Moneyball (2011) - That's My Offer Scene (10/10) | Movieclips

[@sparkymahoney4343]

"The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloodied." Spot on.

[@sharkracer]

Yeah, but you rarely know the name of the second guy.

[@StraightF1ush22]

Nice profile pic

[@junlee6663]

It’s not even true.

[@elvis316]

RuPaul comes to mind.

[@chriscrowninshield4623]

@@junlee6663 it's absolutely true, but ok

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

I like how natural this scene is, like we're just eavesdropping in a real business meeting.

[@shaunwhelan17]

so true

[@andrewcassese3283]

Both of the team owners in this movie deliver stand-out performances in a movie packed with great performances.

[@russellbenson7055]

Thomas Well put. I agree.

[@andrewcassese3283]

@@russellbenson7055 I just dug around and discovered that the A's owner Stephen Schott is played by Robert Kotick who is the CEO of Blizzard Entertainment. No wonder he's so authentic, he's not an actor!

[@luvlgs1]

the fact that it's quiet too, you have to lean in to hear what they're saying, ...

[@bobosputnik]

Arliss Howard owns this scene. Props to Brad Pitt for listening and letting a fellow actor deliver the goods. Just great stuff.

[@JohnBonini]

I agree though I miss not hearing Brad Pitt's earlier line, "Get her a bowling ball for all I care."

[@mavioz]

Nice try Arliss

[@TommyRibs]

He has always been a Gem. For Decades.

[@zataha3]

I mean that how the scene was written I don't think it had anything to do with brad

[@johnfarella7964]

Bingo! Arliss was perfection.

[@BaldwinVoice]

"For $41 million, you built a playoff team. You lost Damon, Giambi, Isringhausen, Pena...and you won more games without them then you did with them. You won the exact same number of games that the Yankees won, and the Yankees spent $1.4 million per win; you paid $268,000." It is truly amazing what Billy pulled off.

[@biggt0820]

Those numbers don't add up by the way. The 02 A's won 103 games. With a payroll of $41M, that comes out to $398K per win. If they had only paid $268K per win, they'd have ended up with 153 wins or a only had a payroll of $27.6M

[@xKillZone99]

they lost in the playoffs to a team with smaller budget than themselves, Billy has had little success as a gm overall and his analytics hurt baseball more than it helped the game.

[@nicksander8027]

@@xKillZone99 So you are one of the dinasaurs

[@xKillZone99]

@@nicksander8027 1. please learn to spell and 2. you assume I'm old cause I remember what actually happened with 2002 A's? lol my God that was embarrassing to read

[@mikoajtokar5846]

@@xKillZone99 Ok boomer

[@strider1589]

Best part is when he slides it to Jonah Hill similarly and he responds "congratulations.....that makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."

[@dlatua]

go sports

[@x808drifter]

@@dlatua It sounds weird but there wasn’t really a better way to say it. He wasn’t offered the highest GM salary in the MLB or USA professional sports. He was literally offered so much money it would have made him the highest paid GM in the world.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

And he responds so quickly, which is perfect for his character. That he has 100% locked in his head the highest paid GM salaries across all professional sports. Or at least the few that would typically have the highest GM salaries. MLB, NFL, NBA.

[@jonathancracolici536]

@@sgt.thundercok4704 I would expect it to be soccer, their yearly budgets are just mental. Pep is paid like $24M/yr. Belichick is only $7.5M/yr

[@steveclapper5424]

This is seriously one of Brad's greatest roles.

[@theonewhoknocks96]

2011 was a terrific year for him between this and The Tree of Life. Two of his best and most down-to-earth performances.

[@d4t4wx]

I think the Pikie roll in lock stock and two smoking barrels was his best.

[@vanguardguardian5876]

He also performed brilliantly in TROY

[@stevelibby6852]

Tall statement. It's very good. It's up there.

[@pr520]

Fury is good too. Made at the same period.

[@pauljuliano6676]

The deal Henry offered was for 5 years 12.5m which would of made Billy the highest paid GM ever.

[@calisongbird]

Paul Juliano *would’ve

[@viksaggu9085]

Ya the next scene in his office Pete says that

[@syberdieforlove]

The correct number is $12.5 million over five years by the way. :) A quick google search will tell you that.

[@jqyhlmnp]

Syber Salvatore ok Amy Schumer

[@theendlesswanderl8149]

you take that and your set for life

[@eugkra33]

this movie had so many great, well written scenes. I don't care at all about baseball, but the core of this movie really wasn't about baseball at all.

