Mom Chose My Toxic Stepsister Over Me and Kicked Me Out. But Years Later, I'm Engaged, and His...

Mom Chose My Toxic Stepsister Over Me and Kicked Me Out. But Years Later, I'm Engaged, and His Company Dropped Her Husband's Contract as a Client. And Now She's Blaming me.
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[@Joeink100]

She should have asked for drug tests

[@gwmahim9460]

I also thought same😅

[@00Snake77]

You think that they would have listened?

[@areszeudion5153]

Either they're not going to give a damn about the results, or the sis might as well readied hers to be switched with op's.

[@heffa3821]

lol

[@iswearinveggie5394]

“I’m gonna call the cops!” “Go ahead.”

[@thehiddensilentone1795]

Wtf, when OP Mom threatened to call the cops for drug charges, OP should have said " gladly, and once I come out clean I WILL MAKE YOU AND THAT MONSTER PAY!!!"

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

Honestly, if I was gonna go to jail, might as well do the worst

[@DyZaster.]

Exactly!!!

[@HunterPhone]

I would have rather been in jail then with them

[@hennigadient4265]

ehm you csn go to jail for having drugs without taking them. Op got no proof. And even if the step stister got possitive she could day Op is dealing what would it make even worst. You all really forget live is not lika a movie...

[@JonathanGames9.98]

Btw just tell the cops to take drug tests

[@RagnarokAvatar]

I bet OP's mother knew that the drugs and alcohol was planted there by her step-daughter the whole time. . .

[@rebewtinydino2572]

Probably

[@nick-brothwood]

Wouldn't be surprised.

[@Maria-wi1pj]

I'll be stranger if she didn't. You can smell weed and alcohol on a person and on their clothes

[@clay_utter]

@@Maria-wi1pjit’s also not that hard to hide especially if the parents thought nothing was going on. If she was trying to hide it she easily could. The mom probably didn’t know at the start but I’m sure the daughter told her at some point and the mom just didn’t give a fuck anymore

[@89wolfcub]

She should have posted on Facebook and shown that Jess admitted to lying to get her kicked out and flame her mom for all the mistreatment she received as a kid

[@KillahKuin]

Like Uncle Iroh once said: "Play evil step-sister games, win evil step-sister prices"

[@JRaptorGaming]

THE IROH QUOTE!

[@alexandermcadams3845]

yeah i think i remember him saying that.

[@kelanasmith5927]

Amy's parent are angels. At least once, call them "mom and dad."

[@Snakerz_lol]

Ikr! I love Amy and her parents they're so kind!

[@nataliereeves3594]

Another example of a parent putting sex before their child. They feel they have to back new partner and step kids without question or new partner will leave them. This results in them losing their bio kids and ending up alone.

[@RequiemPoete]

Not really. In this case bio mom didn't care at all about her daughter anyway.

[@polarbear2080]

One of those "Karma wasn't quick but when it finally hit years / decades later, it was satisfying to watch/experience it unfold in all it delicious glory" type of abusive playing favorites situations. It's clear the mother & stepdaughter will always blame & crap on OP for existing, but now can't stand that silent treatment & disownment goes both ways plus OP is legit much more happier and richer than them. I wonder if OP will ever see the irony of begging to stay and law regarding drugs being used against her when she was like 17 is currently wrecking her turd of mother & stepsister badly due to them begging for business and bashing OP & her fiancé's family on social media that led to the defamation court case punishment.

[@hexmaniacciaran]

if she wanted to be petty she'd share the email with the police where she confesses to planting drugs

[@danacarter9147]

?#*$. Not only should OP go full NO CONTACT with her mother and stepfather, she should also move with her fiance Jeff to another state to start their lives afresh, and make her own family that includes Jeff, and consists of supportive and genuine friends.

[@muhammadwaqarqureshi1758]

Noooo She needs revenge

[@heffa3821]

@@muhammadwaqarqureshi1758 She can get revenge and then leave

[@muhammadwaqarqureshi1758]

@@heffa3821 nah she must rub her life in their faces

[@noobyman333]

That's a nice image but its easier to run a chain of stores when you're closer to most of them =P

[@nayanD69]

@@heffa3821they have business to manage in that state what are you on about.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Stop being a damn doormat, OP. You did the right thing. Glad they also pressed for civil litigation for defamation regarding the online posts.

