NewJeans Contract Clause? Loosemble & Fromis_9 LEAVE Agencies & Other K-Pop News

[@FallforcupidD]

THIS IS HOW I FIND OUT ABOUT FROMIS_9 😭😭

[@---KUPOP---]

gurl, me too

[@pinkcapybara2]

LITERALLY ME RN WHAT IS GOING ON NOT FROMIS_9 😭😭😭

[@AnHuynh01101]

Revolution inside Hybe or what? First NewJeans now Fromis_9. What did BSH do?

[@motomamiii]

LITERALLYYYYYYY IM GOING INSANE

[@mautre]

ME TOO!!!!!!! 😮😮😮

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

No, what IS actually going on in 2024 K-pop, because 3 groups disbanding IN ONE WHOLE DAY, is bloody INSANE!

[@AnHuynh01101]

And 2 of them under Hybe :))

[@Noshadelovely]

Bloody, u must be British?😁

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@NoshadelovelyLmao only half British 😂

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@AnHuynh01101exactly 😳

[@Noshadelovely]

@ Lol

[@Miren-1331]

To be honest, it was already expected that fromis_9 wouldn't renew their contract, but honestly, it's so sad because they were all so talented, but Pledis is just a bad company. The reason SVT do well is because they're basically a self-producing group; otherwise, they might have been neglected to like Nuest. Although I don't want to accept it, I hope the girls all have a bright and happy future going forward.❤😭

[@sradhashibu18]

Seventeen is one of the biggest K-pop groups and played a crucial role in saving Pledis Entertainment from the brink of bankruptcy, turning it into a successful company. Similar to how BTS propelled BigHit to success, Seventeen is the primary reason behind Pledis' achievements. Naturally, Pledis prioritizes Seventeen, as their popularity and performance outshine others. In contrast, NU'EST struggled with low album sales, poor chart performance, and limited popularity, and the same applies to fromis_9. Ultimately, for companies, it’s all about business, and they focus on those who perform well.

[@Miren-1331]

​@@sradhashibu18 I agree and your right and please don't misunderstand. I'm a Carat and I love SVT and know how hard they worked for the company and honestly, they deserve everything they get and more, but Pledis didn't give enough effort into Nuest or Fromis_9 from the beginning.

[@villain__9]

​@@sradhashibu18 fromis_9 was doing well with sales, charts and popularity. 2022 was a great year for them and then Pledis decided to not give them a comeback for a whole year. I think we should stop defending this behaviour, if Pledis wanted to promote them they would.

[@fromisgunner]

​@@sradhashibu18 the problem is they were consistently 100k+ album sellers and charting well in Korea but Pledis NEVER capitalized on any momentum they had and never promoted them overseas. Pledis is allergic to making their girl groups successful

[@minhmeo5010]

​@@fromisgunner pledis or Hybe? acquired Pledis and put these girls in the basement. Before that, they were doing well. Everything halted when Hybe decided to launch their first gg Lesserafin. No hate towards Lesserafin but Hybe just try to get rid of their competitors. Otherwise what can be a reason for this

[@koto2u]

Orbits have been through so much already, First Chuu, then Loona, now Loosemble 😭😭😭

[@CRaXII]

We're used to it. We and members always show up to support each other. All the way

[@willowisaqt]

bro we can never rest 😭

[@rmj9693]

But didn't they only have a 1 year contract and that time has come?

[@pengiPenguin]

holy fuck youre right

[@Leah-dz8fy]

Wait, what's happening with Chuu?

[@sound_of_chaos]

I've been saying, fromis_9 is the true group who's been mistreated. They've been thrown into the dungeon and forgotten about

[@diaphoni]

I agree, saw them at Kcon and was sad that they seem to get zero promotion

[@ajjames1960]

cringe because u dont know what happen in peoples lives. touch some grass lmfao

[@nicoleloss7987]

The y were manger by pledis entertainment

[@Nchallah-u6z]

Hybe. Part of BSH’s plan in buying all these labels was to eliminate competition. He was trying to buy SM also. Wonder if he was going to slow-kill Aespa also.

[@diarythatyouforgot8704]

I'm sad when they still in pledis. But i'm also sad when they disband.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

I think we can all come to SOME agreement that, 2022 will forever be the grand year for 4th generation GG groups. 2024 is one of the saddest :(

[@pruitv1]

just everglowup aka choujimi ningverse winterosy aedark thewoo hooned peachxtaehyung psdoyoo etc trying to look nice after being xpsd with her alts nasrun and hypeboy with which she always wants all groups to d13.

[@lisapang1943]

People who claim they know what the contract says and that NJ are legal to terminate contract, don't know shit. NJ did not do proper legal filing to terminate contract. If you want to cancel a contract, you have to initiate the legal proceeding. Why should ADOR file a lawsuit? ADOR did not initiate the cancellation. NJ did and therefore NJ needs to file a lawsuit to terminate. How interesting that they didn't while complaining that ADOR & HYBE took no action. Do you know why that are not filing a lawsuit? When they file the lawsuit, this goes to court and now their complaints are subject to "discovery" which means NJ must provide proof of their accusations. It is easy to make things up or exaggerate all their "false hurts" for the media play. Once you are in court, your case get thrown out when you have no evidence. That is why NJ is not filing a lawsuit.

[@samanthamay9779]

Those girls live in a bubble. Reporter: Are you filing a lawsuit to terminate the contract Minji: I won't file a lawsuit to terminate the contract, I will just continue with my activities Reporter, is this a one-sided contract termination Minji:Hybe and Ador breached the contract, so we terminated blah blah blah Reporter: There are laws in place, so why are you insisting on this? Did you actually review the legal aspects Host: The members aren't fully aware of the derails 😳😳

[@crazysodan7934]

They really are..😂

[@sean-pl3us]

omg all new jeans antis are fucking lawyers with law degree and they know exactly whats going on with their contract. Maybe the girls should have consulted with you guys before making the moves!

[@WillTheRealBishPleaseStandUp]

⁠@@sean-pl3us i am a lawyer. i practice contract law in APAC region. and i can say with confidence nothing those girls said so far make sense legally. They should definitely consult a lawyer before speaking or just let their lawyers do the talking.

[@Schrei-d4z]

And your comment is stemming from 민법? Or your country's law?

[@toyland12]

That was WEKI MEKI who did their own final song and video. They were a really overlooked group.

[@ahuman3064]

Yes, Suyeon and Rina wrote Coincidestiny, but the MV looking cheap was just fantagio being a terrible company( if you watch the behind the scenes Suyeon even calls it a title track of an upcoming album, leading us to believe they had plans of a proper comeback, but the company scrapped them for whatever reason.)

[@cilynschannel7311]

I'm so happy for natty that she didn't debut in fromis-9 now she's shining in her current group now. remember you guys are all in rage because she deserve last spot now let's give her around of applause to natty because of hard work dedication perseverance. and not giving up to find a real family which is KISS OF LIFE💖

[@kirasatana3536]

W comment. Cuz I'm not I was one of those people who was mad she didn't debut from Idol School, but Natty makes me believe everything happens for a reason. I'm so happy for her

[@cilynschannel7311]

@@kirasatana3536 yeah I believe in that quote "that everything is happens for a reason"

[@Schrei-d4z]

KoL is a different breed. Along with XG, 2ne1, Sistar, New Jeans, Orange Caramel, FinKL, Mamamoo. I am not talking about level of popularity or how legendary the group is but they spear headed concepts. Their music is absolutely good too.

[@subpages]

You mean all the people that didn't support her solo like at all? Nice bit of theatre.

[@cilynschannel7311]

@subpages I'm just explaining that she didn't suffer like fromis9 that's why I'm happy for her thats all look what happened to group they barely have comeback and now this? About natty solo career ofcourse people have preferences sometimes in life you win and lose being soloist in Korea is hard people now a days prefer group like I'm happy for her that finally she found a company and group that take well eacg other

[@ild74]

Well. The company pays the rent, the managers, the flights, the hotels, the cars, the drivers, the clothes, the makeup artists, hair stylists, the studios, the songwriting, the songs, the dance practice halls, the choreographers, the extra dancers, the stage sets.....so they're going to "independently" go on to do all that?

[@Bai183]

You think they don’t have the connections with mhj and themselves?

[@Schrei-d4z]

Does your brain not work or does your 2 braincell think Hybe is the only company?

[@vanesalusaria7860]

Plus their sponsors pay Ador and Ador pays NJs - So are they going to ask the sponsors to pay them directly - what brand currently working with them will do this?? They will be opening themselves up to a lawsuit.

[@Schrei-d4z]

@vanesalusaria7860 ....are you braindead? It shows you never worked in your life or have no idea how things work lol Of course brands are paying Ador. NJ is fulfilling their work as logged in the contract PRIOR to termination. Imagine you work in mcdonalds as a cashier and thinking if you served your 2 weeks notice i.e. you already quit, just doing the last 2 weeks, you can take the money you handle? LMAO

[@viviz_fan.1]

​@@vanesalusaria7860if the termination remains uncontested or contested but affirmed by a court, NewJeans would take the pay and not ADOR cause they are the ones who breached the contract.

