis.

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

@@lundi44 facts are not absolute truth sometimes. I see so much people claiming halft truths or even lies as "facts" whatever that means and the moment you do your own research you can dismiss the bs super fast.

[@kristofh9974]

Hey guys, YOU are the role models young men need : fit, masculine but also reflective and considerate. What a great conversation, I subscribed !

[@castellum40]

Underrated comment

[@josephbrown9685]

24:12 “I don’t think there was a sense of being lost despite the fact that there was less information out there.” This is the most profound part for me. I’m in my early 40s, and I think social media has been one of the worst things to ever happen to modern society. It makes people think the should act and feel a certain way and should have achieved certain things by certain ages just because a small percentage of random strangers have done it. It’s absurd. First of all, social media is largely fake. Virtually nothing you see online is the full reality. It’s made to look slick and presentable in the best way possible. Everyone has their own personal problems no matter how glamours it might look to viewers. I think not being able to see the whole picture has made a lot of people feel like failures. The main thing is to find what makes you happy regardless of how it looks to others. I don’t make a lot of money and live a relatively modest lifestyle, but I’m mostly content with it, and some of the most fulfilling aspects of my life are essentially free or very cheap. (Running, reading, etc.). It’s not stuff that would impress anyone, but I don’t care.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

reminds me of the old saying "ignorance is bliss"

[@saint_ofc]

Delete all Social Media from your life. You will learn 2 things. a. There is no problem on a personal level (which matters most) and you move on with your life b. you come back to it. Then you need to ask yourself why.

[@benfisher1376]

There's TOO much communication

[@mehditate]

Life hit me pretty hard. I used to live in Miami being around street violence, guns, death, and I even used to eat $3 a day, 25 cents noodles, expired toast and canned campbell tomato soup. I survived the Boston Marathon Bombing which was a few feet away and I saw all the blood the people screaming and I was alone at 18. I also used to live in a room with no kitchen, trash bag as a window and bugs crawling on me at night. I ended up moving states (from LA to Miami) and ended up working a job where I had to literally hope I don't get shot or robbed while working overnight near one of the most dangerous areas. So I ended up takin boxing to protect myself and learned how to defend against bigger threats. Now I live in a cabin in the north of Sweden where I run an online business, I go down to a lake to breathe and heal my past and I post on KZbin to help others who need it the most 💜

[@jackhubert]

That’s amazing. I hope Norway is treating you well.

[@maacckknumero2316]

Are you hiring because that sounds perfect brother 😂 Congratulations thou, give credit where credit is due

[@mehditate]

@@jackhubert Sweden is treating me really well brother. Much needed lifestyle change

[@mehditate]

@@maacckknumero2316 I just finished hiring actually haha. I appreciate it man!

[@markumoeder]

Nice bro.

[@dylan8banana]

I’m 19 and they hit the nail on the head during the why are men feeling lost section

[@michaellamont2605]

I found women so Destructive, they're just not worth my time. Thank God I found HEX. Crypto can really change the game.

Yeah right. From their apartment in Dubaï

[@Fitopoli]

It wasn't any different when I was 19. We'd had recession after recession and it felt like there were no jobs. Rich kids I knew had everything, I was poor so I had nothing. It's part of growing up. I've met super successful men who knew what they were doing at 12, I didn't. I hated school. Wasn't interested in education until years later, when it was what I was interested in. Left at 16 went to 6th form college, then left to be a studio junior in a design agency, while doing unlicensed fighting at weekends because it paid more than my salary. That eventually morphed into being a personal trainer, yet I also have two design degrees. I don't think young men are lost, they just don't have anyone to guide them in the right way. I was lucky I had multiple mentors along the way. I taught design at St Martins. They wanted to get rid of one student because he kept drawing pornographic images, and I was asked to talk to him. The conversation went like this: What's the story with the pictures? I like sex. So do I. So why are you here if you like sex so much? I just like sex. Ok I want you to become the best designer of sex toys, outfits, whatever floats your boat. Go down to soho, buy some toys, try them out with your other half and find out if they feel good/bad/terrible. Find out manufacturing processes, become an expert in what you love, be the best you can be at sex, become an expert. For both men and women. Aren't you going to kick me out? Nope. I want you to become a brilliant designer. There's nothing stopping you designing for sex, someone does it, and I think you could do it better. He went from 45% in my classes to high 90s. I just pointed him in the direction he was interested in.

