Mojo UK LTD ‘59 PAF Pickup Demo

[@johnmirabile3535]

Matts videos are right to the point, no corny dialogue, fancy backdrops, no fake cabs, and/or digital shreeky tones....Some of these vloggers act like there filming a Scorcese flick! Love this channel right to the point! no bullshit, one take of .perfectly inperfect toneage! GUITAR, AMP, HUMAN BEING!..And he even answers if you have a question... GOOD STUFF MATT! KEEP EM' COMIN!

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Thanks John. I honestly don’t know what words can convey in these sorts of videos that playing can’t. So I don’t talk.

[@scottgeorge6375]

They sound really sweet. I have a pair of Doyle coils and a Ron Ellis LPR in the bridge in the signature in the neck. Have you ever tried the mojo’s in a band? I noticed a huge difference with the Ellis’s really shined while playing with a band

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

I frequently do. They’re great in a live band context

[@HiHello-ku1fl]

Damn these might be the best. Which would you give the edge to these or Stephens Design Beldin wire? If you could only keep one set of pickups. Haha!

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

If you put a gun to my head, I’d take the gun. Both these and the Stephens’s are tied for first place. Can’t choose between them.

[@scottgeorge6375]

Do the SD’s and Mojo’s sound similar? Do the SD’s also have that granularity?

[@hugueshelbo4212]

HI, thanks for all your videos! I just got the same set, but I'm struggling to get it sounding right. The highs are quite piercing, and the lows a bit muddy. I can feel their potential as they have lots of nice overtones, and a sound texture that is similar to the real PAF's set I own, but their response is a bit frustrating. Would you mind to share how you set yours relative to the strings in mm? Thanks!

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

The bridge is quite close to the strings with the screws arc’d in the middle. Neck is level with the rings.

[@hugueshelbo4212]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 Thanks! But thy are currently in a 1977 Standard, which has the rings quite thinner than the Historics. What is the approx. distance from the strings in mm to the neck pickup screws? I might swap them in my R8 later, but I really love the low wind Wizz that are in that one, so I'm not sure.

[@hugueshelbo4212]

Ok, I think I got them set up right now. I made some recording test, they really shine in a band mix, much more than on their own :)

[@Funk11147]

Any idea on the output of these as there’s no readings on Dingwalls site? Which set would you recommend for style of Josh smith Kirk fletcher robben ford?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@Funk11147 Output as measured in what- Capacitance, Inductance, Resistance, V/mV? My guess is you’re referring to DCR resistance, which isn’t the same as output, as it is dependent on so many variables (wire thickness, wire composition, etc).

[@Funk11147]

It seems I posted this on the wrong clip as I thought was the dingwalls ha. I meant like neck 7k and bridge 8k etc? I am looking at the Dingwall and mojo 59 low wind atm. Maybe the mojo nos but there pricey. Which out of the two had the sweetest clean blues sound? Ala Kirk fletcher robben ford etc

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@Funk11147 Again, you’re referring to DCR resistance, which isn’t the same thing as output. Hypothetically, if you had the exact same wire made of the exact same thickness, with the exact same internal composition, etc, it could function as a proxy for output, I guess, but that’s never the case in the real world. To answer your question, I’m not too schooled on Ford, Fletcher, or Smith, so I can’t really say. The Dingwalls are a little smoother sounding than the Mojos…the Mojo’s sound closer to my ear to PAFs

[@Funk11147]

I know Kirk uses a ron Ellis alnico 5 on the neck and an original paf on the bridge. How do the mojo and Dingwall compare tone Ron you had in? Mainly neck pickup most openness and clarity

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@Funk11147 The Ron Ellis LRPs have Alnico 2’s and 3’s in them. They’re lovely pickups, but more ‘57 PAF style than ‘58-60

[@YheGrothmog]

Hey Matt I'm in market for PAF pickups. Would You choose these or Gibson 1959 collectors?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Never tried the Gibson offerings, but given these have NOS wire and are among the best sounding pickups I own, I’d pull for these

[@youssefkasim7556]

What’s your favorite PAF pickups or the ones that sound closest to Peter Green’s tone?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Ooof - how deep into the weeds do you want to get about magnet flip vs reverse winding?

[@johnmirabile3535]

Got the 59's, the low winds, and now i have NOS coming...I hear the nazally thing the originals have in these NOS....I dont know how else to describe, but funny enough, i only heard new wire sound like that with a2 magz...Like the kz's from throwback, one of my favs.. something about a good wind with A2s that appeal to me....Was gonna ask Marc to put them in the Nos, butyours sound to good to touch ill mess around with mags if needed....Matt, how do you feel about magnets changing tone? . Do you get what im saying about A2 magnets and a medium output wind? The KZs ae loosely wound, with a hump in the middle of each coil, the machine just winds them that way...Your video with the KZs? are on a black beuaty if im correct? So, the sound was darker, still a nice pair...Anyway? A2s? whats your take?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

A lot depends on the specific magnet manufacturer, since there’s a lot of variability from company to company, but in general, A2’s and slightly degaussed A5’s are my favorites.