[@wsol80]

It sounds like media play. So far, NJ says they have terminated their contract with Ador. Ador says no you didn't, you need to keep coming into work. NJ goes back to work the next day under Ador. Nothing has changed. NJ is still working under their contract. IF they stop, then a lawsuit will come. Until then, they are still NJ and working for Ador/Hybe. Their statement doesn't mean anything unless they take action.

[@aleysacampbell8709]

exactly like u cant ust leave they appeared at the airport with ador staff and security

[@diarythatyouforgot8704]

I think they want a boycott. If their fans boycoted them, ador will lose and should terminate their contract. Dunno tho 🤷🏻

[@bqanto]

@@diarythatyouforgot8704 I really don't think Ador will waive a $400 million penalty.

[@Schrei-d4z]

This happened in my workplace when I was new lol, we got several employees who were "promoted" but only with workload. No increase, no title change. no nothing. They expressed their dissatisfaction with managers escalating a step higher everytime but they were dismissed. They did not file a case but an independent body filed a case for them and won. They were funded by the new company who acquired them. So good for them. Oh the Operations manager was kicked out, the loss of the top employees resulted to massive decline on operation.

[@Tiw111]

@@Schrei-d4zI’m genuinely kinda trying to see the correlation of those tha went through the “promotion” to Newjeans terminating contract verbally and Ador telling them to come back to work basically and work continuing the next day while Newjeans still says their contracts are terminated… without filing…

[@hiarii]

terminating your contract ≠ disbanding

[@cloud_spiky7]

‘Disbanded’ means the group has broken up. That’s not happened in any of the three cases.

[@thrifthour4857]

Exactly, and bunnies won’t ever let Newjeans disband at least so

[@mariasol1545]

id be surprised if newjeans have a career after this. The way this entire situation went down doesnt sit right with me. they are defending mhj... someone who no longer wants anything to do with them

[@Sushybububeeem]

I mean the groups broken up from the company /j

[@Blodhelm]

Real hard for a group to stick together when they don't have a company. Hopefully they can "Brave Girls" it but even they slowly lost members with all the changes and just time.

[@cloud_spiky7]

@@Blodhelm​​⁠Yeah it will probably be similar but BB Girls had a very low budget and they’re older so maybe had less enthusiasm. I’ll give it to NJ that they’re very determined, if not a bit naive!

[@hoonicekingg]

Fromis_9 is the group that is actually mistreated, gonna miss them sm 😭💔

[@nicoleloss7987]

Fromis9 contracts ends in December. They chose not to renew their contracts with pledis entertainment. They will be moving to a different company.

[@20f124]

Thank God no more pledis and hybe who did everything to make sure fromis suffered while their groups prospered. Free from that disgusting organization

[@Blodhelm]

I hope they stick together.

[@Once_2_Twice9]

Rn is a terrible time for gg stans.

[@9.2.12moons]

Fromis_9 one wasn't really unexpected because it seems like pledis only gives them comebacks when people noticed their absence. However, it's unfortunate that a group of extremely talented girls ended up under an unfortunate company. I'm glad they will get away from that shit company tho!!!!

[@Blodhelm]

They made damn fine albums. Love those girls.

[@viheart]

These girls are walking such a dangerous path, if this goes poorly they are going to be stuck in legal limbo, debt, and blacklisting for who knows how long like the oldest member is barely even 20 and they’re risking their entire career. Idk all we can really do is sit back and watch this mess continue to unfold.

[@aleysacampbell8709]

their fans are in a delulu world

[@hallooos7585]

@@aleysacampbell8709Not delulu when Hybe has a pattern of replacing none Bang PD groups watch them have a replacement for Fromis, a group handcrafted by Bang PD with less talent and skills, just like Gfriend with Le Sserafim, and Newjeans with Illit, the patterns are there!!!

[@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia]

​Im not sure I agree with this - HYBE has seven labels after all, but from what I can tell, Bang has nothing to do with what happens over at KOZ. But it's true that the other groups besides Seventeen were disbanded soon after they came to Hybe, and that is weird. @@hallooos7585

[@Odin4President]

​@@aleysacampbell8709 Is Delulu World that cult Hybe and Bangsihyuk is a part of?

[@Schrei-d4z]

Hmmm so would you keep working a job where you hate people and people hate you (this is not even it, but basically)? Fuck the career. Is the mental stress worth it? I feel like people say the girls are stupid for their decision but is also ranting about their 9-5...or has not even got a concept on working LOL Yes, their job is not 9-5. It is more 24/7 LOL If you got an office job you only have to deal with people you do not like for 8 hours. If you are an idol? And don't say "they knew what they are going into" while saying "the oldest member is barely even 20" under the same breath. Hybe is not THE career.

[@tasha8680]

My question is once their engagements are done once there brand contracts run up what the ? What if Ador/Hybe never sues them, sits and waits. what then they’ll just be sat on until they step up and negotiate or five years later. Just pointing those out. They can’t make new music, they can only do what’s already been arranged, but that has an end date.

[@eugenechale3265]

What if ? Man you think they can't terminate their contract ? 😂😂😂 Go and watch their press conference and stop listening to rumours and claims 🤣

[@Brilenciaga]

@@eugenechale3265you can’t just say “im terminating my contract” and everything work out like a after school special. Their contracts are in writing, therefore they need in writing, that their contracts are terminated and it doesn’t matter what their contracts say, that’s just fundamentally how contracts work. It doesn’t matter if they don’t want to go to court, some way somehow it has to be in writing that they are leaving

[@dmitrykim3096]

Yep the dude believes in everything​@@Brilenciaga

[@helenasouza9196]

​@@Brilenciaga You're assuming they didnt hand anything in writing to fornally let Ador know they até terminating their contracts. New Jeans might not have as much money as Hybe, but they certainly have money and clout enough to get some amazing lawyers on their side. It's dumb and naive to assume they're just 5 children throwing a tantrum with no back UP plan against a company like Hybe. It's ok to admit you have no idea about how korean law and this whole situation works. I'm also trying to educate myself and understand it

[@hanakei.crochet]

@@helenasouza9196 Even if they said in writing "we terminate our contracts", that doesn't mean it's official, or that it would protect them in court. If a court doesn't agree that Ador actually violated the contract, then NewJeans is the one in the wrong and they have to finish their contract or pay penalties plus extra damages for causing trouble.

[@Yoshiihsoy695]

New Jeans : “ We don’t feel safe or secure in our company and we want to leave “ Haters : “ OMG how selfish nobody is ever gonna hire them ! How dare they demand respect ! “

[@dmitrykim3096]

No kpop agency will tolerate newjeans situation as it can become a precedent that cant destroy the whole kpop scene

[@Maria-uv9pd]

Or it will make them promote their groups fairly. Maybe the idols need a little more autonomy?

[@dmitrykim3096]

@Maria-uv9pd they have to define it legally what is to promote fairly first.

[@dmitrykim3096]

@Maria-uv9pd look k am fine with contacts getting better and trainees having more freedom but I don't think that NewJeans represent poorly treated trainees

[@gundarvarr1024]

LOL YOU WISH, many labels already line up for them.

[@dmitrykim3096]

@gundarvarr1024 let's see what labels and what new contract will look like for them

[@nicoleloss7987]

Nj is still under contract with ador.

[@CallicoCritter_LV]

wrong

[@hanakei.crochet]

@@CallicoCritter_LV No, they're probably right. NewJeans doesn't have a written agreement nor court decision agreeing that the contract is nullified. And they have not paid the early departure fees either. They say Ador didn't meet their demands but if they didn't have legal right to demand those things in the first place, Ador has no obligation to comply, and NewJeans wouldn't be safe to use that as reason to terminate their contract.

[@thrifthour4857]

No They aren’t

[@FOHaab]

​@thrifthour4857 I'm sure no matter how many facts bunnies hear, you'll just scream "new jeans never die" and encourage them into a limbo of endless lawsuits that they will not win. I commend bunnie's iron clad delusion though.

[@skinnykween]

❌❌❌❌

[@scanspeak00]

I had no idea there were so many highly qualified lawyers in the comments section of Angelina's channel. It's amazing. 😆

[@Brilenciaga]

I remember when i was in school (k-8) every year our teachers would hammer in our minds the fact that, you are not always going to work with people you like. That’s how the world works, no one cares if you hate half the people you work with, work with them and do the job. The world doesn’t revolve around you and the things you like, you’re there to work not keke and make friendships bracelets. The way this ignore her ish is being brought up, you woulda thought the manager came up and smacked the crap out of her. Everyone has worked/attended school with people they don’t like, we have all ignored people we don’t like. I know I purposely avoid people who constantly cause/are around drama. We all ignore people who mess with us, walking away and ignoring them is usually what people tell you to do anyway, to avoid confrontation. Unfortunately for newjeans, people are seemingly avoiding them because they chose to openly side with and support a pedo and manipulator. Newjeans and some of their supporters/fans, because I know its not all, see mhj as god while everyone else can see she that she’s a lesser version of the devil. Calling her straight up the devil feels like dragging it a bit😂 but 👀 Its just wild that if mhj was a man then i doubt she would have anywhere near the same level of support. If she was still taking inspiration from pedo/incest works, having sleepovers at her apartment with the members and them calling her father? There’s no way people wouldn’t call her out

[@ajjames1960]

cringe because this people are different than most average people like you 😂 your so low in life that nobody cares while these people just existing put them in a higher hierarchy. it is what it is and thats facts 😂

[@mariamghani9421]

ikr???? it's wild how big this whole 'ignore her' debacle has become. mhj has literally raised self entitled brats who want everybody to kiss the ground they walk on like??? people are allowed to not like you??? people are allowed to ignore you??? ESP if you put them or someone they're concerned with through hell? I'm glad belift refused to apologize like these brats are literally convinced the world and everybody in it owes them something like give it a break.