[@vitorfriedrich3086]

What are you going to do about it?

[@edenbreckhouse]

Feeling lost? I suspect it's more about feeling ignored at best and despised at worst.

[@erickinzel2645]

Chris has an intellect unlike many other podcaster asks great questions

[@MijoShrek]

Oh yeah forsure. I've been here since he first started. It's that classic sharp intellect Brit with wit and able to articulate themselves very well without sounding too highbrow. The sense of curiosity.

[@michaelstein7510]

@@MijoShrek Yeah, Chris is a classic example of why you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. At first glance, many people might assume he’s just a dumb gym-bro playboy, but he’s a really funny, intelligent, and articulate person. He gets so many great guests on this podcast and asks insightful questions. So happy I stumbled into it over the past year.

[@MijoShrek]

@@michaelstein7510 Definitely, all it takes is to just listen to how someone engages in a conversation for an episode and I was with it. That s why I love podcast. Exposes you to people like Chris, who always just open to learning and gaining new knowledge and perspectives. This past year seeing it blow up was cool to see how he hedged his bets and sought out to position himself at the right time for his podcast and give himself access to a much more massive network of people and guest by moving to Austin, Texas.

[@dna8269]

I don’t get how this channel doesn’t have AT LEAST 1 mil subs yet

[@thenomad9853]

I do feel for the young guys out there - it's a difficult time to be a man right now. Hell I'm 49 and *I* feel lost right now, god knows what it's like for the guys just getting into their 20s in the mad world we live in today. Good luck out there guys.

[@markt2398]

I also believe the great bug of 2020 threw another wrench in the dating scene. Things were already confusing and weird and then people lost their minds over the bug on many levels. It set us back even more in regards to relating to each other in the real world.

[@justinthematrix]

@@l337z0r I’m sure they’re becoming best friends nice and close in the myocarditis treatment center

[@mondavou9408]

Chris is a natural. Great lead questions, good follow questions, good pace, good analogies to get your point communicated. Just a pleasure to absorb.

[@Blorp_]

Natural is a good word to use in contrast to Mike

[@mondavou9408]

@@Blorp_ ha ha are you inferring something about his arms?

[@user-tj5di9kv1u]

@@Blorp_ 😂

[@thiccactus]

Mans been doing this podcast for 5 years, he better be good at it lol.

[@yaseenkhaliq]

It's awesome the way you put these questions forward so perfectly worded !!!

[@lukaotovic-nesic952]

the section on uni drinking culture was like breath of fresh air. I resonate with every statement, and it feles alienating

[@kylepacioni]

I just graduated university last year. The female dominated env is definitely prevalent, but I’d say the hardest thing about it was the notion that simply by existing as a man, all of your accomplishments essentially don’t count. I was fed the notion that the world was wildly bent in my favor and that was the only reason for my success and that if I couldn’t recognize that, it was only evidence of my stupidity, further proving that I didn’t deserve success. For context I went to uni in CA, TX, the Uk (Westminster) and Nevada. 4 different schools in 2 countries. Same narrative everywhere

[@Bboydu78000]

It's the same bullshit everywhere mate, I got kicked out of a group (not a huge loss) that invited me to join them at a bar after they sat at our table. Why ? because I told a blue haired girl from that group "men suffer too" when she was rambling about her feminism and inequalities between men and women... Don't let them brainwash you, if anything it's harder to be a guy in a lot of aspects of life

[@jayc342009]

Currently a lot of men are walking away from society, myself included. I refuse to contribute to a society that hates men.

[@elbruhmomentonumerodos9227]

Why did you go to so many different unis?

[@vitorfriedrich3086]

What are you going to do about it?