[@NickGuy0320]

Except it was

[@evanabbott2737]

I need to finally see this movie...I’ve been sidestepping it for years because I also don’t care about baseball..!😁

[@danielponce774]

Then what could it possibly be about if it wasn’t about baseball lol

[@austin5977]

@@danielponce774 it's more of a movie about business

[@danielponce774]

@@austin5977 you saw the movie and thought it was about business? Lord lol

[@tuliocano8468]

This movie is a school for managers, not just of a baseball team but all kind of company. is pure gold.

[@johnstjohn1987]

"You made the playoffs with Starlord at first base."

[@Mr.Limekiller]

haha that's really funny because that actor was in another role XD sometimes actors play vastly different roles in different movies and using your flawless comedy skills you have pointed this out in a very hilarious and fresh youtube comment haha i hope this astute observation earns you a million likes and you are now my best friend for making this very hilarious joke that no one ever makes in youtube comment sections haha

[@johnstjohn1987]

@@Mr.Limekiller I thoroughly enjoyed reading this comment my Friend. It really shows how your attempt at humor is about as funny as your huge run on sentence. Whats even more hilarious is how your grammar skills reminds me of my 5 year old.

[@hskshag00]

Mr. Limekiller you must be a hit at parties

[@juliorodriguez9789]

@@adrianb8446 Lol got him.

[@CVSoprano]

@@adrianb8446 BOOM! HEAD SHOT!

[@cmscms123456]

When I die, I want the Oakland A's to be my pallbearers, so they can let me down one last time.

[@aaronyayger]

@Alex Oh no, he's told a joke thats been told before, what a horrible person! Grow up, dude.

[@casamir1]

LOL

[@pd9971]

There's a new one what's next Knock knock, who's there?

[@ianschroth6575]

Same here, but instead of the A's, for me it would be the Phillies, Flyers, and Eagles. Lol

[@poshko41]

Try being an Indians fan.

[@ryancrowell9867]

as a Sox fan it was really nice to see John Henry portrayed this way. To be successful in pro sports you really do need someone at the top that has that kind of a philosophy. Boston sports has been lucky to have good ownership these past few decades.

[@fabri1314]

yep, definitely. im yankee but i can’t deny the way boston have been playing the last years. big props to the organization. yet new york keeps spending more money -like that Stanton mistake- and still can’t make it through playoffs.

[@DarrenBates]

And Liverpool. English, European, World and Super cup champions.

[@pappy374]

@@DarrenBates Whilst that is true, Henry and FSG are running into a wall with Liverpool over investments in the team.

[@roadbeef]

I also like the guy for getting iRacing off the ground

[@dave3429]

@@roadbeefdidn’t even know he did that

[@matthewdriscoll8327]

In the years after this conversation, the Red Sox went on to win four World Series, and win the division half a dozen times. The A’s have yet to win a playoff series

[@poppy87]

I hate the narrative that the Sox didnt spend money; they spent A LOT of money.

[@Al-vf5oq]

Things are looking up for Billy this year lol

[@NovemberBaseball]

@EaST CoAsT MaCHete 1998, 1999, 2000.

[@rcslyman8929]

@@sousavann Exactly this. Oakland was doing it on a budget because they didn't have money to spend. Yes, they paid less money to get the same OBP production in three players as compared to one star player. The rub is that's now three players you have to field to make up for one. And they had other deficiencies, which was why they were able to be gotten on the cheap. Boston takes this same approach, they pick up that star player with the impressive OBP that isn't so lacking in other areas, more slots in the roster for a more robust team, and seven open field positions rather than five. Their overall production value is increased as a result, as long as they are making decisions around increasing that value. And, as a side benefit, they get return value from the fans that player draws into the stadium.

[@wvu05]

@@rcslyman8929 And, as the book points out, if you end up with really solid players, you can't afford them once their contracts are up. This is why Oakland can't have sustained success with the diamonds in the rough that they do find.

[@bacflash]

Although I don't understand baseball, I keep coming back to this great scene. Such a casual conversation but so much is implied (including a summation & verification of Billy's amazing work with Oakland Athletic that season). Arliss Howard's portrayal of John Henry deserves an award. So riveting and no background music needed.

[@johnpsalinger173]

Agree. He is very cerebral in manner. Seems to get right inside what I imagine John Henry was like then. John Henry made his original fortune in much the same way - by taking the emotion out of investing.

[@Rez981]

“The first guy through the way always gets bloodied. Always. It’s a threat, not just a way of doing business. But in their minds it’s threatening the game, but what it is really threatening their livelihoods and it’s effecting their jobs. It’s threatening the way that they do things. And every time that happens whether it is a government or a way of doing business. Whatever it is, the people holding reigns with hands on the switch go batshit crazy.”