[@howjealousareyouisalreadys7209]

Oh you're so miserable. Wish for the worst in your life 😊

[@AddieMoore-South]

Ok I understand now. NJ is working an angle to be able to get out of their contract without paying the millions of dollars in penalties. They ain't happy MHJ is gone. And just not happy with the company in general. And when you ain't happy with a company you leave understood. But they still working an angle to get out of that contract without paying the penalty. Meh that makes sense.

[@lisapang1943]

If you are unhappy with the company for whatever imagined and fake reasons, you can leave but you are required to complied with the terms of termination of contract. If there's penalty, then pay the penalty.

[@luvava9802]

@@lisapang1943 in normal situations theyd have to pay a penalty, but they had a pretty insane contract compared to most, one that was very humane and gave them legal leverage. in the contract it said if you ask ador to make amends and they dont do it in 14 days, then they can terminate no questions asked! its incredible!

[@lai122486]

But they didn't wait the 14 days. They were short a couple hours. ​@@luvava9802

[@goldyd144]

​@@luvava9802 I think ADOR can argue in court that didn't violate the contract because - 1) NewJeans made unreasonable demands, including a demand to hire a former employee to a position of power and asking them to make demands of employees not working at ADOR 2) they declared in their press conference that they didn't meet with ADOR 3) NewJeans declared that they're terminating their contracts before the deadline, which was technically before the 14 day deadline Of course, it all depends on what happens in court. I also think MHJ winning her first injunction on the basis that her actions never harmed ADOR might also come up in the case. If ADOR can prove that Hybe harming NewJeans isn't the same as ADOR harming NewJeans, then they'll have a strong case. At the same time, if NewJeans can prove that ADOR has repeatedly tried not to meet their demands and made their work environment hostile, then NewJeans has a case. I wonder how this is going to play out. 🤔

[@hanakei.crochet]

​@@luvava9802 Not exactly. The 14 day remedy clause is pretty standard for contracts of this nature. It's actually not special to NewJeans at all... the way Angelina is explaining it is really misleading. There are two big details that the vid kind of skipped over. First, the clause clearly talks about artists who violate their contract, not companies who violate the contract. So this clause may be irrelevant from the start. Secondly, it's important to understand what actually counts as violating the contract; NewJeans cannot demand something that they aren't legally entitled to. This is the issue with them demanding Min Heejin be reinstated as CEO; there's no way that's protected by their contract and it's definitely not something the law says they can demand that Ador do, either.

[@renay-cs7nq]

nooooo not fromis_9 too 😭

[@Kudejikashi]

the last obligated schedules go until last couple of days December, after that who knows how communication and activities will work

[@orbitsomnia]

What i dont buy with this whole situation is how they (mhj and nj now, following the footsteps of their "mom" 💀) keep making emergency press conferences, like how do they organize these so fast? Specially newjeans like, how did they let the press know all by themselves behind the company's back? Do they personally have all those contacts? For the livestream back then i can see them making everything by themselves, writing down what they wanted to say and making a new channel but a whole press conference? Seems fishy Also i think it's interesting how they went from "Min Heejin is irreplaceable and essential to NewJeans" to "The five of us are the essence of NewJeans" and "NewJeans never die", did anyone else notice that? This is all just media play, Hybe ain't the only one manipulating the masses, just saying

[@JustGotALife]

I mean everybody knows that. It's MHJ plan to take new jeans, and form a new company to go independent. It was either Hybe give MHj what she wanted or she do it this way

[@Ushionai]

The girls made it clear in their confrence the reason why they did it was because HYBE has been making nasty articles about the girls twisting their words or straight out making up lies about them. In order for there be no sort of misinformation and media play agaisnt them they decided to make a confrence (WHICH IS SMART)

[@mariasol1545]

id be surprised if newjeans have a career after this. The way this entire situation went down doesnt sit right with me. they are defending mhj... someone who no longer wants anything to do with them

[@Blodhelm]

This is more of a Korean thing. If they just try to work with the company and discuss things, the company can put out statements against them any time they like, which we have already seen. Their press conferences are how they can get ahead of HYBE's spindoctors.

[@seleneblack3061]

I didnt know artists were not supposed to speak their minds at conferences. Only agencies can do that.

[@MG322_88]

The 14 days thing would only apply to a proven violation... they cant claim violations without it being proven and then terminate the contract. Otherwise idols would do this all the time. They also can't and arent continuing independently. They dont own the name Newjean, the ip, music catalog, image, intellectual property etc. Which means they cant continue if the contract was actually terminated, otherwise theyd get hit with massive lawsuits. Also, only a court can decide if penalties will be paid or not lol

[@Sandyyyyyyyyyy]

I'm all kinds of confused about this. How did they terminate their contracts yesterday but still attend schedules today? Who is paying for the staff and accommodations? If it's ADOR, wouldn't NJ contract termination yesterday mean they have to go it alone and leave ADOR's accommodations immediately? Wasn't their letter 2 weeks ago just a list of demands, not notice of a contract violation? Wouldn't terminating your contract also include terminating all activities associated with your former company? I'm no lawyer, in Korea or otherwise, but this doesn't pass the basic smell test.

[@luxxsocial4175]

You don’t know their contract that’s why you can’t say this. MHJ very well could’ve put an humane clause in their contracts that protects them from all the things you’re talking about. You aren’t a lawyer and you don’t know what their contracts look like just stop.

[@Schrei-d4z]

This is under which clause of their contract? Under which KOREAN Civil Law? Can you expound?

[@Schrei-d4z]

@@Sandyyyyyyyyyy are you 8? They are fulfilling the schedules that were made PRIOR to contract termination. And yes, you are neither lawyer nor Korean. Get your nose checked. Even abroad, termination of contracts don't absolve one from fulfilling commitments made when the contract was still in place.

[@MG322_88]

@luxxsocial4175 lmao Hybe/Adores lawyers are the ones who finalize and draw up these contracts. MHJ had little to do with any of that. These girls were originally hybe employees before they made Adore and Hybe owns 80% of Adore meaning Hybe owns adore. You people are delusional thinking that they can pull this crap and that a billion dollar company wouldn't have clauses in the contracts to protect themselves. Also, nothing you just said has any value kid... No contract let's you claim a violation and just walk without proving violation. You don't have to be a lawyer to know this stuff. Seriously, you little kids that have no idea how businesses work hysterical

[@junkotamiya]

WEKI MEKI was the group who put in their own money into doing a farewell song release.

[@ahuman3064]

That's not true at all😭. Yes, they wrote the song, but that evil company cheapened out on the MV and promotions. Its actually worse than wkmk doing it themselves because on the behind the scenes they all seem very happy and excited to be back together, and are calling coincidestiny the title track of an upcoming album. The girls were lied to!

[@Blodhelm]

Pristin V's "Spotlight" comes to mind when this kind of thing happens.

[@Myelllie]

Curios thought, can ADOR even make the staff from BELIFT apologize? Like how is that a demand, arent they two different companies with different management and HR or whatever?

[@jantjenotjanche]

They can't MAKE them apologize. It's just important from Ador's side to have proof they "fought" for Newjeans by standing up for them against BeLift (I'm not saying whether it's sincere or not)

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

Yea that's out of adore's control maybe that's why they said " most of what new jeans want are out of our control"

[@inferiorinferno8859]

Exactly, this is why Ador stated they cannot meet their demands within 14 days. I read an article about the situation myself including their statements and they point out how they cannot meet the demand within such a short notice when other parties are involved. Which is fair.

[@skinnykween]

yes… if they tried which they didnt!!!

