Moms of guilty teens in 'Slender Man' case speak out

Angie Geyser and Kristi Weier told ABC News they saw no warning signs of violence before their daughters stabbed a classmate.

[@gigglesmansonn]

My sympathy is with the victim solely

[@ryn3575]

exactly !

[@kellyk7577]

MINE TOO, they r murderers and I have no sympathy for criminals

[@michaelafton9695]

Ticci Toby Wow. Just....just wow. I mean I was taught as a kid to respect others’ opinions...but that’s just....messed up.

[@duustincrawford2945]

Xina Moira you should practise what you preach and not insult people when your making a point

[@Fablemaner]

Xina Moira you can't fix killer's.

[@lbo6050]

Sorry doesn't cut it. She's very lucky she didn't kill that poor girl.

[@cutienerdgirl]

Lisa Boliaris obviously the kids were mentally ill

[@jawasstolemydroid4930]

Not really. There are adult murderers serving less time, but this case was highly publicized, so she gets 40 years for not actually killing anyone. It was bad, not excusing it, but NO ONE DIED!

[@opbkb985]

It breaks my heart to hear if those girls killed the other poor little girl. Also I'm pretty darn sure those girls were mini hitlers

[@jawasstolemydroid4930]

OP BKB, literally no one died.

[@asutorad]

jawas stole my droid YES

[@looniebell8139]

I was making rubber band bracelets at 12.

[@vickieclark5931]

Exactly. At the age of 12, the thought of planning a friends murder was not even something I could have thought up.

[@PopCrusher]

Vickie Clark when I was twelve I couldn’t even think about death, lol. I was terrified of it. I was writing fantasy stories about Irish fantasies and dragons and wishing I was an author, lmao.

[@Tokki_pop]

When I was 12 I was still watching spongebob

[@no-qk4oj]

LOL same i remember playing with thole animal bracelets

[@dokadoka4922]

I actually liked reading about creepypastas when I was 12 but jesus christ- hurting another human being (especially a best friend out of all people) never even crossed my mind once. So no, reading creepy stories online isn't an excuse to murder someone else. Those girls are fucking insane and I hope they never get out of prison. God forbid what they might do as adults.

[@karencampbell2410]

Anissa’s mother is talking BS - she said in an earlier interview she didn’t know what her daughter was up to on the Internet.

[@4lither]

Karen Campbell yh I saw that too

[@tomprosser8958]

Liar liar pants on fire her nose is longer than a telephone wire

[@michellerose7753]

must have thought that they were living in stone age. bruh.

[@LoneStarWomanInACajunWorld]

Saw a documentary awhile back & the documentary showed disturbing things Anissa watched along with creepy comments she made on KZbin before they did what they did. Nope, Anissa's mom wasn't paying attention to her daughter's online activity. Ya'll might have seen the same documentary. It's here on KZbin. Don't remember the name of it.

[@iricrescent2901]

Unfortunaltely it’s a real hit or miss on how well parents keep tabs on their kid’s activity online. Something I come across often is one of two things. Either, the parents see the internet as purely a tool and not nearly the diverse and boundless world of virtual interaction as it has been for awhile now. Or, they’re overprotective parents and still end up at odds when trying to understand their child. For older parents, it’s more likely for children to understand and better handle technology. This isn’t in defense for the suspect’s parents but rather wishing that there were ways to convince/teach parents healthy ways of supervising their child’s use of the internet. This may be handled a little better since the start of the pandemic now that everyone has to depend on online interaction but before then, there really isn’t enough parents who tried to adapt to technology despite its major influences on children today.

[@SarahHoudini]

They committed an adult crime and now they're being punished like one. No one should feel sorry for them they tried to kill someone. I'm glad this is what my state is known for now.

[@eternalskeptic6996]

Bababa Bababa you're fukn deranged!!!

[@daniellegagne6726]

SAVAGE GIRL tTOP SAVGE IN AMARICA aw she said she’s sorry and she cried. WHO CARES IF SHE CRIED. ALL CRAZY PEOPLE CRY IT DOESN’T EXCUSE THEIR BEHAVIOUR.

[@christianbordelon5080]

they stabbed a girl 19 times, please just shut the fuck up. the only sick fucking pig here is you. these girls arent changing.

[@peachdreams5060]

Sarah Lynette they're biologically adults so it's fitting. I hope they die in prison and get plenty of tribbing done to them by big hairy butch hambeasts.

[@peachdreams5060]

Danielle Gagne it was crocodile tears anyway

[@KylieKTheGirlonFire]

I was collecting Webkinz at 12.

[@brookeg3848]

Kylie, same.

[@AlexandraBolz]

Yeah same

[@qioxqiox316]

Ikr

[@nicki2157]

same

[@askinredroads5132]

Kylie what a mood

[@camila8031]

she wasn’t feeling remorseful about what she did, she was remorseful that she would go to jail

[@MahmoudMohsab]

She was only 12, WTF

[@KPOPBL495]

@@MahmoudMohsab she's still a criminal. Age doesn't change that

[@andrecabfer1628]

Facts. Hopefully the victim can recover properly now that those snakes are out of her life

[@shiralleehaggart72]

@@MahmoudMohsab Age doesn't matter. She nearly killed this girl.

[@kroakie4]

She wasn’t remorseful from the get go. There’s video of her in the interrogation room acting like nothing is wrong. She’s dancing around, all carefree.

[@NameePark]

I tried to watch multiple videos about why slenderman is involved in this case but still don’t get it !! What does slenderman have to do with the stabbing pls send help

[@ROSE-cs4hq]

they believed that if they kill somebody they'll be proved worthy to Slenderma.

[@seli5310]

Jimmy ya they are but you are wrong in one way. the girls believed they would please him and prove he was real.

[@Equa11ysurl]

This is 10 months late, but the girls attempted to murder her for a sacrifice for slenderman.

[@carterhall7246]

They stabbed her because they thought that slender man was real and would kill them if they didn’t kill the girl

[@turg9115]

@@carterhall7246 yeah schizophrenia is so messed up

[@emptyricebowl]

"Is she dead?" That's how you know that she actually wanted to kill her. It's just the tone she gave off

[@johndogwalker2531]

No its becuz mans wanted less pen time innit

[@solitaire777]

Not just that but how she shook her head in shock when she found out her "friend" didn't die. Nasty pieces of filth need to be put away for life.