[@AnnaLVajda]

Control freaks they hate change.

[@whenmullet2674]

hey my speakers are broken, could you type out the rest of the dialogue in the scene please?

[@jimmydean239]

Wow you typed exactly what the guy said in the movie! GOOD JOB!1🤓

[@87krull]

I build a projection model for my company a few years back for our rolling 18-months projections. Back then it was like nothing they had ever seen, most were sceptical. Now it’s an integral of our day-to-day project-portfolio planning.

[@algea2003]

Billy leveraged that offer to get 2.5% ownership of the A’s

[@samuelwoods7832]

Like that was his deal?

[@regibson23]

@Tiber Zeek No way. Always take ownership over salary with an established business. There's a reason the As only spent $40M a year on players and didn't want to spend more. They need to stay profitable. And if they're profitable ownership gets paid.

[@Lacosanostra699]

@Tiber Zeek Considering the teams worth today id say it was the right choice.

[@foxtrotyankee6131]

@Tiber Zeek $1bn, he owns 1% so hes got a $10m stake in the A's

[@foxtrotyankee6131]

@Tiber Zeek bro what are you on about... never said which was the right choice, simply answered someones question about how much the team is worth today... Where do I mention a $10m stake is a profit... Where do I mention he made the wrong choice... Also where tf is the $90m value coming from... at most the FV of that investment in 2003 would be around $40m

[@LivinhItUp]

What's lost about this scene is that this is exactly the kind of thing the A's were going through for years with their players. Bigger teams gutting the smaller ones for their best players. It was happening again with the Red Sox trying to buy out Billy and make him the highest paid GM for their franchise. Although there were more factors to why Billy didn't join the Sox in real life, I like that they had this scene and it shows the conflict between "seeing this all the way through" (with the A's) or joining another team through the sheer will of money.

[@protoman1365]

Knowing that in real life that the A’s stripped down the entire team and are now moving to Vegas, it makes the ending depressing. Like Billy’s sacrifice for the sake of loyalty being all for naught.

[@garymazeffa]

A beautifully shot and edited scene with a slower and deliberate pace. Softly spoken where you almost need to lean in to listen. Preachy without being preachy. Perfect.

[@mg19cal]

Amazing how Smalls went from not knowing how to play baseball or KNOWING who the Bambino was, to being the radio announcer for the Dodgers, to OWNING the Red Sox and breaking the Curse of the Bambino. Red Sox fans need to thank Benny the Jet every day

[@MrTUBEular10]

Whomst is this Bambino?

[@mg19cal]

@@MrTUBEular10 ??

[@samwise7273]

@@MrTUBEular10it's some lady I think.

[@romangeneral23]

@@samwise7273 Ruth, Baby Ruth !!!!!!!!!!!

[@andrewdevita629]

@@MrTUBEular10 The colossus of clout?

[@mg19cal]

2:24 "My offer is this: nothing." Oh wait, wrong movie

[@wayoutfarout]

...not even the price of the licence...which I'd appreciate if you'd personally pay for....

[@aroshan644]

Don Michael Corleone

[@Speedy2619]

You mean miss sloan?

[@chucknola484]

You Gawd Damn guineas really make me laugh!

[@dagalfheim7056]

I knew you had the wrong movie cause there were no broken sunglasses in the cup of water

[@Diskoboy1974]

Arliss Howard is one of the most sorely underrated actors in the business. I love pretty much everything he's in.

[@SophiaAphrodite]

One of the few times in the last 5 years someone used underrated correctly.

[@peterfrank3365]

I always particularly like the cinematography in this scene.

[@cadenr06]

Barry Obama Probably because it was probably easier to film it in Fenway than fake it

[@shaunwhelan17]

This movie period was just so well done. It's nuts

[@JuKeyy7]

cadenr06 Probably probably probably probably

[@The22Walli]

This movie is beautifully shot. Wally Pfister is the cinematographer and Bennet Miller the director, both great

[@viksaggu9085]

The whole movie feels like a documentary

[@JoRN1222]

Need to see Arliss Howard in more movies and TV shows. He is excellent and I've been a fan since Full Metal Jacket

[@WowColorFight]

"...The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloody. Always" Great great great line.

[@SlideIX]

I honestly love that line

[@rickrose5377]

My father first took me to Wrigley Field when I was 5 years old. To give you an idea of what epoch that was, Ernie Banks was the National League MVP that year. I took care of my mom for the last 7 years of her life. She passed away at the age of 97, and the Cubs had not won a World Series during her lifetime. I have a photo on my phone. It's Theo Epstein sitting in Billy Beane's office.

