Mom Murders Her Family, Doesn't Realize She's Being Recorded

[@liveyourbestlife756]

The fact that the husband said she's crazy and needed help.... Unbelievable how the system failed him and those children!

[@Fred-gv3kh]

Not surprising they (Police Dept??) cut off the body cam so we didn't hear the rest of the conversation... the part where, presumably, the officer continued to gaslight Charles by telling him he was overreacting and worrying unnecessarily. I wonder how that officer and anyone else involved who might have INTERVENED in some way, and taken the husband's concerns SERIOUSLY, feel now that some of the blood for the death of those children (and adults) is on THEIR hands??

[@jeanvaljean6433]

you cant throw someone into jail or psych without proof or a doctor's oversight mate

[@michaelgrat6165]

To be fair that happens thousands times a day to police officers.

[@stevefitchett6193]

Had it been a woman saying this about her husband they'd have leapt in to action and the dad would never have seen his kids again. Never happens when the husband is the person concerned.

[@mammadingo9165]

​@@stevefitchett6193there's men and women out there calling sane people crazy . Heck people even gaslight themselves into thinking they are morally good.

[@sunniwithani]

Hearing the grandpa speak just broke me. I can’t even imagine his and his wife’s pain.

[@kayramarin250]

Same 😞😭

[@CrochetLover85]

😭

[@philipnativio3923]

They just needed to get rid of all the Zs. There were level 4 and 5 demonic entities supplementing them

[@JenniferKrista-xo2ih]

I think her mum is abit blinded by her daughter, it’s all really sad

[@JenniferKrista-xo2ih]

I think her mum is abit blinded by her daughter, it’s all really sad

[@gemini1005]

When JJs grandfather(so sorry, I am horrible with names) stood up there and told JJ that Papaw loves him, he also said he loves Tylee and had expressed how even tho he never met Tammy personally they're all connected now and is sorry for what happened to her, that she didnt deserve it. The whole case tore at my heart but this man rly tore at my heart. This is so sad... I pray for everyone and to heal as best as they can given the circumstances

[@Missmalefique]

She can't be called a "mother". She went to Hawaii, while her children were buried in that repulsive man's backyard. She is a beast and so is him

[@DarkslayerNinja]

Not just a beast but a monster

[@kenshields7922]

she is pure evil she will meet her maker satan

[@scottrichmond3548]

@@DarkslayerNinja a beastmonster

[@DarkslayerNinja]

@@scottrichmond3548 that didn’t makes any sense…

[@DarkslayerNinja]

@@scottrichmond3548 anyway she’ll rotten in jail for the rest of her life. For a sake of children, we need to be better.

[@psychic7615]

Just read that her trial is not a death penalty trial, if anyone takes the life of children, period, should get the death penalty.

[@andreear6444]

She doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us, especially out of tax payers money, the only relief I have is knowing she will (hopefully) be jailed for life, giving how covered this case has been, I doubt she will be allowed out of solitary to much or to often, I hope she’ll be restless, alone, forever afraid and confined.

[@psychic7615]

@Leena Wexler That’s messed up my idea of justice.

[@modernvivienleigh]

​@@psychic7615no, it's not. Attempting to convict on the death penalty is much riskier as she can end up being found not guilty and avoid charges. Life in prison is a more sure fire way to make her pay for her actions. Especially since the death penalty is hardly upheld if they are found guilty.

[@ashleyashley9405]

Agreed! They don’t have a place in this world they are not capable of rehabilitation or remorse ever

[@thepinapple8829]

@@modernvivienleigh idk about you, but it think this is a pretty clear-cut case

[@voodoo.cookie8569]

She had a family. How could you take the lives of those dearest to you? That's disgusting. I hope she thinks about her actions in prison.

[@idontreadorreply]

Were they the dearest to her though?

[@ashleyashley9405]

She won’t. People like his are too far gone there is no rehabilitation or remorse ever

[@1st_KingOfTheHill]

​@@ashleyashley9405 I like how you see people for who they are

[@voodoo.cookie8569]

@@idontreadorreply Well from the video and many others that I've watched. They were her dearest until her extreme ideologies got to a point where she acted out in the most worst way possible.