[@__L__837]

She looked so pissed and annoyed when he said he didn’t know

[@melinaquintana7282]

Agreed. When I heard that part it gave me chills. She obviously felt no remorse.

[@brie3679]

When she found out Peyton had been taken to the hospital she shook her head, shocked. She was shocked she didn’t actually kill her. She wanted to kill her...

[@milohines7886]

“That’s not my daughter” but who is it

[@lynnlynn603]

Milo Hines I wanted to punch her in the mouth when she said that!

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

That idiot mom is just as delusional as her daughter Now we she where the kid gets it from.

[@DxGFaded]

SUGAR XYLER I kind of agree but come on she probably can't compensate the fact that her daughter stabbed her friend just to worship some dumbass thing that isn't even real.

[@tokyohalogen]

The girl has schizophrenia you fucking morons. Maybe read up on what schizophrenia is and you'll better understand why she doesn't recognize the things coming out of her daughters mouth. She was having psychotic episodes and hallucinating.

[@delusionsofgrandeur1330]

If you watch the entire 20/20 interview her comment has much more context.

[@marksark1119]

Now she's all remorseful. In the Interview with the detective she said remorse was a waste of time. NEVER release this one. She'd be a repeat offender.

[@tiredandbored909]

Morgan was psychotic, dancing in the interrogation room and saying that, they probably used slendermanas a excuse for the attempted murder of Payton

[@aleksandra5808]

@@tiredandbored909 yes she is psychotic, which is why she believed slenderman was real and did it. Look up what words mean before using them.

[@wheniwasokinawa7610]

@@tiredandbored909 bro she really is mentally ill tho

[@MarshalOutlaw]

The girl survived 19 stab wounds. Strong person, she has clearly still alive for something good. Wish her all the best

[@kaitlinruiz7249]

I went to middle school in Wisconsin when this happened, I was in 8th grade. Almost everyone was talking about it, I remember slender man being very popular in Wisconsin at the time. I had a friend that was equally obsessed with this fictional character, my parent's forced me to stop talking her after they found out what the girl's did to their friend. Most people got detention if they even mentioned slender man. It was crazy, it was something we were forbidden to talk about.

[@notthemexicanaverage235]

Kaitlin Ruiz It May sound dumb to me, but it’s totally understandable. But if I were to talk about Jeff the Killer, would that be allowed? 🤔

[@GlimzytheBee]

I mean its understandable but banning slenderman won't prevent insane kids from being insane.

[@KaeMcSpadden]

My mom helps out special ed kids at a high school, and after this happened, she was asking me what Slender Man was. I showed her the website the girls were looking at and showed that it was a site where people make up ghost stories and post online for people to read, it was just for fun, not a cult.

[@mrsTraveller64]

@@KaeMcSpadden okay but what does your moms job have to do with what you wrote here..

[@KaeMcSpadden]

@@mrsTraveller64 because some of the students she helped out were also obsessed with creepypastas, and when this happened, she was wondering what exactly the kids she was helping were looking at.

[@missmodern]

I was still playing with dolls at 12.

[@Alexinf1]

Peteena Poodle lmao I think I was still playing outside and toy cars, then.... the internet had taken everyone

[@redevous]

Right, cartoon Network and riding my bike. Fucking with people in the neighborhood lol church, school that was my childhood.

[@lindataghon5712]

Me too!

[@itz_liv_05_76]

Peteena Poodle same

[@annekeolivier7157]

Probably so were they.

[@autobotrock4789]

It's really chilling when these cases happen and you hear loved ones swear they're not that kind of person. It's true that you can be close to someone and not know them. That is your daughter, but it's not the daughter she allowed you to know.

[@zach_science3009]

These girls: killing her bff to make a fictional character "happy" at 12 Me at 12: begging my mom for robux

[@LittleLulubee]

That mom seems creepy

[@paigeanderson9944]

Which mom there was two moms in the video

[@chloedreyy464]

LittleLulubee Don't juge a book by his cover :)

[@ihavenoname727]

I can see that.

[@ihavenoname727]

Seems like she’s from Ohio.

[@ichihimefan91]

Their mothers are ugly bitches

[@pipimi.fanclub2926]

*hears about slenderman once*

[@valhalla4558]

друг Hello drug/friend

[@cristalat101]

epicfuzzball hi

[@Canwehitsubscriberswithn-zp4pz]

I feel like they used Slender man as a scapegoat.

[@DankrumStar]

From what I understand… Alissa wanted to kill someone, probably out of psychopathy. Morgan had family history of schizophrenia, and her mother even said there was evidence of her developing schizophrenia. Alissa manipulated Morgan using her schizophrenia and her obsession with creepy pastas and slender man to manipulate her into killing

[@jmc0024]

Nah, she's only "sorry" Peyton didn't die. She's only "sorry" she got caught

[@loltigercute4350]

Mhm facts

[@kodzken4800]

morgan is schizophrenic and it was untreated for the longest time causing her to believe that slenderman would kill her if she didn’t kill bella, there’s no excuse for killing someone but she was dealing with something she didn’t even know she was dealing with because her parents were too clueless to see it and for her age it was pretty rare which is called early onset schizophrenia

[@victorhopewave]

Such a classic case. I've been following this story ever since 2014. Finally something has happened, 4 years later.

[@Kiriuu]

Victor Hopewave same the parents are dumb there were signs that they were going to do this but they ignored them

[@floridafrog7085]

Bout time that bitch got what she deserved

[@maddyhannah6214]

Victor Hopewave Same- It's a crazy story

[@cloudnomad7758]

Kiriuu right? Not convincing at all "I was over her shoulder, I checked her ipad"......sure lady. Sure. You were on top of it.

[@abbypike9289]

I know.

[@mrbattle2013]

These Kids are old enough to know right from wrong. Lock EM UP

[@batalorian7997]

Michael Edwards you're telling me 12 yr olds don't know that murder is wrong? Funny because my 6 yr old niece can easily tell you that murder is wrong

[@annekeolivier7157]

Darkest Knight she'll also tell you it's wrong to lie, punch her brother and to steal a cookie from te cooking jar. Does not mean she won't do it.