[@rogerkincaid931]

I love this scene. Great ending.

[@mortichro]

i can imagine John W Henry has this same kind of conversation with Michael Edwards to convince him to come back to Liverpool..

[@matteowatteo1296]

Love this movie. Well acted and an amazing insight into pro sports. Far more credit should be given to Paul DePodesta for his brilliant thinking and less to Billy Bean for embracing his genius out of economic necessity.

[@MattAlbie]

I love this scene. The disbelief in "you were grateful..." YOU need to be grateful to US?! Look what you accomplished!

[@jimjimmyjames59]

Sometimes "star vehicles" short change the story - but Mr. Howard, a known name but not a star name, running this scene with Mr. Pitt, completely comfortable in his own abilities - is a pleasure to watch. (Ouch - my grammar and syntax is awful, but you get the idea.)

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

No, me like. I start talking like you. Simpler.

[@BobSaint]

He is fenomenal. No small roles, but I sure hope he starts getting more significant jobs.

[@intelltr4563]

The Red Sox did win 4 World Series titles since. Congrats

[@alwillk]

It worked out really well for Boston. Oakland. Not so much. Beane screwed up the 2014 team by trading Cespedes for Lester and traded in 2009 CarGo for Holliday for Brett Wallace was terrible. He also got garbage for Tim Hudson. And the Moneyball Draft 2002 He had 7 first round picks and only Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton were any good.

[@alwillk]

@warrcc c Yes. In baseball if you want to win consistently you have to spend money. You can fluke a good season here and there like KC in 2015 or Miami in 2003. But, the top teams spend money.

[@solame4983]

@@alwillk Well yeah, Oakland has no money so they have to gamble a lot. And also, all the other teams started playing Moneyball as well so they weren't able to steal undervalued players anymore. And finally, the college draft is hard no matter what, the dataset on high school and college kids is too little and inaccurate to determine anything.

[@crunch9876]

al d isn’t that higher than average? 2 out of 7 first round picks being any good

[@alwillk]

@@crunch9876 No, More first round picks make it to the show. I'd say 70%.

[@wingmanalive]

No sport in American history has had more films based off it than baseball. None. I'm not even a baseball fanatic but this one is right up there with The Natural and Major League. Of course there's always Field of Dreams, 42, Bad News Bears, The Final Season, Bull Durham, The Rookie, and so on and so on. This one is just great because it's more current. I actually remember the "run". It was amazing.

[@jaydenherrera4177]

wingmanalive don’t forget The Sandlot!!

[@kathleenpovey333]

Don't forget A League of Their Own.

[@wingmanalive]

@@kathleenpovey333 Another good one! I knew I was going to forget some/many.

[@wingmanalive]

@Daniel Treadwell Please explain. It's based off a true story. What about it you didn't like? I'm from Pittsburgh and live in Philadelphia but even I found this movie entertaining. You have something against the A's? Seriously I want to know.

[@wingmanalive]

@Daniel Treadwell Well like I said I'm no fanatic and I certainly never followed the history. About the only time I did follow it was when the Phillies played the Blue Jays for the series in 1993. That was a motley crew! Darren Daulten, John Kruk, Mickey Morandini, Lenny Dykstra, Mitch Williams, ect. They were fun to watch.Then Joe Carter had to.................slap one out lol. Mitch actually owned a bar not far from my girlfriend's house in Pennsauken NJ. He had so many death threats against him he had to stop showing up. That's Philly fans for ya!

[@tailhookmd2546]

Some scenes are so well acted that you just get lost. You just totally buy in. This is one of those scenes.

[@deancj1]

Never mind the fact that the Oakland A's had and have one of the richest owners in baseball. We Oakland fans are sick of their low ball b.s. seems to be changing slightly......at least they are staying here.

[@poppy87]

The giants can win.

[@Raiders1234]

Nah.... they will be in Vegas soon.

[@Rensune]

The opposite doesn't work, either. The Washington Redskins, in Football, have had the Most overpaid players in the league, for Decades. Yet they haven't made it to the Superbowl in 25 years

[@MurfMan96]

Try being a Pirates fan bro 😂

[@LettucePlate]

@@Rensune I'm pretty sure the Redskins have one of the worst owners/ownership groups in the history of American sports. They'll never be good until they're gone.

[@drthegreatbrownie]

That actor has way more emotion than the real John Henry

[@Myr3390]

One of the best explainations of human mentality to change ever.

[@aliqazilbash5231]

There is a clear reason this movie made it with an Oscar, so much truth smashed into one scene..