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

@@skinnykween adore did say they tried to have a meeting with belift and they refused , like they said some thing are out of there control , like once someone tried to make me apologize for something I didn't do and I refused and walked away , you can't force anyone to apologize, i think new jeans and adore are in the wrong , with new jeans being just as stubborn and insincere as the company themselves which they love to call out a lot , they haven't even filed lawsuits to terminate their contracts they just left , which is very illegal to do , I feel like everything could be settled so easily , one party wants everything to go their way and the other party are just being greedy , it's sad to see and all this happened because of mhj 🥲 because since they "terminated " their contracts technically adore can cancel all there events which is planned by adore and their brand endorsement which are signed by hybe and ador , so I wonder what they will do then , they really don't have a upper hand in this situation, they'd probably just have to be shelved and wait for their contract to end if they are planning to leave without penalty , because technically they breached trust of contract first with the first press conference they did , and even if they didn't and adore did they'd still have to pay penalty because it just doesn't work like that , well on the other hand they'll get a break from all of this , i can only imagine how mentally draining this is to them

[@virtualhyune]

three of my fav ggs disbanded in one day BYEEEE 💀💀

[@Blodhelm]

Hopefully they can rise from the ashes.

[@danjeffers]

How is NJ (the five of them) acting as a collective legal entity? Aren't most kpop contracts between the individual and the company? May be an obvious explanation, but I'm curious.

[@PiscesEnfp]

Good question, I had the same impression... maybe there are more than one contract...?

[@allie3482]

I’m assuming they have the same contract terms and cross checked before starting this process. Then it would make sense how they can all operate as a unit because there are not caveats that differ between individual contracts.

[@hanakei.crochet]

They probably do have individual contracts but they're probably almost identical in how they're set up. Them doing these press conferences or all working with the same legal team is down to the mutual agreement of each of the members to work together while they work out this whole termination thing.

[@lisapang1943]

The contract is to their individual personal names. The girls did not register to incorporate New Jeans as their own. New Jeans IP and everything related to NJ legally belongs to ADOR/HYBE. This is "trademark". There is no contract with New Jeans. NJ is not a person.

[@vanesalusaria7860]

They are individual entities (50/50 situation where the company went after them individually) - NJs the brand would also be owned by Ador - That is why some companies can bring in and push out members - I would think that the contract with the sponsors is signed by Ador on behalf of New Jeans the brand (no specific name of the artist) - also compensation would go to Ador not the girls upfront - the girls get paid by Ador not the sponsors. I am very curious as to how they will continue with their brand activities when they are not "under contract" - who will pay them? are they working for free? cause acc to them they are no longer with Ador but their sponsorships are handled by Ador like What is happening?????? Also name one brand that would jump into this drama and pay the girls separately cutting out Ador - that is a literally contract violation. No brand would touch this with a pole.

[@ORBITOT12]

Hopefully LOONA will reunite and fromis_9 find another company

[@nifemialabi4955]

I’m only sad about fromis_9, I really loved supersonic and stay this way 🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@cool677plusmaa]

Didn’t know I was gonna learn about loossemble this way like I’m shook to my fckn CORE !!!

[@Blodhelm]

We still got ARTMS, maybe they can join up?

[@Sakura-ko9gh]

At the end, new jeans lawyer might be smart but they don’t know who they are fighting with? It’s Kim&chang ( Korean top law firm) and they were SAMSUNG layers and they were on hybe side and their lawyer as well. So I wanna say to new jeans lawyer “ BRING IT ON” BRING.IT.ON, LETS FIGHT

[@LoveButterfly999]

😑

[@AnHuynh01101]

That’s the reason I use Iphone :))

[@eugenechale3265]

If they don't who they are fighting why will they start😂😂😂😂😂

[@Sakura-ko9gh]

@@AnHuynh01101 so that means you are using iPhone which has Samsung chips and battery in it ? 😎👍🏻

[@Sakura-ko9gh]

@@eugenechale3265 first of all improve your English, go back to your desk and keep studying

[@Ty-ow1yr]

Really truly devastated abt loosemble it just came out of no where 😭

[@jcasa3646]

Seriously, if that first letter legitimately represented a lawyer (and not just a fan posing as a lawyer lol), it would be worth venturing to say that it's a NJ lawyer peddling a one-sided version for support of their case under the perceived benefit of NJ alone. This is a common tactic to gain public opinion. On that note, re: the Article 15 clause and supposed grounds for cancellation requirements, Ador nonetheless did send a 26 page response to NJ within the 2 wk grace period described and just prior to their press conference. And in their press conference, NJ simply ignored the contents of the response and referred to it as "insincere", then continued with their press conference. So, if this is the requirement, then technically, NJ's contract was not terminated. In this, the optics suggests that NJ is insincere, deflecting and projecting as they allowed for no time to absorb or sincerely respond to the response, or perhaps, had no intention to. These tactics appear to have everything to do with trying to help get MHJ back her job after she was caught breaching trust (the case where Ador/HYBE brought receipts for in court and MHJ brought hearsay, hence, MHJ's ultimate demotion). To be fair, MHJ played a legal game, forcing her employer/financier to do in kind, and MHJ essentially lost. In regards to the "HYBE PR staff member" who corrected the # of NJ albums sold in Japan, there was already an official statement put out that it was in respect to the sake of transparency, given HYBE's position (with the status of a #1 conglomerate in the business, HYBE is closely scrutinized by the gov and legally bound to provide transparency in such matters) and the correction was made that NJ sold closer to 50k albums in Japan, not the falsely reported figure of millions of albums. It's worth mentioning, btw, that BELIFT has filed a lawsuit (pending) against MHJ, translated (in part): "Belift Lab announces that we will take legal action, both civil and criminal, against former CEO Min Hee-jin's side and those posting malicious content, in order to hold them accountable and protect our artists and staff." It appears no other artists within the HYBE umbrella are in support of MHJ/NJ tactics, and some actually have their own legitimate beef against MHJ/NJ that shouldn't be disregarded. Conflicts that were unable to be resolved through one-on-one communication will now have to be hashed out in court. With that, 7 KZbinrs are being currently sought after so to be served suit. So it's probably a good idea to keep in mind that the simplified bulleted response from Ador to NJ could have everything to do with not disclosing too much in public, as there are pending lawsuits waiting to be heard in court. This is a typical consult. Gotta say though, it is funny how NJ can supposedly terminate their contract like they were simply terminating a magazine subscription (is that how it's done in SK?). But seriously, NJ is risking a LOT, cherry-picking for the sake of trying to elevate MHJ through all kinds of tactics. Somehow, they seem convinced that they're being superheroes. But from an outside perspective, they seem naive and clearly being taken advantage of through the machinations of MHJ - the one person who stands to gain the most, and the person who's been caught in a multitude of lies, but uses the media (who love drama that fills their pockets) and the girls to skew public opinion. Personally, MHJ appears very capable at providing lessons on how to manipulating legal boundaries in SK, and is very apt at using the media and NJ fans for self-benefit. Otherwise, she does not appear to be coming from an altruistic stance in the least.

[@sean-pl3us]

" NJ simply ignored the contents of the response and referred to it as "insincere", then continued with their press conference." - They had a clear list of demand, and the adors response was not to meet those demands but to lay out more excuses in a typical coporate ways. They fact that you worded this as "they simply ignored" and claimed it was "insincere" tells me you're biased for a mega corporation. Funny. Perhaps they WERE insincere?? the fact that they didn't do shit until the last day of the grace period? "So, if this is the requirement, then technically, NJ's contract was not terminated." - this is funny - The requirement is that ador accpeted their requested changes sent 2 weeks ago, and not some letter that eventually circles back to "we won't do shit" - "NJ's contact was not terminated" wdym? They terminated the contract. The question is if the contract termination is valid or not. Very weirdly phrased "deflecting and projecting as they allowed for no time to absorb or sincerely respond to the response, or perhaps, had no intention to." - You are acting like NJ gave ador the 2 week notice out of thin air. This as been going on for months and ador did nothing. As Minji said in the press conference perfectly, the Ador had no intentions or inititives to take ANY actions unless NJ moves first. Under their contract Ador has a duty to protect them, and their responses has been very dog-on-the-leash. "she was caught breaching trust" - You say everything else like its some fiction yet you state this as a fact. Its an on-going dispute. Nothing has been concluded yet you paint this picture. Clear sign you have a set conclusion and you're fitting everything into your pre-concluded conclusion "It's worth mentioning, btw, that BELIFT has filed a lawsuit (pending) against MHJ" - Its funny that you leave out some important facts. MJH also filed a counter lawsuit towords them - whats actually worth mentioning, btw, is that BELIFT filed CIVIL lawsuit against MHJ, while MHJ filed CRIMINAL lawsuit agaisnt them. This says a lot. "It appears no other artists within the HYBE umbrella are in support of MHJ/NJ tactics" - I dont even need to say anything. You are either making shit up or turning an blind eye. "it is funny how NJ can supposedly terminate their contract like they were simply terminating a magazine subscription" - You give them so much shit for leaving a company that had plans from 2023 to get "rid of NJ and make a new one"? It never fails to amaze me that all the "progressive foreign fans" who really are just shallow white suburban liberals who gave the Big Three so much shit for workers right abuses, yet you are very much willing to dick ride HYBE.

[@guyschill2059]

I definitely don't think a response counts at "correcting" as written on their clause since they didn't comply with the demands, now I don't know if these demands do actually count as breach tho

[@inferiorinferno8859]

@@sean-pl3us You can see in Angelina's video that what you are saying is false. Ador DID try to meet their demands, but in case of stuff like the Belift apology, it is Belift who refused. It's difficult to actually meet all their demands within 14 days when outside parties are involved as they stated. That's not an excuse. You are the one who is clearly biased and doesn't wants to accept the truth. That NJs themselves are lying about Ador's response.