[@batalorian7997]

Anneke O But she's smart enough to know that there are consequences

[@annekeolivier7157]

Darkest Knight I agree 100%. Consequences should however be age appropriate. At 12 you can not protect youself from mental illness and can not be judged as an adult. Adults in these kids society must take responsibility for screwing up in raizing them.

[@batalorian7997]

its not the parent's fault. it's always easy to blame the parents. The kids just saw a story online and believed in it. That's how it all started. Even one of the mothers said she was going through her child's tablet and always watching her. They saw no warning signs of violence. Like you said, just because a child is taught not to hit somebody it doesn't mean he won't do it

[@ash12317]

Imagine being the 12 year old that was stabbed. Slender Man? The woods? Attempted murder? 😵. I still played on the playground at that age. Poor thing.

[@spiritanimal7516]

When I was 12 I never wanted to stab or hurt anyone despite being abused by my parents.

[@selena199619]

SHE SURVIVED?!! STABBED 19 TIMES???? Wow

[@remymossman4244]

Chloe Marie it’s crazy how lucky she was! But 12 year olds wouldn’t know where to stab someone to kill them. I bet they mostly stabbed her legs and arms (the victim would of been shielding herself) and didn’t get any of the major organs. Very lucky!!

[@jawasstolemydroid4930]

Hell, yeah, that little girl is a damn TANK. Seriously, I used to tank for some friends in game, and I thought I was good, but that kid is the BOSS!

[@redlady935]

Yes apparently the heart Stab was 1 millimetre away from killing her.

[@amina6121]

She survived because she was stabbed by 12 years old girls

[@lilycox7423]

I watched a video an it said that if the stab wound in her heart area was one human hair deeper she would have died from a heat attack

[@dianefitzpatrick7774]

This young female calculated this with her friend and these two girls maliciously stabbed another girl 19x"s. This shows deeply disturbed individuals who most likely will not change. What kind of kids are we raising??

[@99rylee]

Diane Fitzpatrick these murderous psychopaths belong in jail not in a resort.

[@taragold1036]

Nobody is raising the children, which is the problem. Internet and tv are their only resources. This is what happens

[@tanjab13]

Moon Child agreed!!!

[@chellelaw667]

Diane Fitzpatrick can you honestly say you were a well formed individual at 12? I certainly wasn’t ready to be an adult.

[@kelseyhorton8514]

"deeply disturbed" well yea, the leader is severely schizophrenic, and the other girls was diagnosed with with a mental illness as well.

[@simredacted1367]

Most psychopaths' parents live in complete denial. It's IMPOSSIBLE to not notice strange behavior. For sure this attack wasn't the first aggressive attack. Psychopaths lie a lot, they torture animals or their own siblings, they manipulate their parents... they don't simply 'snap', like, they're 'good' and then they do bad things... no... their behavior evolves...

[@winterstar5750]

When I was 12 I would reload my game if I accidentally said something mean to an NPC.

[@Crazymelvis]

Haha.

[@laurenanderson7330]

Did you have schizophrenia?

[@QuinnieMae]

@@laurenanderson7330 Morgan's Dx was after the fact and had literally zero to do with the attempted murder. So whether Winter Star has head a diagnosis is irrelevant to their comment. Seriously.

[@Butterfly-ql4pg]

I'm just glad the girl they stabbed is okay. She's lucky to have even survived that.

[@Chubbymunchkin]

I was playing with barbies at age 12 and laughing at the word “fart” like are you kidding me?

[@gadget2327]

I still laugh at the word fart

[@rasciii]

yea wtf

[@laurenanderson7330]

Did you have schizophrenia aged 12?

[@Chubbymunchkin]

@@laurenanderson7330 schizophrenia doesn’t make someone a killer

[@laurenanderson7330]

@@Chubbymunchkin are you kidding me? Yes it does.

[@niloofarnamiranian2246]

I didn't see any kind of guilt or being ashamed in their mother's faces I just feel so bad for the victim and her family went through such a horrific experience 😢

[@hitzncritzmobilegaming9988]

40 years wow, guy cut someone's head off on a greyhound and didnt even serve 10 years.

[@azonicrider32]

Ya, but that was mental illness. This is clearly just evil adults under the guise of children. I'm being sarcastic, and its kinda sad i have to point that out.

[@tough3600]

happened in canada

[@stoichr3324]

That's NOT my daughter. What a denial!

[@rlee3538]

Heewon S of course she's in denial. She have birth to that girl and raised her from infancy. Before she turned into a criminal she was her daughter, a little girl that went to kindergarten and drew her mom pictures and played with dolls. If your child did something horrific you'd be in shock too.

[@Ettibridget]

What she meant was: that's not the daughter I knew

[@undertheseafoam2449]

Ettibridget Honestly thank you so much for saying this 🎉

[@wishingmusic]

She didn’t mean it literally. 😑

[@tintinismybelgian]

She kidnapped the kid from the hospital.

[@Alexinf1]

woah she's going to be 50 when she gets out... OOF, LIFE WASTED

[@suk4honesty]

I don't think she'll ever adjust to life outside after spending basically her whole life in an institution...

[@Alexinf1]

vickie g you got a point

[@eternalskeptic6996]

the U.S "judicial system" is an embarrassment. that fat little troll of a judge got this wrong!! If a guy touched those girls, everyone would call them innocent little babies....but if they succumb to delusion and mental illness...they're magically adults? This country is a shithole. With that being said, I'm very happy to see that the other girl seems okay. oh, just a thought...where were these guardian angels I hear so much about...from "rational" adults??!??

[@WeiYinChan]

Eternal Skeptic did you just compared child rape victims with murderers?

[@Alexinf1]

Jason Woods lmfao you horny af

[@elessasarafidi4863]

Well, I believe attempted murder should be treated the same as murder. It doesn’t make a difference if they succeeded in killing or not.

[@samantharose1041]

This mother should me ashamed of herself, what Morgan did was terrible but she was very sick. She knew her daughter was having hallucinations at the early age of 3 years old. Teachers and even other parents had been reaching out to Morgan’s parents out of concern before the incident ever happened. There’s just no way as a parent she couldn’t have seen it.