[@ExperienceBasement]

Sadly, it didn’t win a single one

[@jalcome4201]

You know whats beautiful. That he refused. "You will be a great baseball player, this offer reflects our desire" is the same as this here "You will be a great GM for us, this offer reflects our desire"

[@Boxscot49]

The dialogue in this movie is so perfectly natural. Better than most movies I’ve seen

[@NT-fo3me]

I GOTTA watch this movie again. Haven't in years and I keep watching clips on YT. Have it on DVD.

[@eXcommunicate1979]

The Foley work in this scene is incredible.

[@geovannomozes7010]

Agree

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Foley wasn't the only union member working this job. Hockstein, Bertelsen and McGraw were there as well. I think Hockstein was running the audio setup, resulting in this solid soundtrack and outstanding sound effects.

[@LeoWhalen1933]

Arliss Howard is my favorite actor. I had no idea this was him.

[@Gutenburg100]

Basically his speech is exactly what the hedgefund guys are doing right now. Someone found a way to break their game and they are freaking out.

[@TheHybridlogic]

Exactly. Great analogy.

[@johnford2517]

You have to be truly delusional to think you are getting one over on hedge funds. The arrogance that takes is beyond my ability to imagine.

[@nationradical]

How are they not? And besides this shows the cracks of our financial system-the popular outrage over this can’t be discounted

[@alibertobertolo8954]

Yep

[@Connor8609]

Man, this aged well/

[@drfunk1986]

i like how he puts the offer down

[@Korijenkins1414]

The problem with the A's was that Beane basically let it become public knowledge what he was doing. Then everyone started doing it, and the advantage they had disappeared. While he was trying to find 3 players to match Giambi, other teams were just getting 5 of 6 Giambis. 18 years later, the Athletics have not won a World Series. They've won a couple division titles, but haven't even reached the World Series in 30 years, which is below average if you assume a team will win a title every 30 years based on the amount of teams. Movie also totally leaves out that they had Miguel Tejada and Barry Zito, that year's respective AL MVP and AL Cy Young winner.

[@WhoopityDoo]

Barry Zito still has the best curveball in baseball history. Won't ever change my mind on that.

[@jordanrutledge7943]

“If you assume a team will win a title every 30 years” That’s a dumb assumption, not every team has the same payroll. This would put the vast majority of teams “below average”, which makes no sense. The A’s have an above average regular season record over that period of time, despite having consistently one of the worst payrolls. Meanwhile the teams with the most success since then, the Red Sox, Giants, and Cardinals, have all had consistently high payrolls over that period. A bigger reason for A’s lack of postseason success is a lack of “clutch”. The teams that manage to win the World Series with a lower payroll generally do it by performing significantly better in the playoffs than their regular season play. And conversely, the Yankees and Dodgers have had the best payrolls but not as many championships as their talent could produce, because they have had worse playoff play than regular season play.

[@elijahstraight402]

@@jordanrutledge7943 So in order words, you're basically saying: Penny pinch with the team payroll, get clubbered throughout the regular season, but only enough to squeeze into the playoffs, and then go all world on the competition, right? That'll get you a title for sure😂

[@Vaultboy50s]

Love this scene! Love John's speech to Billy.

[@ANTHONY0808able]

It was captivating, I agree.

[@mykmcgrane]

This speech about changing things for cheaper and better can be applied to so many things today. Damn damn. Bennett Miller really did it man. Great scene.

[@jackmurphy2565]

Thanks Billy Beane, you now made John W Henry Liverpool's majority owner and has made them an Oakland A's of the Premier league. Here's to another 30 years...

[@Brad88ford]

This can be applied to everything in life. Think outside the box

[@slimj091]

I mean he was kind of right. Teams that have embraced analytics and sabermetrics have been dominate over the past decade and a half. The only problem is that dominance only lasts as long as their key players don't enter free agency. Then the party is over, and it's starting over from scratch.

[@maxbrazil3712]

Arliss Howard is a pure actor, an elite.

[@jeffm3163]

I have a whole new respect for John Henry.

[@roshi98]

I contend that John Henry applied "moneyball" more to Liverpool FC than to the Red Sox. All it took was the right manager (Jurgen Klopp), adjusting scouting priorities, and selling off overpriced stars at peak valuation.

[@isaimora4198]

Mane, Firmino, Salah, Van Djik Pure moneyball theory there

[@roshi98]

@@isaimora4198 Take a look at LFC's net spend and get back to me. Moneyball does NOT MEAN never spending big money on certain players, so long as they fit the system. Compare what the Suarez money was spent on versus what the Coutinho money brought in.