[@idontreadorreply]

@@voodoo.cookie8569 ohh, well that makes sense, thanks

[@alysonm1289]

Her own last living kid is not even having any justification for her! Like she could have given his siblings to him! Their grandparents aunts anyone!!!! There isn't any justification for them!

[@hypsyzygy506]

They 'believed' Tylee and JJ were 'zombies' that had to be destroyed.

[@stjohnssoup]

@@hypsyzygy506projection

[@wemon9349]

How could a human being like her sleep at night?

[@bojuu]

well im a horrible human being and i do still sleep

[@hampter3819]

​@@bojuu ur a fish.

[@Baba_Wawa]

It’s hard to refer to her as human when she clearly lacks any respect for the lives or humanity of others, especially her own children. My heart hurts for the family & all the victims. I’m not sure how I feel about the death penalty but in this case & in my opinion life in prison seems too merciful for all they’ve done.

[@potato1084]

@@hampter3819 One eye open when I’m sleeping 👁️👄

[@potato1084]

@@KonekoPurrrfection I dated one for a few weeks😂 They do have feelings but only if you offend them and hurt their ego. They get mad.

[@daydreaminavenue]

"Every Child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child".

[@Kendalldrye]

The fact that Tammys kids we're so set on her not having an autopsy just goes to show how brain washed they we're as well.

[@BrightSeaStar]

Absolutely agree. Their father convinced them that she was in ill health. Baloney !

[@sweetcherry7759]

People like this is why I stand by the Death Penalty.

[@coffeecrispeas]

Why isn't there a torture penalty? That would be more deserved.

[@neetatulsie6137]

@@coffeecrispeasI agree

[@mirandahotspring4019]

@@coffeecrispeas We've moved forward from the middle ages.

[@taketinnn33]

Arguably a 3 minute agony and death

[@molokoplus0612]

​@@mirandahotspring4019stfu. I knew there would be at least one bleeding heart tool spouting some anti death penalty garbage.

[@marimullan4012]

Her poor ex husband tried desperately to save those kids & himself & nobody would help him.

[@johnl9977]

That's because Idaho is a very RED state, Republicans permit crime among their own. That is also why Idaho if a flyover state, because real Americans want none of that.

[@kaelanime7750]

How do people become so vile?

[@Pokekid2597]

Honestly what I was also thinking… that a seemingly normal person could transform to something so terrible and so lost to reality. Have they had the capacity to do that this whole time? It's rather scary to think about….

[@potato1084]

Religious cults and being delusional 👍

[@kingslayer3796]

Upbringing/childhood. Nobody is born with these evil intentions, they must be learned from whoever raises them....People should look into HER parents.

[@nigguhplzx6672]

@@kingslayer3796 it could also be environment, such as cruel treatment in school from teachers and other children, but then again parents should step in at that point so maybe you're not far off with the parents thing

[@Pokekid2597]

@@nigguhplzx6672 upbringing and environment can be one thing… perhaps a combination of both, whatever the case.. this person in the end is unable to face reality, as such the defence mechanism is to gets stuck in some kind of psycho power fantasy.. What’s more scary I feel.. is being in the family’s shoes, to think you know someone, and then realise they’re like a complete stranger.

[@megan6955]

Thank you for covering this so thoroughly. As the case has progressed it's been hard to get a true accurate compilation of information. Very well done. My heart is broken. I hope Colby gets help and is able to have a happy life.

[@louramcqueen]

Why didn’t those officers get child services involved immediately? Charles did everything right by calling the police and telling them all about Lori’s mindset and that he thought she might hurt them! Their deaths definitely could’ve been prevented!

[@matthewwilson5019]

im going to say it, because it was a man who was worried and not a woman who was worried, because most of the time poeple dont belive women can harm nor do evil to thier own kids. if a woman was worried then yea the kids would have been put into child services

[@djentile7773]

​@@matthewwilson5019you are absolutely correct

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

@@matthewwilson5019 Get over yourself pal. No-one, man *_or_* woman, can have their partner's kids removed on such a tenuous basis. I bet you'd be the first to whine if a woman got her partner's kids taken from them because they didn't agree with their beliefs.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@noneofyourbeeswax01it happens when women do it though. Men get taken to the woodshed in court for kids all the time. Women rarely do.