[@sean-pl3us]

@inferiorinferno8859 bro literally go read the demands and tell me again ador met their demands because are you choosing to be stupid or is this intentional

[@seleneblack3061]

@@inferiorinferno8859 Ya but they did mention in the press conference that the they believe that the third party that is hybe and ador are already one body. So its upto the court to decide if they feel the reasons are valid or not. That is if ador decides to sue

[@RapIsDeadly]

Fromis9 had a great string of comebacks. The last 5 were 10 star songs...and they hit them out of the park. What a shame they're gone. Sometimes I just don't get KPOP companies.

[@RapIsDeadly]

Me too...they were a really great group. So sad

[@Lin_380]

Queen has posted ✨

[@retrogirl2498]

The girl group apocalypse is upon us and I hope everyone is okay, taking care of themselves, we don’t lose any more groups and that we are able to listen to new releases by them in the future

[@twofacedmiku]

The newjeans situation has escalated so much more than I originally thought it would

[@marianne8727]

lol. Same for all of us, I guess!

[@khuantru]

I think I understand, but we need to see the actual contract. If they all signed it.. then there is still a possibility that there is some fine / penalty they have to pay back to the agency / company. No one can get out of a contract because they feel like it, unfortunately that's the world we live in and that's how companies run. Contracts are designed to benefit 'them' not 'you'.

[@seleneblack3061]

@@khuantru Someone should move to court for that . Neither of them seems to want to

[@khuantru]

@@seleneblack3061 exactly, it's all confusing. What's confusing is the agency are keeping quiet 'sort of' or tip toeing with their response to NJ emergency meeting. Most corporate companies don't usually play games like this and will go to court and get finically paid by penalties regardless of the group / persons entertainment status depending if 'they' break it. Contracts are never 'easy' they are usually riddled with responsibilities that one must do in order to be fulfilled & 100% they usually contain fines for breaking contracts.

[@zeyv4551]

Good luck in court. Do you think those one-sided allegations will get the contract voided. NJ better get a lawyer, a good one with that. Ador has documentation on all that they have done to address the issues. Hybe has the best lawyers in S. Korea. Get ready. 😂

[@CallicoCritter_LV]

they have sejong lololol. kim and chang lost all their recent cases you muppet

[@RosieJosieCatholicWorker]

And Hanna’s case was thrown out because it was paper thin. Someone not waving to you in hallway isn’t litigious.

[@seleneblack3061]

Didnt they already lose a lot? 😂

[@bqanto]

It doesn't seem silly to you all because you have incorrect information about the nature of that document. That's why you say it's clear evidence. You still don't want to understand that that document is not the type of document you imagine. Haven't you noticed that all the people who are adults and work, among the commentators, don't give any weight to that document, while the teenagers think it's clear evidence of another teenage nonsense like the label that boycotts the artist? These are arguments that are fine for a fanfiction, but in the world of adults, educated and working people, they are just childish chatter. Nothing that has any legal meaning. Teenagers tend to think that in court you go to "protest and complain".

[@wAaAAAaHhh]

As a Loosmembles (since hi high loona), Fromis_9 (for the past 4 years), and Newjeans (since debut) Stan, I’ve decided I’m taking a break from kpop until the new year. I shall be back later, and see if anything’s gotten better…

[@Blodhelm]

It'll be rough. Pristin, Gugudan, Weki Meki, and we still don't know about GIdle and Red Velvet for sure other than it doesn't look good.

[@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia]

fromis_9 would have done so, so well if Pledis had invested in them properly. If they weren’t going to treat them well, they should have just terminated the contract in 2021 instead of letting them languish like this.

[@getgreatstuff88getgreatstu8]

New Jeans is still business as usual. They are now in Japan and just performed as New Jeans after they announced their contract termination. Its a show of defiance and a show for the camera. Business as usual means contract is still in continuation.

[@angeldelmoroable]

It's not hard to understand, they still have contract obligations from before this whole fight began, if they don't keep up with the activities, they'll be held liable to be sued. What they did at the press conference was say that starting today they won't be participating in any activity set up after November 29, and consider their obligations to their contract null.

[@6tribes]

it wasn't defiance it was a commitment

[@Clara-xk3uv]

​@@angeldelmoroableyes but emphasis on "consider". They're going to get sued regardless

[@hanimcko]

@@Clara-xk3uvcorrect but their confident in their case and by not filing a lawsuit they can stay active the whole suit because they are not filing only responding that’s why they want Ador to sue first Ador is kinda forced to sue eventually now that NewJeans is not

[@wsol80]

​@@angeldelmoroableIf they terminated their company contract any existing schedules are also terminated. They are not separate. So far their statement is just media play. They are still showing up for work.

[@rubiirae]

I'd love to see the Belift Lab's manager that Hanni accused of him/her ignoring her in the hallway sue Hanni for defamation and emotional damage from workplace bullying.

[@FOHaab]

Lowkey same. Hanni seemed to relish in her position above that manager in the public eye too much. It made her pretty unlikeable. Now _that_ is bully behavior.

[@Blodhelm]

More likely they're going to see what their bosses really think of the decision that was probably an order.

[@seleneblack3061]

I am sure he would be excited to show his face and details to the media as well. As u know court info is public and can be accessed

[@phongthammavong4351]

Nooooo LOOSEMBLE!!!!! 😭 Hopefully this must happen in order for OT12 to regroup… wishful thinking though.

[@kuyab9122]

MODHOUS

[@orbitsomnia]

Yeojin did add Loona back on her ig bio and hyeju said on a msg app that her plan is set and we/they will keep seeing eachother so there's some hope still (some orbits are betting on mod haus like the comment above)

[@Blodhelm]

Add in Chuu and Yves and we could get the band back together. A fanciful dream I know, but a good one.

[@aeong_bread]

the wendy thing is CRAZY, like that is such a tame photo to garner such a negative response. people are nuts omg, we frickin love u wendy 😭 newjeans, loossemble and fromis_9... to FREEDOM!!! and yes.. perhaps loona reunion :3

[@Baddiesc7gn]

HYBE told them they expect them to continue their schedule. If they leave, HYBE will file suit. They will not settle. NJ are not smart-they were reading from their computer to try to answer reporter questions. Who decides the violations? The court. NJ does not make the decision that the contract was violated. So, they have violated the contract. How is that smart? Did you see a lawyer standing with them? This is HYBE. They have the number on lawyers on retainer. During the press conference they admitted when questioned that they basically have not figured out how they are “ going to do what they want” without a manager. So, HYBE the parent company is watching them duck up. Mistreated? They have each received 5 million in less than 2 yeas after debut without a proven track record. One album is not a track record. They are so ego driven, they do not acknowledge how privileged they are. Now, they have a sense of entitlement. MHJ made Fake plagiarism allegations to hide the fact that she wanted to steal a company she didn’t own. They were the favorite child so to speak. Bang gave MHJ a golden opportunity. She did not invest one dime of her own money into Ador or New Jeans, but at the end of the day she was conspiring against the company that paid her more than any other label’s CEO. Plus, since she was teacher’s pet, Bang loaned her almost 20 million of his own funds so she could buy shares. They mentioned they have a concert coming up? If their contract is terminated, what concert? What is their new name? They already stole the name and concept from a MX girl group called Jean. Whose paying the road manager. The bills? Next lesson Humility. If they were with a US label and they behaved like they did with HYBE, The company would bench them. They are not going to generate sympathy because once adult netizens learn about their perks, millions paid-they will turn on them and the parents. K netizens are cruel when they are angry.

[@Ushionai]

Guys. Not all idol contracts are the same. The reason why newjeans are able to do this is because MHJ when they worked on their contract she made it as humane as possible. Of course not every idol can do this. But this just shows how idol contracts can be humane is just companies choose NOT to make it easy for idols. The question is why are SOME kpop fans wanting newjeans to go through the hardships an idol would go through under a horrible slave like idol contract. Isn't good that the girls are able to leave their nasty company in a legal just way when they given their company plenty of time to fix their sht and nothing was done? After all contracts are a two way stream not a one way.

[@liliii4130]

Exactly, it seems like some people are some kind of sadistics who enjoy thinking about the suffering of others... like... NJ knows better than us about THEIR OWN contract!!!

[@addy8078]

It’s just because HYBE is saying the opposite, and I know HYBE definitely knows their own contracts. No one wants them to suffer, it’s just very delusional to be blindly optimistic in this situation.

[@skinnykween]

CLOCK ITT!!!

[@yyby_]

why would those ppl say all that to wendy😭 its a normal photo, how chronically online do you have to be to think that pic was bad

[@Blodhelm]

Cretins with nothing better to do.