[@gailswearngin2269]

My parents have these friends theyve known since I was a baby. They have a son who a couple years younger than I am(I'm 40). About 18 years ago I just had my first born son who was like 2 weeks old. My parents called me and told me their friends son got convicted of doing unspeakable things to his newborn baby who at the time was barely 3 weeks old. He sodomized her and beat her. She had a broken leg, fractured ribs, her skull was cracked and he had injected her body cavities with citronella oil(her vagina and her anus). The tiny baby girl was in so much pain she was howling and foaming at the mouth. He got sentenced to 47 years in prison no parole. I remember my parents telling me this and at that moment I was looking at my newborn son sitting next to me in his swing wondering how in the hell someone could do that. My parents friends kept it hidden until they couldn't no more. It gained alot of media attention and even though they lived in a different town. It would make it on the news in our hometown. They told my parents when he was a kid he use to go through like a dozen of hamsters, guinea pigs etc that were pets. They would mysteriously die. For some reason they missed that big ass sign that something was clearly wrong with their kid. Some parents only see what they want to see and will rationalize "odd" behavior.

[@21AngelKisses]

Shelton gail this is so disturbing! It’s crazy to see what can happen when parents are ignorant.

[@gailswearngin2269]

A Silva it definitely changed the way I raised my kids from then on. To be alert. Not unobservant of their behavior and to look for things that might seem off. Ignoring things does not make it go away.

[@xoxolalalalala]

did the baby survive

[@gailswearngin2269]

Cat .Soup yes. She did. The mom moved away and changed her name and the baby's name. She didn't want her in laws to have any contact whatsoever with her or the baby. The baby is an adult now.

[@marcelaa9498]

Shelton gail omg that's horrible! As a mother I hate hearing stories like that. I don't understand what goes through their mind while doing such sick acts on babies/children. I saw that you said the baby is an adult now, do you know if she was affected at all by it? Being that it was a very young baby at the time?

[@alexanders2669]

If you’ve ever seen a person get stabbed, you know that it’s absolutely horrible. These kids don’t deserve to be let out. Ever.

[@mimifrempong9366]

Morgan had a mental illness but Anisa was Manipulating her out of jeleaously so Annisa deserves to be in prison not Morgan

[@SparelWood]

@@mimifrempong9366 I feel like both deserve prison, not as much as Morgan was sentenced to but she still definitely should be help accountable in some way as well as should be treated for her mental illness

[@Crow23346]

Morgan absolutely does when she learns to get a better hold of herself and her surroundings after being on meds for a while. She was schizophrenic her whole life and had no idea and this case actually got her diagnosed. She saw and heard things that werent real everyday and could not discern reality from fiction. I am absolutely not surprised she stabbed her friend because she thought slenderman would hurt her and her family if she didn’t, ive heard of unmedicated schizophrenics doing worse. Only someone with schizophrenia could ever understand the absolute confusion and chaos she was enduring that entire time before she finally was diagnosed and medicated after the police realised. I’d imagine it would be like being on drugs and living through some kind of surreal, trippy dream.

[@ethannewberry1053]

@@Crow23346 no she doesn’t

[@buckyhurdle4776]

@@Crow23346 Plenty of schizophrenics go their entire lives without offering blood sacrifices to internet memes.

[@delilahb1617]

the girls aren't sorry for stabbing the victim, they are sorry for being caught

[@ashleybellerose7104]

I am so happy the girl survived. I just have no words for this case other then I am happy the girl made it.

[@Iamrightyouarewrong]

"Not my child" I'm tired of that shit, just a way to escape blame.

[@EllieBellie_111]

I'm right you're wrong Ugh. She just means she didn't think her daughter was like that. The kids showed a different side when at home.

[@rachelbelanger2708]

I'm right you're wrong She wasn’t trying to escape the blame she was just saying she was shocked when she learned about this.

[@aliens3219]

I'm right you're wrong pretty sure she's disowning her

[@tintinismybelgian]

Or disowning her?

[@buddahflower2424]

She’s not trying to escape blame. These girls were influenced, changed, and corrupted by this mythical slender man case on the internet to the point that this mother, who had no idea of this evil put into her poor girl by the internet, couldn’t even recognize her.

[@Jasmine.JS2]

WHEN SHE SAYS "THATS NOT MY DAUGHTER" SHE MEANS IT'S NOT THE DAUGHTER SHE KNOWS.

[@ewyana5841]

I know! I feel sorry for those parents, they obviously had no idea what their kids were capable of. Everyone is blaming the parents and calling them psychos!

[@sleepyhermit5758]

It's your responsibility to know what your kids are capable of. I have as much sympathy for these mother's as they do for the girl their daughters almost killed, aka none.

[@logan1751]

No. It's her daughter. She ignored the signs and is using a manipulative technique to deflect the blame off of her and her daughter

[@Floodpro-ol8wj]

@@logan1751 why is life like this 😔

[@baconfluffy]

@@sleepyhermit5758 Not really. If somebody wants to hide who they are, then they'll find a way to hide who they are. Parents aren't omniscient. Do you're parents know all your dirty laundry?

[@heatherxgrayson]

i feel so much for not only Payton, her family, and the parents of the 2 girls. i can’t imagine what it was like for not only the victim and her family but also the parents of the 2 girls and seeing what their kids did in some way behind their back

[@LucyGenevieve5]

You can tell she's not sorry for the victim she's sorry for herself.

[@CYOnTheBeat]

that's not my daughter?......yes it is you just didn't know your daughter

[@sgtmian]

that's exactly what she's saying. also, nobody really ever knows anyone, you can never know someone a hundred percent, because you're not in their head, not even your own child.

[@SumilatsFansReadURLs]

she means it metaphorically

[@broodjebakpao1994]

@@sgtmian she's in denial and doesn't seem to take ANY responsobility for her childs behaviour.

[@broodjebakpao1994]

@@SumilatsFansReadURLs We all know that. But even then what the mother does is just a way to cope and not having to take responsibility for her child's actions because "well, that's not how I know or raised her.". She's basically talking herself out of it with that statement and seems to lack empathy just like her daughter.