[@johnmirabile3535]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 Right! And i also love the sound of A2s, but i take it that its weaker so, low wind wont work as well? 1 know marc uses degaused a5's, for his PAF.....Thats a weakened A5? As if emulating an old weakened PAF mag, right?? is that the point? Sorry for the questions, i took your word on the MOJOS and you were 100pct on point...So, once in a while i like to pick your brain, plus we like the same sounds...I read your video descriptions and were like minded, i hear simular nuances...you have a good ear for sure!

[@johnmirabile3535]

And the only thing IMO all these great winders are yet to acheive so far? is, that sizzle, or crackle, the good, old ones have...I wouldnt call it a breakup effect, its just apart of the many nuances, my 1960 pafs do it a little bit, but not enough....Its like a live wire undertone thing, when you hit certain notes or listening to Claptons beano album, or even, a good recorded bursts on you tube...The best way i can describe it is? like the sound of striking a match,,,,,, that sizzle...If i had to bet it has something to do with the old alloys, and wire, interacting...The way they were manufacturing, and formulating the stuff at the time..The old ones just have that character, like there alive, sounds crazy, but theres a reason we go nuts for those sounds, its no coincedence, i was born way past the burst craze in 1980, and didnt pay attention, or know what a burst was, until little over 2 yrs ago...I didnt hear a re/issue and go bonkers, there great, but my cousin, played me a beano tune, i was like wtf is that? I always wrote, sang, but more soul/Rnb stuff, when i heard that, hes like this is what you have to do! i started playing guitar immediatly....It was like getting hit by lighting....lol no joke! It was like a spiritul awakening lol, some ppl have dreams, NDE'S, visions, I heard Clapton on A 59 or 60 LP lol

[@nickhammick5777]

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[@CS_Murphy_R9]

Am i understanding things right about these that these limited 59's with old wire are just 5% better than the standard 59 clone i can get from Mojo now? Their 59 clone is A4 not A5 like these i believe? I can sacrifice 5% and still be very happy. I know one thing i am not waiting 2 years for a set of SD's even though the majority have stated his are the closest to a old P.A.F.

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

I think you’re confusing Mojo UK with Mojotone. Mojo UK doesn’t have pickups with A4 magnets

[@jamesoconnor5154]

Matt, can you tell me your favorite paf set? I'm looking for a set for my r9 and I have yet to find the one that makes me happy

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@jamesoconnor5154before I answer your question, can I ask what your issue with the R9 is?

[@jamesoconnor5154]

@mattthrun-nowicki8641 well when I got it I wasn't a big fan of custom buckers and I wanted to try and get the page TSRTS tone so I bought a set of rewinds they were good but didn't really get as close as I'd liked. So I got another rewind set, and they were good. I just wasn't really happy with A2's. I should have got the A5's. Right now I have a set of sunbear's in there right now. The bridge is really bright. Like it some how hits a frequency that feels like an ice pick. It's really painful after like 10 15 mjns or so. So far the sunbear have been the best for my guitar anyway.

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@jamesoconnor5154 So much is dependent on your whole signal chain. My personal favorites are these Mojo UK’s PAF’s and the various Stephen’s Designs I’ve had. Close on their tail are the Rewind 58’s, Peter A Flynn PAF’s, Throbak KZ-115’s, and a few others

[@jamesoconnor5154]

@mattthrun-nowicki8641 what is the mojo uk set like ? Why is it your favorite? What do you think of the stephens design? Are they similar?

[@jamesoconnor5154]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 ?

[@stompdancer62]

What magnets in this nos set ?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

A5

[@burt2800]

Hi Matt, was windering if you were using 550k pots in this vid? Or any hardware upgrades? Nice playing and lovely sound!

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Yes- VIP 550k pots and Luxe Bumblebees. And I have RK’s saddles in my ABR-1 (www.ebay.com/itm/324630030734?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mmmk6zi-Q-2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=hK4KP7wWRkG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)

[@burt2800]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 The good stuff I see! Have you ever tried Faber hardware?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@burt2800 Yes- Faber is good, albeit slightly bassy

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@Thomas Swan I’d also recommend trying the Jupiter Bumblebee clones- tried them recently and they might even be better than the luxe

[@jeanchristophevalero4267]

WoW sound great But I can’t see a big difference with the normal set ?? You can see a difference when you play it ? What is your top 3 paf with all this pickups you can play Love the cherry wizz pickups !