[@Audiogeek-kf2ez]

Sounds like a step sister from hell. Very common in America.

[@pablorocky6064]

It's not hell for the people who live in Alabama 😆

[@neoleonor7140]

​@@pablorocky6064 ohio 💀

[@iswearinveggie5394]

Unfortunately true

[@lumityviktuuristanartist4100]

Tbh evil step sisters exist everywhere not just in america

[@lumityviktuuristanartist4100]

@tobaboba-ht4ss I'm not mad or anything tho lol , and ofc ik they are bring sarcastic , I was just saying

[@crownlessking6628]

I'm male version of this. My mother loved my brother the golden child, ater he left she tried to make me her boy toy (even told me, LITERALLY I should act like back when I was 8). I left, cut contact. She is still calling me and saying how much she misses me. Now that everyone is done with her. I just say "don't have time to talk right now" and hung up.

[@beelow2023]

My brother tried to kill my sister but my mom disowned me and her for not forgiving him 😂😂

[@crownlessking6628]

@@beelow2023 Sometimes, I envy people who are even surprised by stories like this

[@crownlessking6628]

@@beelow2023 Truth be told, your parents didn't want you to forgive, they wanted you to pretend. Its "head in sand syndrome." Its sad, unfunny version on dog in house saying this is fine. In all my years I found out that abusers and violators are sick, but people who ignore them because they "don't want drama" are literally sub human.

[@Burntelmo-r35]

You’re a trooper

[@crownlessking6628]

@@Burntelmo-r35 week ago I realised she was molesting me. Asked friends with experience what was normal and what wasnt hit hard aint gona lie but me and friends were like "another thing to deal with, not first not last, not a bad deal :) "

[@brakis18]

So her step sister was the most popular person in the world, turned the whole school against her, and had enough weed to frame her... how fortunate right after her life became so charmed.

[@laurabos661]

That's the amazing part about creative writing, the story goes the way you want it to lollll

[@Rinefi]

9:00 "because first of all, i never had friends who were cool enough to have access to alcohol and cigarettes let alone drugs"

[@ingeborgkolkman5048]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@eeshaankini2543]

Only thing I hope is that she asked one of Amy’s parents to walk her down the aisle at her wedding

[@Mia-dt3gl]

I hope OP forwarded the email where Jess confessed to framing her to the egg donor. Not that it would make a difference, but meh.

[@christian9411]

It’s sad that parents are the greatest enemy to children

[@izzywolflover]

The mom could have chosen to surrender OP the foster care system. That’s my aunt and uncle did with me when they decided they no longer wanted to deal with a depressed teenager with autism and ADHD

[@thehiddensilentone1795]

Woah, are you serious? I have 2 autistic kids and I will admit, it can get stressful sometimes, but I will never consider putting them up in foster care. Your aunt and uncle should have never given up on you, because there are still ways for you to receive help. I don't know where you live, but if you live in the states there are all kinds of programs that help autistic people, if you live in a different country there should be some type of school or program that might help you. You just have to look it up and find it. Just because someone gave up on you doesn't mean you have to, try your best and prove to them and yourself you can make it.

[@revresbo101]

She 100 percent should have submitted a blood test to check for these “drugs”. The sister would have shit her pants easily

[@lizlemonline2951]

I would’ve said call the cops and let them sort it out. They would’ve drug tested oop and finger printed everything. Then the stepsister would go to jail. Her mom knew that stuff wasn’t hers but she also knew oop wasn’t going to stand up for herself.

[@Flipflopflopper]

Op should have called her dads family telling them about how she got kicked out so they could sue the mother for fraud, call the cops for child neglect and also drugs

[@areszeudion5153]

she doesn't even know her dad, how would she even reached out to them? If anything, if step-sis and mom keeps harassing her, op might as well posted the email step-sis sent her and put "You all know that I got kicked out of my house when I was 17, but do you all know why and how? Here you go:"

[@Jarock316]

​@@areszeudion5153I think they meant her step-dad's family.

[@jordanwardle11]

they didnt care. and judging by the step father and step sisters behavior, the step family wouldnt care either

[@areszeudion5153]

@@Jarock316 they only say dad's (not step-dad, which I even doubt OP even ever met them). That's why my head instead goes to bio dad, who's out of her life.