[@ConservativeSatanist666]

"Comparison is the thief of joy" Very true

[@jackgs247]

This is one of my favourite modern wisdom episodes. Extremely relatable to the part on dating, feeling lost and then business as I have just set up my own. Thanks fellas

[@ANONNYMOMMY]

Chris and Mike, you are wise beyond your years. You are thoughtful, articulate and speak truth. Young people can learn so much from you both - Please keep spreading the wisdom

[@cristydonaldson7627]

Chris is a triple threat: very handsome, intelligent, and introspective. He might be the best person for young men to learn from, relate to. Keep up the good work dude.

[@tuinov6286]

Very handsome. Thats where you lost 80% of men. According to women of course. He is not a good rolemodel.

[@TitusCastiglione1503]

@@tuinov6286 seems good to me.

[@James_36]

he's not in a committed relationship, he doesn't have kids... I am not seeing much success... who cares about the shallow materialistic stuff? I have got this so called materialism and frankly it really is not meaningful. These people are more grifters trying to grow cults so they can make money off naïve young men tbh. Without his looks would he even have an audience? without going on love island would he even have a podcast? opportunistic people if you ask me

[@edenbreckhouse]

I'm pretty sure that if I had an IQ of 95, male pattern baldness and was 5 feet 4 inches I'd relate to Chris. He won the genetic lottery. Many do not.

[@sohammshah1725]

@@tuinov6286 why not a good role model?

[@WillApplebyUK]

Great episode, been waiting for this one for ages!

[@danwilkinson9001]

Putting it out there Chris, I still have my orange Voodoo riverside hoodie from ten years ago, smashing it mate

[@bigbenexploration]

Great to see the progress from both since the last podcast they did together …. I’ve been around long enough to see that :)

[@fitness_aroosa]

I was just listening to this full podcast on Spotify I have never listened to a complete podcast of yours other than the one you did with David goggins but most of it was just him talking but I never realised till today how much knowledge you do actually possess after listening to this one

[@Rakyr]

I 100% believe that the comparison element is why we feel lost, as a 25 year old, you almost feel ashamed to be working a job that pays 30k when you see so many people online making that in a month. It makes you feel worthless somehow even though 30k is a decent starting salary for a graduate!

[@snakegriffin4928]

Bingo

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

and then take into account those of us who at 25 had just finished a worthless degree and are yet to even start working. (I studied Political Sciences lol, now I'm getting into carpentry...)

[@manoftomorrow5987]

Comparison is the thief of joy. One thing I've learned over my life is that you have to go at your own pace. Also..your situation isnt everyone else's.

[@stuboy13]

I have always thought, personally, that the only thing that should be used to compare is average salary for your age and sex in your area. Even then - we are all on our own path with our own lives and there's many factors holding us back or propelling us forward. The average male salary outside of mega city CBD is really low for under 30's compared with the warped perspective we hear and see about online. Keep at it man. You're working. Hard. Doing honest work. More than half the battle is done.

[@Rakyr]

@@manoftomorrow5987 I know, one issue is that I have always been competitive even from a young age so naturally I do compare myself to people as a reference point!

[@austiebosty9727]

Another great podcast! Keep it up friend.

[@arkmangato870]

They are really that very small age range (30-38ish) where they did get the best of both worlds, pre internet and post. They got to have a childhood-post college life without the pressures of social media, but it arrived just in time for them to utilize it in the prime of their lives. As a 20-something left to the wayside, I have to admit I am a bit jealous

[@stevenharrisnz]

Brilliant. What a time we live in to be able to be a fly on the wall for these conversations

[@paulbrowitt7625]

I enjoyed seeing you both asking questions to each other.

[@mangle7587]

I recently hit 30 and still feel completely f*cking lost in life. I don´t even have a job at the moment, which i thought would ruin me but i actually feel better now since i hated the last one. What i think help the most during times like these is to try focus on the present, and not so much on the future even though it is good to have plans and goals to work towards. I found that to avoid being to pessimistic and negative it helps (ALOT) to regularly work out, take long walks, listen to podcasts like these, read and watch documentaries. I hope all of you guys out there will have a great life. Take care!