[@SumilatsFansReadURLs]

Meh

[@xenvi1804]

So the girl GETS 40 years for stabbing, but the girl who bullied a boyfriend to kill himself only GETS 2.5. Alrighttttt

[@kittykat8177]

that's sad, i'm sick of injustice

[@rosanne7428]

How is 40 years not justice?? Attempted murder!

[@larissaswinkels3661]

rockgal It’s compared to the 2.5, though I think it’s a completely different story. That girl might not be mentally I’ll and she didn’t do anything herself. At least I think they took everything into account.

[@teresa4645]

Well one was physical violence. The other girl didn't kill her boyfriend, she was a big jerk and emotionally abusive

[@camiharland7528]

Not comparable crimes at all.

[@supremeforever1794]

She deserves jail time not an hospital time Tf....

[@thetrainwreck1469]

They can keep these killers locked up a lot longer in a hospital than if they had received jail time. Yeah, it's politics and subterfuge, but like the baby killers, putting them in a institution is the only way to keep them locked up, away from society, for an indefinite period of time. Besides that, these two kids are really (really) fucked up and the doctors and lawyers all know it. There is no reforming them.

[@africancouscous]

When I was 12 I just played with LEGO bricks

[@mr.meeseeks5127]

I'm tired of people getting off of prison sentences for pleading insanity. The purpose of prison is not only punishment for the crime, but to separate a dangerous individual from the rest of society.

[@dsdom2]

Mr. Meeseeks its a punshment if you can pay out of it

[@KowaiiSo]

I think they're mentally unstable. Your argument would be invalid if the person was fully sane which isn't the case here.

[@IWantToMature85]

PianoPhantom you mean valid?

[@itsmrlonewolf]

Pleading insanity isn’t always a get out of jail free card though! You’ll go to a mental institution filled with actual nutters, and may not ever get let out unless they say you’re sane! They have padded rooms and strait jackets and all kinds of drugs they can administer! After 40 years in there, even if you were sane going in, you’d probably be mental by the time you’re being released! If you watch a film called Bronson, about an English prisoner who’s been locked up most his life, he went to a mental institute and explains how it’s not the easy ticket he thought either! It’s a good film with Tom hardy in it and it’s a true story!

[@perfectlyimperfect1095]

I'm not sure about the US but in South Africa (I'm South African) the purpose of prison is not just punishment but rehabilitation. A lot of our prisons have programs for rehabilitation like counseling and educational opportunities. A lot of the prisoners leave prison with degrees and have a chance to live a better life. They are given the chance to make sure that they don't continue to be a menace to society when they get out. The choice is theirs. These two LITTLE girls will get the help they need as they are both mentally unstable. They need to be in that institution so that when or if they do come out they aren't worse than before. They need to be functioning members of society.

[@Monster-ks2yx]

I feel sorry for all the families involved.

[@brigitb4850]

Monster 50 Really? I only feel sorry for the innocent girl stabbed 19 times.

[@madcowgirl0131]

Amanda Somma he never said he doesn't feel sorry for her too. He said ALL. The other familes are victims to. They didn't know their daughters, sister, cousin, ect. Would become savage monsters who almost killed a poor girl. They are just as much victims of this tragedy as the girl who was stabbed family is. They didn't commit this crime their love one did and that is just as heart breaking as being an actual targeted victim.

[@onettaviator5396]

Maddie Rouse This

[@rcracer8872]

@Fú you are a dumbass if you actually think that

[@rcracer8872]

@@brigitb4850 that's because you are a dumbass

[@GerardWay4President]

I don’t believe that these girls are truly sorry. They clearly have no empathy. However, I do feel bad for the parents. It would be incredibly difficult to accept that your child did something so horrible. Surely, these mothers didn’t raise them to be attempted murderers.

[@sammymoctezuma4531]

0:29 usually when I hear someone cry I feel awful but this time I felt absolutely no sympathy for her. What she did to her friend was disgusting

[@notsusoranythingbut3822]

They remind me of the two boys in the uk

[@McFaddenWasRight]

Same here. And guess what...rehabilitation never worked on those two little shits and it won't work on these two either. They will always be a danger to someone.

[@Clairecnz]

Well, actually, the James Bulger case you can't really compare the cases they were VERY different. Yes Jon Venables did re-offend, however, Robert Thompson has not, and by all accounts is thriving and has not committed a crime at all. The physiologic implication of locking a child away should be what jundge here. but you need to look at the UK and how they reform child killers vs how America treats child killers. The UK look at how do we save the child and the USA looks how do I punish this child. In the UK is has worked.. in fact you will find that over 90% of cases this has worked..

[@Clairecnz]

Other than children committing the crime, as in they are under the age of 16... these are absolutely different crimes, 1) two boys age 10 from very horrible poor backgrounds with terrible abuse Kiddnapp a 2-year-old from his mother in a shopping mall and murder him. 2) Two 12-year-old girls from middle-class American backgrounds, watch a movie and trying to please a character in a 'movie' ask a friend to woods where they attempt to please the said slender man stab said friend and she survives..... SO no there is nothing the same about this.... This is not liberal garbage.. its hard facts that children DO NOT understand their actions. Scientific facts, physiologic fact. Locking children away doesn't help them.... You are making them worst if they are mentally ill at this young age. There is no chance for rehabilitation for some of them I agree. But why would you treat all 'CHILDREN' the same? No crime is the same, therefore children who do these things need speical circumstance. For example, the children who shot and killed their father and girlfriend because of years of abuse? Catherine and Curtis Jones : got 29 years Or the two boys who killed their father because he abused them Derek and Alex King got I think less then 10 years. HOW is that justice ?

[@Clairecnz]

I'm sorry but this nothing to do with being a Liberal, I think you need to look up the definition of the word? It's about being compassionate and trying to not condemn CHILDREN who can't understand what they did. I'm sorry but Revenge killing??! what do you live in the stone age? Mental Health is the cause here for these two girls. WOuld you rather they just be hung in a public forum or stoned to death. Mental illness is not real. FOr example these girls have gotten more time then the guy the who thought he was the joker and shot people while they watched a movie.