[@isaimora4198]

@@roshi98 i'm sorry if my comment was not clear What I meant to say is that I agree with you All those players like Van Djik, Firmino, Salah are good examples of meneyball They were not the most expensive yet They are now some of the best in the world So yeah, liverpool is a great example of moneyball theory

[@tc7560]

@@isaimora4198 Not quite, VVD was at the time the highest transfer record for a CB (still 2nd highest now). But in this case Liverpool absolutely made the right choice to shell out money here.

[@MaxMW1]

@@tc7560 that money was funded from the sale of coutinho

[@PRYVTgomerPYLE]

Science really did end the curse of the Bambino... Such a great line in this movie!

[@eadams1057]

Love this scene. I just lost game 5 for the second year in a row. Get her a bowling ball. 57 years old. Lifelong Redsox fan. That place is a shrine.

[@matthewcarle5970]

2001: Vietnam vet Pvt. Cowboy once thought dead, retired from the Marines and went on to own the Boston Red Sox

[@robertmorris8997]

Actually he was a Corporal in Vietnam.

[@gmoney4292]

Oh my that is private cowboy.... "I didn't know that stacked 💩 that high"

[@markkond8565]

Nah, Cowboy got eaten by a T-rex. That's his identical twin.

[@feslerae]

There ain't one horse in baseball. Not one.

[@volumeturneddown9600]

"Why did I take your call? Because when you make me an offer, I'll use it to squeeze more money from the A's. You think I learned nothing from Giambi?"

[@MrTUBEular10]

A's lose their postseason opportunity in 2019 to.... The Tampa Bay Rays, lowest payroll to start the season. Big oof.

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

Billy Bean thinking in 4D. He wants to lose a bunch to get better picks and then they all come to fruition when the new stadium is built and the owner opens the checkbook to spend big on free agents.

[@LowReadyActual]

It's interesting that he put the offer in writing and pushed it over to him. He knows that having the offer in physical form makes it more real. Masterclass in persuasion, even though it ultimately didn't work.

[@fuita227]

Just once would I love to have that look Brad gives, when he see's the amount on that piece of paper...I could die after that...cause it's not about the ring.

[@Marine1111-p5x]

The acting here is phenomenal.

[@Wrh20]

Why does Brad Pitt always look so good in each of his roles !!!!!

[@takewithfood]

Because he looks like Brad Pitt.

[@alexfurnas1263]

That's why they call him Brad Pitt

[@sam93931]

I think he is most of the time?! sure you could name me a few movies that weren't THAT good.. however, i could name you easily over a dozen where the acting was just as good!

[@Egilhelmson]

For the same reason that Robert Redford did and still does. He not only looks good, he knows how to use it, and when not to.

[@peterbell5806]

1:30 classic quote. Sticks with me still

[@saurondp]

Billy turned down the offer to stay closer to family. Maybe he should've taken it, he still hasn't won a World Series since. However, he is now a part owner of the A's, so it's not like he's in the poor house.

[@aznpikachu215]

If I recall. Didn't he get minority ownership with th A's?

[@kendallevans4079]

True, also confusing why he's stressed about " hoping to send my daughter to college"? Come on! All these jobs in baseball including this one and he's cash strapped for college funds? I can't believe that unless Robin Wright took him to the cleaners ( with her Birkenstock, curry breath, tofu eating hippy man-child 2nd husband).

[@aznpikachu215]

@@kendallevans4079 He's probably talking about Universities instead of community colleges.

[@kendallevans4079]

@@aznpikachu215 Still.! He must have had at least a couple million, don't you think? I just can't imagine the GM of a MLB club worry about sending their kid to ANY university...

[@M3A7]

@@aznpikachu215 Ah yes, that $30k a year tuition is so hard to pay for when you are making $2+ million a year............. Dumb comment dude.

[@sergioelgueda7298]

0:36 This phrase applies to almost all sports...

[@mr.gentlezombie8709]

Not football though.

[@jeffhobbs1729]

anybody who has ever seen Full Metal Jacket knows Arliss is the real deal. His portrayal of Cowboy especially his feath scene is just perfect

[@johnnicolazzo4146]

The rainy late November atmosphere plays so well in this scene, it’s perfect for this subdued conversation

[@Getroy]

John Henry is a smart businessman. He made Boston Red Sox and Liverpool FC into 2 of the biggest sports teams ever (in terms of total valuation)

[@MichaelGGarry]

You mean the Liverpool that were the 2nd most successful English League team of all time and had the most European trophies of any UK club before he bought them?