[@Fitopoli]

30 does that to you. 40 was ok, 50 felt a little like I'm getting old. Now 55 and I'm loving life. I was a personal trainer for 35+ years and loved every day of it. I chose my clients, the times I worked, and how much I charged. But even with that there were politics from the management company that ran the gym. Choose something you enjoy and make it your living. Ignore people who say it doesn't work, it does. They usually chose something they hated and it isn't working out.

[@mangle7587]

​@@Fitopoli Thank you for the advice!

[@AdamBechtol]

Mmm

[@tonya3144]

This was a very, very good interview. Thank you for all you are doing for your fellow man.

[@bronsomccor2642]

Chris is so intelligent and articulate he's a great interviewer and thanks for the advice and knowledge

[@Real_Matt]

Honestly, this was fantastic content.

[@seanguzy9601]

Life hit me pretty hard since birth. I just had this convo the other day with a FORMER best friend. " thats what men have to deal with as well, growing up with best friends, and all of a sudden you move, and WAME they allow their enviornment to change back into chameleon personality. " He actually had the balls to tell me I dont know what sufferring is. Than I laid it on him, all the stuff I thought he knew lol ( he does, hes just an alcoholic ) since he also was a victim of women destroying his heart. Now hes a former shell of him self. Cracking on his former best friend. When a kid is grown up in poverty, and he notices even BUMS get to wash them selves better than me, or EAT better than me, and I live in a home that has a roof that is collapsing, watching my dad cry every day, our water heater breaking, our plumbing not working, cant shit, shower, shave, rats, bugs, cockroaches, fleas on the dogs, no vacuum cleaner, mold everywhere. Racoons living in your walls. Having to get a job at 15, having to drop out of high school to go to military school. lol I can go on.... ps I lived 4 miles away from Camden NJ.

[@mkb2420]

Convert to Islam like Tate did bro

[@Challenge_Jackson]

Really enjoyed that. As a Geordie I especially liked the nostalgic trip down memory lane when you were both at uni. I remember both your faces popping up on Facebook from the promotional stuff you guys were doing. Good times))

[@Samsaraindo]

As an older guy (39), I can agree on a lot here: 1. Haha, you do feel way better and energized in your early 20s. Even by staying in great shape and eating clean, it's never the same after like 33. 2. I'm so glad I got to be in my 20s in the 2000s. I feel bad for younger guys now. The 2000s were so fun, no phones and little social media. And yes, the music was better 😂 3. The best part about now though is your ability to do what chris and Mike have done. Build your own brand, have your own voice.

[@scholaroftheworldalternatehist]

Hm perhaps you were biased since you were in yours 20s in the 2000s. I find that one's own physical and financial status has more impact on their perception of life than the actual macroenvironment.

[@user-og6hl6lv7p]

I feel stronger and more energetic in my 30s to be honest. It's a really nice surprise, especially considering how society is hell bent on demoralising and destroying me because I'm a straight white male.

[@Youtuber19841]

Loving this convo already

[@christopherlappas8284]

Easy and digestible chat, great ep 👍

[@chillelement8301]

Thanks for this content. Love the talk! I agree 100% that community is everything.

[@kadegainey5123]

Thank you for this conversation. I needed to hear some of this

[@mitchell9824]

One of the best podcasts👊🏻

[@Joshukend]

I used to be really good at pick-up and had dozens of interactions that led to more. Fast forward 6 years, post a 5 year relationship, I literally can't get a first date... I'm fitter, better dressed, more cultured, more experienced in all ways and can't get a single date. This is after over 50 approaches. Interactions almost always go amazingly right until I ask to hangout/coffee/dinner, then poof. It feels insane. The best part is everyone else (friends, family, older strangers) shower me with compliments and then I sit here with a whole lotta nothing on the dating front now. I'm about to launch a business and am worried that if I suddenly am successful and girls suddenly start clicking, I won't be able to take any of them seriously. "Where were you when I wasn't EVERYTHING?"

[@folarinpearse]

First podcast where I've seen someone interview "themselves" 😁😁 Honestly you guys are so similar! Good podcast!!

