Moe Norman Feels his Downswing

[@RobertGillontheinterweb]

Moe Norman is the ultimate KZbin golf rabbit hole

[@chaddy-me-boy8299]

You have to love someone who is so unconventional that it confuses the so called experts.

[@jaysanchez2226]

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[@carloshernandez129]

how about you just say confused you as well

[@chaddy-me-boy8299]

He can’t hit it offline even if he wanted to. 😂😂😂

[@griffinmorris2439]

If y’all didn’t know, now had severe autism. Was an amazing person

[@jamesstaggs7591]

Bro is the truth. My wife swings like this naturally and embarrasses half the fellas with her drives. Born with aim regardless of having an unorthodox form.

[@jaidee3297]

He is my hero.. I use his swing Technic 💯 hundred percent for sure

[@jcdova29]

How do you play using his swing?

[@mperdi2860]

Moe's genius unfortunately is underrated! Top pros of the time and now, mostly agreed that Moe was one of the best ballstrikers they have ever seen! Most notably Trevino, Faldo and others!!

[@jaidee3297]

True 💕

[@goonytunes4119]

Tiger

[@PiePye]

Ben hogen is the best ball striker of all time. He hits more fairways and greens then moe. He won more than him. He also has a nicer swing then him too.

[@benwood7132]

@@PiePye then

[@riggz5496]

@@PiePyehow do you know how many fairways and greens they hit? Moe came in 2nd place on purpose 10-20 times just because the prize was better

[@jamesanthony5681]

A Canadian club pro told me he saw Norman hitting balls on the range, and Moe kept saying after each swing, 'Catching the raindrops. Catching the raindrops." What did he mean? The palms facing up, perhaps?

[@Thepippinator2]

Cause he’s the Rain Man of golf! 😂

[@antoniocordova3795]

Sounds right. Not that I know, but I imagine he practiced plenty in the rain. If the rain wasn't hitting his palm, he wasn't doing it right. Or maybe he just liked the saying...

[@normandpaul6272]

Exactly

[@edwardsroba]

Then you see him in slow motion and his palms aren’t facing up for a single second of the swing 😂

[@edwardsroba]

Then you see him in slow motion and his palms aren’t facing up for a single second of the swing 😂

[@j.t.3798]

Genuis comes in many forms

[@curtmcguire5431]

Freind of mine played in a top Canadian amatuer tournament. Mo was playing. He watched him for 30 minutes on the range. He said Mo was everything u see and more. Absolutely unbelievable ball striker. And yes, Mo won that tournament!

[@ultimatejay]

I love Moe but that was no where near 300yards lol

[@gregorylatta8159]

Moe was awesome!!!

[@josephduffer789]

He was a Wizard and his method works

[@OhioRiverFisherman]

I tried the Moe Norman swing and its crazy good!!! I can pick a spot and hit it straight to it

[@JGunit]

Dudes doing what everyone is teaching now about the right elbow

[@bubbawatson1852]

Since learning of moe. He crashed my top 5 favorite athletes of all time, Larry bird, moe norman, Jordan, john daly

[@nowaythatnamewastakn]

That's four.

[@bubbawatson1852]

Pete rose

[@bubbawatson1852]

@@nowaythatnamewastakn I'm from Kentucky, counting sometimes is tough on us ol boys from the hollar.

[@drumzmagoo]

Took me two years to understand his concepts, then it just clicked.

[@Jarhead0331]

If I didn’t know just how good Moe was I would swear this was just a video of someone making fun of a guy😂

[@gbthrylos]

the master move

[@vreeke777]

Great fashion

[@TeddyCavachon]

The way Moe’s hands were locked down into ulnar deviation through impact causes them to turn over immediately after impact. That points the toe of the club up much sooner than a conventional swing where the arms hands don’t get pulled straight and turn the toe over until well inside the target line and creates a the very steep swing plane in the finish because the toe acts like a boat rudder to steer the mass in the direction it points. Count Yogi (Harry Frankenberg) had the same steep release plane for the same reason as Moe. The way he gripped and oriented this hand at impact acted to lock the face square with hands through impact with unlar deviation but like Moe that caused the hands and toe to turn over. Hogan had similar action in his swing to keep the face square throughout impact but prevented hands and toe from turning over so fast by the way he maxed out flexion/supination in lead wrist which kept extension in the trail wrist “holding off” the turning over of the hands which would cause him to snap hook when his timing was off. After learning all three swing styles (I worked at Broad Run Golf where the pro’s taught the Graves / Norman method) I conclude that Moe and Frankenberg were golf savants who just developed their unconventional swings with observation of cause and effect when trying every possible way to swing a club. From using Five Lessons and reading books about Hogan I concluded was more of a “ducks in a row” sensing type when it came to learning I who copied a lot of his techniques from others like his caddie buddy Byron Nelson’s new dual plane swing in the 1930 and what Abe Mitchell wrote in his 1933 book “Down To Scratch” about ‘swinging into resistance. I suspect Hogan’s waggle may have been the result of seeing Count Yogi and copying parts of his swing.