[@Cheshiregrinn91]

It is just so crazy. There were people in their lives who would have taken the children and raised them with love so you know it was never about getting them 'out of the way' of the new life they wanted to build together. They were genuinely just batshit insane. There are no justifications at all. Not even one.

[@hypsyzygy506]

They were busy preparing the end of the world, and that always means removing the evil spirits around them. Even the Bible supports this position (if you want it to).

[@Fatcat-ss6nh]

@@hypsyzygy506that’s why religious nuts like these need to be looked into, religion just seems to lead to death and destruction.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Religion. As the late Chris Hitchens once said: "Good people do good things, bad people do bad things. All you need to make a good person do evil things is a religion."

[@snowwhite2524]

They wanted Tylee and JJ's social security money.

[@gabev7579]

​@@hypsyzygy506yea u can find ur life's meaning in a ad if u really want to lol

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

The older son... I couldn't even imagine what is like to love someone, your own mother, and suddenly to discover that she is a monster. Your whole life loving your mother, and sudenly, boom. Jesus Christ...

[@sirtaugs]

Not only that. You don't have a father, brother, or sister anymore. He lost his whole family

[@inshallamiami]

Typical Christian family.

[@Heartcore90]

I feel so bad for Colby. He was just not getting through to his mum. I would have hugged him in Idaho where he was standing.. he looked so alone

[@whyhesoears]

stop calling her a mother, stop saying she lost her dearest, stop saying she lost her motherly love. she's a husk, the zombies she speaks of.

[@gomahklawm4446]

Common western narcissistic mother. What's wrong about that fact???

[@whyhesoears]

@@gomahklawm4446 did you even see the report? theres being narssisitic, and theres being an outright monster. and dont act like this happens just in the west, theres evil everywhere.

[@danielbrisbon-lv4sh]

If a woman doesn't want her husband and children, it's easy divorce and give him custody. It's painful but not a crime.

[@johngallati8164]

NEVER MARY A WOMAN WHO WAS MARRIED 3 TIMES BEFORE...THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG.

[@feliznavidad6958]

That wont stop most men. My dad happily married my stepmom who abused her own children and me and my siblings.

[@Rowan-mo4ko]

Exactly

[@sharonroller8849]

True about marrying a much divorced man also, don't

[@mapachepataki5013]

i feel ya, my "mom" abused of me in every imaginable way, until i had enough bodymass and age to scape @@feliznavidad6958

[@falrus]

@@feliznavidad6958 sorry this happened to you

[@PhaethonCrafts]

I currently live in Idaho (about 27 miles away from Rexburg) and I am still horrified about this monster and what she did.

[@sharonyeung8230]

Move out bro

[@MannyBrum]

I've lost track of how many times the world has ended since 1999.

[@matthewwilson5019]

2012 was my fav world ending lol lol because a movie was made about it

[@tripstar3563]

​@@matthewwilson5019predicted thousands of years ago by the mayan calendar. That's why 2012 was so exciting. Lol.

[@drats1279]

The doomsday people have been around since right after the Ark landed.

[@johndavis7078]

I heard the world was ending in 1988. It was called: The 88 reasons why Jesus is coming in 1988. But when it didn't happen they just bumped it back 10 years.

[@kdfulton3152]

Those cops have Charles Vallow’s blood 🩸 on their hands. They talked to him like he was the crazy one.

[@zyxwvut3397]

Cops are very very lazy these days. Only people that haven't delt with them in the past are the ones that love n support them. 90% of people that have will tell you how dispicable they are

[@remaGenOtahT]

oh my god. when i heard about the JJ body being buried i was just so shocked and disgusted. how could you do that to someone who is 7??

[@hypsyzygy506]

People do it all the time. Why are you surprised?

[@remaGenOtahT]

@@hypsyzygy506 well… i guess maybe not surprised. but im still disgusted??

[@potato1084]

7:45 He should NOT have been allowed to purchase 46 firearms WHAT?! 1 maximum.

[@kweenikki]

If anything she’s the one who was frickin possessed by a demon like I can’t even fathom how someone can do something like that , let alone to their own children.