[@jjkfunda]

Subscribed a few days ago and my second video watched to the very end. Interesting conversations...we men are convinced and tend to have a shift for better when men speak... !!!

[@jorgecadette1127]

Great podcast. What a discussion.

[@aleidius192]

I think men will feel better if they start trying to form IRL communities about things that they value. This will require a conscious effort on the part of each individual to think about what's important to them and then to actually pursue those values in the world.

[@edenbreckhouse]

We had IRl communities and then they got invaded by women who hated the idea of men having their own spaces.

[@talonjones2375]

Give men a reason to go into the IRL communities then maybe you’ll see a change. As of now there is no reason for us to care.

[@aleidius192]

@@talonjones2375 You are rationalizing indolence.

[@talonjones2375]

@@aleidius192 I pay taxes for others Indolence created by a society not giving us what is needed to be happy and succeed. They just take man, men are disposable in this society. Why fight for a nation who sees me as a monster?

[@3hristopher]

You right

[@jordan6489]

As a guy that’s your contemporary, 34 yrs old in June, I am really impressed with the podcast and a lot of the same values that we have in common. Former American rugby player in college to my mid 20s drinking was part of the culture, and it was fun. Plain and simple. Getting girls was also just simpler too. Shoot your shot and if you fail, live to fight another day..Also with the drinking it’s something I feel like a lot of people our age age out of it as well. Happily married with two wonderful children, the time to drink is minimal. A whisky here and there with friends and family is cool, but even after one or two fingers I feel it the next morning, not terribly but you still feel it. Keep up the wonderful work brother and continue to be a positive influence for this younger generation.

[@emperorsean1]

I'm not making a killing at 34 when I graduated I was unemployed for 3 years as there was no work in Ireland.

[@FreshFitMiami]

Ayyyy shoutout to the homies!

[@KingofDreams1111]

Loving the podcasts, keep it up G

[@parris145]

The main difference today for young men is the expectation that young women now have for men. When I was twenty, girls didn't talk about expensive bags, designer dresses or expensive vacations. All a guy had to do to get a hot girl was wash, use mouth wash and be in reasonable shape. Well, personality went a long way as well. Let's be honest here guys like Mike Thurston don't make it easy on young men. Before it was you were jacked and a knucklehead or you were a bit nerdy but had a financial future. Now Instagram is showing you both on 10!!! Jacked and with cash, that is not the real world.

[@SilverLumberjack]

Nice to have your brother on the show Chris.

[@NickSibz]

This was an incredible podcast and talk. Mike is one of my favorite guys to watch and I mess with his mindset and way of living. Really great episode and conversation between you both. I agree with so much. Both men and women are having a very tough time with the current climate and "agenda" being pushed.

[@stuartcrosby1738]

Enjoying the content Chris, hope your well, keep it up mate.

[@Steepedteatime]

How the perceived bro science youtubers are actual competent intellects sharing personal thoughts and life experiences, for the better of man.

[@arkdude8484]

yup

[@bobjohnson3940]

First you two are a really good duo in general. The whole vibe is super natural and it's one of the better examples I've seen of two peers. I've thought about making a KZbin channel a few times. I consider myself somewhat of a philosopher and I've had countless conversations with people of all sorts, been writing for 15 years and I have a knack for saying things in a way that hits exactly where it needs to. I like the idea that everyone on the internet right now is contributing to the body of understanding through humanity. We no longer need to go through publishers, auditions, we're not on the DSM committee and if it turns out you are adding something of value it's shown clearly in quick feedback and your popularity. I also happen to be a sexcellent speaker and my face is most commonly compared to the statues of Easter Island lol. Anyway, maybe, cheers gents solid content.

[@robertbarga3694]

Damn. The conversation that begins around the 34:08 mark is REALLY powerful stuff.