[@Getroy]

@@MichaelGGarry Yea but you forgot to add the $450 million debt he paid off that was left by the previous owners. Pulled Liverpool out of debt and now they're back to their best

[@kidpagronprimsank05]

@@MichaelGGarry But you forgot that they had two horrid seasons before, and financially not sounded team when he got them. Also, his trial and error took almost a decade to make them again top dog of English league

[@user-dd1bb4tw4r]

That "You were grateful.." says a lot. After what he proved to baseball he said it like he shouldn't be surprised at all.

[@evanhaskel206]

It would have been funny if he had sent a copy of the offer to the former head scout who thought he was setting them up to fail. No words would be necessary.

[@moralesfv8228]

No need. you're either in the game or you're out. And when you're out, you're no longer privied to that type of info, you're simply out and alone with your bones.

[@hybridtechowns]

Yeah that guy was a jerk

[@The-Entelechy]

It really feels like he never wrote an amount . He gave him a blank check because he's that good

[@caltom1427]

“Cowboy” from Full Metal Jacket.

[@DukeofLorraine]

He was also the adult Scotty Smalls in the Sandlot

[@phirephate]

Love this slow paced scene. That fact that there was a low key thunderstorm in the background makes it even better.

[@biggsw7783]

No way John Henry is this smooth in real life

[@drphalanges1520]

Arliss Howard is so natural in this scene. This is some of the best acting I think I've ever seen.

[@Putaspellonyou]

"Congratulations. That makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."

[@russmarasheski7005]

Billy really should've taken the offer... and the respect

[@Sneakycastro69]

Funny because the marlins won a World Series with only 47 million dollar payroll.

[@williamblackfyre4866]

Is that adjusted for inflation? If not, it's not really a fair comparison. I mean, look at the 93 Phillies, they made the World Series on a payroll of 26 million.

[@mario2942]

William Blackfyre marlins won in 2003, this movie is set in 2002

[@lucyhg2010]

William Blackfyre are you dumb?

[@mjwbulich]

That was one of if not the biggest fluke in the history of MLB. The owner had gutted the team of all it's talent to cut payroll. Anyone that would use the 2003 Marlins as a model on how to build a winning team is a complete idiot.

[@antoyal]

In their first 11 seasons the Marlins had just two seasons with a W/L over .500: a 91-win season and a 92-win season. Two seasons, and two wild card spots that led to World Series wins. Fluke city, and an excellent argument against increasing the number of wild card spots, not to mention runaway expansion of the number of teams. (Can you tell that I'm a salty Giants fan? 😄) But you've got to hand it to them, they made the most of their playoff spots.

[@robertg6019]

Man this movie has some great scenes

[@mg19cal]

2:01 "you know, my uncle once had a dinosaur park that I swindled him out of"

[@mikefriend1514]

Henry may not have lured Billy Beane to the Red Sox but he did bring Juergen Klopp to Liverpool FC. So he’s a pretty good judge of Character.

[@garcianelson123]

Fun Fact the actor with Brad is Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket

Didn't recognize him untill u said that

[@justinb2022]

Howard is such a great actor.

[@NYG1991]

So the great New York Yankees spent $1.4 million per win against the A’s $260K?! Wow! Talk about a huge gap!

[@pdxlockpicker7796]

250m roster vs 41m roster. Pretty insane

[@NYG1991]

@@pdxlockpicker7796, it is & it’s also tough to compare the numbers.

[@bolch88bb8]

The dude with the glasses owns this role. So believeable.

[@wesley2508]

If you can get to the playoffs for 40 million, why would you ever pay more than that? That's the threat Billy created in this movie.

[@scarpfish]

More than a quarter of MLB teams make the playoffs. Its not that big of an accomplishment, esspecially when you're in a piss weak division.

[@justinhopper5941]

He’d pay more so he’’d get better players. The players he looked for and got with the A’s were still in his budget. He could trade for better players who get on base more and can get more runs etc. Witch equal more wins if he had more cash. The playoffs were like his ceiling with the 40 mil he had. Imagine if he had say 70 mil to play with. He’d go further in the playoffs and win a championship potentially. Just like the Red Sox did shortly after with their budget but using his formula.

[@danielplainview2360]

2:40 "10 year/100k. Take it or leave it"

[@quigley_cav]

Man, whoever played the guy from the Red Sox did such a great job in this scene, I think

[@jeffhobbs1729]

same dude is Cowboy in Full Metal Jacket and performes the single best death scene ever

[@FirebrickFoxx]

Beane declining the offer was the best thing he ever did and he had vowed never to make a decision based on Money again after he turned down his scholarship to Stanford for playing with the Mets. By Staying with the A's, he chose his family and his loyalty to the A's over 12.5 million dollars with the Red Sox. That decision paid back heavy, because over the next few years, he was given partial ownership of the A's and then later became Executive VP of the A's. Sometimes following your values pays off and it sure did for this guy.