[@BevvyIsTheBest]

Hard to believe they only got 8 years

[@KiernanSullivan]

Anybody who thinks Slenderman is real should get 40 years in a mental institute

[@eternalskeptic6996]

KiernanSullivan ....but I bet you think god is real huh?

[@CbsOmegaOmniX]

tehepiccricketz LOL somebody got triggered!

[@nyahs6197]

She is going to a mental institute because it turned out the girl who stabbed her and planned it had severe schizophrenia that no one looked into until she acted out in the worst way possible

[@tonyordonez5570]

Eternal Skeptic ..... But i bet you going to hell ....huh

[@tonyordonez5570]

Cbsomegaomni lol only an atheist would still use the word triggered

[@tessmarusic4205]

When I was 12 I walked around singing a song about a coconut, put my cap on backwards calling myself a boy, tap danced everywhere and sang Disney songs at the top of my lungs

[@brianknight9885]

She’s not sorry! She’ll do something horrible when she gets out too! Needs to be in there for life!

[@user-sh7ov3df6p]

this.

[@smilesformiles8193]

Omg so happy to see the victim lived!

[@pastelrose2261]

Same. Thank goodness. I hope she’s living a happy life😊

[@MartinsGarage97]

Those girls deserve to be there for life. Everyone is always so sorry after they've been caught.

[@ahhhhhh124]

Many people were affected by this..the victim yes but no ones lives from this case will ever be the same.

[@abigailsunn1464]

If they were over 18 they would've gotten life in prison. The fact that these two will be free one day is absolutely terrifying

[@6201ize]

"There were no warning signs. " Are you kidding me?

[@lexilovesyou5825]

A killer or possibly a killer should never EVER be let out in her fifties. I don't think mental illness makes people evil, I think for the most part its a choice and she was into some dark things

[@muffinman5741]

Alexis Armadillo well the you're wrong. Mental illness makes you unable to feel empathy. Evil doesn't exist. Every behaviour has a logical explanation.

[@qtaro-7097]

if you have a mental illness you’ll know how it feels like. but that doesnt mean that mental illness is always to blame for ppls actions.

[@nekorina9011]

Very Nice what do you mean, “mental illness makes you unable to feel empathy”?? Mental illnesses aren’t the sole cause of murders and stabbings and crime in general, you know...and LOTS of people live with mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, etc. and you don’t see THEM trying to kill people. It’s the media that portrays mental illnesses in that light, but most people living with mental illnesses are perfectly normal people that happen to have a condition I’m not trying to argue with anyone, but you shouldn’t make generalizations like that based off of what you hear in the TV. Because who knows? Your best friend or your mom could be living with a mental illness, and they wouldn’t be trying to kill you. These girls just happened to be VERY unwell and had twisted minds. And most mental illnesses aren’t like that, especially if you have proper treatment for them.

[@nekorina9011]

A Dick dude, what the actual fuck...that’s awful. That’s such an awful mentality to have, especially for a medical professional, and I’m really sorry that happened to you. I hope you’re doing better now

[@onettaviator5396]

Alexis Armadillo That much is true. Mental illness does not equal evil. Edit: Being into dark things isn't necessarily an indicator of instabiliity, though.

[@relicreapers571]

I still feel Anissa started it all. She's the one that introduced the idea of having to kill somebody for the fictional slenderman.

[@via-anghelmagahum2586]

Sorry? Sorry is when you step on someone’s foot. Sorry is when you forget someone’s birthday! Stabbing someone to near death is the farthest you can get from sorry!

[@McFaddenWasRight]

People like that don't feel remorse. They lie. They shed tears only for themselves when they must face consequences. They feel sorry for themselves and only themselves.

[@SumilatsFansReadURLs]

how can you know if your not them?

[@KowaiiSo]

that's not true.

[@MaesReverie]

You wouldnt know cause you're not them it will forever be a mystery

[@frenchvanilla7109]

Trust me Mothers know their children. These are parents who know their children are psychopaths and send them off into society like no big deal. They make excuses and let them get away with everything without consequences. Then when shit hits the fan they start singing a song how this can't be right, she must not be feeling well that day, maybe the child bothered her. Blah, blah, blah. I'm glad these little pyschos are in some kind of prison. Good riddance!

[@batalorian7997]

thats not true. just because you are a parent, it doesn't mean you know everything about your child especially when they keep certain things to themselves. the girls read a story online and believed in it, and then acted on it. not every person gives out early waning signs that they might murder someone in the near future

[@abara5678]

EXACTLY @ the op

[@Rachelxxc]

Yeah...no. That is definitely not how it works.

[@McFaddenWasRight]

French Vanilla I agree. You can usually tell when someone is a little off. In any case obviously the parents weren't very pro active ones. If they were they'd have a full lockdown control over access to the internet.

[@rileysunderland1904]

French Vanilla um no! They checked what they were looking at online and monitored their internet time as closely as possible. Tons of kids are in to things like horror stories at that age, and you can’t possibly expect any child to act on that. Morgan had schizophrenia that hadn’t been diagnosed at that point, and she really thought this could be real cause of her visions that she often experienced cause of her condition. She has been receiving treatment since then it’s a good thing they were sentenced to a mental institution instead of an actual prison so she continue receiving treatment, and has the opportunity to bid for parole in a few years. The important matter of all this is, is that the little girl miraculously survived. One of those knives actually tore through the tissue of her heart and was like a millimeter away from an artery and if that artery would’ve been hit she would’ve been dead within minutes. And now that little girl’s family can probably now feel like they’ve received justice because both girls have been sentenced.

[@valentinazoraplasaj238]

“I’m sorry I got caught. I’m sorry I’m going to have to pay for the evil that I intentionally acted out on.”

[@690169016901]

It will take years for the victim to be able to deal with all this has created for her mentally and emotionally. Hope she will get all the support she needs

[@greenjosh75]

try the rest of her life

[@supernaturalmsp8426]

This happened in my state ;-; I remember first hearing about it on the news in 2014, and I was only like 10 at time time. Even at that age and being a slender man lover at the time, that is honestly just so idiotic. Thank god the girl survived.