[@marley551]

Great chat only got 40 minutes in but plan to watch the rest soon

[@faboolean7039]

On the topic of 50%of men perusing dating this generation I want to just share my thoughts. I’m one of these men at 20 years old, I regularly exercise practice BJJ, don’t drink and sleep well consistently - my testosterone levels are healthy. I do want to find myself in a long term relationship with a good woman but I have no idea how to find good women with good values at this age. I refuse to use online dating because that seems like a pathetic mess to me and I don’t go out to clubs and bars a lot so I guess I’m purposefully handicapping myself on some easy opportunities because I value the goals I want to achieve regarding my health, fitness and career over drinking culture. I’m at the point where I’ve accepted that I’m going to prioritise building my dream career and building an elite physical condition for myself over spending all this time and mental energy on the dating scene. If the right woman wanders into my life I won’t ignore her but, the goals I already have outside dating are already so large and ambitious that I have to be careful with what I get my mind obsessing over. I also worry about getting myself into a relationship that isn’t actually beneficial at all for me and only ever sets me backwards when it comes to my life ambitions.

[@Ace-xt8lv]

Smart man

[@-glitch-8195]

I appreciate that you thought that far. To be honest, most men are just trying to attract a woman and have no idea how she fits into what he's trying to achieve. That seems to be a serious point of contention in most relationships so its best to acknowledge it before hand and act on it. And at 20 years old, I wish you the very best!

[@slaptheaskshow130]

Really should post the alcohol sequence as a clip. Very honest and informative.

[@NebulaComments]

Been waiting the whole day for this one Chris! Very excited to listen :) Thank you for putting out such quality content, so often ❤

[@VolatilityTradingStrategies]

That meetup part in Dubai at the end was important. I'm new in dubai, I've got a successful company, former pro golfer, but I don't know anyone in Dubai. It's an amazing place but Mike is right, if you're new it's actually pretty difficult to break into the right networks. Might have to look into your mastermind. Thanks guys, great podcast!

[@cccc7006]

Holy moly, didn't realize how Chris and Mike look alike. Also, it looks like Chris and Mike are the supporting casts here. Their forearms are the main characters. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MH-se7rr]

I found it interesting you interviewed yourself in this one, good one.

[@timgoodpointblank9073]

The part on reputation at 1:07:00 is such a huge part of why Chris is so successful. I really admire the way you're able to fuck em and be yourself, along with upholding high morals, and not falling short to the temptation of greed that surrounds us all.

[@ricasso777]

Chris interviewing himself 😅

[@deniznedzhmiev4343]

If you just listening, you would think that Mike is speaking with himself 😁 Good job as always here 👏🏽

[@ooooooooppps]

Youchoob! Thanks guys...great pod ❤

[@chad9971]

My youngest brother is 10 years younger than me (I'm 27 he's 17), but the high school lives we've lived are completely different. I remember how cool it was just to have the internet on my first iPhone outside of wifi. My younger brother's attire and IG posts are leagues above mine from high school. There's a whole internet pressure that he's striving to compete with, and it's taken a toll on him (he's had to start seeing a counselor for mental health). I was mostly carefree in high school (besides typical HS drama) cuz I never had to compare myself with how other teenagers dressed across the country, what they drive, how many followers they had, etc. Your teenage years are too impressionable for them to have this level of access to the internet.

[@donjohnson2428]

I’m one year older than you and I agree. Back when were in high school, instagram was all about posting cool pictures of random things and making them look cooler with filters. Now it’s a non-stop pissing contest where everyone tries to make their lives look as glamorous as possible. I think our age group group got lucky in that social media was mostly harmless in our middle school-high school years. It’s a totally different beast now.

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

In Australia, if people are doing better than before (less unemployment, rising wages) the Federal Government imports 250,000 people a year just to make sure wages start going down, housing prices go up and there is higher unemployment (= no jobs goes without a worker, even the lowest paid that you can't live off). The Government has a theory that every business deserves a cheap worker, rather than every worker deserving a living wage. On top of that, every property owner needs enough people coming in to keep the value of their property as high as it can go, rather than everyone without a house needs a cap on how many people are brought into the country so they can buy in a less high-demand market.

[@smugprout5698]

True

[@RobbieeeG]

From what I’ve seen the wages in Australia are really high.