[@BigTop0312]

The absolute devastation of an Orbit on Thanksgiving... I just need some SPACE 💜 to mourn

[@tsukasa6364]

Why is this happening with Loossemble???? I have been listening to their last release nonstop whyyyyy

[@kuyab9122]

MODHOUSE

[@Dreamyvinini]

same

[@Blodhelm]

@@kuyab9122 Joining with ARTMS, I hope.

[@jetdc1082]

With Fromis_9 it's defitnitely a case of contract expiring naturally and no agreement to renew. With Loossemble a lot of fans speculate it was only a short-term contract anyway. Sounds like contract ended naturally rather than termination.

[@rangelcarlos53]

Something tells me In few days will hear (G)I-DLE disbandment also!

[@motomamiii]

dont say that 😭😭😭😭 my heart cant take anymore

[@ddeonnuism]

STOP IT STOPPPPPFIERFURGY

[@hilarywellington725]

They might leave their crappy company, but they would find a way to be ALL together 👀

[@Noshadelovely]

Already been confirmed with Soyeon. I just talked to her a few days ago.

[@FluffyMarsu]

​@@Noshadelovelygirl who are you💀

[@NatalieOwuor]

lets just all agree that at the end of the day we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors...may everyone pay for whatever mistakes they have made regardless of the party and may everyone move on and better themselves in their respective regards ...hopefully all parties learn , move on and pursue and gain happiness , let us not forget everyone involved in this are but human beings who make mistakes (some bigger and more significant than others ...but still mistakes all the same)

[@lissywashere6040]

My 2018 debut girls are going, only Gidle is left and theyre still "negotiating"

[@24chibimanga]

seeing the newjeans news in my local newspaper this morning was not part of my 2024 bingo card

[@crazysodan7934]

And on what violations are they claiming that ador did? The fact that mhj is not reinstated as the ceo or the "bullying controversy" that other company did and ador just can't do anything about it?

[@csanoura13coulibaly63]

they said they are not working for hybe and adore anymore WHY in world they don't file a lawsuit if they have a lot of proof , that hybe and amor violate the contract? that doesn't make sense. they are still using NJ, u go perform to Japan as NJ, ur mistreated but u live in a penthouse, u have managers, make-up artist, everything, and u sill complaint. I thought they just wanted to do some music? why all that ? for what ? u want to terminate ur contract GO to court! that's it ! simple as that.

[@trueghozt1105]

You didn't understand anything from the video, that's clear.

[@Ankit-uv3yp]

If that part of contract is true, they can waltz out the front door penalty free. But neither party is legally filing anything, I am sure if we wait we can see NJ happily walk out from hybe in 2029...its just a waiting game now

[@eugenechale3265]

Waiting game . They are leaving. Never knew there were so many lawyers online 😂

[@Ankit-uv3yp]

@@eugenechale3265 for doing that also they have to go to the court, they are treating it like employees on probation period. (All this is in assumption that the above mentioned part of the contract is true)

[@hanimcko]

NewJeans and Ador are playing a game of cat and mouse NewJeans enforces the special clause to be free and independent and do whatever they want and still do all activities forcing Ador to chase them eventually Ador can’t just not move NewJeans is just gonna wait for that suit and stay active while the suit goes on crazy method

[@eugenechale3265]

@@hanimcko bro is just writing 🤣

[@eugenechale3265]

@@Ankit-uv3yp assumption Man go out and touch some grass

[@boomlove3454]

2024 is not a year for kpop 😂😂😂

[@Idontknowleeknow]

NJ wanna be lawyer without knowing the law and saying they don't have pay penalties because they worked is past 🤡

[@seleneblack3061]

@@Idontknowleeknow Do u really think a bunch of 16 year olds are saying all this stuff without help from a “ korean” legal firm?🤡 or that u know better than their lawyers and the actual people who signed the contract. They will have to pay penalties if the court decides , the last time i checked the company has still not sued. U seem to be the wanna be judge 🤡in this case.

[@Idontknowleeknow]

@seleneblack3061 I'm saying that they said they don't have to pay penalties because they worked hard 🤡 but there is 80% they have to pay

[@re_newjeans]

Article 5, Clause 4 If a third party infringes upon or obstructs the performance activities of E (NewJeans), C (ADOR) is obligated to take necessary measures to eliminate such infringement or obstruction. Article 15, Clause 1 If C (ADOR) breaches the aforementioned obligation, the members of E (NewJeans) have the right to terminate the exclusive contract.

[@inferiorinferno8859]

Considering no one actually did this, these clauses are irrelevant.

[@Accelerator0001]

Damn the comment i left on fromis9 mv 3 years has aged so damn fine!

[@UwU_for_Christ]

can we just stop talking about NJ until there's a court decision, its so tiring rehasing the same shit every other day

[@lilmeowmeow9283]

Can we all talk about the fact that all the shi nj and mhj pull RIGHT BEFORE a BTS or any other HYBE group comeback?! Its a pattern.

[@xMeikax]

like it's on purpose to generate interest?

[@seleneblack3061]

Can we also talk about how hybe artists seems to be announcing music on the same day as other company artists.Its a pattern now

[@lisapang1943]

Who the hell NJ think that they can still continue as NJ after they announced to terminate contract? These ppl saying that NJ has legal ground to terminate contract don't know shit on what the contract say. Did they see the contract? It is not public records! Proof how did HYBE violate their contract? Did anyone vetted if this short cut & paste of this clause is even real?

[@hanimcko]

2 clauses were revealed in NewJeans contract when Min Heejin won the first court injunction in the documents that’s why people have access to those clauses the clause that they can unilaterally terminate if they feel nothing has been corrected in 14 days obviously it can be challenged and the clause that if a third party damages NewJeans or interferes with their activities it’s a breach that the clauses we can publicly see

[@lisapang1943]

@@hanimcko You just confirmed my point. You did not see the entire contract! Did you see the entire contract? 2 Clauses cut & paste for media consumption does not speak for the entire contract. You still don't know what the entire contract say and you are making conclusion out of context. 2 Clauses taken out of context does not make you or me a legal expert on contract or contract law. MHJ & NJ made that many unreasonable & invalid demands to be complied in 14 days is a reasonable amount of time for any company to address these many accusations? How is that reasonable? Other than NJ & MHJ claiming all these so called interferences, damages, breaches to their activities , hurting their feelings...etc. have you ever seen any actual evidence? Did NJ and MHJ put forth any evidence? None! Especially Hanni who claimed abuse and that she had more evidence of abuse to give. When the reporter asked if she will provide additional proof of abuse now that they announced unilaterally "terminated" their contract? She claimed she already gave it at the Legislature and therefore she does not need to address it any further? What a bunch of lies? She did not provide any new proof at the Legislature. She couldn't provide any proof of the so called abuse. People ignoring you or don't want to talk to you after you defame them is not abuse. The manager was an employee of the other sublabel. It was not HYBE employee. If she is upset about that, go complain to the sub label. NJ / Hanni do not have the guts to address this with the other agency but cry foul with HYBE and accuse that it is HYBE's employee when it was not. How much more do you want to drink this poison from NJ & MHJ?

[@hanimcko]

@@lisapang1943 I’m just saying it’s a clause that they are enforcing currently right now it’s really something none of us can speak on as none of us have the full extent of the NewJeans and Ador contract with Hybe I don’t support either side if I’m being honest but it’s entertaining to watch

[@lisapang1943]

@@hanimcko They cannot "enforce" a clause that NJ refuse to file a lawsuit. This is not breach of the Clauses. The clause states "......in violation of the terms of contract....". The Clause only kicks in when the TERMS are violated. The clauses do not list what those TERMS Are because we do not get to see the entire contract. That is my point. Don't let lies and fake outrage cloud your judgement and commonsense whether this is entertaining to you or not. NJ cannot enforce anything because conveniently they claim termination but will not file a lawsuit but "dare" ADOR to file lawsuit to terminate? Who are these stupid lawyers that are giving them advice? Did NJ ignore their lawyers and being their arrogant selves think they are smarter then them so they will "Unilaterally" terminate contact? Contract cannot be "Unnilaterally' terminate by 1 party. That is not in Contract Law. Both parties have to come to agreement to terminate. ADOR reconfirms that the contract is NOT terminated and they are correct because legally it HAS NOT met the legal bar. Just because the girls waive their little wands to say we hereby terminate does not make it real. They need a reality check! Do you not find it interesting that NJ is not filing a legal lawsuit to terminate? That is because if they did the this goes to the court. In court you are now under "Discovery" which means you are obligated to provide proof of your accusations. Making things up and exaggerating fake hurts are NOT evidence. When court find that NJ cannot provide any shred of evidence, they will throw their lawsuit out. This is why NJ is refusing to file a lawsuit and media play saying that if ADOR /HYBE is unhappy, they can file their lawsuits. What stupid uneducated comments coming out of these girls mouth. They need to stop talking because they more they talk, the more "press conferences", YT complaint videos they do, the more they shoot themselves in the foot and sounding spoiled, entitled, selfish, arrogant, uneducated, undisciplined, ungrateful and treacherous.