[@bribro23]

@@areszeudion5153go to the courts and ask for the address maybe, remember her mom was getting child support which means he was paying

[@Whendidweloseit.]

This story reminds me so much of my own childhood. I am thankful my best friends parents were there for me. I feel for OP. My family judges me so much, and I'm literally one of few who don't drink or do drugs, but they hate me and always claim I'm worse than them. ( I struggle with my mental health due to the abuse and child sa I went through as a child while under their care. My struggling is what makes me so much worse.) It's hilarious to me. Now that I'm married and have a family. I'm seeing what a normal family is and I'm so freaking thankful I've cut them out of my life. I hear through the grapevine from my grandmother, that they are all struggling with their bologna and I laugh knowing it's all what they deserve.

[@pamlew338]

AMEN

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

Im actually glad the stepsister reached out. An opportunity for op to get back at her. She needs more of those tbh. A single defamation case is not nearly enough

[@lilagonzales1145]

Amy and her parents are mvp. Opened their home to OP when they were in need. OP’s mom sucks and the step sister sucks even worse

[@PairOfSocksGaming]

OMG Guys! So after several years I being the angel I am finally apologized for being literally the worst person to my step sister and now her husband is dropping my husband as a client, GUUUUUYS! Shes so spiteful wtf

[@RequiemPoete]

I heard this in my head in valley girl... AHHHHH!!!!

[@thelorax2208]

if you cant trust someone personally you cant trust them in buisness

[@Syrin23]

Her friend and her friend's family are the real MVP.

[@jaebi1961]

Imagine an alternate universe where she shares her room with her step-sister and they become BFF's and her life is really good and she has someone to lean on and protect her and team up with her against her shitty mom.

[@_juju_jojo_]

“Hmmmmm, even tho I was a POS mother and don’t deserve a relationship with my daughter, how do I get her to fix my son in law’s situation? Oh I know! I’ll be a bigger POS mother to her! This won’t have any consequences to me.😁”

[@aleksandarvil5718]

*#Karma** in Its Rawest !!!*

[@RSBskill]

Just because you aren’t a problem child doesn’t mean you are a golden child

[@DrEtzor]

I'd have called the cops myself and told them that my mother found a bag of weed in my room but it is not mine and it obviously has fingerprints on it, there's no weed in my system and they can check it as it stays in the system for a long time and that there was also alcohol empty cans found in the room. The step-sister would be sweating bullets when the cops would come around and i'd just tell the cops that my family is abusive towards me so that's why i suspect my step-sister who i've seen using illegal substances.

[@erinstanger416]

OP and her fiance should use the money from the lawsuit to pay for their wedding!

[@reillycurran8508]

So nice of the sister to make such a grand contribution to the wedding fund via the defamation settlement!

[@LantonEdtis]

Once upon a time, in a quaint little town nestled between rolling hills and whispering forests, there lived two siblings: Alex and Ryan. Alex, the older one, had always been treated unfairly by their parents. No matter what Alex did, it never seemed enough to earn their approval. Meanwhile, Ryan, the youngest, was showered with affection and praise for every little achievement. As the years passed, Alex grew weary of constantly feeling overlooked and unappreciated. Despite their best efforts to excel in school and in various endeavors, their parents' favoritism towards Ryan remained unchanged. The resentment festered within Alex, but they held onto a glimmer of hope that things would eventually change. However, when Alex turned 18, they decided they couldn't bear the unfair treatment any longer. With a heavy heart and a determination to forge their own path, Alex bid farewell to their childhood home and set out into the world, armed with nothing but ambition and resilience. Years went by, and Alex worked tirelessly, climbing the ladder of success one rung at a time. Through sheer hard work and dedication, they built a prosperous empire, becoming one of the wealthiest individuals in the town. Meanwhile, back at their childhood home, Ryan had grown accustomed to basking in their parents' favoritism. But as time passed, their parents began to face financial difficulties. Their once-thriving business had faltered, and they found themselves on the brink of losing everything. Desperate and with nowhere else to turn, Alex's parents reached out to them, pleading for help. They begged Alex to give them money from their fortune, hoping to salvage what remained of their livelihood. They even went as far as to request Alex's luxurious mansion, envisioning it as a solution to all their problems. Upon hearing their parents' pleas, Alex's heart softened, but the memories of years of neglect and mistreatment resurfaced. Despite their parents' desperate pleas, Alex couldn't bring themselves to simply hand over their hard-earned wealth. They had worked tirelessly to build their empire from the ground up, and they refused to let their parents take it away to favor Ryan once again. With a heavy heart, Alex gently declined their parents' requests, explaining that while they were willing to offer assistance and support, they could not simply relinquish everything they had worked so hard for. Instead, Alex offered guidance and financial aid to help their parents get back on their feet, but on the condition that they treat both siblings equally from that moment forward. Although their parents were initially disappointed and angered by Alex's refusal, they eventually came to realize the error of their ways. They acknowledged their past favoritism and promised to mend their relationship with Alex, understanding that love and support should never be conditional. In the end, Alex's refusal to yield to their parents' demands served as a catalyst for healing and reconciliation within the family. As they embraced their newfound equality, the siblings forged a stronger bond than ever before, united by their shared journey of overcoming adversity and finding true acceptance.