[@richardlovell7316]

No question he was a great ball striker but If you watch Moe’s swing in slomo the lean forward doesn’t occur until after impact. He is describing what he felt in his swing. Many fail to understand that.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Of course.

[@kimchee411]

This was a time when people were taught feels, not positions. A lot more effective tbh.

[@duchas]

how can moe go down as he tells and still mantain the distance to the ball? I saw some videos also he moves down his head a lot, not visible in this one

[@BradYzermans]

Amazing ball striker. Crazy how he he claims to hit it further than he a tually does, but I I like his positive and confident self talk.

[@anino1984]

I think if he had better equipment he could probably get it to 280-290

[@jacktaylor9782]

@@anino1984 I watched him at an outing hit 7 iron 150 yards all day .. don't think he was long although I'm sure he could find yards if he needed them .. BUT incredible repetitive accuracy

[@dscwac396]

​@@jacktaylor9782 150-155 with a 36-38 degree 7 iron is impressive give him a modern 7 iron 30-34 easily 170

[@TheDetective-dg4vj]

No not even close. Wedge was 52, 9 48 8 44, 7iron was 40...late 60s..Every beginner at that time was told he should hit his 7 150..Moe Norman couldn't hit a ball 280 yds if he hit one off of a mountain on to an airport runway!! Short hitter....Everything he says happens ens in his swing is bs...It is just what he thought he did...stop this video right before impact. You will see he doesn't have the PALM UP or that he always has his left on top of his right hand!! All crap..Never happens!!!..Use your head people,if you start with the face Square to your target at address and THEN turn your palm up like he says and shows with his hand at his right leg,The clubface is pointing Straight to the freaking Sky!!! Hahaha,if you continue to swing from there you would hit the ball with the sole plate on the bottom if your driver!!! Todd Graves is a guy who knows this is bs and pedals this garbage...SAD..If you want to hit it short and be laughed at with that ridiculous fake extension arm after u swing, I suggest you also hit old wood drivers too!! 😂😂🎉😅 If you are going to look like an idiot to everyone you play with,you might as well prove you are a idiot.....😂🎉😅Run away from this lunacy and watch Martin Hall,Butch Harman,Jim Flick,or Jim McLean,who will teach you real instruction. Wake up!!!

[@michaeldellorso889]

@@jacktaylor9782no way to be long with such a vertical drop. Can’t rotate with that much knee flex

[@MH3GL]

For some odd reason, I feel like I'm getting a golf lesson from Lou Costello.

[@encycooper]

How many majors?

[@ToddGravesGolf]

I suggest you copy Tiger’s swing.

[@jcdova29]

Pros say he was the best ball striker.

[@jacobr4558]

What he is talking about has nothing to do with that elbow or that Palm it's actually a much more core move! His move that we're not seeing and understanding is his right side bend. His right shoulder gets closer to his right hip in the downswing which is what is giving him the shallowing move that we can't see. In effect that's also causing his elbow to tuck in that's also causing his palm to go up and it's also creating a tremendous amount of power. Side Bend is what most people don't do in their swing. Side Bend is the reason most people are over the top because they don't bend at all. If you bend more you're going to get more under it.

[@davideveringham2881]

The black line across his knuckles?

[@doma3199]

👍

[@ieatgoldmansnax]

Hogan had the same elbow

[@5offthetee951]

"MOS MOS.....More of the Same More of the Same"

[@user-cu1ce1qf3r]

Actually in his swing, i cant find any moment of he's saying exaggeration .

[@GrahamEddy]

Why so much hate in the comments? 🤔 not sure I would be in any position to say anything negative

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Wold have to have seen him hit it. Nobody hit it as good as Moe.

[@JohnnyDowntheTubes]

Did he say “300 yards”? With that swing?

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Yes, he did.

[@dcl2048]

I’ve never seen proof on video of his ball flight and distance it’s always just videos of his from the side swinging.

[@jesselokken]

You have to understand he pures his shot, perfect strike, no side spin. It probably did go 300, or very close.

[@carloshernandez129]

type A personality

[@taktisk2158]

@@dcl2048there are videos of him that had shot tracer added.

[@JuanLopez-rx6sx]

Only if they had shot tracer technology back then..

[@taktisk2158]

There are some videos that had higher quality and shot tracer was added. He wasn’t kidding about straight as an arrow.

[@JuanLopez-rx6sx]

@@taktisk2158pretty remarkable

[@turnthree5617]

How in the world does he hit the ball so well with that swing?