[@lisapang1943]

@@hanimcko My apologies for speaking so harshly. It is not meant to be directed to you. I'm upset that people are buying the lies from NJ & MHJ. I don't understand why people cannot see through their lies & manipulation.

[@anikadelabajo759]

I think I’m starting to understand what New Jeans are trying to do. They are saying “we terminated the contract due to this and that” and go do their own activities. Now that means that Ador will have to file a lawsuit against them saying “they breached the terms, did their own thing, we want to terminate the contract with them”. Then they go to court, and NJ will say “actually, they breached the terms first, so by the time we did our own thing not only did we already inform them about the termination of the contract but the contract in fact, was already automatically terminated”. So if the court agrees with that, NJ indeed won’t pay any fees or anything. And indeed termination of the contract if the terms were breached does not require a lawsuit. It’s similar to your employment contract. You don’t need to file a lawsuit if you are in a contract and your employer did something wrong. You just inform them about the termination of the contract and don’t show up to work anymore. It’s up to them to go after you and dispute it in court, but it’s not a necessary step to terminate the employment.

[@bqanto]

But why do children write on KZbin? Where are your parents?

[@JaneSmile-k8q]

But they are not employees…

[@marianne8727]

It is very likely that they are provocative so that Ador sues them first. But since they also have obligations in their contracts (like in every contract), any move they will make to walk out the door, refuse to work, or even be vocal against their agency, will be a ground for higher penalties for them. They probably feel confident as they are protected by powerful lawyers, but at some point the judges will not swallow that. The courts will never want to create a precedent in the industry by consenting to release someone from a contract just because the artist does not like the new team he has to work with. They could win this if they had any serious ground for breaking the contract. But they have none! This is all made up for the press. But of course Ador/Hybe will be the bad guy for suing them and they will make as much fuss as possible to win the public's attention. Very bold..or very desperate 😂

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

​@@JaneSmile-k8qif they are getting paid to do certain types of work and performances etc they are employees they get paid by hybe and adore , being a artists , singer ,etc is a job , otherwise they'd be working for free

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

​@@JaneSmile-k8qif they are getting paid to do certain types of work and performances etc they are employees they get paid by hybe and adore , being a artists , singer ,etc is a job , otherwise they'd be working for free

[@edgarpreller1984]

fromis_9 said they are simply not resigning with Pledis. They did not say they were disbanding. Please to not spread false statements.

[@vanesalusaria7860]

Would like to hear from NJs supporters who believe the girls are no longer under contract I am making a lot of assumptions but give me a few: The girls have an exclusive contract with Ador to perform as NJs - I suppose NJs the brand is owned by Ador similar with other Kpop companies (That is why some companies can bring in and push out members without fully disbanding) - I would also think that the contract with the sponsors is signed by Ador on behalf of New Jeans the brand (not specific artists) - also compensation would go to Ador not the girls upfront - the girls get paid by Ador not the sponsors. I am very curious as to how they will continue with their brand activities when they are not "under contract" - who will pay them? are they working for free? cause acc to them they are no longer with Ador but their sponsorships are handled by Ador?? How will they fund the staff needed to continue with these brand activities? Also lets say that they get their own staff - how will they pay them? What brand would jump into this drama and pay the girls separately cutting out Ador?? that is a literally contract violation on their end. Again - are they working for free???????? Also What Brand would willingly catch a case for them???? Also if they continue performing their activities and Ador keeps paying them and they accept the payment and the services that come with this - THEN THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT - Contracts are like that - you can say what you want but if you continue like you are under contract - then you are under contract Think Marriages - if you want a divorce and the court in your country requires a separation period - but you keep living together and carrying on as a couple then the separation never happened and the court may not grant the divorce. Everyone saying Njs is brave can you explain how they are brave? It seems they are just playing games with their future.

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

Even with marriages if you sign a prenup you have to pay that person whatever you owe them , whether that means assets , if you went half and half , who gets to keep the house etc , it's a contract so even if they decide to disband they will still have to pay that money back

[@seleneblack3061]

I am pretty sure the law firms or legal team has told them what to do and let the court decide if they under contract or not if ador decides to sue that is . Everyone who are not their fans seems so concerned for them. Do u guys own shares in hybe or something ? because i dont see this affecting u unless u are either fans or associated to hybe in someway. Lengthy paras. There is a court and judges for a reason why dont u leave it to them.

[@vanesalusaria7860]

@ they literally brought it to the public plus aren’t they public figures??? - are we supposed to just listen to them and have no opinions? If so why not just handle this privately? Why all this media play? This not only affects them but other groups that have been dragged into this drama and K-pop as a whole. Also if you watched the press conference you would know they said they were not going to court and that they didn’t need to go to court They were also not able to answer how that will happen despite multiple journalists asking on several occasions. A reasonable minded person would like to know how any of this works.

[@seleneblack3061]

@@vanesalusaria7860 Just because a journalist asks u a question doesnt mean u have to answer they were probably advised by their legal firm not to answer unnecessary questions since this press conference is definitely going to court if ador decides to sue. Do u really think a bunch of 16 year olds came up with these comments without legal support these are statements given to them by their legal representatives and not only companies can mediaplay artists can too😂. And i dont think newjeans have affected any artists as much as hybes internal document affected. Please name one artist tht this group personally affected. U guys are just picking bone with a bunch of 16 year olds who you dont even like for a company.

[@seleneblack3061]

@@vanesalusaria7860 Anyone with a reasonable mind would know. Yes. Unless you are supporting a conglomerate run by incels and zionists or supporting one of their kpop rival group that is.

[@golshanmousavi4126]

This slogan is true precisely because the name of the group is famous, not the girls. Hybe will replace this group with talented girls, so New Jeans really won't die.😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏

[@hanimcko]

NewJeans basically said I’m going to leave if you have a problem with that sue me but I will be active with independent activities while I’m fighting you pretty much because I’m not filing a lawsuit only responding absolutely insane

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

But ador seems to be just as stubborn. I don't see them suing newjeans

[@hanimcko]

@ they would have to move if they want to challenge NewJeans unilateral termination the girls have brought in termination document and confirmed it’s effect with their special clause at midnight they won’t do anything that wasn’t signed before November 29th now

[@grlkat]

​@GOODfourYOU7088 I think the second ADOR files that lawsuit, that's them admitting they've stopped trying to work with NJ completely. ADOR/HYBE have been chasing after NJ & MHJ this entire time and not filing first is them giving the girls grace and hoping everyone works together. But NJ has been pretty non-compliant from the rip; I doubt that 2 week correction period in the contract is meant for, "give us back our CEO" complaints and more for actual collaborative changes, which haven't been 'earnest' efforts from NJ part with their treatment of the HR CEO. MHJ not agreeing to remain as their PD has little with their contract but it seems they're trying to claim the very initial complaint as the start of their distrust; unless their idol contract has been specifically contingent on her presence, can't really consider them a legal package deal but the girls seem to think otherwise.

[@thrifthour4857]

Lol Newjeans as are smart. Best of luck to my queens 🫶🫶

[@lisapang1943]

@@GOODfourYOU7088 Why should ADOR sue? ADOR is NOT terminating the contract and continue to state that they will support NJ. That is not ADOR being stubborn. That is complying with contract law. ADOR is giving NJ some face & a way out of this mess the girls created but the girls are too stupid to recognize it.

[@MaryKurosawa]

I feel like this year has been a rollercoaster for kpop, thank god we had BigBang to bring a smile ~ also, girl you are literally glowing, the skin? flawless! 😽

[@motokiheights]

Who owns the rights to the music, the name, all the promotions? Isn’t it Ador? Do they own anything of their past materials? Can they really perform their old music on stage? They didn’t write or produce that music, right? I doubt ADOR invested all those millions of Won to just let NJ walk away with it all and give it all to another company without reimbursement.