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

I’d say the regular set gets you 95% to this set. Whether it’s worth the price tag is subjective. Mojo Uk’s/Crazyparts, Stephens Design, and Rewinds are at the top for me

[@johnkas23]

Hey Matt. Got a set of these for my 74 black beauty. Fiddling currently with pickup heights…how did you go about setting yours? I have to say so far I havent gotten a sound like your nice tone in the video. Hoping its a matter of tweaking as they replaced a set of ox4 that sounded very good.

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

I generally leave my bridge pretty close to the strings and the neck pickup nearly at the same level as the pickup rings

[@burt2800]

Have you found success? I got a set (non NOS wire) and it took me a few days to get it right since they're so sensitive. In the end the difference between pretty good and perfect was less than a quarter turn. Don't forget you can make them more single-coily by raising the screws thus increasing the mismatch between the coils. That will also have the effect of giving more of the tone that corresponds to the placement of the screws. So if you raise the screws on the neck pickup it will become more bassy since they're closer to the neck. But it will also become thinner because of the mismach. In the bridge it will become a bit warmer. I've tried lowering the screws to below the bobbin which accentuates the pole pieces. Like that it was possible to get a neck pickup sound with very little bass. Keep on tweaking and don't be shy to experiment with more extreme or unusual settings.

[@johnkas23]

Thanks David. I did persevere in fact and oh my god, they sound superb. You are right one needs to take it slow to get it right and half a turn can show a noticeable difference. I opted for pretty much not raising pole pieces on neck but did radius the bridge ones. Neck humbucker is also a bit higher on treble side with bass being level with cover. Will do a video too i think as apart from Matts there doesnt seem too many on Mojo and Marc deserves it.

[@sakitakungtyan]

@@johnkas23 Do you like it better than the OX4's? I have a couple of sets coming in next month.

[@johnkas23]

@@sakitakungtyan I do, but the ox4s were superb and made me keep the guitar they were in which I was about to sell because the original 1974 t tops sounded crap. I just think these ones are closer to the PAF sound as I have it in my head. Did a short video on these i uploaded. Cheers

[@johnmirabile3535]

Hey Matt, hes finally taking orders at Mojo....Do you think its worth, going for the NOS wire? Or a standard PAF, would do just as well?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

There’s maybe a 5% difference between them, and the regular Mojo’s are stellar to start with. But if you wanna chase that last five for double the price, go for it. PS- the LTD’s also feature better cover aging

[@johnmirabile3535]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 TY Matt, im just a maniac, cant stop buying them...i think ill do the regular, i have real, 1960 pafs, there sick factory o.o.p, dave stephens, loves them, plus Dave lent me a set of his old protos for my record, i got tyson tone p&g's, also great, in a 335... and just scored a $1200 nos wire for 150 bucks on reverb, some guy bought an r9 with them in it, put the CB's back.. there general vintage tone, or GVT from Spain, ever hear of them?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@johnmirabile3535 I have, and bought their A2 and A5 magnets, but never tried GVT pickups

[@johnmirabile3535]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 The aesthetics are great, i loved them, but Dave, shot me down, lol he didnt concur,,,,after he explained to me what he heard, i think he was right, but his work sets the bar pretty high....I think Mojo, does his own metal and magnet work, thats why, he and sd, are top makers..Amazing, you change, a small pct. of the alloys, plastics, wire, around, and they miss the mark, i cant beleive how much goes into them....ty again..enjoy your day..

[@baroqueguitarist5673]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 looking to order nos wire mojo uk PAFs. Looking for the best paf out there and I remember you recommending these out of all the top of the line PAFs you have tried. What magnets do you recommend for the mojo uk PAFs for both bridge and neck positions ? Both the same or different magnets for the bridge and neck ? A2? A3? A5? Etc?.. thanks. Looking to do Allman like slide and love claptons beano and cream tone. I also love twang and Dynasonic pickups. Microphonic a bit is also a preference because the original PAFs had some microphonic qualities which in my opinion is part of the secret sauce of the original PAFs. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated since you’ve played all these and the nos PAFs from Uk mojo cost a pretty penny. Love your playing and channel as well. All the best

[@Felipe-pb9gu]

Nice tonel! Do you think it's worth the extra money?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Not necessarily- I think it takes from 90% to 95% of the PAF- whether that’s worth it is up to you.

[@MW47742]

If you want that sound yes, if you don’t no.

[@Superchixxx]

Is this with vintage wire?

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

Yup

[@Superchixxx]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 Sounds great! I’m going to order a set 👌

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@Superchixxx you won’t regret it

[@Superchixxx]

@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 Thanks! Vintage wire gives that little bit extra in terms of “wooliness” or graininess! Love my Vintage Wire Wizz and hard to play anything else! Will let you know once I get them in a couple of months. Love the videos, your tone and playing. Thanks for helping me choose!

[@mattthrun-nowicki8641]

@@Superchixxx Let me know! NOS wire definitely adds something. Admittedly maybe only 10%, but it’s not a 10% you’re gonna get otherwise