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Because it is the common sense way to hit a ball on the ground with a stick. It’s Natural

[@turnthree5617]

@@ToddGravesGolf reminds me of Arnold Palmer's swing.

[@dcl2048]

@@ToddGravesGolf lol no need to be A smart ass.

[@anhboa2]

I'm a foreigner and someone can help translate what he said please ?!

[@hannsbrolo145]

So essentially it is a BASEBALL swing!!!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Not really but ok.

[@nathanatkins15t]

lol this video looks like it’s an N64 cutscene

[@user-eu6vy3hm8s]

15년 동안 스윙이 안 되던 거 겨우 알아낸 비밀, 저것이 핵심임. 비밀은 하박의 외회전.

[@PiePye]

No. The secret is you want your right elbow pointing down to the ground on the top of your back swing. That is the secret.

[@user-eu6vy3hm8s]

I don't think so.@@PiePye

[@PiePye]

@@user-eu6vy3hm8s bruh how? Look at Ben hogans swing he’s elbow is point down at the top of his backswing. That will automatically tuck your right elbow in for a good ball strike.

[@brfam1977]

Is there something wrong with him? I honestly want to know

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Might have had Aspergers. He was brilliant.

[@evandh1989]

@@ToddGravesGolf Let’s keep it real. He was a great, great ball striker. But brilliant? Idk about that…

[@ToddGravesGolf]

@@evandh1989 Did you know him? Spend time with him? Play golf with him? Yes, brilliant.

[@brfam1977]

@@ToddGravesGolf no doubt. I was guessing his condition and his personality kept him from winning in major tours. That would probably lead to unnecessary stress. My son has Asperger’s and competition is definitely not for him..

[@jesselokken]

​@evandh1989 brilliant = exceptionally clever or talented So yes, Moe was brilliant when it came to golf.

[@miltonmatthews2138]

It's funny to me that these pros "feel" things that really don't happen in their swing. Feel and actual are two entirely different things.

[@martinkeates9816]

And contrary to what one might think, the feel is more important than the real.

[@carloshernandez129]

sure thing🤣

[@RC-lw3le]

I never understood anything this guy says

[@ToddGravesGolf]

That’s my job.

[@charlesking3384]

Actually it’s mine and what’s funny is Dr. Suttie didn’t understand him either. Dude knew exactly what he was doing and did it how many golfers in the world can see that.. not too many

[@Thegooob95]

@@ToddGravesGolf 😂😂👍🏻

[@austinkellett8620]

Mhmm

[@maxsmart8954]

Any documentation on when and who said Moe was the greatest ball striker. It was once said that Syd Fynch had the fastest recorded fast ball at 132 MPH. And Joe Namath once said Forest Gump was the fastest and most elusive running back that he had seen at University of Alabama as a walk on in 1964.😂😂😂

[@mr.ferociousceo5261]

Mo went on to make millions as the voice of Winnie The Pooh. Oh, Bother....

[@gerrymc76]

Addressing 6 inch’s behind the ball gives me a much better strike 🤷‍♂️😁🏌️‍♀️

[@patricklynch589]

He can go low because the ground will not interrupt his swing… I broke a steel shaft on a swing because I never had instruction from anyone… the ground has always been a problem… moe didn’t have that as I can observe from his mechanics… try snapping the head off a ping eye 2 #5 with a hard swing…your wrists arms and shoulders hurt for weeks after

[@GolfisFun512]

Mmmmmhmmmmm mmmmmhmmmm

[@dunklechuck1188]

Strange dude Mo

[@jwsteeves1467]

How was his short game?😂 That's why they called him the 🤡

[@TheCarContractSlayer]

You need to master 3 different swings for golf. He mastered the drive and putting. For Short game google Steve Stricker 🤮🤮🤮

[@jhannides]

It doesn’t look to me like moe is doing what he says he is doing. I don’t think the palm faces up at that point in the actual downswing. Certainly not to take anything away from Moe but one has to exaggerate to make an a point.

[@Thegooob95]

He’s describing the feeling of the position of his swing. It’s not the same thing as the swing, but it’s how you train it.

[@jhannides]

@@Thegooob95 Thanks

[@Thegooob95]

@@jhannides ur welcome :)

[@beammeupscottsp7952]

Yeah if I did that I’m spraying right all day unless I flip then his massive hooks 😂

[@bobbyhulll8737]

It’s the feel of it he’s describing

[@dcl2048]

Worst swing in golf

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Not according to Tiger Woods, Lee Trevino, Ken Venturi, Vijay Singh, Peter Jacobsen, Ben Hogan and the thousands of pros who knew him.

[@annonnimis4000]

​@@ToddGravesGolfyup clown comment

[@stannistrump4622]

What's your master move Mo?

[@av3675]

The fuck is he doing with those funky stances, karate or something

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Striping it. Dead Straight.