[@seleneblack3061]

@@motokiheights Ador own the rights. The girls can negotiate with them for a deal for their ip . Ador decides the price if the girls feel the price its unfit for their ip they can move to court and court will decide the price

[@Mudflat_Man]

All I know is I want more messy debates about 🐔 VS egg and 🦕 which was so iconic newjeans

[@YEONASTARS]

Loona better be back

[@pxKappa]

17:25 I've read that in their termination stuff there might have been some clause that prevented all members from getting back together in at least a year period (all=no, a few=fine), so that's why they signed with a company that would allow them to do just that, take them in for just 1 year. Obviously I can't back this up as these are not my words and I'd take it with a grain of salt (I wasn't even around and/or into kpop at the time it all went down). That being said, all the members have shared some messages in fan chatting apps which seem to be very much in the likes of "you (fans) shouldn't worry at all, we'll be around soon enough doing our thing", making me think they might have some news coming up in not too much time from now and might have something brewing already in the background. Also, at least Yeojin, that I know of, has changed her IG bio to "LOONA" 👀... ooooohhh 😅 is JJ bringing them in too? ARTMS +5 for their next work? kkkk. I'm aware ARTMS released a full album in may, but so did tripleS. tripleS has released a BUNCH more stuff since then, ARTMS hasn't (but they had a tour tho)... 👀anyways, much love to them and I hope they can come back together 🫰

[@samanthamay9779]

Those girls live in a bubble. Reporter: Are you filing a lawsuit to terminate the contract Minji: I won't file a lawsuit to terminate the contract, I will just continue with my activities Reporter, is this a one-sided contract termination Minji:Hybe and Ador breached the contract, so we terminated blah blah blah Reporter: There are laws in place, so why are you insisting on this? Did you actually review the legal aspects Host: The members aren't fully aware of the details 😳😳😳

[@aplaraujo250]

🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@lilmeowmeow9283]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sean-pl3us]

"those girls are living in a bubble" I fucking love when foreign fans infantizes idols and act like idols, who live in the situation every day themselves like who the fuck are you to assume you know more than them

[@kerryleecooper8184]

Sum 🤪🤪's on here...channel author sitting on the fence & throwing speculations out there to stir the pot & attract attention to it while the other wannabes are talking shet about legal stuff they know jack about...these dum ass girls & their evil stepmom THINK they got the HYBE CORPORATION by the balls but karma is just w8ing to kick them up the ass🤣🤣

[@viviz_fan.1]

1. Termination by Notice (Per Contract Terms) If the contract includes a clause allowing termination through written notice, as appears to be the case here, NewJeans only needs to notify ADOR of the termination. For example, in their contract, Article 15 specifies a 14-day grace period to correct violations before termination can be enforced. If NewJeans has fulfilled this requirement and provided ADOR with notice, the termination can be considered valid unless contested. --- 2. When a Lawsuit is Needed A lawsuit would typically only be necessary if: ADOR disputes the termination: They could argue that the reasons for termination are invalid or that NewJeans did not follow proper procedures. NewJeans seeks damages: If NewJeans believes ADOR owes penalties or compensation, they may need to file a lawsuit to enforce those claims.

[@LeloLeeleeRamirez]

This might be controversial but I'm going to say this, Korea's international identity is that they are open and very much on brand of being a open community. Korea is still very much a homogeneous culture and their culture is their culture. You are actually watching a somewhat revolution in the sense being an idol in Korea you are not a work machine, western (even though artist still have to fight for royalties on their own songs) ideas are flooding in. These idols are fighting to hopefully feel in control of their lives and who they are as Individuals... As we all are.

[@katkualm8sgkxghe]

CUBE (and Kakao) must have accepted the conditions of the genius producer Soyeon. An agreement has been reached on the rights to the activity plan and structure, including investment and funds used. It was really good

[@emaosmanbasic6882]

Loossemble leaving really surprised me. Hope they dont disband they were really good. Also around all this groups leaving I found out that gaeun left madein. Not surprising but damn.

[@belindasuttner3586]

fALSE!!!! They have bridge their contract and will pay a high price for their bad behaviour..... They will be an example of how not to bridge a contract.

[@thesunflowerone]

Oh hybe Stan is angry😂

[@hanimcko]

It all depends what’s in their contract their contract seems more lenient already having an unilateral termination clause

[@Nchallah-u6z]

⁠@@thesunfloweronethey’re like corporate security guards! 😅

[@lisapang1943]

@@thesunflowerone Oh NJ stans don't understand contract or contract law but pretends they do.

[@thesunflowerone]

@@lisapang1943 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thatminari]

I hope that they‘ll all talk to us later

[@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL]

Ya'll bunnies are delulu Newjeans breach their contract with HYBE when they did their little clown show surprise news conference. Ador is under HYBE. Ador has no legal authority to make decisions without HYBE knowledge.

[@eugenechale3265]

Mf think he knows something 😂😂😂😂

[@harleyrobb3034]

And they will never let MHJ be CEO after the shit she has pulled. NJ still needs to provide proof that they didn’t violate their contracts and that Hybe and Ador did. And they need to realize that kicking MHJ was in their best interest. I don’t defend the company but anyone who thinks she would of just been allowed back so easily is just lying to themselves.

[@camlee2341]

yes i am sure u seen nj contract lol..yall hybe stans are so stupid

[@hanimcko]

How can you know if they breached the contract if you’ve never personally seen their contract not everyone has the same contract that special clause alone shows NewJeans has a pretty humane contract with probably more advantageous clauses when Mhj established Ador

[@890-45-n]

This feels like more of the same from MHJ camp. Just keep saying the lies enough times it will stick. No one including NJ or MHJ knows if they can unilaterally terminate their contract penalty free. It will be decided by the court.

[@Kpopjpop638]

FROMIS_9 😭 LOSSEMBLE 😭

[@davenstone2393]

We already see that hybe doesn't like NJ coz it was MHJ creation and wasn't them, they even make a new GG doing the same concept of NJ, they only want to keep them so they can control them as long as they want, im happy and proud of NJ standing and fighting for their rigjts and freedom. I will keep supporting them what ever new name they will use in the future.

[@giofrancotrain18essence]

This was the reason at first

[@MOARMYForyou]

🤦‍♀️

[@bobbyfellerd2993]

I seen HYBE ask BELIFT to apologize, I DON'T THINK Specific Manager JUST BELIFT, just a general NOTHING apology

[@solmise]

Girl if you are a fan of New Jeans just say that. Almost all the video is about those brats. I’m so sick of those brats, and yeah I call them brats, so they are terminating their contract but they actually don’t, they just do their activities so they receive money but they are going to ignore any wish of the company to mitigating the situation. At this point the company has more prof than New Jeans that they are bullying the people around them. Poor staf and resources that could go to a real group that actually wants to be idols.

[@Jeilatin143]

I just read Fromis_9's letters for us Flovers and I teared up😭. I hope they stay as one group and be in another better company to continue performing even if they are not as Fromis_9 anymore.😭

[@Bai183]

Knetizens rlly don’t play bout Aespa, ive and NJ

[@luluyuyu]

On paper it sounds smart like NewJeans activities don’t need to be halted but I think they’re severely underestimating the power of a pissed off company. Hybe definitely has the power to pull strings and have the activities drop them without it being that Hybe prevented them on paper.

[@Tiw111]

Tbh I think Fromis-9 were going to disband in the long run… Pledis was just waiting for their contract to be up or the girls were, or both parties.. cos this wasn’t done abruptly, it was done cos thejr 7 years contract is up.. I don’t understand how their contract goes, but they were never really included as Hybe groups for a while… don’t understand why

[@20f124]

No the members were talking about comebacks, concerts etc even earlier this month. Hybe did exactly what they did with gfriend and forced them to not renew or probably gave them absolutely ridiculous terms.

[@RogueFire777]

They made unreasonable demands on Hybe to return MHJ no job would agree to that. Also we don't know how much money ADOR and HYBE has invested in NJ that they still might have to pay back. Promotions, MVs, Recording, Hair & Makeup, Staff, Music, Living Accommodations, Concerts, no way of knowing how much was invested or what the contract was

[@soniaiboyako4023]

The reaction to the Wendy pic is wild, what happened to being nice and having fun interactions lmao thankfully other Reveluvs were welcoming of it but i can't help but think "god forbid ONCEs on Bubble behave like this" given the stuff we get sent there (sometimes fans do veer in this territory and it spooks me a little ngl)

[@cynthiawilson5602]

Based on people actually reading what ADOR said. They gave a statement. And they basically either NJ fill a lawsuit against ADOR, either they pay penalty fees, either they stay till the contract ends. ADOR said they won't terminate the contract over one sided accusations that aren't based on anything solid so I don't know what the girls are gonna do now. ADOR is not falling in their trap of creating mess to get quick out so they won't have to pay

[@seleneblack3061]

@@cynthiawilson5602 The girls will do independent activities either a company willing to sign them or alone . Anyone can make a video of music and post it on their channel. What is ador going to do when they pursue activities not under the company and doesnt follow schedules dated after the contract termination

[@seleneblack3061]

They cant physically force the girls from doing any of these can they?

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@seleneblack3061 I'm sorry, but that is not how it works. No, you can not just post a music video. If it was easy, people who left the company could still post videos. That is not the point New Jeans are protesting, so they probably didn't record anything. They were supposed to have a comeback in October. All the videos posted to the account are pre-recorded. The live they did would have been on the New Jeans account, not a random one if it was so easy.

[@seleneblack3061]

@@cynthiawilson5602 exactly if they did a live from a random one they can release music on a random one too right. They can do a cover they can go on programs where they will have them and if ador thinks that is violating the contract then ador has to sue

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@seleneblack3061 In the same way, you can't force Ador. They won't claim the name New Jeans, but the contract is still valid. Any news page is not mentioned legally. They are still in Ador, and the girl's response shows they don't know what they are doing. I don't hate New Jeans, but under videos, talking about New Jeans is harsh. Most of the comments are calling them dumb, clueless girls waiting for someone to feed them answers through their iPads during that press conference. Any time they got asked a question, it was hard to watch. They dont have respect for adults. With Hanni's attitude towards the new CEO, the fans' excuse was that she didn't help her, so giving the CEO the stink eye was justifiable. But reporters was awkward to watch, and it was unprofessional. It really shows people they are manipulated kids.