[@trabajador_]

This is overall an extremely sad case for both families. I am disgusted by a lot of the comments saying that the two girls who attacked should be put on death row or simply just "eat the bullet." I don't feel remorse for them, no, but they are twelve years old and definitely not right in the head. I hope some time in a mental institution will help them move from this and realize the full gravity of what they have done.

[@homelesshannah50]

Shut up dumbass you assholes need to STOP making excuses and play "protect the white thug" bullshit

[@LiveLoveLaugh102310]

I find it hard to believe that she didn't notice any change in her kids behavior

[@SSRM69]

I swear these fictional “creepy” characters are really a drag to see to be honest, well I’m glad Payton survived and is doing well.

[@heymonalisacani6795]

They honestly deserve to serve a long sentence, they and no one else will ever learn if they didn't

[@elise2363]

Psychiatric hospitals are worse than prison. 40 years? I’d rather get the death penalty.

[@leshanjordan4577]

TheCatsMeow 👍

[@etokita6702]

EAgreed! Especially if the staff doesn't care about you. I'd rather die than go somewhere like that.

[@Essio.Coshibari]

I have a "friend" who can cry on cue. An advise she gave me on how is to think is your own death. I keep her at arm's length, she claims she was diagnosed sociopathic. She was only honest with me coz I seem "like someone no one would believe or listen to". It was like watching magic, seeing her turn on and off her facade. She KNEW how to work on people, one time I asked her why she would not accept direct help from people but do the opposite and help others... she said "I always help out first so they owe me. Whoever helps first onesidedly will be remembered for it, you can make more excuses for future mistakes that way. I don't like accepting their offers coz I will owe them. Whatever help I need from them I handle it where they don't realize I am benefitting" She scared and fascinated me. Like seeing a wild animal up close. I started distancing myself from her and luckily she felt no further use for me since I wasn't popular or influential enough to matter in her ring. I will never forget her soulless eyes and her calm demeanor despite the messed up stuff she says. I wish she wasn't the way she was, coz she was probably one of the best people I knew before I realized it was all an act.

[@leiaorgana_]

She only feels remorseful now that she has 40 years of no freedom. She said herself hours after she did it that there was no point in feeling remorseful.

[@jacobrickayzen2744]

Feel sorry for the mothers... when are people going to get it through their heads parents can have no idea what their parents are up to? Or what they are feeling? Or that what their kids have done isn't always something on them? If you think these parents should have seen through their kids, think about each time you lied to your parents or hid your feelings from them. No one is transparent.

[@WeiYinChan]

Jacob Rickayzen Yea my parents probably didn’t know that I stole a cookie front the jar, but these “parents” didn’t know their daughters are psycho murders. I think there is a big difference between these two. And judging by the fact that both of them was defensive of themselves instead of thinking about what the victim went through, they probably don’t care what their daughters did, just annoyed that they are now in a mess.

[@jacobrickayzen2744]

WeiYinChan Even if that wasn’t the case this time and they maybe had a feeling about their daughter being a sicko, you’d be surprised at how anyone can hide their feelings from those closest to them. Depression, bullying, the sorts of things you might be up too... people can hide their feelings extremely well. This girl could have shown some early signs that should have been noted, but when it comes to your own kid, no one’s first thought would be that the reason they’ve been seeming a bit angry or distant lately is because they are planning to commit a murder- especially when they r so young.

[@mbtup1766]

But these parents didnt know, i genuienly believe if they had known, more wouldve been done to keep their daughters away from harm. No one wants to believe their child is capable of comitting such an act, until after the fact, than as the parent, you would question everything. The media and sociaty want more from the parents, but what more can the parents say or do now? Wouldnt wish this upon any parent who loves their children.

[@WeiYinChan]

The problem is even after the fact she is still trying to make her daughter a victim, refuses to take any accountability in this. How can you not realise if someone you see every day has schizophrenia? She never expresses remose or regret towards the actual victim, never even mention her once. It actually feels like she is angry at the victim for somehow making her daughter in trouble.

[@WeiYinChan]

It would be understandable if they really missed some early signs. But she fucking stabbed her "friend" 19 times to please a fictional character. That's not some bs early stage with some vauge and missable early signs. Her parents either ignored some obvious signs in an active phase, or is just neglegent

[@DecemberSammy]

"Remorse" from a highly manipulative girl.... That's all I'm going to say. I'm glad she's locked up in an institute.

[@zzzroxyzzz]

all I really want to hear is my daughter is a psychopath and we're sorry we didn't see it before this happened. that's it, anything else, makes my stomach turn.

[@michaelwandell2533]

You should all be ashamed of yourself. This girl obviously had problems before this happened. Not that it excuses anything, but this girl was literally crying out for someone to listen to her. Bravo to Payton for trying to be a friend to her. What happened to her could have been prevented. Her friendship with Alyssa was toxic and shouldn't have been allowed to continue once the trouble started. I believe she is sorry. I also believe she is thankful that Payton is alive. We ALL make mistakes in this life.

[@jermafan4]

i 100% believe annisa took advantage of morgan’s mental illness. annisa knew that slenderman wasn’t real.

[@pauline_raabe]

@michaelwalden 💯 right! These people don't know the real story they just read the headlines. They have more hate running through their veins then Morgan could ever have in the tip of her little finger. Morgan's also a victim and no one can see that. 😥 Morgan's dad Matt passed away a couple days ago he died with an extreme broken heart. 💔 Most all people in these comments will laugh, now how sick is that? Morgan loved Bella still does I'm sure of it. Morgan's rare onset childhood schizophrenia took over, cheered on by another (Anissa) to feed her own love for Slenderman and the proxies., who has since been released.

[@cormacom8729]

You can say sorry but the scars will never heal, those pyscos deserve prison time

[@cutienerdgirl]

So sad, but shit like this happens frequently and can barely be prevented. The children were mentally ill and mental illness doesn't show up with a bang, it shows up really slowly. It takes time for people to notice it.

[@jawasstolemydroid4930]

That's not always true. In this case I think this was likely gradual, but just to warn you for, you know, life and stuff, people can and do "snap." It's not often, but it happens.