[@Stormbringerwolf]

Hahaha if op sister sees this on KZbin, I hope she reads the comment section. *clears throat* Get rekt B *cheers for op*

[@joeystoney3678]

I feel bad about getting framed for weed and beer. When I got busted for weed and beer, I was told the beer was in the fridge, and was grounded for a night for weed.

[@rebeccaconlon9743]

I never understand when bio parents treat steps above their own child... like they are more focused on s'x than family

[@RequiemPoete]

Because Op was a reminder of the failed marriage and the step daughter w as more like the girl she wanted.

[@CrazyK9Time]

The petty in me would have disclosed that intial email and just posted it lol

[@sirmatsdubois2509]

Personally I think some parents really need to take a step back and think about their actions. also I would have sent the confession notice to my mother of what my stepsister did to me to poor more salt into the wound. and I don't mean just a single vat of salt but an entire trainload of salt of more than a million cars! because the fact that the girl she is defending literally framed her own flesh and blood would definitely not be a good look. but I wouldn't go too far and only send it to her not the rest of the family. unless she forced my hands. Anyway I highly doubt op people ever have to deal with them againt.

[@RequiemPoete]

I would have sued the step sister for defamation and emotional distress.

[@Unknown32753]

They could have just did a drug test on the op and find no drugs in her system

[@awesomenesskid15]

The moment I heard about the drugs and alcohol planted in the room I was like k let’s do a drug test and look for fingerprints and then we’ll see how step sis defends herself when the drug tests come positive for step sis and the fingerprints match the step sis

[@lucifersatan8240]

9:52 *Looks at Jess, disappointed.* "Are you fucking kidding me?"

[@MizzShortai]

I'd have said "sorry but my life doesn't revolve around you."

[@annnichols3091]

When my younger brother and sister got too old to share a room, I was given the choice of sharing a room with my sister or having a basement bedroom. I chose the basement. I think OP should have done that as well.

[@iamdoggo]

I would have told her to call the cops because they would do drug tests

[@Streber-q1w]

In this part in particular 10:51 I would stay there and wait for the cops and ask for a lie detector test and it would prove that i didn’t do it

[@Panwere36]

There are so many more stories like this, yet there are so many pretending "only the father/stepfather was toxic". The OP in no way is in the wrong here. The problem is that "Jess" ADMITTED she committed a felony (framing someone for drugs), and they also were selling an inferior overly priced product to her husband's family's business.

[@AhmadSmith-kd9pt]

All you gotta say to bullied is (OK and) after that they can't say anything

[@kingadib6216]

if the drugs wasn't urs u could have just asked for a test u could have gotten ur revenge years ago

[@Chuckakhan]

That’s why you clean your room gawd dangit.

[@legiontepes3474]

Sounds fake, but nice story.

[@geofreak400]

It is a fake story anyway

[@asterixobelix20]

"Found my future husband/soulmate on a dating app" yep, definitely fake.

[@legiontepes3474]

@@asterixobelix20 ofc he's rich, powerful, etc.

[@Maestrosendgame]

You’d be surprised dude

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

True but fuck the people this story represents

[@Yoda_Saint_Cloud]

Same age? Wanna know how boys handle this? Hands on learning.