[@hypsyzygy506]

God's ways are mysterious. Don't you believe that?

[@kweenikki]

@@hypsyzygy506 idk im agnostic

[@bryancarr100]

the devil always comes in as light. He is there to deceive

[@jennabreann4221]

this is so disturbing and weird. i feel so sad for those children.

[@PlatonicPurplePanda]

And the worse thing is? There are more people like her out there!

[@KM-ne1ft]

There are currently two major vile crimes going through court. What is in the air in Idaho? very bizzare.

[@masonsjourneylivingwithacc7029]

This video was very well researched and presented. Thank you

[@Burrisjeffrey1]

It's beyond me how they ever thought they could get away with it. What kind of people do things like that?

[@addiemarieart]

Why couldn’t they just abandon their family instead at least they’d all still be alive

[@chocaren4602]

Insurance money!

[@hypsyzygy506]

Because zombies cannot be allowed to prevent the end of the world.

[@hailbones666]

“Intertwined” ❌ “inter-whined” ✅ “inter-twined”

[@suracakir8175]

Divorce? Moving out? Did theses options did not come to mind

[@hypsyzygy506]

'Zombies' have to be destroyed. Faith says there is no alternative.

[@AngelfromGenX]

Wow! This was a wonderfully complete & chronological synopsis of a very complicated and detailed case with multiple narratives and players. You highlighted every major character and captured the true shock level contrast of the mother turned killer. And all in half an hour! Great work!

[@tonics7121]

Job well done. I've researched their story, and you have covered it perfectly. Great on facts and tone. Very thorough as well.

[@charityrocks]

These poor children were in a real life nightmare before they died. 😢 They had NOONE to save them.

[@blowurn0se]

I just signed the petition. Let justice be served.

[@NaevisVibin]

Glad she is found guilty but im confused to why she gets life in prison and her husband is getting death penalty, why can’t both of then get it?

[@mota._.h]

Idk, maybe cause ones a woman and ones a man. Same thing happens with child predators. Honestly they both should've gotten the death penalty seeing as how they gave it to anyone who got in their way

[@HyperWolf]

I noticed the grandfather only ever mentions missing JJ. Was Tylee not also his grandchild? Did I miss something?

[@thepinapple8829]

It seems like he probably had a stronger bond with JJ since he took care of JJ for a while.

[@floursandroses]

He was only JJ's paternal grandfather. But he did express love for Tylee in some interviews. Him and his wife only had custody of JJ, not Tylee, when he was young for a short period because she was not their grandchild. Tylee is their grandson's sibling. I watched the trial and all the interviews. They mention both kids, but they mention JJ more because he was the one who was related to them and stayed with them. Tylee did not.

[@chazdellwalker6912]

3:18 Tylee wasn't biologically their granddaughter but their granddaughter through marriage. JJ wasn't biologically related to his mother either. He was his dad's nephew.

[@thepinapple8829]

@@chazdellwalker6912 JJ was still related to his granddad by blood

[@chazdellwalker6912]

@@thepinapple8829 I know. I never said he wasn't. Just that Tylee wasn't and Lori wasn't. And that Charles, his dad, was biologically his uncle.

[@nkiehnle]

I'm somehow glad she didn't get the death penalty. She will live her days separated from the person she wanted to be close to. And she'll realize over and over and over that Judgement Day was not close, and everything she did was out of lust, greed and stupidity.

[@peterbaruxis2511]

They both thought the end of the world was coming, now they're just gonna have to wait.

[@mus139]

Killers always value their own lives, They even Find God in Prison?

[@98dannyj]

Please stop calling her a mother...she is freaking monster and I hope she will get the worst in prison

[@maddonut621]

I have followed this case for 3 years now. I am still baffled by this entire case even after listening to every minute of her trial audio. Monsters don't need to eat or sleep, Lori. Angel's and God's feast with their followers. Monster.

[@mariavelasquez184]

The witness’ name is being mispronounced. It’s Zulema, not Zeluma. Also how did it take so long for this woman to be stopped? She had clearly not acted like a mother and all these shady and very suspicious deaths happening while she cheated on husband .