[@anitaposa9164]

Actually stuff like schizophrenia can appear out of the blue and it does often especially in teens. I've known a guy who was always very funny in a weird way, making jokes and when he started getting symptoms everyone thought he was just joking when he would say he's possessed and stuff. And for a while it would be just those jokes that he'd snap out of after a minute and then he just snapped one day. Thankfully he didn't kill anyone and is okay now but it can happen overnight especially if something traumatic triggers the illness to appear(in my example the guy was moving in with his girlfriend and remembered how his dad packed his things and left him and his mum when he was a kid) so it all depends on the situation. Sometimes you really can't notice it until the person just snaps.

[@cutienerdgirl]

Anita Posa So he didn't "snap". Like you said he started acting weirder and weirder slowly until you realized he wasn't joking. My sister has Schizophrenia so, I know how it goes.

[@grizzlegrowlsem]

I feel really bad for all of the parents. I have no idea how that would feel to know that your daughter tried to murder someone.

[@MrChickenspit]

"Thats not my daughter" My face/reaction: 1:33

[@cordeliacarstairs2796]

Morgan: So, I went up to her.... And I…I stabbed her 19 times in the chest. Judge: That KILLS people!

[@caity2hip466]

But 40 years??????? Seriously? Why don’t rapists and grown men who kill get that much time. This is some blshit I hate how the law works

[@magiccheeseball]

what are you taking about, a guy touches a girls ass he will get 40 years, women teachers rape 13 year old students and get probation ..they meant to kill her, they should never be let out in 100 years

[@caity2hip466]

magic cheeseball my abuser got 3 years after raping me everyday. The law is fucked so no, I don’t think this is appropriate

[@magiccheeseball]

well you probably live Arkansas and it was your cousin...what do you think these girls should have got then?

[@fumbles1294]

Ya should of got life... I'm sure when they get out there going to try and kill again so 40 years is just delaying the inevitable

[@jawasstolemydroid4930]

It's mind boggling. I've heard of mothers who've drown ALL their kids in a bathtub because God told them to that go FREE without any sentence. These two girls didn't kill anyone! Literally no one died!

[@ZayaHavingFun]

As a 12 year old I remember myself trying my best to keep up with school life and watching anime... Plus that was the time period where I was being actively bullied.... but I never thought of murdering ppl like this

[@kpoptime7382]

She's sorry now when she understands that she won't live normal life, and that's probably the only thing she's sorry about.

[@rileysunderland1904]

I’m disappointed in the people in these comments who clearly don’t know all the details in this case. Morgan had schizophrenia which hadn’t of been diagnosed at that point. And as a symptom of schizophrenia, you often experience these visions that can appear to be real but only you see them and she actually thought she saw him once but wasn’t sure if it was real until her friend Anissa showed her this, and was enough to convince Anissa that he was real. I’m not in any way trying to excuse their actions because they still at the end of the day tried to kill their best friend. But I’m saying that it’s a good thing they sentenced the girls to a mental institution instead of some sort of detention center. Morgan has been receiving treatment since this happened and is starting on making steps towards improvement. So how would locking them up forever be anyway helpful if she has a mental condition that’s incurable but can still be treated so she can one day be well again to be able to go back out into society? The important thing in all of this is, is that justice has been served in some sort of way and that girl’s family can probably feel better knowing both girls have been sentenced. And these girls are lucky that she even survived in the first place cause if she hadn’t of then I’m pretty sure the sentencing would’ve been a lot harsher if he had.

[@homelesshannah50]

FOH!! You assholes need to come off it with the bullshit excuses

[@AlexandraBolz]

At least the parents are not thinking that their daughters (the ones that stabbed Peyton) are innocent like most parents who find out their kids killed someone would be.

[@djkphop2610]

Court: You stabbed her. Morgan: *I was in electric doing tasks the entire time!!*

[@grusome1]

Oh, she's sorry. All those stab wounds have disappeared from existence now because of her apology

[@PaulineRaabe_]

I have true empathy for Morgan. She suffers from an incurable brain disease, schizophrenia in such a young child is rare, unfortunately she'll be in a adult state mental hospital for 40 years being a lab experiment with trial and error dangerous psychotropic medications that will end up killing her because of the long-term side effects. This was a beyond heartbreaking incident. Anissa has been released. Paydon thank goodness is thriving in life now in 2022. Has Morgan falling through the cracks of a state mental ward? As everyone wishes. I surely don't! Everyone deserves a second chance when they're 12 years old. I hope she has a caring and compassionate staff of physicians and psychologists in a safe thriving atmosphere. The stigma of mental illness in children needs to stop, any age for that matter.

[@rinmedrano8869]

I know I’m kinda crazy for this. I loved creepy pastas as a middle schooler and immersed myself in dark vibes and edgy middle school culture. I like legit fantasized becoming immortal and being a vampire. I still never killed anyone and have no desire to do so ever. I still don’t understand how Anissa went through with stabbing “Bella” and I feel for her mom so much (because what are the chances that your kid isn’t in an edgy phase and is actually a premeditated killer). Almost all kids that like edgy content and goth themes and dark worlds don’t become killers. It’s just a shame Anissa made the choices and friends she did.

[@gracymitamura8547]

There WERE warning signs for both girls, of aggression, bringing a weapon to school, disturbing drawings, choking other students, etc

[@melissadehart9306]

It's not just about protecting your child. Protecting your child is not going to prevent her from murdering others.

[@VS9050909]

I am happy she survived that attack 4 years ago, strange thing is what if they just waited until they got older and more into crime dramas? Wtf do we have dwelling in generations to come, because this generation has me on the edge.

[@broodjebakpao1994]

Crazy has always existed. This has nothing to do with "this generation" and even the whole "slender man" thing is just an excuse for mentally ill people doing mentally ill things.

[@kyubey4743]

Despite all the hate towards the 2 girls who stabbed the victim, I still can't help but feel sorry for them. They're still young girls who had a possibly bright future who with one grave mistake ended it all. I pray to God that they may be forgiven in the future no matter how long it takes.

[@homelesshannah50]

Cause you're a dumbass

[@javasports5348]

Those parents should go to jail with her kids. When you dont know your kids is weird and teachers and friends are saying that, should be worrying.

[@dawoodakhtar3691]

If your twelve year old is stabbing other children you have some serious parental issues