[@vgkrazie]

I think the burning question would be, did the OP have her step-sister be a bride's maid?

[@R3AP9]

She should’ve let her mom call them and have her prints and Jesse’s prints ran from the bottles and bag to see who’s lying

[@user-sg2ihshJi458]

There would have been a tone of tests to prove your innocence (eg drug tests tests for alcohol in your system-breathe test-, and a test to see if your finger prints were on the drugs should have stayed in the house and if they went through with the test you would have been negative and low an behold your step sister would have been taken to prison

[@Wishingstarmik0]

I dunno how are the laws where u live but I heard that in some countries u can sue ur mother and step dad for emotional damage

[@DyZaster.]

4 words about the "Addict incident" Breathalizer or Blood Test... 😅

[@Bijecarli]

Look, most of us know these stories are either straight up fake(AI) rephrased so other's can't find the OP, but my gawd. All of these stories sound like they're written by the same 8th grader.

[@jem2719]

Drug test nuff said, why would they side with you when they hate you.....how would jess" find" stuff in ur room if it wasnt plantd? Why would she even be in ur room when its known ya dont get along?

[@vamp6767]

I get the rest, but beware of women who say stuff like "all the other guys were just for fun". That is a hell of a ref flag.

[@kidm0bius190]

press x to doubt. faker than a $3 bill. so-so creative writing.

[@TDArulesclub4]

10:18 “She lost her Jess” 💀?

[@jem2719]

Wouldnt the fact you got taken in by ur friends fam went to college, worked and saved, and lost weight be the happy end to your story? well rich guy got u covered for revenge huh?

[@neca1542]

My opinion: Shouldve sued Jess for drug use, causing emotional distress, etc. Also make sure to go to a therapist

[@saramccormack3025]

Gd luck 2 u n ur finance but block all ur family n their acquaintances on all social media n up security on ur wedding n home just in case they try n take petty revenge.

[@JessGrimCODsoldierofTF141]

Nooooooo! My nickname is Jess😭

[@lucyw6397]

Okay, I’m not the kind of person who likes to accuse stories of being fake because it’s Reddit, who cares and what’s the point, but I just want to point out for anyone who wants to write a more accurate story next time; defamation does not work in the way they explained it. Defamation has a notoriously high burden of proof and is difficult to win. In most US states, the accuser would have to prove 1) a knowingly false statement was made and presented as fact 2) this was communicated to a third party (social media) 3) the defendant was negligent or acting with malice when determining the truth of what they were saying (aka did extremely little research and present it as fact) 4) the statement cause a countable damage, whether to the reputation or impacting future business opportunities, etc. All of that to say, it’s hard to prove. In this case, it would have been an uphill battle to prove that the step sis knowingly posted something she knew to be false and presented it as fact OR did so little research (so little research that a reasonable person would have been more careful and do more research beforehand) which would be extremely hard to prove, as well as having to prove that her statement actually did harm to the company and its reputation, which it sounds like since step sis business was already failing, it would be very difficult to prove she had and impact on OPs. All of this to say, this story is false and maybe needs to do a little more legal research or left out so little information that it completely misrepresented the case itself. It’s my pet peeve when people think defamation cases are easy to win or even that commonly brought to court, it’s hard to punish someone to a constitutionally protected right of free speech

[@ifurreadingthisugetayeet6534]

Umm....i actually like the background music can somebody tell me the name pls? Or any link or anything related ?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Delicious karmic justice.

[@ReezyRinne]

Alc and drugs is loser shi anyways she cool asf for being so resilient n being fat doesn’t make u ugly. Shame her mom missed out on a cool ass lady.

[@naptime1900]

The reason why you are losing clients? Send old and new product to Jess with price point.

[@madmank7881]

But the reason why her stepsister's husband is losing the contract primarily is because of the emotion she has for her.

[@brianarnold8666]

11:11 should've stayed and demanded a drug test for jess

[@KO-fh4vn]

Never have I heard such an elaborate I'm the victim story. Jesus. I don't think I would like the author of this at all.

[@user-qf1bb7nm8s]

Why is everyone using the word “scandalized” lately?

[@dhsdrew2517]

Gotta be fake, cause a drug test would have been anyone’s first thought

[@jordanwardle11]

wouldnt prove anything

[@dokuganryu1565]

​@@jordanwardle11How wouldn't it prove she hasn't smoked the weed they incriminated her with?