[@goopbuni]

THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS!! i remember hearing about it when the kids first went missing but hadn’t seen anything since. it’s nice to get the full story now

[@singleasasin]

As a child, WHO else to trust, but your mother ? ... 😞 She does not deserve life in prison, but, death penalty ! ... 😠

[@gojo2194]

LE should have saved a lot of good lives, and time, by listening to Charles in the first place. Poor guy, he must have so incredibly alone and betrayed.

[@mithos7575]

Never thought I'd see something that happend in my area in a Spill video

[@verilyheld]

What gets me is, she had it all. She had everything. A good husband, good financial security, good children, a good life, but no, that wasn't enough. Nothing would and will ever be enough for those such as her.

[@louisaklimentos7583]

She is pure evil ! RIP beautiful angels !

[@remainedanonymous8251]

Thank you for sharing this story! I have been trying to catch up on this for a while now.

[@ajzombie10]

Imagine being a little person, thinking these people I can trust with anything in my life, just for them to take their life away. Imagine the confusion and pain they had to endure. So sad

[@sherimann6144]

I wonder how the prison pool compares to Hawaii? She will NEVER SEE a pool or Hawaii EVER AGAIN!!

[@rogerwhittaker4189]

I remembered that case like it was yesterday you know how that saying goes every child deserves a loving parents ,but not every parent's deserves children based on how they mistreat them.

[@jax73-s5c]

Dude how could she do this??? 😢😢😢

[@imhere8380]

I hope "they get her" in jail....also him. Just sickening.🤬😈🤬😈😠😈😡😈

[@hypsyzygy506]

The strange censorship of certain normal words is very unsettling in a purely factual report from the so-called "Land of the Free".

[@feliznavidad6958]

Yep, tons of censorship these days

[@SHiFTyTReATS]

This is sickening… JJ’s grandfathers reaction at his gravesite broke my heart.

[@BrightSeaStar]

He was a human being. His son was not.

[@margaret-annestirrat]

JJ must have been lost and scared without Tylee around. Who knows what he was going through 😢

[@Natesoph]

46 firearms? No one should need these many firearms nor should allow to.

[@DrAnnBlakeTracy]

Thank you for one of the best reports on this case I have seen yet. In working these cases as a court expert since 1992 I have yet to see a case of classic medication-induced psychosis where no one at all could be contacted who could or would share the evidence in this case. Charles Vallow's cries for help to authorities I have heard repeated over & over & over (almost word by word) for years in case after case. But with AZ having the worst media when it comes to investigative journalism I have seen nationwide it should not be that big a surprise. Anymore reporters are so busy looking into someone's psychosis as reality trying to mske sense of it while completely ignoring the reality in front of them, And Chad referring to the extremely drugged up Rexburg, ID as the "New Jerusalem" is so incredibly absurd that if they did not already have enough evidence as to declare him "mentally incompetent" that statement should confirm it!

[@lavenderpetals64214]

People around here where she was caught are hoping for death penalty she had a hard time finding a lawyer bc nobody wanted to be her lawyer

[@thecoolintroverttv8381]

I wish more lawyers acted this way with defending obvious criminals

[@mango3441]

I felt so bad when JJ and Tylee's grandfather said he loves them. What has people to see to Believe these vile actions are right? This is not what god would want for them. This is completely brainwashing. Those children won't love her anymore. They would torment her forever and their vile uncle. Chad brainwashed and made her believes stronger to commit these vile things. Without Chad's help she would still be dangerous but this is horrible

[@madcat4301]

I'm really surprised Lori didn't send Alex Cox after the Woodcocks to shut them up.

[@marylee4454]

They weren’t zombies, they were obstacles.

[@electrojones]

Ruby Franke was heading down this same Mormon mom path.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Those poor children :( may they rest in peace. Lori should receive the death penalty.

[@sharonyeung8230]

Agreed

[@reignbowblack7769]

How horrible & disgusting

[@tijana2844]

I can't imagine the pain they felt all because the "mother" and "stepfather " just want to be together "again." I'm so sorry for the lost souls !!!

[@joshjones7102]

I am friends with Tammy's sister and the whole situation breaks my heart beyond words.