[@shanghaibricks3300]

Billy Beane is not my GM He's just a guy, who claims that he is the one. But the Beane is not my gun.

[@vitaminA_1]

The guy playing the Red Sox owner is smooth as hell.

[@kendallevans4079]

Yes and I thought Billy was out of line with the "...get her a bowling ball for all I care.." comment. The owner was just making a little small talk to warm up to the big stuff, nothing wrong there.

[@bestoutcomes]

The A's are like the Buffalo Bills -- good as a team until the game counts, at which time they tank

[@Egilhelmson]

To lose is not to tank (deliberately throw the game or series, as did the Black Sox a century ago).

[@stephenmegos692]

Bean was a bigger man than I could ever be. No way I could turn that down and I'm a born and bred Yankees fan.

[@Egilhelmson]

But you don’t have a daughter who will be on the far side of the country. Neither do I, but I would like to think that I would be that sort of one, as opposed to 3000 miles away at least six months of the year. If she was already in college, OTOH, I expect that we all would have taken the offer.

[@DoggosintheHouse]

Earlier in the movie, Billy says "I hate losing, even more than I love winning, and there's a difference"... but when offered an opportunity to join a team where he would have won it all, he said no. Using Sabermetrics and with the resources of the Red Sox, Billy could have been one of the greats. Instead he's floundering in obscurity on a losing team with a joke of a budget.... an interesting footnote in the history of the game.

[@heyitsbroski]

Great point.

[@nickb5914]

He also said he would never make a decision because of money ever again.

[@TheParadiseParadox]

when people accept a lot of money, it's questionable whether they're doing it for the right reasons. when people turn down a lot of money, it's more likely they're doing it for the right reasons

[@silverman5707]

His daughter probably had a lot to do with that.

[@itsnotme07]

What a crappy day to "visit" Fenway. But I love they gave us a mini-tour of the park and ended up in the media area. Best unpaid seats in the house for sure! Never sat there for a game, but I've spent some time in there. As a Red Sox fan, I am glad Billy turned down the offer. But as a lover of baseball, I'll always wonder if he would have been even better than Theo Epstein and won even more World Series in Boston.

[@atomicfiredog1995]

Should have taken the job. Good luck Billy

[@sam93931]

lol, who are you to say that?

[@Davidjune1970]

Anyone who is a good father would have stayed closer to their daughter. He stayed for her, no paycheck was enough to move that far away from what mattered most to him.

[@atomicfiredog1995]

@@Davidjune1970 "The deal Henry offered was for 5 years 17.5m which would of made Billy the highest paid GM at that time."(Stolen from another comment) Plenty of good fathers work apart work their kids. Most of the sports world does so on the regular. And for that kind of money, you weigh the daily value of occationally seeing your child through formative years, or being able to provide a legacy/successful future for that child. Hindsight is 20/20, but Billy should have taken the job.

[@Davidjune1970]

Atomic FireDog we can agree to disagree on that one. Billy himself said that he was glad to stay close to his daughter so that he was able to be there for her. If family is your priority, a bigger paycheck doesn’t make a better life when you sacrifice time with the family. So it comes down to how much is enough and for him, his historical decision was the money was not worth it

[@TerrillFischer]

Best line in the whole movie which applies to life! @1:26 to @1:59 "The First guy through the wall always get bloodied. Always!..."

[@emperorreign6154]

A huge part of me wishes Bean left the A’s for the Red Sox. They’ve won a good handful of World Series titles since then and it would’ve been very fitting if he was part of that legacy.

[@andrewchapman1494]

You gotta wonder if Billy's way of doing things would have lead to the same success the Redsox have had. Im sure Billy and the Redsox would have been successful in their own right, but still, it's all speculative.

[@CrashB111]

@@andrewchapman1494 The Redsox, and most other teams, still implemented Sabermetrics in some form even without Billy involved. They could just do it better than Oakland could because they have the budget to not only do the method, but do it with fundamentally better players. That's what the Redsox owner here is talking about, Billy's method revolutionized how teams are built and managed. And any team that doesn't realize that, and implement it is going to lose.

[@johnstockton8138]

@@CrashB111 The message in the movie is right. Billy and his team hit a homerun without realizing it. Honestly it is an accomplishment bigger than a world series win that they were looking for. I am pretty sure any baseball fan secretly have a soft spot for the Oakland A's in their hearts because of their revolutionary underdog triumph for the game of baseball.

[@b0ss19]

Never watched baseball really but this is one of my favourite movies

[@robertb2245]

Great monologue !!!