[@jordanwardle11]

@@dokuganryu1565 because then it would move to op being the dealer

[@dokuganryu1565]

@@jordanwardle11 And then there'd be an investigation that would most likely lead back to her family.

[@yourdagan]

She was 17.

[@Halfcocked1222]

Mediation a week after a lawsuit is filed is...lol.

[@freakboy220]

18:39 Negative negativity? as opposed to what, Positive negativity? smh

[@mikethoroughgood16]

I think honestly the story feels half done i expected mom to suddenly beg for op to be her daughter again because family

[@edwardstrudwick9851]

14 min 30 seconds of backstory

[@thematrix2661]

even if it was personal so what.

[@saidobarulho]

14:05 lies

[@Glitchy_2b0y]

I would of got a small camera in my room

[@CloudPuppet]

Maybe if you had explained why you didn’t feel comfortable sharing her room

[@MrModaman]

Do you really think that it would have made a difference?

[@EMSThinWhiteLine12866]

I would rule against the OP and fiance. Maybe Jess and her husband talked smack about the OP and fiance in social media postings but assuming without being definitive that this happened in the US the law here makes it hard if not near impossible to win a defamation case because of the constitutional right of freedom of speech and opinion even if it harms someone else in the public's estimation without something more tangible. Also as a sanction for violating Jess's and her husband's constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech and due process I would enter judgment the sanction that OP and her fiance must continue to do business with Jess and her husband for the next five years at whatever cost dictated by them year by year over those five years even if it harms OP and her fiance financially but it cannot put them to the point of bankruptcy but it is allowed that Jess set punitive price levels.

[@SarahLovesBoobahandErEr]

FAAAAKE!!!!

[@Robloxercheese]

Sharks 🦈😂

[@mischalala803]

AI generated story

[@msgamerno1.480]

I left here 7:19 i will come back

[@foxx003]

Kinda hate how your stories these days have 2 minutes of an update. Not even 25% is an update, which doesn't make it feel as aged and good. These stories are supposed to be treated like wine.

[@loonwar5231]

“My life sucked but then I eloped with a prince I met on a dating app”

[@JamesAvila-xu7ds]

Lol I know a couple of people who married through pof

[@ellaraven-nm5pg]

No❤❤❤❤❤

[@alepalexalt]

is there ipdate?

[@benhall2307]

Is that it? Where is the good story?

[@heatherfyfe4293]

Hi

[@jogomex]

florida

[@lodunost]

First I would have called the police myself and told them what was up. An I would do it in front of the parents. I would also take a test to see if any of the substances were in my system. Depending on the state I would then sue my parents. There is legal representation those under 18 can get in most states. Some fall under Dependency proceedings. I would do everything in my power to make that situation backfire on everyone in my room and do my level best to put someone in jail. Most states and the United States Department of Health and Human Services Children’s Bureau recognize children as parties to dependency proceedings and provide children with party rights, including notice and the right to participate.

[@jordanwardle11]

not having drugs in your system doesnt prove non possession. worse is if the step daughter admits and witness tampers to claim that op is their dealer.

[@lodunost]

@@jordanwardle11 She doesn't have to prove anything. She is doing her due diligence and showing her willingness to cooperate. There is drug paraphernalia in the house. The parents are currently in possession of said drugs. They blame the daughter. I have seen this play out several times. I deal with Innercity kids in PA, and I can tell you where I work with these kids at, K&A is one of the worst places you can think of or ever have the misfortune of being. I deal with these kids all the time having these situations. You have to remove yourself from it and to do that you need help. Once they get the matter in front of authorities and then a judge starts looking at it. What do you think is really going to happen? DHS will step in first if they can and then CPS depending on the age. There will most likely be a court ordered drug test. An investigation and the parent will have to pay support to the kid throughout the process of this separation and into college. You know the OP is my dealer wont playout very well. Almost never works for a myriad of reasons. If she keeps her nose clean that will come out during an investigation.

[@chayodmushroom]

W amy

[@laurabos661]

Why are all these stories fake though. The title is always interesting, but then I click on the vid and within a minute it's clear it's fake af. What's the point, there's plenty of real stories that are good.