[@G41251]

This degree of evilness is beyond comprehension.☠️

[@yuffiefan7637]

This just proves that, religion, when too extreme is deadly

[@willischwabe1324]

Pretty much anything extreme is bad. People even can get extreme about healthy eating or tidying or cleaning themselves to a point that is "too much"

[@meenki347]

Thanks to the detectives, prosecution, the jury and Judge, On July 31, 2023, she was sentenced to 2 consecutive life sentences.

[@MatthewBlackMetal]

This happened in the town right above my hometown. This shook our community... this evil woman shoudve gotten the death sentence

[@idontreadorreply]

This is true human nature, sadly. This is what we’re capable of and this is why I don’t like my own species.

[@cyberdragoon1432]

More like, it’s what humans are capable of when they are strung along by a very radical mindset, as they are lost in their own sauce to self justify their radical actions.

[@bdh3949]

Lori's sentence of "Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole" is not only fitting for her it will be her Nirvana that she was so desperately seeking. You've come home Lori, you found it.

[@BrightSeaStar]

NICE !!!!!

[@seeyoulater240]

Not Idaho being the new Jerusalem 😂😭😭

[@1wor1d]

I don't agree with the death penalty, but this mother and her accomplice make it difficult for me to accept any lesser form of justice.

[@truthseeker9108]

The story of a psychopath. No remorse, justifying herself with religious teachings and beliefs... Disgusting...

[@TallulahTeyah-zu5bm]

What the ACTUAL FUDGE 😠🤬

[@SheerLunaSea]

This script and this VA fit together so good today, bravo all around.

[@frankgunner8967]

Some people would give anything to have kids a family but she just throws them away like rubbish totally disgusting.

[@TheGigantium]

“A good person does good things; a bad person does bad things. For a good person to do bad things, it takes a religion.”

[@willischwabe1324]

Well, to be fair: How many people committed atrocities in the name of "science" or mass murders in the name of ideologies like socialism?

[@Eylmi]

Always so excited when i see spill uploads ❤

[@leasagowers2293]

This is so nuts I can’t wrap my head around it!

[@BrightSeaStar]

Yes NUTS is the best summary of what transpired.

[@joem8372]

listening to old guy at 4:30 about the biggest earthquake, we are still here. Never listen to anyone stating end of times when he is a hoax.

[@willischwabe1324]

It's even in the Bible. Jesus warns / tells us to NOT try to predict the Apocalypse, but to just stay prepared.

[@sarahm8695]

I will say this: she was on her fourth marriage for a reason.

[@daniellarosas5879]

I almost was going to be in the jury for this case. Scary thing.

[@JenZ727]

Who does she need? She decided she didn’t need her children.

[@NellaJade]

My heart broke all over again everytime the grandpa talked about JJ. I feel so bad for him, he must be suffering through unimaginable pain.

[@lilith4413]

My hatred for these monsters has no bounds!! I hope they never find peace for even a second.

[@ThatsValForYa]

the fact that this could have all been avoided if the police had taken the man seriously when he told them his wife was basically losing her mind and warning them that she could potentially harm her kids... so frickin heartbreaking....

[@5Heliotrope]

I remember the Netflix documentary. It left me speechless and disgusted.

[@johnstachon9262]

How she didn't get the death penalty, I'll never understand.

[@matthewwilson5019]

because shes a woman, im not just saying it to say it, but her evil partener got the death sentince

[@lindar6326]

YES, I DONT UNDERSTAND IT ALL

[@maricastro8930]

what is it with the people in the U.S that it's so prone to this religious crayzines and cults? I've never heard of this happening so often in any other place...

[@garethw1228]

People who believe absurdities can easily commit atrocities- religion in general, folks... Look up divine command theory.

[@DarkRendition]

Marrying someone that goes through that many divorces is baaaad judgement.

[@higgme1ster]

What does not come through to most individuals watching is that Mormons believe that as Latter Day Saints they will earn their own personal sphere or "kingdoms of glory" where they will be exalted as gods and goddesses above those they have had authority over in this life. It wasn't all for power and lucre but for control in their after life And now you know the rest of the story.

[@threetimesfinal1618]

Why wasn’t this on the National news?