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@RobbieeeG For those jobs where they can't import surplus workers for it, yes. But not for the jobs where they can.

[@nicholasgannas5018]

​@@RobbieeeG So are the expenses and property

[@RobbieeeG]

@@nicholasgannas5018 yeah i guess, but i'm from the UK and the wages compared to expeneses are a joke.

[@robertbarga3694]

Really great video guys. 👍👍

[@ChrimsonChin]

The fact that you don't mention yourself as a good role model is part of why you are one. I think you are doing a great job chris.

[@tedratliff2154]

I think the rapid exchange of information has put unrealistic expectations on many. Don't worry about what others think, work on yourself so you can take care of yourself.

[@ChrimsonChin]

You know, in this crazy wold in these current times its people like you and your content that evens the odds for people in the sea of insanity

[@TheCurtisdavies]

chris… I thought this video was brilliant, no more words needed, subscribed

[@azizsahnoun7344]

Thanks a lot for that content

[@dlewis731]

Appreciate U Mr Mike Thurston

[@MykhailoSuprunov]

Thank you, brothers

[@faridrbie5340]

Great seeing you interviewing yourself, Chris 😂

[@lionelpayette4628]

Great video!

[@justinthematrix]

Amazing podcast.

[@rossmarais]

Epic interview

[@etho86]

I think its dangerous for all these young men to aspire to become multimillionaire "influencers". The amount of people who make it big is extraordinarily small. Congrats to the ones who make it, but the vast majority do not.

[@722sasuke]

Uncle Mike in the house !!

[@NKZ0902]

Great video! Nice AP!

[@ChristophWalks]

Chris, if you read this, I really look up to you, brother. I think we are about the same age, we are both CW initials, and you are living a simple but successful life. You seem to have it dialed in, and your wisdom and way with words amazes me. I am the same way about barely drinking anymore. Non-alcoholic beer for me now. Way better for the long-term progress and mindset. I am dialing in my fitness as well. Your results inspire me to be great. One day would love to have my own successful business as well. So what I am trying to say is you are a person I look up to who inspires me. 💪 Love your content. I live in Houston. Hopefully one day we’ll cross paths ✌️.

[@catche85]

Love Mike! Please interview Ross Edgely and Layne Norton if you haven't already! Both amazing men and great role models.

[@mattanderson6672]

Thanks Chris

[@successblueprintinstitute]

Thanks again Thurston

[@zachcolgan]

who is hall moseley, havent heard of him prior to this. Fantastic Podcast as well by the way

[@themaniacmitch]

I think Mike's right that the comparison thing is a huge part of it. Even just hearing him say he left middle-management to become a personal trainer at 23 had me twinge with a bit of upset, as I'm doing the same thing but I'm 5 years older 😅 😂

[@AdamBechtol]

Mmmm

[@jolelofgren2005]

Im about to do the same

[@5212236548]

Thanks!

[@zachcostello_]

Stay in it for the value boys, not the money!

[@mariahvega7230]

OK, I started watching and was like "there's two of them? I'm in love" 😂

[@pupplylove3003]

I was so confused when I first subscribed to Mike then saw Chris’s channel and was like wait hold up! Is this not the same person!? 😂 Took me a minute to figure out y’all were two different people

[@arvinsenglishph2293]

Wow what a real man convo!

[@JoseLozano1694]

The part that you guys were talking about alcoholism I realized that my generation in uni we were not consuming alcohol that much but other drugs. Alcohol is not sexy any more for the young party people. They are doing molly, cocaine, acid and weed which I don’t know if it’s better or worst. Also as someone who lives in Las Vegas, people are not consuming alcohol for fun anymore, it has evolve to other drugs that actually are cheaper and give you a “better” feeling. Nice episode 🤙🏼

[@Ricardo-ur5os]

I agree 100%, the amount of casual drug taking there is nowadays is insane. I’m guilty of it, but just because people don’t drink as much defintely doesn’t mean the party atmosphere is lesser😅

[@angelcandelaria6728]

That fact that so many people watch other people watch things will never compute.